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Ok, I should just stop trying to predict what might click with the group and what won't.

Was it the prog lean- I see a Yes comment (the band), and I'm pretty sure Yo Mama's a Tool fan and might like the 10min epics as well.
I was going to say it sounded like Rush - but I know that can be an insult in these parts.
They aren't shy about bands like Genesis being at their core, especially Brann. I think they very much operate in the prog realm normally, they just don't have that many songs that are 10mins+. I can only think of 3 offhand, and 2 are on the playlist. (I am pretty sure I put the other in the prog playlist for GP4, so that's one reason Last Baron got the nod here).

I know I came in late to these, but is there a reason you dont do radiohead?
1. I know they are polarizing like Rush around here.

2. I did a separate 31 for Radiohead a bit ago before I knew these were going to be a thing (I'd be happy to link it for you) .

IF I do any Radiohead again, it would be tangentially like a Jonny or Thom 31.
Thought it was just me that's anti Radiohead?
 
I love it when one band gets it's name from another bands song. Just found out recently that Radiohead was taken from the song "Radio Head" on the Talking Heads album True Stories (1986).
 
Talking Heads
#31 Radio Head


First of 2 songs from 1986's True Stories. From Songfacts:
  • The band Radiohead took their name from this song. Originally, they were known as On A Friday.
So, you know, bona fides as an influence on other bands.

Baby your mind is a radio
Got a receiver inside my head
Baby I'm tuned to your wavelength
Lemme tell you what it says:

Transmitter!
Oh! Picking up something good
Hey, radio head!
The sound, of a brand-new world.

I love it when one band gets it's name from another bands song. Just found out recently that Radiohead was taken from the song "Radio Head" on the Talking Heads album True Stories (1986).
 
Talking Heads
#31 Radio Head


First of 2 songs from 1986's True Stories. From Songfacts:
  • The band Radiohead took their name from this song. Originally, they were known as On A Friday.
So, you know, bona fides as an influence on other bands.

Baby your mind is a radio
Got a receiver inside my head
Baby I'm tuned to your wavelength
Lemme tell you what it says:

Transmitter!
Oh! Picking up something good
Hey, radio head!
The sound, of a brand-new world.

I love it when one band gets it's name from another bands song. Just found out recently that Radiohead was taken from the song "Radio Head" on the Talking Heads album True Stories (1986).
Nah, that wasn't it.
 
I love it when one band gets it's name from another bands song. Just found out recently that Radiohead was taken from the song "Radio Head" on the Talking Heads album True Stories (1986).
Temple of the Dog got its name from a line in the song Man of Golden Words by Mother Love Bone.
Taylor Swift got her name from a short story written by Ringo Starr.
 
I love it when one band gets it's name from another bands song. Just found out recently that Radiohead was taken from the song "Radio Head" on the Talking Heads album True Stories (1986).
Temple of the Dog got its name from a line in the song Man of Golden Words by Mother Love Bone.
The short lived one hit wonder ‘80s band Steel Breeze (“You Don’t Want Me Anymore”) got its name from Pink Floyd’s “Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V)”.
 
Ok, I should just stop trying to predict what might click with the group and what won't.

Was it the prog lean- I see a Yes comment (the band), and I'm pretty sure Yo Mama's a Tool fan and might like the 10min epics as well.
I was going to say it sounded like Rush - but I know that can be an insult in these parts.
They aren't shy about bands like Genesis being at their core, especially Brann. I think they very much operate in the prog realm normally, they just don't have that many songs that are 10mins+. I can only think of 3 offhand, and 2 are on the playlist. (I am pretty sure I put the other in the prog playlist for GP4, so that's one reason Last Baron got the nod here).

I know I came in late to these, but is there a reason you dont do radiohead?
1. I know they are polarizing like Rush around here.

2. I did a separate 31 for Radiohead a bit ago before I knew these were going to be a thing (I'd be happy to link it for you) .

IF I do any Radiohead again, it would be tangentially like a Jonny or Thom 31.
Thought it was just me that's anti Radiohead?
Nope, I get the sentiment from several others as well. Maybe I am overestimating the feeling from the MAD31s, but it's there in the general FFA for sure.
 
