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Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (5 Viewers)

I hope everything going on down there today is being filmed, and I hope more journalists are drawn to Ferguson. The chief of police, or whoever is making these idiotic decisions, can go live in China. He'll find their attitude toward transparency and freedom of the press more to his liking.
Yeah it's like if someone did something stupid on the internet, then tried to remove it without considering people took a screen grab of it. :mellow:

You can't hide this type of abuse by cracking down or trying a blackout, technology beats that in 2014.
So starved for attention with all these desperate look at me attempts in this thread. OK OK, I'll pet the yapping puppy.

Yes I looked into a fundly page, however... it quite obviously wasn't ever released. Why? Because we successfully raised the necessary $15k thanks to our generous sponsors. Booth was the biggest in fest history, Tipsy fed an army and got plenty of media coverage, and thousands of people dropped in and had a blast. We'd also like to welcome fellow FBGer sbonomo and his brother to the squad for next year. Great guys.

Thanks for checking on to make sure everything went smoothly though. It IS nice to know my sig is so far under your skin that it's evoked this sort of tantrum here and :e:lsewhere. :lol:
Shorter icon: :cry:

 
I'm embarrassed to be an American today.
Let me say I love my country, am totally proud of who we are, what we've done, what we are doing each and every day.

However.

This has been truly embarrassing to us. Video of peacfule protestors being teargassed, media being arrested, cops in surplus army gear basically looking like national police, for 5 days, images that could have been from Selma 1962 or Plaquemines Parish 1960's, this is what is being shown on Russia Today, European broadcasts, Chinese national tv, the mideast, you name it.

All this while we are objecting to Russia in Ukraine, and making declarations about democracy and human rights in the mideast. Putin must be loving this, our enemies can't pay for this kind of negative pr. They don't know what Ferguson is, to them this is all "USA".

All because of these jackwagon small town :censored: s. It's like you have a 3rd cousin with your last name who is named in the papers and everyone sees it all around town for some terrible crime. You try to explain, that's not "us", that's not what we're about, but to others it's just blahblahblah. It is actually literally embarrassing.

The state of Missouri needs to take over this police force now.

 
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It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.

 
I'm embarrassed to be an American today.
Let me say I love my country, am totally proud of who we are, what we've done, what we are doing each and every day.

However.

This has been truly embarrassing to us. Video of peacfule protestors being teargassed, media being arrested, cops in surplus army gear basically looking like national police, for 5 days, images that could have been from Selma 1962 or Plaquemines Parish 1960's, this is what is being shown on Russia Today, European broadcasts, Chinese national tv, the mideast, you name it.

All this while we are objecting to Russia in Ukraine, and making declarations about democracy and human rights in the mideast.

It's like you have a 3rd cousin who is named in the papers and everyone sees it all around time for some terrible crime. You try to explain, that's not "us", that's not what we're about, but to others it's just blahblahblah. It is actually literally embarrassing.

The state of Missouri needs to take over this police force now.
It is always embarrassing to be exposed as hypocrites.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Tons of evidence, both statistical and anecdotal (three innocent black men killed by cops in the last month!), first-person testimony and common sense says otherwise.

 
I'm embarrassed to be an American today.
Let me say I love my country, am totally proud of who we are, what we've done, what we are doing each and every day.

However.

This has been truly embarrassing to us. Video of peacfule protestors being teargassed, media being arrested, cops in surplus army gear basically looking like national police, for 5 days, images that could have been from Selma 1962 or Plaquemines Parish 1960's, this is what is being shown on Russia Today, European broadcasts, Chinese national tv, the mideast, you name it.

All this while we are objecting to Russia in Ukraine, and making declarations about democracy and human rights in the mideast.

It's like you have a 3rd cousin who is named in the papers and everyone sees it all around time for some terrible crime. You try to explain, that's not "us", that's not what we're about, but to others it's just blahblahblah. It is actually literally embarrassing.

The state of Missouri needs to take over this police force now.
It is always embarrassing to be exposed as hypocrites.
Who is being exposed as hypocritical? Lots of us are critical of foreign governments when they engage in this kind of stuff and are similarly critical of what's happening with the Ferguson police.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Young black guy here in Denver just got 3M for being abused in Denver Jail - not that rare

Feds are coming in soon to take over department

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?

 
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It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?
He was asking for it :shrug:

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Based on what I've heard and seen I'm impressed at the level of restraint shown by the citizens of Ferguson thus far. I'm pretty pissed at the cops there and I'm a thousand miles away.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?
Some citizens are peacefully protesting.

Some are breaking into places and looting.

Do I REALLY need to spell this out for you? :lol:

 
Based on what I've heard and seen I'm impressed at the level of restraint shown by the citizens of Ferguson thus far. I'm pretty pissed at the cops there and I'm a thousand miles away.
Agreed 10000% that the cops are way the hell out of line... even if a few bad apples on the citizens side aren't helping matters with looting and vandalism.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?
Some citizens are peacefully protesting.

Some are breaking into places and looting.

Do I REALLY need to spell this out for you? :lol:
Sure, go ahead.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
The blax
 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?
Some citizens are peacefully protesting.

Some are breaking into places and looting.

Do I REALLY need to spell this out for you? :lol:
Sure, go ahead.
here ya go :thumbup:

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Young black guy here in Denver just got 3M for being abused in Denver Jail - not that rare

Feds are coming in soon to take over department
Here in Minneapolis, I'd say 80% of the time I see a police officer dealing with a civilian, it is a black male. And I live in a very yuppy neighborhood. Can't tell me there isn't some kind of targetting there, intentional or not.

