Louisiana's 1964 Voter Literacy Test (1 Viewer)

[Prince Myshkin]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

It is also impossible to draw a line from circle 2 to circle 5 which goes above circle 4.

Seems easy enough to me

 

[Christo]

Once the Democratic Party forced out the bigots in the 1950s, they all went to the one place that would welcome them with open arms: the Republican Party.

You mean the bigots they don't like.

 

[Ursa M]

The southern Democrats were not forced out in the 50's, they were alive and well into the late 60's, which by that time they lost virtually everything they believed in and ceased being a force became Republicans.

Fixed for truth.

Not really. For instance the Gore's stayed Democrats. The fact is they lost their racist battles as Democrats.

Nothing like a good revisionist historian.

The Dixiecrats left and joined the Republican Party. Period.

 

[Apple Jack]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

It is also impossible to draw a line from circle 2 to circle 5 which goes above circle 4.

Seems easy enough to me

A "line" is straight. That's the point. Well, that was my point. I assumed that was his point.

 

[jon_mx]

The southern Democrats were not forced out in the 50's, they were alive and well into the late 60's, which by that time they lost virtually everything they believed in and ceased being a force became Republicans.

Fixed for truth.

Not really. For instance the Gore's stayed Democrats. The fact is they lost their racist battles as Democrats.

Nothing like a good revisionist historian. The Dixiecrats left and joined the Republican Party. Period.

Strom Thurman, yes. Others not so much. Big named southern democrats like Fulbright, Byrd, Gore, and Wallace retired as Democrats. The south became Republicans but mostly with new people like Newt. Your period is full of ####. You are the revisionist trying to hide and rationalize the racists position of the majority of the Democratic Party.

 

[jon_mx]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

It is also impossible to draw a line from circle 2 to circle 5 which goes above circle 4.

Seems easy enough to me

A "line" is straight. That's the point. Well, that was my point. I assumed that was his point.

Thus I quoted you. I did not think it was that difficult of a point to understand.

 

[MaxThreshold]

The southern Democrats were not forced out in the 50's, they were alive and well into the late 60's, which by that time they lost virtually everything they believed in and ceased being a force became Republicans.

Fixed for truth.

Not really. For instance the Gore's stayed Democrats. The fact is they lost their racist battles as Democrats.

Nothing like a good revisionist historian. The Dixiecrats left and joined the Republican Party. Period.

Strom Thurman, yes. Others not so much. Big named southern democrats like Fulbright, Byrd, Gore, and Wallace retired as Democrats. The south became Republicans but mostly with new people like Newt. Your period is full of ####. You are the revisionist trying to hide and rationalize the racists position of the majority of the Democratic Party.

Gotta' love revisionist history by the progressives. "Hey we weren't racist - they were just republicans in disguise". Does anyone in that party tell or at least acknowledge the truth?

 

[fatness]

jon and Max explaining history is like Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder describing a bowling tournament.

 

[Vike Me]

Southern Democrats were the worst.

Yep. And they were all forced to become Republicans in the '60s thanks to pressure from the real Democrats.

Not true. republicans believe in equal protection under the law and that was largely accomplished. Democrats just figured out they could buy the black vote. Southern Democrats were a much different animal.

The pre-1950s southern Republicans may have believed in equal protection, but those people were an extreme minority in the south. It was so bad for southern Republicans that they didn't even bother running candidates in most elections.

Your claim that equal protection was "largely accomplished" is a total fabrication, as the Republican party had almost zero influence in the south from 1870-1950.

Once the Democratic Party forced out the bigots in the 1950s, they all went to the one place that would welcome them with open arms: the Republican Party.

Your history sucks. The southern Democrats were not forced out in the 50's, they were alive and well into the late 60's, which by that time they lost virtually everything they believed in and ceased being a force.It puzzles me why Democrats don't embrace their racist history.

Wait, so now you guys are arguing about who sucked more 60 years ago? Newsflash it was both - you both sucked then, and you both suck worse now. In fact you are one in the same but seem to only want to argue about pointless bull#### like gay marriage and abortion.