I think Thoms personality and voice turns people off

Don't forget the existentially painful lyrics, Karma.

(I like Radiohead, though I've done a re-evaluation of them in my older years.)
:lol: Ok, there are other reasons than the ones I listed. I guess it's just correct to say Thom is the irritant for people and leave it at that, since he is the lyrics, vocals, and most of the "too good to be a rock star" attitude from the band.
 
Ok, I should just stop trying to predict what might click with the group and what won't.

Was it the prog lean- I see a Yes comment (the band), and I'm pretty sure Yo Mama's a Tool fan and might like the 10min epics as well.
Yeah, I have no problem with the long songs. Good stuff.
Well, since others are talking about their research, I have a few playlists ready for possible part 3. 0 growl Opeth is one, but I was hesitant because then we are firmly in prog territory and I wasn't sure again overall how that would hit with the majority listening.
I think that's just me. It takes me a lot longer since I'm listening to all the beats.
 
#14's PLAYLIST
#14 -
PrinceRamsay Hunt ExperienceWhen Doves Cry
Tanya DonellyplinkoNow They'll Sleep
King, 1995
Talking Headskupcho1Crosseyed and Painless
Sia FurlerScoresmanPretty Hurts (Beyonce)
Los LoboseephusAnselma
The Seldom SceneCharlie SteinerBaby Blue
Kid RocksnellmanHard Night for Sarah
Against Me!scorchyDelicate, Petite, and Other Things I'll Never Be
MastodonKarmaPolice The Hunter
Neko CaseMister CIAPeople Got A Lot Of Nerve
Faith No MoreJBBreakfastClubEverythings Ruined
black midiJuxtatarotThe Race Is About To Begin
Nina SimoneDon QuixoteStars, from The Montreux Years (Live)
Beastie BoysYo MamaEgg Man
Drive-By TruckersDr. OctopusRonnie and Neil
Jimmy Buffet-OZ-Distantly in love
The JamPip's InvitationStrange Town
RöyksoppJMLs secret identity14 - Ice Machine feat Susanne Sundfør
Nick Cave and the Bad SeedssalterifficInto my arms
CSNYjwbHelplessly Hoping
Roger ClyneMt. ManWest Texas Moon
David BermanThe Dreaded MarcoHow to Rent a Room
David BowieBinky the DoormatAll The Young Dudes
Pointer SistersMrs. RannousLove in Them There Hills

IncubusMAC_32When It Comes
John MellencamptuffnuttAin't Even Done With the Night

Sufjan Stevens Ilov80sAll the Trees of the Field Will Clap Their Hands
Mike ShinodaJust Win BabyGiven Up
Chris Cornell Raging Weasel Getaway Car
Josh HommetitusbrambleCaligulove
Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night SweatsAAABatteriesThe Future
Kim MitchellSullieKiller's Name
Thin LizzyzamboniChinatown
Collective SoulfalguyWhy, Pt. 2
Tears for FearsJohn Maddens LunchboxCall Me Mellow (Vocals Curt and Roland)
Cheap TrickFairWarningTonight It's You
John Prinelandrys hatThat's the Way That the World Goes Round

Ben FoldsHov34Jackson Cannery
Tom PettyZegras11Don't Do Me Like That
Scott Hutchison snevenelevenI Wish I Was Sober
The New PornographersNorthern VoiceWhiteout Conditions
John Lee HookerDrIan MalcolmLet's Go Out Tonight

Rainbow Sam Quentin Lost in Hollywood
Pyotr Ilyich TchaikovskyzazaleThe Nutcracker, Op. 71: Act II Tableau 3: Divertissement: d. Trepak - Russian Dance
 
Sia - chronological # 14 - Pretty Hurts - Beyonce

Scoresman rank - 12


The next Sia written song I chose is by a no-show last round, Beyonce. This one was passed around a bit too before Beyonce finally landed it. One thing I'm learning from this exercise is that pop songs are apparently written and then passed around by different artists a number of times before finally getting recorded. This one is no different.

It was initially written with Katy Perry in mind, but Perry never replied to Sia's email (lol true story), so it was then given to Rihanna. Beyonce ended up with it after Rihanna's management put the song on hold and failed to pay the song's fee, eventually recording "Diamonds" instead. Katy Perry eventually heard Beyonce's version and texted Sia that she was hurt Sia never sent her the song. Sia then responded saying "Check your email."

