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Lee Evans Signs Contract Extension (1 Viewer)
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Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
Happy as an Evans fan; disappointed as an Evans owner.
nittanylion
Footballguy
#### Jauron 
Congrats, Lee. You've been a stalwart in a sea of change in Buffalo over the years. Here's to what looks like the organization moving in the right direction!
PS: That YPCatch stat would mean a whole lot more to me (and the 7 Teams I have you on), if you lowered it in lieu of more catches and TD's...
Still love having him on my roster, though...not one player I enjoy keeping track of more on Sundays - seeing if it's 'just gonna be the day' that his stat line reads: 8-117-2 for a change. The picture-perfect PosterBoy for WR3/Flex...
Uber
Footballguy
you should write a novel imo.#### Jauron
Congrats, Lee. You've been a stalwart in a sea of change in Buffalo over the years. Here's to what looks like the organization moving in the right direction!PS: That YPCatch stat would mean a whole lot more to me (and the 7 Teams I have you on), if you lowered it in lieu of more catches and TD's...Still love having him on my roster, though...not one player I enjoy keeping track of more on Sundays - seeing if it's 'just gonna be the day' that his stat line reads: 8-117-2 for a change. The picture-perfect PosterBoy for WR3/Flex...
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Jason Peters should take a page out of Lee's book. Classy guy that works hard and is a team guy. I don't really care to see him get Fitzgerald type money (overpaid) but I'm happy that he's getting paid and remaining a Bill. His production has been inconsistent, but so has his QB play. He has always been a guy that defenses have to plan for though.
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
I suspect we might see one of those days this Sunday. Plaxico looked like Superman in Week 1 after he signed his new contract.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
4 year $37.25M extension. $18.25M of it guaranteed. $27M over the first 3 years of the deal (including this year). Signed through 2012.
Pretty good chunk of money for Lee, but not THAT outrageous. The price on top WRs is just going to keep going up. And it looks to be in that second tier of top receivers compared to what Moss, Fitzgerald, etc. are making. Heck, Javon Walker has a 6 year $55M deal.
ETA: From Adam Schefter
Pretty good chunk of money for Lee, but not THAT outrageous. The price on top WRs is just going to keep going up. And it looks to be in that second tier of top receivers compared to what Moss, Fitzgerald, etc. are making. Heck, Javon Walker has a 6 year $55M deal.
ETA: From Adam Schefter
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huh?I don't think of him as a guy that drops many passes at all. From his FBG player page, it looks to me like he has 247 receptions on 435 targets for a reception ratio of 57%. Is that low compared to most of the league's best receivers?
cheaper than Devin Hester. awesome deal, IMO.
OC Zed
Footballguy
This sounds like a good deal for the Bills. I would have liked to have seen a fifth year tacked on to that, but Lee will certainly be on the downside of his career by 2013, so we can probably resign him then for a reasonable (cheaper) price.Anyone have a good link to compare this deal with other WR deals from this off-season?
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed - I would have liked to have seen him go to a more pass-friendly offense, but on the other hand, I doubt he's going to be paid that much money to be a decoy. He does seem to be developing more and more chemistry with Edwards, who continues to improve.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
Important signing for the Bills. As they continue to improve and their young players get closer to their second contract they need to prove they can keep them. This is a step in that direction.
Moneywise I think it's a decent deal for both sides. Evans definetly should be happy getting that type of coin when you consider his actual production (and I do understand the situation he's been in). On the flipside Buffalo knows what they have in Evans and WR is a position you can really waste money on in free agency.
Moneywise I think it's a decent deal for both sides. Evans definetly should be happy getting that type of coin when you consider his actual production (and I do understand the situation he's been in). On the flipside Buffalo knows what they have in Evans and WR is a position you can really waste money on in free agency.
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Tommy Collins
Footballguy
YES. We finally kept a player we drafted instead of letting them go to FA. Thank god!
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
About time. I really hope the FO/Ralph will keep the core of this team together.