 

[Rove!]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

Just a clever way to further deceive the blacks, IMO. Whitey assumed they knew what a circle was.

assumed it's worded that way to give the registrar leeway to arbitrarily say it's wrong

 

[Raider Nation]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

Just a clever way to further deceive the blacks, IMO. Whitey assumed they knew what a circle was.

assumed it's worded that way to give the registrar leeway to arbitrarily say it's wrong

[cue sarcastic retort by Ivan]

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The southern Democrats were not forced out in the 50's, they were alive and well into the late 60's, which by that time they lost virtually everything they believed in and ceased being a force became Republicans.

Fixed for truth.

Not really. For instance the Gore's stayed Democrats. The fact is they lost their racist battles as Democrats.

Nothing like a good revisionist historian.

The Dixiecrats left and joined the Republican Party. Period.

Well thankfully the Demos took race out of their politics and policy.

Right?

 

[fatness]

A longer more complete version of the test from the Tennessee government's website.

Typescript copy.

 

[fatness]

1963 Louisiana voter literacy test.

4. Registrar shall furnish applicant with ca?d (identified as Form 11), so appl icant can do the following:
A. Execute affidavit
B. Read and write a portion of the preamble to the United States Constitution from dictation by the Registrar
C. Take citizenship test for registration

"B" is pretty much wide open for abuse.

Apparently in 1963 there was a court decision that disallowed the type of test given in 1963.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Enjoying the folks in this thread who seem to think there's an answer key that goes with this test.

-QG

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

1963 Louisiana voter literacy test.

4. Registrar shall furnish applicant with ca?d (identified as Form 11), so appl icant can do the following:

A. Execute affidavit

B. Read and write a portion of the preamble to the United States Constitution from dictation by the Registrar

C. Take citizenship test for registration

"B" is pretty much wide open for abuse.

Apparently in 1963 there was a court decision that disallowed the type of test given in 1963.

One thing I find interesting about that case, if you look at page 374:

In 1897 LA had over 130,000 black voters (there were 164,000+ white voters). The LA Constitution of 1898 nearly wiped out all black registration, but it also knocked out 40,000 white voters, nearly a quarter fo the total.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

1963 Louisiana voter literacy test.

4. Registrar shall furnish applicant with ca?d (identified as Form 11), so appl icant can do the following:

A. Execute affidavit

B. Read and write a portion of the preamble to the United States Constitution from dictation by the Registrar

C. Take citizenship test for registration

"B" is pretty much wide open for abuse.

Apparently in 1963 there was a court decision that disallowed the type of test given in 1963.

On page 375 there is a note about a "Battle of Liberty Place."

This was a post Civil War, Reconstruction, armed pitched battle in New Orleans, which at the time had a black civil administration and police force, vs armed militia led by something called the White League.

A monument to that battle still stands in a very tucked away yet still very touristy section of the French Quarter, hundreds probably pass it every day without knowing what it refers to.

 

[fatness]

One thing I find interesting about that case, if you look at page 374:

One thing I find interesting is that you've brought up numerous tangents without saying what you think of the 1964 literacy test and its application.

 

[cstu]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

It is also impossible to draw a line from circle 2 to circle 5 which goes above circle 4.

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2 / 3 4 5

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[cstu]

The southern Democrats were not forced out in the 50's, they were alive and well into the late 60's, which by that time they lost virtually everything they believed in and ceased being a force became Republicans.

Fixed for truth.

Not really. For instance the Gore's stayed Democrats. The fact is they lost their racist battles as Democrats.

Nothing like a good revisionist historian.

The Dixiecrats left and joined the Republican Party. Period.

Well thankfully the Demos took race out of their politics and policy.

Right?

That's true, who's denying that the Democratic Party was racist back then?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The southern Democrats were not forced out in the 50's, they were alive and well into the late 60's, which by that time they lost virtually everything they believed in and ceased being a force became Republicans.

Fixed for truth.

Not really. For instance the Gore's stayed Democrats. The fact is they lost their racist battles as Democrats.

Nothing like a good revisionist historian.

The Dixiecrats left and joined the Republican Party. Period.

Well thankfully the Demos took race out of their politics and policy.

Right?

That's true, who's denying that the Democratic Party was racist back then?

Yes, that is true. The key is that we can now say that the Democratic Party has taken race out of their politics and policy.

That's great progress.

 

[Redwes25]

What is the answer to number 11?

I think I would cross out the number 1 to leave a value of zero, but the question is confusing at best. It does not say cross out the numbers (plural).