Beyoncé later said in an interview, "The second I heard the song, I'm like, 'I have to sing this song, I don't care how hard I have to fight for this song, this is my song'!" Pretty Hurts was released as the third single from her eponymous fifth studio album.
 
Selected favorites from the #15s. Happening after the 14s have been released, but it’s been quite the week. Partially because of that (and part because I seem to hit this roughly every five playlists), unshuffled this time. Also there’s a heavier lean towards the new-to-me songs just because I can.


Familiar songs:
4+20 - CSNY
Dirty Work - The Pointer Sisters
Maybe - Collective Soul
Difficult to Cure - Rainbow. I only had room for one 10+ minute song on this list. Hopefully that doesn’t make me terrible. ;)

New discoveries:
Making Light - Tanya Donelly
Working on a Building -The Seldom Scene
Because of the Shame - Against Me!
This Tornado Loves You - Neko Case
Daylight - Drive-by Truckers
Expedition Sailor - Kim Mitchell
 
14. Nina Simone, Stars (from Live at Montreux (1976 performance)
YouTube Spotify

People lust for fame
Like athletes in a game
They break their collarbones
And come up swinging
Some of them are crowned
Some of them are downed
Some are lost and never found
But most have seen it all
They live their lives
In sad cafés and music halls
And they always have a story


Written and first recorded by Janis Ian (with again some of Nina Simone’s lyrical twists). Anyone who has seen the “What Happened, Miss Simone?” documentary should be familiar with this one. In the documentary, it starts off with Nina Simone yelling at someone in the audience to sit down (with her classical upbringing, Nina Simone did not tolerate that). It may also be familiar to fans of Bojack Horseman; this song provides the background music for the season 3 ending where Bojack lets go of the wheel.

The performance itself is pretty breathtaking — one of Nina Simone’s most passionate recorded live performances. She loses herself in the song and seemingly adlibs some lyrics, but sticks the hell out of it anyway. This performance was in 1976. By this point, she has left the United States, divorced her husband, sold her house due to financial troubles, spent the previous few years living in Barbados and Liberia, and had just moved to Switzerland. Her personal experience adds some extra punch to the emotions in Nina Simone’s singing here.

If you watch one on YouTube over Spotify, this could be one to pick. If her voice does not convey the emotion, her eyes here certainly will. The YouTube link also includes the medley with “Feelings.” She provides depth to an otherwise thin song (her piano at 10 minutes into the video and then the anger in her voice when she adds lines like “I wish I’ve never lived this long” are again just her letting everything out — when she asks the audience to sing along, if I was in the crowd, I’m not sure if I’d be terrified or mesmerized).
 
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Beastie Boys #14 - Egg Man
Album - Paul's Boutique (1989)

Peacockin'
Ad-Rock: 0, MCA: 1, Mike D: 0, Beastie Boys: 0, Greater NYC: 0

Name Rockin'
Egg Man, Humpty Dumpty, The Rastaman, Dolemite, Haze, Yosemite Sam

Rhyme Squawkin'
Saw the convertible driving by
I loaded up the slingshot, let one fly
He went for his to find he didn't have one
Put him in check, correct, with my egg gun


Yo Mama Talkin'
I love this song, so much fun. I’ve taken this song in multiple drafts here. I was wondering why I didn’t rank it higher on my list then looked ahead and realized why. My list is stacked with goodness.

I mentioned at the beginning that one of my songs referenced lyrics from one of their early punk songs Egg Raid on Mojo. This is that song.
 
David Bowie - All The Young Dudes

All The Young Dudes - Mott the Hoople

Though I probably like the Mott the Hoople version better - Bowie puts his own twist on his own tune that makes it so engaging. Most of you know that Bowie wrote this song and gave it to Mott the Hoople as they were struggling and thinking about calling it quits. Did you know that they had turned down "Suffragette City' prior to that??

Regarded as an anthem of glam rock, the song has received acclaim and was a commercial success. In 2021, Rolling Stone ranked "All the Young Dudes" number 166 in its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. It is also one of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll.

