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I like how this was a study done in rodents. I guess they weren’t yet comfortable testing out this substance on humans?
I like how this was a study done in rodents. I guess they weren’t yet comfortable testing out this substance on humans?
Starting back on your diet is a critical skill that you have not yet developed. It's one of the things people call "willpower" but it's really something you have to learn. I did not have this skill when I took my first ever cheat day, and it derailed me for a week. I tried logging in to do myfitnesspal and I just... didn't stop when I hit my calorie goal. In my head I knew that a cheat day wasn't the end of the world, so why not two? In the morning I was ready to diet again and conquer the world, but at night I was conniving and wanted to eat more and drink wine.
One of the things that helped was that I was not going over my daily energy expenditure, just my calorie goals. So if my goal is to lose two pounds a week, my goal is set for 1000 less than I need, and if i go over my goal by 500 today, I'll still be burning 500 more than I ate. So one thing that helped was to keep tracking even when I was "cheating" and keep the cheat from getting out of control. When you turn off myfitnesspal altogether, you're more likely to have the 5000 calorie blowout.
Bear in mind that I literally turned off myfitnesspal Tuesday night after a day of otherwise good eating and drank wine and ate food I shouldn't have. I'm not saying you can never do that, just that doing it has consequences and it will take time to undo those. I weighed in this morning and still weigh a bit more than I did Tuesday morning.
And Wednesday when I woke up I had coffee and regretted my decisions and felt a little gross because I definitely did not stop at one glass of wine, and I hadn't drank a drop in over a month so it hits different. And it sucked. I woke up and logged my coffee and my breakfast but I wanted to eat like i did last night because that was so much more fun and dieting sucks and why am I like this and oh yeah this is how I got so fat in the first place. So I logged everything, and stayed under my calorie goal, even though I didn't really feel like it.
You turned off myfitnesspal for what... 4 days? 5? Depending how much you over indulged, it might take you a couple weeks to undo that. That's totally normal. It's part of the process. But imagine if you had contained that to 3 days. Or two.
Another thing that I think really helped me was taking "cheat meals" fairly often but not taking "cheat days". Keeping breakfast and lunch small, doing my exercise, and then going all out on a 1000 plus calorie dinner. For you that's been a smallish dinner and a glass or two of wine. And I think that's what helped you get on board with myfitnesspal and that's awesome.
Cheat meals are the reason I don't usually need cheat days. Today is Saturday and I'm taking my kid somewhere for his weekly reward. He's excited to go to a local pizza place... that's known for their giant slices... and awesome barbecue chicken and Buffalo chicken pizza.... and I love this place. This could easily be problematic. I could easily justify to myself that this is a special occasion and a lot of weeks he picks some bull#### place I don't even like but this is a favorite and I'll cheat. But I don't have to.
I'm going to make a protein shake with lots of fruit to get some vitamins and fiber without a lot of calories, I'm going to do my yoga and cardio to earn some more room, I have some cooked shrimp and carrots/broccoli/cauliflower that are a ton of protein and fiber, and I'm leaving myself room for three huge slices of pizza without going over. And I'll have three more tomorrow for the superbowl.
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Think about what I'm saying here. The reason I'm giving you these examples is that these are the skills to get back on.
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Accept that you cheat but contain the cheating to as few days as possible.
Learn that it takes several days to recover from one day of cheating badly, and that cheating badly today will really piss you off later.
Try to put constraints on your cheat days by logging your food even if you go over goal. If you eat 1000 calories over your goal of burning 1000 extra, it still feels like cheating but you won't put on any fat.
Don't cheat when you don't have to. You cheat when you're under stress. Ok, then don't cheat when you're not under stress. Use cheat meals like i do, plan your day Sunday around the cheating, and don't just think "I'll make some nachos and wings and a beer or two", but check out the calories in advance and decide how much of each you can have based on the food and exercise you have earlier in the day. If that's three beers, 7 wings and a dozen nachos, then you get a beer and count out the nachos on your plate early in the game and then go back for 3 wings later and then go back and get a beer and two more and two more after that and another beer and spread it out a little. Or whatever works for you.
After a cheat day, get back started on myfitnesspal the next day and log everything. In the morning you're able to do it. It's night time that gets you. So start it up in the morning and give yourself a chance to get back on track later.
Get used to that ####ty feeling when you're getting back on your diet and want to just keep being a big fat fatty. You broke your routine and need to reestablish it.
And yes you will need to get used to eating healthier over time. But you are doing awesome, even with some cheating in there. Because you're developing the skills that will last a long time. Just make sure you actually do it.
I love that you are finding ways to indulge during the week while staying under calories. Eventually I would like to see that become so normal that you can tweak it, but Rome wasn't built in a day and neither are healthy habits so let's focus on one thing right now and that's getting your calorie intake under control and losing the weight you've been trying to lose for the better part of a decade. So right now as long as your doctor isn't telling you that you need to cut the salt or the booze or make other urgent changes, focus on this one thing.