Wildcat
Footballguy
If you know anything about Evans, you would know how ridiculous that statement is. He's a class guy.Yeah -- finally Evans will stop playing hard to get a contract extension.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The only one that looking back on was a total mistake in letting go was Pat Williams. An argument could be made for Antoine Winfield too since his contract looks a lot smaller now compared to when he signed it. But it's not like the Vikings have had a great pass defense since he's been there. Other than that, I can't really say that the Bills have messed up in letting guys go. Clements is ridiculously overpaid, the Bills got killed when they trade Peerless Price for a 2nd rounder and that worked out just fine, and letting Moulds walk when he did worked just fine as well. Jonas Jennings was another guy that the Bills got killed for letting go and he's managed to be injured and whiney just like when he was in Buffalo.
Letting Pat Williams walk was definitely a huge error on their part. I would have liked to see them lock up Nate Clements earlier before he could command that type of salary, but they have rebounded fine from that move. I would have liked to see them keep London Fletcher around too, but Poz is a potential upgrade at MLB and much younger/cheaper. Letting Jonas Jennings walk was an easy decision given his injury history. Peerless Price was franchised then traded for a 1st round pick that got them McGahee. The McGahee move probably got them some heat, but Lynch/Jackson are an upgrade so that worked out great too.GroveDiesel said:
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.
Maybe this contract looks good by the end of it, but, despite some of the awful contracts ( J. Walker ), this sure looks like overpaying. I like Evans, and while I don't follow the Bills, I'll take the fanbase's word that he's a class guy and good worker. But he appears to me to be in a lower tier than the top guys, and paying top money for less production isn't a good way to build a franchise.Evans looks like a top flight WR2, the deep threat that can stretch a D, but doesn't do much in short to intermediate routes, and doesn't do much in the middle of the field. I think he's miscast as a WR1, and can be shut down. He'd thrive with a more complete receiver opposite him to draw coverage.
Good contract for Evans, though, and good for the fans that get to keep rooting for one of the organization's good guys. I hope it works out well.
Bluefire
Footballguy
The Bills were in the bottom 3 for pass attempts the past two years, and the bottom 3rd for years now.Even still, Evans lead the Bills in receptions in 07 and 06 since Eric Moulds left (including catching 82 two years ago).You don't do that by being a receiver that just goes deep.Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.Maybe this contract looks good by the end of it, but, despite some of the awful contracts ( J. Walker
), this sure looks like overpaying. I like Evans, and while I don't follow the Bills, I'll take the fanbase's word that he's a class guy and good worker. But he appears to me to be in a lower tier than the top guys, and paying top money for less production isn't a good way to build a franchise. Evans looks like a top flight WR2, the deep threat that can stretch a D, but doesn't do much in short to intermediate routes, and doesn't do much in the middle of the field. I think he's miscast as a WR1, and can be shut down. He'd thrive with a more complete receiver opposite him to draw coverage. Good contract for Evans, though, and good for the fans that get to keep rooting for one of the organization's good guys. I hope it works out well.
OC Zed
Footballguy
The Bills were in the bottom 3 for pass attempts the past two years, and the bottom 3rd for years now.Even still, Evans lead the Bills in receptions in 07 and 06 since Eric Moulds left (including catching 82 two years ago).You don't do that by being a receiver that just goes deep.Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.
It should be added that the Bills have not had a true #2 WR since Evans assumed the #1 role. Josh Reed is a very competent wide receiver, but is best when working in the slot. James Hardy was drafted to be the #2 guy, but has not been able to produce thus far in his rookie season. Only time will tell with him...But in all seriousness, Evans still must get over 50% of his catches and yards on go routes. It's pretty comical actually, particularly since EVERYONE knows what's coming.
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
I'd venture closer to 75% of his FF production. Though the Bills have added a few complimentary slant/go combination patterns this year, which is nice to see.The Bills were in the bottom 3 for pass attempts the past two years, and the bottom 3rd for years now.Even still, Evans lead the Bills in receptions in 07 and 06 since Eric Moulds left (including catching 82 two years ago).Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.