Background and recording[edit]​

By 1972, Mott the Hoople were on the verge of splitting up. Having been together for three years, the band had released four well-received albums and developed a small loyal following but had failed to garner commercial success. An appearance on the BBC television programme Top of the Pops in late 1971 was not enough to push their recent single "Midnight Lady" onto the charts.[1][2] The band had also finished a tour which left them financially unstable.[3]

On 4 February 1972,[2] David Bowie sent the band a demo of "Suffragette City" in hopes they would record it. The band played it and believed it did not fit their style. Bassist Pete Watts contacted Bowie in late March 1972 and politely rejected it, stating the band broke up. Upon learning this, Bowie contacted Watts back two hours later and said, "I've written a song for you since we spoke, which could be great."[1][2] Bowie had just finished recording two albums consecutively and had another single, "John, I'm Only Dancing", prepared for release, so he was eager to write for other artists.[3] While Bowie's manager Tony Defries worked on signing the band with CBS Records,[3] Bowie met with Watts a few days later and played "All the Young Dudes" on acoustic guitar. Watts recalled: "He hadn't got all the words but the song just blew me away, especially when he hit the chorus."[1] Watts then introduced Bowie to the rest of the band at an office located at Regent Street in London, where Bowie sat cross-legged on the floor and played the band the song.[2][4]

The band were ecstatic. Ian Hunter recalled: "He just played it on an acoustic guitar. I knew straight away it was a hit. There were chills going down my spine. It's only happened to me a few times in my life, when you know that this is a biggie".[5] Drummer Dale Griffin said: "We couldn't believe it. In the office at Regent Street he's strumming it on his guitar and I'm thinking, he wants to give us that? He must be crazy! We broke our necks to say yes! You couldn't fail to see it was a great song."[6] After playing it, Bowie told them he would produce the track for release as a single while his manager, Tony Defries, informed them he would become their manager. Knowing the track would be a hit, the band agreed to not break up.[2]


Release and aftermath[edit]​

"All the Young Dudes" was released by CBS Records in the UK on 28 July 1972, with the catalogue number CBS 8271.[3] It was a commercial success, peaking at No. 3 on the UK Singles Chart,[18] No. 37 on the US Billboard Hot 100 (in November),[19] and No. 31 in Canada (also in November). Mott the Hoople titled their fifth album after the song, which was produced by Bowie and recorded at Trident Studios in London during the summer of 1972.[11] Throughout autumn 1972, the band joined Bowie and the Spiders from Mars on tour in the US. On 29 November, Bowie boosted their profile by introducing them on stage, including at the Tower near Philadelphia and performed the song with Hunter; this performance was released on the 1998 compilation album All the Way from Stockholm to Philadelphia.[11]

The original Mott the Hoople release had to be changed lyrically in order that it might be played on UK radio and television. The line in the second verse: "Wendy's stealing clothes from Marks and Sparks" was a reference to UK retailer Marks & Spencer, also known by that colloquialism. As such, air play of the song in its original form would have breached broadcasting regulations relating to advertising in force at the time. The line was replaced with: "Wendy's stealing clothes from unlocked cars".[11]

Bowie took to performing "All the Young Dudes" on his Ziggy Stardust Tour, and a medley version appears on the album Ziggy Stardust – The Motion Picture, the live recording of the last Ziggy show that was finally released officially in 1983. Bowie's first released version of the song was in 1974 on David Live. Bowie had also offered "Drive-In Saturday" to Mott the Hoople following "All the Young Dudes", but they turned down this offer, at least partially owing to the then-current success of their own "Honaloochie Boogie".[11] According to an anecdote by Bowie on the VH1 Storytellers (2009) album (track 7), his annoyance at the rejection prompted Bowie to shave his eyebrows while in Florida.