Oh...I will log it...and I will not like the number I see at the end of the day. But also will make me think to not get that second plate of mac and cheese or more ribs. And make better choices this morning.Not sure if I'll even bother counting today. May just call it 4ooo and call it a day.
Yesterday was 1561. Damn extra potato and a single beer turned an excellent day in a miss. That's 3 consecutive days over goal. I did get to the gym to lift.
Amazon delivers the new scale today. I guess I can blame lack of progress on the new scale.
Count and log it anyway. Better to stay in the rhythm of tracking, being honest and accountable. Maybe it will mean you only eat 3000 calories instead by tracking it. Or it lets you know the impact you have by eating 4000 calories in a day. How much it sets you back.Not sure if I'll even bother counting today. May just call it 4ooo and call it a day.
Yesterday was 1561. Damn extra potato and a single beer turned an excellent day in a miss. That's 3 consecutive days over goal. I did get to the gym to lift.
Amazon delivers the new scale today. I guess I can blame lack of progress on the new scale.
There's enough evidence to say once you go to like 3x your bmr the rest is just #### out.Meal time coming up. porterhouse should push me to 5000k and then the beer drinking gets serious if Mahomes can stop sucking
Cool. Thanks and game onThere's enough evidence to say once you go to like 3x your bmr the rest is just #### out.
It's probably like 2.5x but I'm hoping otis doesn't take this as a challengeCool. Thanks and game on
4930. On to the 4th quarterIt's probably like 2.5x but I'm hoping otis doesn't take this as a challenge
Not being a fat ###.Lots of people here had a cheat day yesterday... i had mine earlier in the week... one of the hardest things to do is get back on track the next day but it's so important.
It's frustrating because when you do get back into it you're like ok I'm ready let's do this I'm going to work twice as hard today!
But there's nothing you can do to really speed this process up. It's going to take time to lose weight safely. It's not about working harder today, it's about finding the motivation to stick with it every day. And after a cheat day you've just had a taste of not sticking with it, maybe you turned off myfitnesspal for the day or kept a running total of 230 calorie beers and pizza like bass... it's tough to wake up and get back to it.
So let's talk about some things to be motivated about.
I haven't been to the doctor's in a while and am overdue for a physical that I should have scheduled but covid... I feel like I've been studying hard for a test that everyone fails and I'm about to ace it.
I can't wait to see friends who haven't seen me since I was near my peak weight.
What are some things you are looking forward to?
https://i.redd.it/o7ggvilni1g61.pngNot being a fat ###.
Back at it today. Leftover beers are going into the other fridge to age until summer.
My “cheat day” was Saturday. Had friends visiting us (outdoors) and ate way too much. But fortunately, I ran 9 miles in the morning and walked another 5 with my wife before company arrived. So “cheat day” turned into me eating way more than normal but also burning tons of calories. Still, I ate like crap.Lots of people here had a cheat day yesterday... i had mine earlier in the week... one of the hardest things to do is get back on track the next day but it's so important.
It's frustrating because when you do get back into it you're like ok I'm ready let's do this I'm going to work twice as hard today!
But there's nothing you can do to really speed this process up. It's going to take time to lose weight safely. It's not about working harder today, it's about finding the motivation to stick with it every day. And after a cheat day you've just had a taste of not sticking with it, maybe you turned off myfitnesspal for the day or kept a running total of 230 calorie beers and pizza like bass... it's tough to wake up and get back to it.
So let's talk about some things to be motivated about.
I haven't been to the doctor's in a while and am overdue for a physical that I should have scheduled but covid... I feel like I've been studying hard for a test that everyone fails and I'm about to ace it.
I can't wait to see friends who haven't seen me since I was near my peak weight.
What are some things you are looking forward to?
You should be a motivational speaker.
You've pooped out 8 lbs 6 oz dozens of times, you can do thisHolding at 201. I guess it’s better than going up. I thought I would hit 199 today and be encouraged but instead I’m a little irritated with myself. Carry on everyone! You’re doing great.
Oh yes swimsuit or just shirt off in public will be awesome.I’m looking forward to buying new clothes. And going to the doctor for a physical. And playing basketball/tennis without the same level of fatigue. Gotta put on more muscle still - if I can stick with the muscle/healthy weight gain plan until summer, I look forward to wearing a swimsuit in public.
