Man of Steel (2 Viewers)

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I feel like we're not going to get the nerdy clark kent alter ego.

 

[Brony]

Feels like they are trying too hard.I'll be there hoping for better.

I thought it was too short. My popcorn was still popping in the microwave by the time that clip was done.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

who is the guy in the water -- superman or zod?

 

[jdoggydogg]

I just don't think Hollywood is capable of making a good Superman movie. I wait until it hits the red box and maybe then I'll spend $1.29 on it.

I think Snyder is going to nail Superman.

 

[jdoggydogg]

There's a Man of Steel in my pants.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I'm having a hard time containing my enthusiasm for this movie.

I think it's going to rock.

 

[ScottNorwood]

who is the guy in the water -- superman or zod?

Gotta be Aquaman, no?

 

[RBM]

I just don't think Hollywood is capable of making a good Superman movie. I wait until it hits the red box and maybe then I'll spend $1.29 on it.

I think Snyder is going to nail Superman.

 

[RBM]

There's a Man of Steel in my pants.

 

[HellToupee]

I'm having a hard time containing my enthusiasm for this movie. I think it's going to rock.

after seeing the trailer I'm all in over this

 

[Todem]

Wow. Really pumped for this. Superman is my favorite super hero. I saw Superman in 1978 when I was 8 years old and was in total awe. Superman II was even better.

Then it went to hell.

I can't wait to see this.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Very nice.

And yet nothing of that clip says "Superman".

They just applied the franchise to lot of other story and-or movie stylizations.

Looks like it will be very good though - that trailer is damn good.

 

[Dentist]

i think i like the idea of NOLANizing Superman

I've never thought superman/clark kent was as intriguing of a character as a Peter Parker or Bruce Wayne, but the angle they are taking looks interesting.

i've never really read his comics though either.... nor did i watch smallville

 

[jdoggydogg]

I'm having a hard time containing my enthusiasm for this movie. I think it's going to rock.

after seeing the trailer I'm all in over this

 

[NCCommish]

i think i like the idea of NOLANizing SupermanI've never thought superman/clark kent was as intriguing of a character as a Peter Parker or Bruce Wayne, but the angle they are taking looks interesting.i've never really read his comics though either.... nor did i watch smallville

I have never been much of a Superman fan but Smallville was pretty good. It brought a lot more humanity to the character I thought. I really thought they should have taken that cast to a movie. They wouldn't have needed to redo the origin again and they had the best Lex Luthor in a long time I thought. As for the clip I like darkening it up a bit but we'll have to see where they take it.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

 

[Dentist]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Really the '70's Superman films (at least 1 and 2) were fairly well done given the technology they had at the time and the mood of the era.I did think they made him overcompensate a bit to the stupid/bumbling side as clark kent even if superman isn't as known for his intelligence like Reed Richards or Peter Parker.I don't like them using the office girl as lois lane.. to me that's a horrible casting choice... lois has to have dark hair... why does that office chick get so many major parts right now? She's pleasant but not "hot" and she's a decent actor, but not fantastic by any means... just odd.At any rate... i agree he can't be brooding because he didn't witness his parents die in cold blood like Bruce, nor feel personally responsible for his caretaker's death like Peter Parker

 

[shadyridr]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Really the '70's Superman films (at least 1 and 2) were fairly well done given the technology they had at the time and the mood of the era.I did think they made him overcompensate a bit to the stupid/bumbling side as clark kent even if superman isn't as known for his intelligence like Reed Richards or Peter Parker.

I don't like them using the office girl as lois lane.. to me that's a horrible casting choice... lois has to have dark hair... why does that office chick get so many major parts right now? She's pleasant but not "hot" and she's a decent actor, but not fantastic by any means... just odd.

At any rate... i agree he can't be brooding because he didn't witness his parents die in cold blood like Bruce, nor feel personally responsible for his caretaker's death like Peter Parker

Amy Adams appeared in like one episode of The Office

 

[NCCommish]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Really the '70's Superman films (at least 1 and 2) were fairly well done given the technology they had at the time and the mood of the era.I did think they made him overcompensate a bit to the stupid/bumbling side as clark kent even if superman isn't as known for his intelligence like Reed Richards or Peter Parker.