 
Röyksopp
14 - Ice Machine feat Susanne Sundfør

Year - 2013
Appears on - Late Night Tales - Röyksopp
Vocalist - Susanne Sundfør
Key Lyric -I'll ring you on the telephone silently
Like blood, like the wine in the darkroom scene
The darkroom scene, darkroom scene

Notes
1- This is a Depeche Mode song written by Vince Clarke. It was the B-Side to their debut single Dreaming of Me and not included on their Debut LP Speak and Spell

2-Norways long running music magazine show Lydverket was finishing up and Röyksopp were approached to contribute. They were paired with Susanne Sundfør to work on a song. Both agreed on this song as a contribution

3- The session also resulted in an unexpected brand new song we will see later that was an amazing collaboration out of nothing. The lyrical content of this track is obvious once you know it, but it is disguised well.

4- The Late Night Tales session featured a lot of the bands favorite tracks like Music by F.R. David, Little River Band performing Light of Day, Blade Runner Blues by Vangelis, XTC with Somnabulist and an amazing Til I Gain Control by Elisabeth Frasers This Mortal Coil. Even Benedict Cumberbatch (Sherlock Holmes/Doctor Strange) has a spoken word track. Its a really good album and only features 2 Röyksopp tracks. This one and one to come.

Running Vocal Count
Röyksopp - 6
Robyn - 4
Karin Dreijer - 2
Susanne Sundfør - 2
Gunhild Ramsay Kovacs - 1
Alison Goldfrapp - 1
Jamie Irrepressible - 1
Karen Harding - 1
Instrumental - 3

Where to find
Melody A.M - 0
The Understanding - 1
Röyksopp’s Night Out - 1
Back to Mine Series - 1
Junior - 2
Senior - 1
Late Night Tales Series - 1
Do It Again EP - 2
The Inevitable End - 2
Profound Mysteries I - 0
Profound Mysteries II - 1
Profound Mysteries III - 4
Other/Non Album Songs - 2

Year
1999 - 0
2001 - 0
2002 - 1
2005 - 1
2006 - 1
2007 - 1
2008 - 0
2009 - 2
2010 - 1
2013 - 1
2014 - 4
2016 - 1
2022 - 5

Next up a song heavily influenced by black 70s music, particularly disco. A great vocal too.
 
Talking Heads
#14 Crosseyed and Painless

Crosseyed and Painless
is my 4th song from Remain in Light (and I'm not done with that yet; not by a long shot). From Pitchfork's retrospective review:
Although Remain in Light has become an acknowledged classic, it retains a feeling of unfamiliarity. It is tempting to attribute this quality to Byrne’s obtuse lyrics, but the album’s instrumental arrangements also constitute a break with rock’s conventional forms. Weymouth’s bassline on “Crosseyed and Painless” crowds staccato bursts of notes into the first half of each measure, leaving the second half empty in a way that defines the percussion pattern. This technique, essential to funk, diverges from rock’s standard practice of using the bass to keep time.

Songfacts illuminates how prescient Talking Heads were w/r/t "facts"
Long before the concept of "alternative facts" entered the lexicon, Talking Heads explored the idea on "Crosseyed And Painless," which is written from the perspective of a guy losing his mind, not sure what is real:

Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to


For those of you unfamiliar with the song, yes, that is David Byrne rapping (in 1980).
According to drummer Chris Frantz, David Byrne was struggling with the bridge section that starts with the "facts are simple" line. He needed to get a lot of words in short space, so Frantz suggested he try rap, which was novel at the time. Byrne gave it a try and nailed it on the first take.
 
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14.
Ain't Even Done with the Night- John Mellencamp
from Nothin' Matters and What if it Did Album


Our only selection from John's 4th album(1980). This song falls smack in the middle of the "John Cougar" years. It became his 1st top 20 hit... peaking at #17 on the Billboard charts. This was Mellencamp’s attempt to write a soul song. He told Billboard magazine in 2001: “I wanted to write something that was soulful and had an R&B feel to it, and being a young guy I thought we should get Mr. Stax Soul himself, Steve Cropper, to produce the record. That song even has a drum part we lifted straight off an old Motown record.”