Ha! My smallest was that. The rest were 10 pounds. The biggest was 12 pounds! He’s 6 years old today!You've pooped out 8 lbs 6 oz dozens of times, you can do this
Yeah...that is what was big with yesterday and still keeping it logged...and part of why I found myself opting for something like noom...that extra kick in the pants (and having spent money making me more accountable and honest with myself).Count and log it anyway. Better to stay in the rhythm of tracking, being honest and accountable. Maybe it will mean you only eat 3000 calories instead by tracking it. Or it lets you know the impact you have by eating 4000 calories in a day. How much it sets you back.
One of the biggest changes I've had the past 3 months.....is that I've stopped lying to myself. That's a huge change.
shaya is probably my favorite place in New Orleans. Dallas was lucky that we stole someone from there who opened a similar concept restaurant called Sachet.I survived my anniversary weekend in New Orleans and got back on the plan yesterday. We hit a great cocktail place along with Shaya Friday night, but considering the overall temptation in the big easy I feel great.
My biggest transgression was Friday night ( 1 fancy cocktail and 4 Old Fashions).
Anyway the point is - this is starting to feel like a lifestyle change and maintenance already and not some death march to another failure. After Friday and Saturday off - I eased right back into Peloton, yoga, push ups, and a 3 mile walk yesterday.
Have a good week everyone, I will weigh in again this weekend.
Feb 8: 213.8.Jan 31: 213.0Thanksgiving to Christmas: 229.2 to 220.4.
New Years to Valentine's Day:
Jan 3: 220.0
Jan 9: 218.0
Jan 16: 216.2.
Jan 24: 214.4
Forgot to weigh myself until after eating a couple of cinnamon rolls and a glass of milk, but close enough. Still on track.
Nice. I highly recommend Saba also further down Magazine. That is the offspring of the original chef from Shaya after the legal issues.shaya is probably my favorite place in New Orleans. Dallas was lucky that we stole someone from there who opened a similar concept restaurant called Sachet.
Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave......1/25. 201.4
2/1. 199.6
2/8. 198.4.
Ate too much on Saturday and went over my calories goal but worked out and ate right yesterday to get back to the winning ways. Seems like I go over my calories goal one day/week. I will take that every week.
Most of us will eat poorly at times. As long as it does not become a habit and is not an excuse to abandon your goals, it’s not a road block; instead, it’s only a speed bump.
224.2 this morning, and while I am happy for you to call it a race I want you to know that if i somehow can't beat mr IPA cookies and chips it will... be my great pleasure actually.?. because it will mean that you've finally made a breakthrough... I'm fully locked in right now so you'd best bring your A game.Kept to my two beers yesterday as promised myself. Also kept to not counting as I promised myself. And instead of rowing I shoveled heavy wet snow outside twice (we got about 8” here), and rewarded myself with nachos and stuff.
Today was first day in a while back on full counting. It feels glorious. I just had a great IPA, and cookies and chips, and still closed out my diary with a few hundred calories to spare. Enjoyed it all, feel great. The first day back is the most important.
Off we go. Fred, you’re ahead of me here, but only by a handful of pounds I’m guessing, so still within reach of you. The race is on!
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I'm telling you guys, habanero pepper. Simple, cheap, and super good.Thanks - I may dip my toes in and try the Southwest Chipotle flavor on my eggs. May also try sprinkling it on my shrimp.
I've noticed that I haven't really missed the taste of salt. I made a turkey burger (using lean ground turkey) yesterday with simply italian seasoning, paprika and provolone cheese and it was awesome. I use the same seasoning on my salmon (sans the cheese) and it tastes great.
Pretty sure you’ve got me here. And I’m playing the long game. I’m sipping a glass of wine and about to pour another, but with over 600 calories remaining, who’s gonna stop me???224.2 this morning, and while I am happy for you to call it a race I want you to know that if i somehow can't beat mr IPA cookies and chips it will... be my great pleasure actually.?. because it will mean that you've finally made a breakthrough... I'm fully locked in right now so you'd best bring your A game.
Why do you think a several hundred caloric deficit that includes alcohol and junk food on consecutive days immediately after a bad week is 'playing the long game?'Pretty sure you’ve got me here. And I’m playing the long game. I’m sipping a glass of wine and about to pour another, but with over 600 calories remaining, who’s gonna stop me???
actually was disappointed to step on the scale this morning and see it 4lbs higher than before I left for my work trip. Week 1 was stellar, week 2 was apparently total devastation. Now, I’m thinking some of that is bloat and will vanish fast in the next couple days, but then again even that would put me a few lbs behind you.
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He has a 1600 calorie deficit, his goal is 1000 calorie deficit per day, and he's 600 away from that number. Alcohol and junk food aren't ideal but if he's building a sustainable habit of tracking calories and staying under his target every day, and getting used to turning the app back on after a cheat day or cheat week, he should not only lose some weight, but develop the long term skills to stop the inevitable backslide.Why do you think a several hundred caloric deficit that includes alcohol and junk food on consecutive days immediately after a bad week is 'playing the long game?'