I don't like them using the office girl as lois lane.. to me that's a horrible casting choice... lois has to have dark hair... why does that office chick get so many major parts right now? She's pleasant but not "hot" and she's a decent actor, but not fantastic by any means... just odd.

At any rate... i agree he can't be brooding because he didn't witness his parents die in cold blood like Bruce, nor feel personally responsible for his caretaker's death like Peter Parker

Amy Adams appeared in like one episode of The Office

Actually it was 3. She was also on Smallville for an episode. And since 2011 she has been in or is going to be in 10 movies. I don't understand how she got to be so hot a property all of the sudden.

 

[shadyridr]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Really the '70's Superman films (at least 1 and 2) were fairly well done given the technology they had at the time and the mood of the era.I did think they made him overcompensate a bit to the stupid/bumbling side as clark kent even if superman isn't as known for his intelligence like Reed Richards or Peter Parker.

I don't like them using the office girl as lois lane.. to me that's a horrible casting choice... lois has to have dark hair... why does that office chick get so many major parts right now? She's pleasant but not "hot" and she's a decent actor, but not fantastic by any means... just odd.

At any rate... i agree he can't be brooding because he didn't witness his parents die in cold blood like Bruce, nor feel personally responsible for his caretaker's death like Peter Parker

Amy Adams appeared in like one episode of The Office

Actually it was 3. She was also on Smallville for an episode. And since 2011 she has been in or is going to be in 10 movies. I don't understand how she got to be so hot a property all of the sudden.

ok but I think Dentist thought Lois Lane was being played by Jenna Fischer

 

[Dentist]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Really the '70's Superman films (at least 1 and 2) were fairly well done given the technology they had at the time and the mood of the era.I did think they made him overcompensate a bit to the stupid/bumbling side as clark kent even if superman isn't as known for his intelligence like Reed Richards or Peter Parker.

I don't like them using the office girl as lois lane.. to me that's a horrible casting choice... lois has to have dark hair... why does that office chick get so many major parts right now? She's pleasant but not "hot" and she's a decent actor, but not fantastic by any means... just odd.

At any rate... i agree he can't be brooding because he didn't witness his parents die in cold blood like Bruce, nor feel personally responsible for his caretaker's death like Peter Parker

Amy Adams appeared in like one episode of The Office

Actually it was 3. She was also on Smallville for an episode. And since 2011 she has been in or is going to be in 10 movies. I don't understand how she got to be so hot a property all of the sudden.

ok but I think Dentist thought Lois Lane was being played by Jenna Fischer

yeah, sorry i get those 2 confused. my mistake i take it all back!

having said that, i dislike amy adams being lois lane unless she darkens her hair, which maybe she will.

 

[NCCommish]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Really the '70's Superman films (at least 1 and 2) were fairly well done given the technology they had at the time and the mood of the era.I did think they made him overcompensate a bit to the stupid/bumbling side as clark kent even if superman isn't as known for his intelligence like Reed Richards or Peter Parker.

I don't like them using the office girl as lois lane.. to me that's a horrible casting choice... lois has to have dark hair... why does that office chick get so many major parts right now? She's pleasant but not "hot" and she's a decent actor, but not fantastic by any means... just odd.

At any rate... i agree he can't be brooding because he didn't witness his parents die in cold blood like Bruce, nor feel personally responsible for his caretaker's death like Peter Parker

Amy Adams appeared in like one episode of The Office

Actually it was 3. She was also on Smallville for an episode. And since 2011 she has been in or is going to be in 10 movies. I don't understand how she got to be so hot a property all of the sudden.

ok but I think Dentist thought Lois Lane was being played by Jenna Fischer

yeah, sorry i get those 2 confused. my mistake i take it all back!

having said that, i dislike amy adams being lois lane unless she darkens her hair, which maybe she will.

Nope. Deliberately didn't. She said she didn't want to play someone else playing Lois, pretty obviously referring to Margot Kidder. Which of course is meaningless because the character was drawn with dark hair and as I recall even in the first TV shows Lois had dark hair. It is kind of like having a blond Superman.

 

[Socrates11]

"Should I have just let them die?"

"Maybe"

#### just got real.

And did I see him kneel before Zod?