From the first few beats to the opening line" Well our hearts beat like thunder, I don't know why they dont explode" this one just sucks me in. This one is so good I can forgive the cheesy sax solo... plus Im just a sucker for songs that have claps in them
 
#14 West Texas Moon (off Honky Tonk Union, 1999)

Baby don't cry cause you knew I'd have to fly
I can't kiss those wide open spaces, goodbye


(Youtube Version) West Texas Moon
(Live Version) Roger Clyne & The Peacemakers "West Texas Moon"

Why I chose this:

This one’s a fairly straight-forward rocker. Perhaps it’s just the timing, but it feels like a holdover from The Refreshments days. Including my #13. But I get ahead of myself.
Clyne hasn’t said much (that I’ve found) about this song, but then again, a lot of it speaks for itself. The pursuit of a woman that’s asking more than the narrator’s willing to put up with, so he head back out on the road. Probably there’s a bit more to it, but to repeat myself a little: a simple but fun and enjoyable song.
 
Helplessly Hoping

Fairly middle-of-the-road CSN song off the first album. Not a radio hit but not a deep cut either. One aspect I really like about this one is it highlights their individual-yet-grouped harmonies better than many of their other songs. On a decent speaker setup, it's pretty mesmerizing if you're trying to selectively listen to each guy.
 
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14.
Ain't Even Done with the Night- John Mellencamp
from Nothin' Matters and What if it Did Album


Our only selection from John's 4th album(1980). This song falls smack in the middle of the "John Cougar" years. It became his 1st top 20 hit... peaking at #17 on the Billboard charts. This was Mellencamp’s attempt to write a soul song. He told Billboard magazine in 2001: “I wanted to write something that was soulful and had an R&B feel to it, and being a young guy I thought we should get Mr. Stax Soul himself, Steve Cropper, to produce the record. That song even has a drum part we lifted straight off an old Motown record.”

From the first few beats to the opening line" Well our hearts beat like thunder, I don't know why they dont explode" this one just sucks me in. This one is so good I can forgive the cheesy sax solo... plus Im just a sucker for songs that have claps in them

I know it was a top-20 hit, but this song is so good you would think it would've put him more on the map.
 
The Beatles - Tears for Fears
#14 - Call Me Mellow

Appears - Everybody Loves a Happy Ending
Year - 2004
UK Highest Chart Position - Promo Only release
US Highest Chart Position - Promo Only release
Key Lyric - But then she knows it's like a curse
To find our chosen roles reversed
To unify my universe
To call me mellow

Notes
1- This whole album was a Beatles tribute but this is easily the best and maybe most obvious

2- The La’s should have sued as its VERY similar to There She Goes, but then again they were copying the Beatles as well. Such is the music scene

3- We do say farewell to the Everybody Loves a Happy Ending LP now. It was so much better than I expected but it wears its influences way too obviously on its sleeve.

4- One more track before we get into a reasonably obvious top 12, bar the two new songs and their debut single.

Where to find
The Hurting - 3
Songs from the Big Chair - 1
The Seeds of Love - 0
Elemental - 1
Raoul and the Kings of Spain - 1
Everybody Loves a Happy Ending - 5
Ready Boy and Girls - 1
The Tipping Point - 2
Greatest Hits only - 0
B- Sides - Other/Non Album Songs - 4

Year
1981 - 1
1982 - 0
1983 - 5
1984 - 0
1985 - 0
1986 - 1
1989 - 0
1993 - 1
1995 - 2
2004 - 5
2014 - 1
2017 - 0
2021 - 0
2022 - 2

Next up, we play perhaps my most played track of this exercise. It’s a great song, but is it really Tears for Fears? Great filmclip too
 
Selected favorites from the #14s. Yep, I’m back at it again! Back to shuffling. Finally got caught up with all of the great music thanks to a day off!


Familiar songs:
Russian Dance - Tchaikovsky
When Doves Cry - Prince
All the Young Dudes - David Bowie
Egg Man - Beastie Boys
Into My Arms - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Might have been my favorite of this round. Tough call, certainly.

New discoveries:
Distantly in Love - Jimmy Buffett. Or at least I don’t remember it, if I’ve heard it before.
Let’s Go Out Tonight - John Lee Hooker
I Wish I Was Sober - Frightened Rabbit/Scott Hutchison
The Hunter - Mastodon
Hard Night For Sarah - Kid Rock

Shuffle Adventures
Los Lobos, Those Crooked Vultures (/Josh Homme) and Neko Case made for a fun, enjoyable trio. Well, sort of a 'trio', since there was this weird Roger Clyne group between the first and second song ;)
 

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