Maybe this contract looks good by the end of it, but, despite some of the awful contracts ( J. Walker :X ), this sure looks like overpaying. I like Evans, and while I don't follow the Bills, I'll take the fanbase's word that he's a class guy and good worker. But he appears to me to be in a lower tier than the top guys, and paying top money for less production isn't a good way to build a franchise.
Evans looks like a top flight WR2, the deep threat that can stretch a D, but doesn't do much in short to intermediate routes, and doesn't do much in the middle of the field. I think he's miscast as a WR1, and can be shut down. He'd thrive with a more complete receiver opposite him to draw coverage.
Good contract for Evans, though, and good for the fans that get to keep rooting for one of the organization's good guys. I hope it works out well.
You don't do that by being a receiver that just goes deep.
But in all seriousness, Evans still must get over 50% of his catches and yards on go routes. It's pretty comical actually, particularly since EVERYONE knows what's coming.
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munchkin
Footballguy
Love the Hartford Whalers avtar, they had their run back in the day though Gordie Howe was way over the hill when they brought him in to play with his son.Why is it that Buffalo does not design any plays for Evans over the middle? Have they tried this in the past with him exhibiting alligator arms? Marvin Harrison isn't exactly a hard nosed football player but he knows how to get open all over the field and when to drop to the turf before getting hammered.I'd venture closer to 75% of his FF production. Though the Bills have added a few complimentary slant/go combination patterns this year, which is nice to see.The Bills were in the bottom 3 for pass attempts the past two years, and the bottom 3rd for years now.Even still, Evans lead the Bills in receptions in 07 and 06 since Eric Moulds left (including catching 82 two years ago).Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.
Maybe this contract looks good by the end of it, but, despite some of the awful contracts ( J. Walker), this sure looks like overpaying. I like Evans, and while I don't follow the Bills, I'll take the fanbase's word that he's a class guy and good worker. But he appears to me to be in a lower tier than the top guys, and paying top money for less production isn't a good way to build a franchise.
Evans looks like a top flight WR2, the deep threat that can stretch a D, but doesn't do much in short to intermediate routes, and doesn't do much in the middle of the field. I think he's miscast as a WR1, and can be shut down. He'd thrive with a more complete receiver opposite him to draw coverage.
Good contract for Evans, though, and good for the fans that get to keep rooting for one of the organization's good guys. I hope it works out well.
You don't do that by being a receiver that just goes deep.
But in all seriousness, Evans still must get over 50% of his catches and yards on go routes. It's pretty comical actually, particularly since EVERYONE knows what's coming.
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
Long live the Whale. There's a documentary coming out about we long-suffering Whalers fans: http://www.bleedinggreenmovie.com/Trailer.html.Could not agree more with the Harrison comparison, as Evans's skill set is akin to a young Marvin Harrison. That is his full potential, if he were to ever to fall into the correct coaching and scheme.Love the Hartford Whalers avtar, they had their run back in the day though Gordie Howe was way over the hill when they brought him in to play with his son.Why is it that Buffalo does not design any plays for Evans over the middle? Have they tried this in the past with him exhibiting alligator arms? Marvin Harrison isn't exactly a hard nosed football player but he knows how to get open all over the field and when to drop to the turf before getting hammered.I'd venture closer to 75% of his FF production. Though the Bills have added a few complimentary slant/go combination patterns this year, which is nice to see.The Bills were in the bottom 3 for pass attempts the past two years, and the bottom 3rd for years now.Even still, Evans lead the Bills in receptions in 07 and 06 since Eric Moulds left (including catching 82 two years ago).Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.
Maybe this contract looks good by the end of it, but, despite some of the awful contracts ( J. Walker :X ), this sure looks like overpaying. I like Evans, and while I don't follow the Bills, I'll take the fanbase's word that he's a class guy and good worker. But he appears to me to be in a lower tier than the top guys, and paying top money for less production isn't a good way to build a franchise.