:giggity:

 

[B-Deep]

"Should I have just let them die?""Maybe"#### just got real.And did I see him kneel before Zod?:giggity:

snoochie poochies!

 

[B-Deep]

what an crock!

Michael Shannon won’t say “Kneel before Zod” in Man Of Steel

In an interview with VH1 (via SuperheroHype), Shannon was asked about the line, and admitted, “I don’t say that in the movie.”

The three word put-down was made famous by Terence Stamp’s incarnation of the supervillain in Superman II.

Perhaps it’s a good idea that Shannon won’t be impinging on Stamp’s turf, as that piece of dialogue has become so deeply associated with that film.

It has also become the subject of much parody over the years, so it's possible the omission is a statement of intent - will Shannon’s Zod lack the grandstanding, scenery-chewing pomp of the comic-book movie villains of old?

Man Of Steel is directed by Zack Snyder, and stars Henry Cavill, Amy Adams and Kevin Costner, and it opens in the UK on 14 June 2013.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Although, here you have an orphan that has probably felt like an outcast and a weirdo most of his life. That pretty dramatic material.

 

[Chaka]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Although, here you have an orphan that has probably felt like an outcast and a weirdo most of his life. That pretty dramatic material.

True but he has always been portrayed as being far above such concerns.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Although, here you have an orphan that has probably felt like an outcast and a weirdo most of his life. That pretty dramatic material.

True but he has always been portrayed as being far above such concerns.

I know what you're saying. But it begs the question: in 2012, is it archaic to portray a hero without internal flaws and angst? I say yes.

 

[B-Deep]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Although, here you have an orphan that has probably felt like an outcast and a weirdo most of his life. That pretty dramatic material.

True but he has always been portrayed as being far above such concerns.

I know what you're saying. But it begs the question: in 2012, is it archaic to portray a hero without internal flaws and angst? I say yes.

that's what makes superman movies toughhe cannot just be batman who can fly, superman is the optimist, the boy scoutand that makes kind of crappy movies

 

[Warrior]

Are you guys seriously stressing over whether or not Lois Lane's hair is dark enough?

 

[NCCommish]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Although, here you have an orphan that has probably felt like an outcast and a weirdo most of his life. That pretty dramatic material.

True but he has always been portrayed as being far above such concerns.

I know what you're saying. But it begs the question: in 2012, is it archaic to portray a hero without internal flaws and angst? I say yes.

And the portrayal of that "humanity" was part of what made Smallville work. He occasionally was petty or jealous or angry. Often at odds with what seemed to be his destiny and how it negatively affected his own wishes and desires. To me it's what always made Marvel more interesting than DC. The guy inside the suit.

 

[B-Deep]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

Agreed.

 

[NCCommish]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

See to me this is wrong. There has to be some part of Superman that just wants to be a guy. Joe Six-Pack. A wife, some kids, a dog and the white picket fence. And that part of him has to some time be very near the surface. If not then he is truly alien in every way and has little, to nothing, in common with the people he has sworn to protect.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I like the idea of more depth and an introspective superman, but he can't be brooding like batman. That's just not superman.

Although, here you have an orphan that has probably felt like an outcast and a weirdo most of his life. That pretty dramatic material.

True but he has always been portrayed as being far above such concerns.

I know what you're saying. But it begs the question: in 2012, is it archaic to portray a hero without internal flaws and angst? I say yes.

And the portrayal of that "humanity" was part of what made Smallville work. He occasionally was petty or jealous or angry. Often at odds with what seemed to be his destiny and how it negatively affected his own wishes and desires. To me it's what always made Marvel more interesting than DC. The guy inside the suit.

 

[jdoggydogg]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier's draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman's angst is not that he doesn't want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it's that he can't do it all; he can't do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

Just the mention of Kevin Smith and comics makes me want to post this again:Tim Burton on Kevin Smith (after Smith jokingly accused Burton of stealing the ending of Planet of the Apes from a Smith comic book):

"Anyone who knows me knows I would never read a comic book. And I would especially never read anything created by Kevin Smith."

Kevin Smith on Tim Burton (in response to "I would never read a comic book"):

"Which, to me, explains ####ing Batman."

