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Duckett is bigger and faster than White, yet he's lacks the vision that a featured RB needs. He takes too long to hit the holes and ends up getting a few yards instead of being able to break more long runs. Talent-wise, I think Duckett is better than White, but White seems to have better vision as a RB. I'm not 100% sold on White as an every-down back (I have DeAngelo rated higher) but he's a big RB who a lot of teams could use.
Who would you take #1?With 2 picks in the first 4 spots in my main Dynasty League rooiie/FA draft i would cream my shorts, front and back, if it shook out this way
True. I'd see 3 of the others falling further than Maroney, just my opinion.
The problem for Maroney is that he probably won't be the #1 RB on many draft boards. Teams looking for pass-catching backs will probably prefer Williams, Bush, and Addai. Teams looking for power backs will prefer White (one of the reasons why I think White will go high is because he's the only legitimate 225+ pound back in the draft). Maroney could be the second choice for a lot of teams, meaning it may be a while before his name is called.I operate under a few assumptions:
Isn't Polian the same guy who took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams? It seems like the Colts march to the tune of their own drummer on draft day. Addai isn't as proven as Maroney, but he has better athletic measurables and is a better pass-catcher. I think it's his receiving ability that may set him apart from Maroney in Indy's eyes. Then again, you just never know. Maybe they'll be content to draft Maroney and use Rhodes as the third-down back. It's tough to say.
You know better than that. It all depends on where people go. Does Houston trade out of 1.1? Does Denver finally draft a RB in the first round? Does Indy draft a RB in the first round? Do the Jags or Pats draft a RB in the first? It all depends...Who would you take #1?With 2 picks in the first 4 spots in my main Dynasty League rooiie/FA draft i would cream my shorts, front and back, if it shook out this way
Wow, calm down there. My team would not be in the market for him anyway. I just don't think much of him that's all.If you don't like him, fine. I do. So what? I was just giving two examples of reasons why I'm not too worried about his weight. I apologize if you are on the draft committee of a team picking in the 20s or later trying to push his value down. It is not my intent to ruin your teams chances.:apples: andranges: with boxers. Bettis was fit when he came to the NFL and he adjusted to his body type as he grew older. White is already an eating machine and soon as he gets that five year deal you can catch him signing autographs while he's in line waiting on his two Triple Whoppers and a diet coke.
I'm saying it it happens like this who do you pick?You know better than that. It all depends on where people go. Does Houston trade out of 1.1? Does Denver finally draft a RB in the first round? Does Indy draft a RB in the first round? Do the Jags or Pats draft a RB in the first? It all depends...Who would you take #1?With 2 picks in the first 4 spots in my main Dynasty League rooiie/FA draft i would cream my shorts, front and back, if it shook out this way
I have every USC game on tape from the last 3 years, and I happen to find this statement to be false. White has always been a consistent and determined runner. Even when he played the last half of the 2004 season with a badly sprained ankle. He is a tough runner that USC relied on to rack up the TD's, which he did quite well. In 39 games with the Trojans, White started only eleven times, yet had 14 100-yard games. Reggie Bush ended his USC career with only 10 100-yard games.
Excellent post.I'm not talking about his numbers in college, but his future production as an NFL player. You're obviously a White fan and I'm not. And that's fine because these are all opinions anyway--we won't no for sure until the regular season starts. I guess this is where we have to agree to disagree. Regarding the Pats, they may poised to take a young RB in the draft but if they draft White I will not like it. They can get another RB in later rounds to meet their needs, which is what I foresee them doing.
No offense, DrJ, but you go on believing that.. I'm firmly with Cecil on this one. YAC is not the same as not being able to make people miss. I hope the guys in my leagues think this way... I'll take Chauncey's cousin any day of the week.It could also be argued that this is an indication that he can't make people miss, and he won't be able to run over people the same way he did in college.You can spin this stuff any way you like.
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Duckett is bigger and faster than White, yet he's lacks the vision that a featured RB needs. He takes too long to hit the holes and ends up getting a few yards instead of being able to break more long runs. Talent-wise, I think Duckett is better than White, but White seems to have better vision as a RB. I'm not 100% sold on White as an every-down back (I have DeAngelo rated higher) but he's a big RB who a lot of teams could use.