Evans looks like a top flight WR2, the deep threat that can stretch a D, but doesn't do much in short to intermediate routes, and doesn't do much in the middle of the field. I think he's miscast as a WR1, and can be shut down. He'd thrive with a more complete receiver opposite him to draw coverage.
Good contract for Evans, though, and good for the fans that get to keep rooting for one of the organization's good guys. I hope it works out well.
You don't do that by being a receiver that just goes deep.
But in all seriousness, Evans still must get over 50% of his catches and yards on go routes. It's pretty comical actually, particularly since EVERYONE knows what's coming.
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Bluefire
Footballguy
Actually, Schonert is starting to do that. There have been a few times this year that Evans has made catches between the numbers.
Evans played like a true #1 WR in 2006 and clearly has the potential to be one of the league's elite if he can get consistent QB play and a coaching staff that knows how to use him. The offense became stagnant last year and was far too conservative during most weeks. They've been more aggressive this year and Edwards is emerging as a quality QB. Evans has excellent deep speed as everyone knows, but he also runs crisp routes, has soft hands, and is very good running after the catch. He's a complete receiver in the same mold as guys like Steve Smith and Santana Moss. As long as the line can give the QB time and the QB can deliver the ball accurately (two things the Bills have struggled with in recent years), Evans is going to have no trouble living up to that contract. I'm certain he would have commanded a lot more on the open market next year, although the Bills would have used the franchise tag to keep him around. This works out much better for both sides.
Edwards/Lynch/Evans is a phenomenal young core to build the offense around, combined with Peters at LT and a young, promising defense. Hopefully, Schonert can prove to be a great hire for the OC job as well.
When management/ownership makes a commitment like this to a key player, it will also make it easier for them to attract other players and convince other guys to stick around. Bills are starting to build something special so hopefully they can continue.
I still don't understand what happened with Crowell though. That move really bugs me, but fortunately it hasn't hurt them yet.
Edwards/Lynch/Evans is a phenomenal young core to build the offense around, combined with Peters at LT and a young, promising defense. Hopefully, Schonert can prove to be a great hire for the OC job as well.
When management/ownership makes a commitment like this to a key player, it will also make it easier for them to attract other players and convince other guys to stick around. Bills are starting to build something special so hopefully they can continue.
I still don't understand what happened with Crowell though. That move really bugs me, but fortunately it hasn't hurt them yet.
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munchkin
Footballguy
Hartford sits in a bad spot to pick up a professional team again. I followed the Springfield Indians (AHL) pretty closely in the 60's and 70's before I moved down to the Boston area ( I am now in CO). Hockey was huge then with the influence of the B's in general and Orr in particular. I saw some great AHL games with Goring and Billy Smith before they were called up to the Islanders. Wow that was a looooooooooong time ago.Long live the Whale. There's a documentary coming out about we long-suffering Whalers fans: http://www.bleedinggreenmovie.com/Trailer.html.Could not agree more with the Harrison comparison, as Evans's skill set is akin to a young Marvin Harrison. That is his full potential, if he were to ever to fall into the correct coaching and scheme.Love the Hartford Whalers avtar, they had their run back in the day though Gordie Howe was way over the hill when they brought him in to play with his son.Why is it that Buffalo does not design any plays for Evans over the middle? Have they tried this in the past with him exhibiting alligator arms? Marvin Harrison isn't exactly a hard nosed football player but he knows how to get open all over the field and when to drop to the turf before getting hammered.I'd venture closer to 75% of his FF production. Though the Bills have added a few complimentary slant/go combination patterns this year, which is nice to see.The Bills were in the bottom 3 for pass attempts the past two years, and the bottom 3rd for years now.Even still, Evans lead the Bills in receptions in 07 and 06 since Eric Moulds left (including catching 82 two years ago).Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.