 

[B-Deep]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

See to me this is wrong. There has to be some part of Superman that just wants to be a guy. Joe Six-Pack. A wife, some kids, a dog and the white picket fence. And that part of him has to some time be very near the surface. If not then he is truly alien in every way and has little, to nothing, in common with the people he has sworn to protect.

well there's some part of me that wants to be a monkeybut i am closer to a monkey than superman is to a human, i am sure the thought crossed his mind, but it is not a major part of who he is he embraces being a hero and wants to save everyoneif you delve into "why me" he becomes like batman, which may make for an ok movie, but it is not very superman

 

[B-Deep]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier's draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman's angst is not that he doesn't want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it's that he can't do it all; he can't do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

Just the mention of Kevin Smith and comics makes me want to post this again:Tim Burton on Kevin Smith (after Smith jokingly accused Burton of stealing the ending of Planet of the Apes from a Smith comic book):

"Anyone who knows me knows I would never read a comic book. And I would especially never read anything created by Kevin Smith."

Kevin Smith on Tim Burton (in response to "I would never read a comic book"):

"Which, to me, explains ####ing Batman."

lolit makes me think

"giant spider"

 

[jdoggydogg]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier's draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman's angst is not that he doesn't want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it's that he can't do it all; he can't do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

Just the mention of Kevin Smith and comics makes me want to post this again:Tim Burton on Kevin Smith (after Smith jokingly accused Burton of stealing the ending of Planet of the Apes from a Smith comic book):

"Anyone who knows me knows I would never read a comic book. And I would especially never read anything created by Kevin Smith."

Kevin Smith on Tim Burton (in response to "I would never read a comic book"):

"Which, to me, explains ####ing Batman."

lolit makes me think

"giant spider"

I don't know the reference. Is that from Planet of the Apes or Batman?

 

[B-Deep]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier's draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman's angst is not that he doesn't want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it's that he can't do it all; he can't do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

Just the mention of Kevin Smith and comics makes me want to post this again:Tim Burton on Kevin Smith (after Smith jokingly accused Burton of stealing the ending of Planet of the Apes from a Smith comic book):

"Anyone who knows me knows I would never read a comic book. And I would especially never read anything created by Kevin Smith."

Kevin Smith on Tim Burton (in response to "I would never read a comic book"):

"Which, to me, explains ####ing Batman."

lolit makes me think

"giant spider"

I don't know the reference. Is that from Planet of the Apes or Batman?

kind of long
Smith talking about superman and tim burton

some questionable language in there

 

[Chaka]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

See to me this is wrong. There has to be some part of Superman that just wants to be a guy. Joe Six-Pack. A wife, some kids, a dog and the white picket fence. And that part of him has to some time be very near the surface. If not then he is truly alien in every way and has little, to nothing, in common with the people he has sworn to protect.

Even when he became human in Superman II he quickly reconciled the fact that it just could never be and moved on without hesitation or, seemingly any regret. He is always about the greater good.

 

[GreenbayBuckeye]

Are you guys seriously stressing over whether or not Lois Lane's hair is dark enough?

I think Amy Adams is a good choice, after all it's a reboot. She's probably an upgrade over Margot Kidder, just as Emma Stone was an upgrade over Kirsten Dunst in the Spiderman reboot.

 

[NCCommish]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

See to me this is wrong. There has to be some part of Superman that just wants to be a guy. Joe Six-Pack. A wife, some kids, a dog and the white picket fence. And that part of him has to some time be very near the surface. If not then he is truly alien in every way and has little, to nothing, in common with the people he has sworn to protect.

well there's some part of me that wants to be a monkeybut i am closer to a monkey than superman is to a human, i am sure the thought crossed his mind, but it is not a major part of who he is he embraces being a hero and wants to save everyoneif you delve into "why me" he becomes like batman, which may make for an ok movie, but it is not very superman

As set up he is a secular god. Unstoppable and unfathomable for normal humans. That is a great two dimensional character for a two dimensional story but it holds little interest for me. And we have seen he has other motivations. He has unrequited love for Lois but he is never jealous? He is never angry about his inability to explore that relationship? Never feels isolated by his power? Boring.

 

[NCCommish]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

See to me this is wrong. There has to be some part of Superman that just wants to be a guy. Joe Six-Pack. A wife, some kids, a dog and the white picket fence. And that part of him has to some time be very near the surface. If not then he is truly alien in every way and has little, to nothing, in common with the people he has sworn to protect.