Just cross out a zero.

My eyes suck so I might be miscounting the zero's but it looks like crossing out one zero leave you with exactly 1 million which does not answer the question.

I see what you are saying. They are using "below" to say "beneath the sentence", rather than less in value than one million.

That didn't even occur to me. Interesting interpretation.

that is the engineer in me. I always read things as equations but I believe Apple Jack is 100% correct in that it meant "below the line" and not "< than 1,000,000"

I still would have failed this. Hell I think I had to guess on question 1 as I am still not sure exactly what they were asking.

Question 1 makes no sense.

 

[L5UT1ger]

What is the answer to number 11?

I think I would cross out the number 1 to leave a value of zero, but the question is confusing at best. It does not say cross out the numbers (plural).

Just cross out a zero.

My eyes suck so I might be miscounting the zero's but it looks like crossing out one zero leave you with exactly 1 million which does not answer the question.

I see what you are saying. They are using "below" to say "beneath the sentence", rather than less in value than one million.

That didn't even occur to me. Interesting interpretation.

that is the engineer in me. I always read things as equations but I believe Apple Jack is 100% correct in that it meant "below the line" and not "< than 1,000,000"

I still would have failed this. Hell I think I had to guess on question 1 as I am still not sure exactly what they were asking.

Question 1 makes no sense.

I'd circle the "1" given its the number of that sentence and it says number or letter. Regardless, im white so I pass.

Two flattering threads about Louisiana in one day. Awesome!

 

[Doug B]

One thing I find interesting is that you've brought up numerous tangents without saying what you think of the 1964 literacy test and its application.

You seriously think current Louisianians have to speak for that 1964 test now? As if it were in doubt what Louisianians in 2014 think about that kind of stuff? Seriously? C'mon, fatness.

 

[Doug B]

Also, the provenance of the test in the OP is in question. No one doubts the abject dehumanization of the Jim Crow era -- there was no need for Slate (and other outlets) to run with this particular example without disclaimers.

 

[cstu]

One thing I find interesting is that you've brought up numerous tangents without saying what you think of the 1964 literacy test and its application.

You seriously think current Louisianians have to speak for that 1964 test now? As if it were in doubt what Louisianians in 2014 think about that kind of stuff? Seriously? C'mon, fatness.

Exactly, it's like Republicans continuing to brag about being the "Party of Lincoln".

 

[Prince Myshkin]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

It is also impossible to draw a line from circle 2 to circle 5 which goes above circle 4.

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2 / 3 4 5

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see...wasn't that hard

 

[SacramentoBob]

I hope somebody advised these geniuses than a "line" cannot be "around" anything.

It is also impossible to draw a line from circle 2 to circle 5 which goes above circle 4.

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2 / 3 4 5

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Amoeba doing Louisiana's voter literacy test in 1964.

 

[fatness]

One thing I find interesting is that you've brought up numerous tangents without saying what you think of the 1964 literacy test and its application.

You seriously think current Louisianians have to speak for that 1964 test now? As if it were in doubt what Louisianians in 2014 think about that kind of stuff? Seriously? C'mon, fatness.

You speak for SaintsInDome? I wasn't aware, Mrs. Dome.

You seem upset. In the first circle below write the last letter of the first word beginning with “L.” It'll help you feel better.

O O O O O​

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

One thing I find interesting about that case, if you look at page 374:

One thing I find interesting is that you've brought up numerous tangents without saying what you think of the 1964 literacy test and its application.

Wait. You're asking me?

Those aren't tangents, that's the history provided in the case someone provided above.

The literacy test, it's beyond awful - it's evil and wrong on so many levels. - I could go further, but I would think that's enough.

 

[fatness]

I found a couple more.

1955 Mississippi literacy test

1965 Alabama literacy test

And some interesting history from Tennessee about various kinds of Jim Crow laws -- poll taxes, grandfather clauses, property tests, secret ballots. It's some pretty interesting reading.

 

[jon_mx]

jon and Max explaining history is like Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder describing a bowling tournament.

So I present factual examples which disproved a statement and being unable to respond this is the best you can do. Just exactly where was I wrong?

 

[QuizGuy66]

The point is these are the sorts of tactics that surely some folks would like to impose given the chance.

-QG