 


Violent crime rate in 2012

Ferguson 217.3
U.S. Average 214.0
The link, with further data, is here. Property crime in Ferguson has been much higher than the national average, in one year (2004) violent crime in Ferguson was lower than the national average. An index for all crimes in Ferguson has fallen by about 25% since 2000.
 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?
Some citizens are peacefully protesting.

Some are breaking into places and looting.

Do I REALLY need to spell this out for you? :lol:
Who was looting last night that needed to be gassed?

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?
Some citizens are peacefully protesting.

Some are breaking into places and looting.

Do I REALLY need to spell this out for you? :lol:
Who was looting last night that needed to be gassed?
"Them"
 
Who was looting last night that needed to be gassed?
Link to where I said someone needed to be gassed?

I said the cops are way the hell out of line.

I said unfortunately its about as unlikely good cops will force out the bad cops as it is the good citizens will force out the bad citizens.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Maybe this will be a kick in the ### of motivation for all the good police officers to clean their own house and get rid of the bad ones.
About as likely as the other side doing the same, unfortunately.
Other side?
This is a confrontation between citizens and officers, no?

Or am I imagining the last few days and everyone on the same side here?
Citizens are supposed to clean up their side from having unarmed people shot by the police?
Some citizens are peacefully protesting.

Some are breaking into places and looting.

Do I REALLY need to spell this out for you? :lol:
Who was looting last night that needed to be gassed?
Maybe they thought Al Jazeera were terrorists.
 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Young black guy here in Denver just got 3M for being abused in Denver Jail - not that rareFeds are coming in soon to take over department
Here in Minneapolis, I'd say 80% of the time I see a police officer dealing with a civilian, it is a black male. And I live in a very yuppy neighborhood. Can't tell me there isn't some kind of targetting there, intentional or not.
trenchant analysis

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Young black guy here in Denver just got 3M for being abused in Denver Jail - not that rareFeds are coming in soon to take over department
Here in Minneapolis, I'd say 80% of the time I see a police officer dealing with a civilian, it is a black male. And I live in a very yuppy neighborhood. Can't tell me there isn't some kind of targetting there, intentional or not.
trenchant analysis
Go ahead and keep living in the fantasy world version of America you've constructed for yourself. I don't really ever care to talk to you based on your past behavior.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Young black guy here in Denver just got 3M for being abused in Denver Jail - not that rare

Feds are coming in soon to take over department
Here in Minneapolis, I'd say 80% of the time I see a police officer dealing with a civilian, it is a black male. And I live in a very yuppy neighborhood. Can't tell me there isn't some kind of targetting there, intentional or not.
80% seems made up. Also, if it isn’t intentional, I don’t understand how it can be classified as targeting? You can’t accidently target a group.

Racist cops have been an issue for years. Why don’t we ever hear anything from black cops? Are they just considered Uncle Toms?

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Young black guy here in Denver just got 3M for being abused in Denver Jail - not that rare

Feds are coming in soon to take over department
Here in Minneapolis, I'd say 80% of the time I see a police officer dealing with a civilian, it is a black male. And I live in a very yuppy neighborhood. Can't tell me there isn't some kind of targetting there, intentional or not.
80% seems made up. Also, if it isn’t intentional, I don’t understand how it can be classified as targeting? You can’t accidently target a group.

Racist cops have been an issue for years. Why don’t we ever hear anything from black cops? Are they just considered Uncle Toms?
Look, I'm already throwing out anecdotal evidence, never presented this as a scientific study. Should I have kept a notebook and cataloged every police interaction I've seen in my neighborhood over the last 5 years?

You don't think someone can end up focusing on one group of people because of subconscious beliefs? I'm trying to say most police probably wouldn't admit to any amount of racism, but their actions say otherwise to an outside observer.

 
It is a shame that what a few bad policemen do will be projected as if this is happening in police forces everywhere. The type of sterotyping that is being done is the exact same stereotyping that they are fighting against. This is a rare occurance.
Young black guy here in Denver just got 3M for being abused in Denver Jail - not that rareFeds are coming in soon to take over department
Here in Minneapolis, I'd say 80% of the time I see a police officer dealing with a civilian, it is a black male. And I live in a very yuppy neighborhood. Can't tell me there isn't some kind of targetting there, intentional or not.
80% seems made up. Also, if it isnt intentional, I dont understand how it can be classified as targeting? You cant accidently target a group. Racist cops have been an issue for years. Why dont we ever hear anything from black cops? Are they just considered Uncle Toms?
Look, I'm already throwing out anecdotal evidence, never presented this as a scientific study. Should I have kept a notebook and cataloged every police interaction I've seen in my neighborhood over the last 5 years?

You don't think someone can end up focusing on one group of people because of subconscious beliefs? I'm trying to say most police probably wouldn't admit to any amount of racism, but their actions say otherwise to an outside observer.
Are you saying that most police are racist?

 
So the news in NO today:

Black female NOPD cop shot and killed someone during a traffic stop. It took over 2 days to report it.
We're they unarmed?
Haven't looked at the story yet but will later. It would not surprise me. NOPD loves to hide information and evidence, and under-report. I will provide an update.
Unarmed according to what I read.
http://www.wwltv.com/news/More-questions-than-answers-after-officer-involved-shooting-in-Algiers-271178821.html

 

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