Maybe this contract looks good by the end of it, but, despite some of the awful contracts ( J. Walker), this sure looks like overpaying. I like Evans, and while I don't follow the Bills, I'll take the fanbase's word that he's a class guy and good worker. But he appears to me to be in a lower tier than the top guys, and paying top money for less production isn't a good way to build a franchise.
Evans looks like a top flight WR2, the deep threat that can stretch a D, but doesn't do much in short to intermediate routes, and doesn't do much in the middle of the field. I think he's miscast as a WR1, and can be shut down. He'd thrive with a more complete receiver opposite him to draw coverage.
Good contract for Evans, though, and good for the fans that get to keep rooting for one of the organization's good guys. I hope it works out well.
You don't do that by being a receiver that just goes deep.
But in all seriousness, Evans still must get over 50% of his catches and yards on go routes. It's pretty comical actually, particularly since EVERYONE knows what's coming.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Admittedly limited on my knowledge of Evans skillset, as I only see him once or twice a year, and then facing NE, which hasn't been a good matchup for the Bills for the past few years. Most of my opinion of his play comes from the box scores, which can be a very limiting vantage point.With improved QB play, you all seem to agree that he has true elite #1 WR potential. From what you've seen out of him so far, do you think he has the combination of hands, quicks, and precision route running to get in the neighborhood of Marvin? I know he has the top end speed. Also, does Edwards look like a long term solution, in terms of accuracy and reading defenses, to stick long term and grow the repore with Evans, similar to the Manning/Harrison tandem?Long live the Whale. There's a documentary coming out about we long-suffering Whalers fans: http://www.bleedinggreenmovie.com/Trailer.html.Could not agree more with the Harrison comparison, as Evans's skill set is akin to a young Marvin Harrison. That is his full potential, if he were to ever to fall into the correct coaching and scheme.Love the Hartford Whalers avtar, they had their run back in the day though Gordie Howe was way over the hill when they brought him in to play with his son.Why is it that Buffalo does not design any plays for Evans over the middle? Have they tried this in the past with him exhibiting alligator arms? Marvin Harrison isn't exactly a hard nosed football player but he knows how to get open all over the field and when to drop to the turf before getting hammered.I'd venture closer to 75% of his FF production. Though the Bills have added a few complimentary slant/go combination patterns this year, which is nice to see.The Bills were in the bottom 3 for pass attempts the past two years, and the bottom 3rd for years now.Even still, Evans lead the Bills in receptions in 07 and 06 since Eric Moulds left (including catching 82 two years ago).Just came in to post this. I thought I heard on ESPN radio it made him 3rd highest, but apparently 4th.
Maybe this contract looks good by the end of it, but, despite some of the awful contracts ( J. Walker :X ), this sure looks like overpaying. I like Evans, and while I don't follow the Bills, I'll take the fanbase's word that he's a class guy and good worker. But he appears to me to be in a lower tier than the top guys, and paying top money for less production isn't a good way to build a franchise.
Evans looks like a top flight WR2, the deep threat that can stretch a D, but doesn't do much in short to intermediate routes, and doesn't do much in the middle of the field. I think he's miscast as a WR1, and can be shut down. He'd thrive with a more complete receiver opposite him to draw coverage.
Good contract for Evans, though, and good for the fans that get to keep rooting for one of the organization's good guys. I hope it works out well.
You don't do that by being a receiver that just goes deep.It should be added that the Bills have not had a true #2 WR since Evans assumed the #1 role. Josh Reed is a very competent wide receiver, but is best when working in the slot. James Hardy was drafted to be the #2 guy, but has not been able to produce thus far in his rookie season. Only time will tell with him...
But in all seriousness, Evans still must get over 50% of his catches and yards on go routes. It's pretty comical actually, particularly since EVERYONE knows what's coming.
TIA.
OC Zed
Footballguy
The comparisons to Marvin Harrison are strained due to the fact that Harrison's career has been so greatly predicated by playing with Manning and comparing Manning to other quarterbacks just isn't fair. With that being said, Edwards does look like the long-term solution at quarterback. Without sounding too much like a homer, Edwards' poise, ability to read defenses and accuracy are something you only see in veteran quarterbacks. Although you do not necessarily notice it in the stat sheet (yet), the guy simply looks light years ahead of what his experience says he should be. So, ya, given that Edwards should be there with Evans for the long-term, it only bodes well for both players' production numbers.