Late last season I posted that the local Gopher reporter talked to a scout who was checking out Maroney. The scout told him that he didn't think Maroney would be drafted in the first round, more likely would be a 2nd rounder because he had no 'WOW' qualities to him. Good RB, but not a great blocker, great receiver, doesn't have great vision, great speed, or great power. He is very good at all the things, but doesn't have any 'great' qualities.
I would lean towards LenDale White with Denver, but now that he didn't run on pro day, I have no idea. The kid in Indy maybe?I'm saying it it happens like this who do you pick?You know better than that. It all depends on where people go. Does Houston trade out of 1.1? Does Denver finally draft a RB in the first round? Does Indy draft a RB in the first round? Do the Jags or Pats draft a RB in the first? It all depends...Who would you take #1?With 2 picks in the first 4 spots in my main Dynasty League rooiie/FA draft i would cream my shorts, front and back, if it shook out this way
White is going to present a very tough call for GMs - his gameplay is exceptional and I think he has proven he *could* be an elite chainmover. The way he has approached the "audition" pre-draft period is about as poor as you could have imagined. Is this a wake-up call, or is this is an accurate picture of what his dedication/work ethic/practice habits will be? He just might be good enough to be successful even with these issues, but would you be willing to take that chance? He still has a month to rehabilitate his status on these questions, but the shadow of doubt has been cast.Im even toying with the unthinkable scenario that he's there for the Steelers at 1.32 and they still pass on him.
And one would think the Steelers, of all teams, would be comfortable with a great big fat ### carrying the groceries.
But everything we've seen from Bettis is one of a class act.Lendale White is showing that he's a thug. Just the kind that many NFL franchises have found quite expensive to have/remove on/from their rosters.
I don't think that if White slips to #30 that the Colts would take him after yesterday. The Colts want players with work ethic and speed over almost anything else (including height, bulk, etc).I would lean towards LenDale White with Denver, but now that he didn't run on pro day, I have no idea. The kid in Indy maybe?I'm saying it it happens like this who do you pick?You know better than that. It all depends on where people go. Does Houston trade out of 1.1? Does Denver finally draft a RB in the first round? Does Indy draft a RB in the first round? Do the Jags or Pats draft a RB in the first? It all depends...Who would you take #1?With 2 picks in the first 4 spots in my main Dynasty League rooiie/FA draft i would cream my shorts, front and back, if it shook out this way
Agree Bettis was a Class individual. Please don't mistake my meaning. Being a fat ### myself i like to see 'one of my own' so to speak, succeed so wildly. Bettis struck a blow for all us bowling fat asses, and he sports one fine beard as well. I'm definately a fan.
And if I'm not mistaken, wasn't Bettis somewhat of a freak for someone his size? I know he had the jelly roll belly but didn't he have good speed as well? I seem to remember watching him run while at Notre Dame and it seemed like he had a 5th gear to pull away from people once he got in the open. So not only was Bettis a class act, but he was a hell of an athlete for his size. Ofcourse later in his career he lost a step and he would get gassed after about 30 yards and someone could chase him down from behind. But until LenDale's attitude and work ethic improve I wouldn't compare him to Bettis out of respect FOR Bettis.
The only problem that I see with this, is that you can get a RB in the later rounds, when it is less of a risk. Guys like Laurence Maroney, Brian Calhoun, Joseph Addai, Wali Lundy, Dontrell Moore, Cedrick Humes, Gerald Riggs, Jr. They may not be all that less productive than LenDale White on any of these teams.
Exactly. I think Maroney and Addai have both moved ahead of White in terms of desirablilty.When all is said and done, though, Addai will go after White.
I would disagree on Lundy, Moore, and Riggs, I think all 3 are long shots at best and I wouldnt spend higher than a 5th on any of them. I do think Humes, De'Arrius Howard, and Derrick Ross all present interesting later round power RB options.
He's a thug because he's an undisciplined eater?
Nice catch. 