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
Evans has first rate hands for a small receiver -- a step below guys like CJ, Wayne and Colston. He's not as quick as say, Steve Smith or Santana Moss -- closer to Greg Jennings or Santonio Holmes. He's a very smart receiver, has elite separation skills, and never quits on a pattern. He doesn't run routes as well as Harrison (who does? arguably, only Jerry Rice) but he is a little tougher after contact.However, Edwards will never be Peyton Manning. And, unless Marv Levy and Ted Marchibroda return to the sidelines, the Bills will never run a prolific dome style offense like Indy.
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Evans is a more talented WR than Marvin Harrison. Not as precise in his routes, but he can do pretty much everything Marvin can do while he's also more physical and a much better downfield blocker. I think he also has better RAC skills than Harrison. Marvin usually falls down at first sign of contact. Evans can break tackles and make people miss in the open field. Unfortunately, his talent hasn't always translated to production but I don't think there's any doubt this is a good deal for him and for the Bills. They have to spend money somewhere and he's a great guy to start with. The new money coming in from Toronto should certainly help them to hand out some bigger signing bonuses than they have in the past.
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Road Warriors
Footballguy
Great stuff guys. Thanks.
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WampusCat43
Footballguy
Ditto. I came in here to find out if he might slack off after this signing, and got just the info I needed. Gracias.
zamboni
Footballguy
Here's hoping he goes off on Sunday like Plaxico did right after signing his new deal at the beginning of the season.
GoBills02
Footballguy
Have you been happy with Ellison?
GoBills02
Footballguy
added- not being a homer, but Lee has a history of starting slow, but his numbers on above his usual 4 week numbers, I;m trying like crazy to trade for him in a coule of leagues, offering up Cotchery and Colston in a couple. We'll see.
Aaron, great summary about the core, gave me chills.
Aaron, great summary about the core, gave me chills.
not at all. huge downgrade from Crowell there.
GoBills02
Footballguy
I agree 100%. it hasn't bit the Bills in the #### yet, but there is a drop off. I haven't even been impresses with Ellison's "so called strength" and that was pass coverage.Getting to go to the game this weekend, which doesn't help our Bills. I'm 1-8 in the last 5 years attending!
SSOG
Moderator
Low compared to the mid-range guys, the chain-movers, the YAC guys. A little low compared to the truly elite deep threats. Generally, 60% is an elite season for a long-baller like Evans. Given his exceptionally high ypr, 57% is still very good.A better way to compare receivers with different styles, imo, is yards per target. It evens the playing field between the low-percentage, high-value reception guys and the high-percentage, low-value reception guys. Any time a receiver posts a ypt of 10, that's an elite season. It's still early, but Evans ypt is currently 13.5. If that held up for an entire season, it would easily be the best mark I've seen in several years worth of tracking the stat.
Evans ran very hot-and-cold last season, but it's unclear how much of that is on Evans and how much is on the rest of the offense (which was pretty brutal). Judging him based on his 2006 season, though... Evans can't be shut down. Period. In my opinion, he was the best receiver in the entire NFL in 2006, easily. Just unstoppable despite playing in an offense helmed by J.P. Losman with no running game or complementary threats to keep defenses from keying on him. I think Evans is one of the top 10 WRs in the league.
Evans, in my opinion, is halfway between a Marvin Harrison and a Steve Smith. Better straight-line speed than either, imo. His open-field moves aren't quite as nifty as Smith's, and his routes aren't quite as crisp as Harrison's, but they're at least in the conversation. He's not as good between the numbers as either receiver, but he's not bad, either... and he's better than either down the field. Awesome burst lets him get quick separation virtually at will. Hands could be better, but that means they're simply great rather than truly elite.