Even when he became human in Superman II he quickly reconciled the fact that it just could never be and moved on without hesitation or, seemingly any regret. He is always about the greater good.

Again boring. In the end we know how the story goes, there is no dramatic tension. He will always be an all powerful boy scout. Now there is nothing wrong with being a boy scout per se but it makes for pretty drab story telling.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier’s draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman’s angst is not that he doesn’t want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it’s that he can’t do it all; he can’t do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

See to me this is wrong. There has to be some part of Superman that just wants to be a guy. Joe Six-Pack. A wife, some kids, a dog and the white picket fence. And that part of him has to some time be very near the surface. If not then he is truly alien in every way and has little, to nothing, in common with the people he has sworn to protect.

well there's some part of me that wants to be a monkeybut i am closer to a monkey than superman is to a human, i am sure the thought crossed his mind, but it is not a major part of who he is he embraces being a hero and wants to save everyoneif you delve into "why me" he becomes like batman, which may make for an ok movie, but it is not very superman

As set up he is a secular god. Unstoppable and unfathomable for normal humans. That is a great two dimensional character for a two dimensional story but it holds little interest for me. And we have seen he has other motivations. He has unrequited love for Lois but he is never jealous? He is never angry about his inability to explore that relationship? Never feels isolated by his power? Boring.

There's a difference though. I think Superman can have these feelings and we can look deeper into the inner workings of him, but he still has to be Superman. We can have a more complex superman without making it dark. You can't go and change the very nature of the alien who adopts the planet as his own and swears to protect truth, justice, and the american way.

 

[B-Deep]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier's draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman's angst is not that he doesn't want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it's that he can't do it all; he can't do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

Just the mention of Kevin Smith and comics makes me want to post this again:Tim Burton on Kevin Smith (after Smith jokingly accused Burton of stealing the ending of Planet of the Apes from a Smith comic book):

"Anyone who knows me knows I would never read a comic book. And I would especially never read anything created by Kevin Smith."

Kevin Smith on Tim Burton (in response to "I would never read a comic book"):

"Which, to me, explains ####ing Batman."

lolit makes me think

"giant spider"

I don't know the reference. Is that from Planet of the Apes or Batman?

kind of long

spider part is at 8 minutes, but the whole thing is worth watching

 

[jdoggydogg]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier's draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman's angst is not that he doesn't want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it's that he can't do it all; he can't do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

Just the mention of Kevin Smith and comics makes me want to post this again:Tim Burton on Kevin Smith (after Smith jokingly accused Burton of stealing the ending of Planet of the Apes from a Smith comic book):

"Anyone who knows me knows I would never read a comic book. And I would especially never read anything created by Kevin Smith."

Kevin Smith on Tim Burton (in response to "I would never read a comic book"):

"Which, to me, explains ####ing Batman."

lolit makes me think

"giant spider"

I don't know the reference. Is that from Planet of the Apes or Batman?

kind of long

I'll watch.I've seen a lot of those Kevin Smith live DVDs, and they are very entertaining.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Are you guys seriously stressing over whether or not Lois Lane's hair is dark enough?

I think Amy Adams is a good choice, after all it's a reboot. She's probably an upgrade over Margot Kidder, just as Emma Stone was an upgrade over Kirsten Dunst in the Spiderman reboot.

I'm not knocking Adams at all. But I think Kidder was outstanding in that role.

 

[jdoggydogg]

One of the writers, Kevin Smith, said, "The thing that bothered me about [writer] Greg Poirier's draft: they were trying to give Superman angst. They had Clark Kent going to a psychiatrist at one point. Superman's angst is not that he doesn't want to be Superman. If he has any [angst], it's that he can't do it all; he can't do enough and save everyone...Batman is about angst; Superman is about hope."

See to me this is wrong. There has to be some part of Superman that just wants to be a guy. Joe Six-Pack. A wife, some kids, a dog and the white picket fence. And that part of him has to some time be very near the surface. If not then he is truly alien in every way and has little, to nothing, in common with the people he has sworn to protect.

Even when he became human in Superman II he quickly reconciled the fact that it just could never be and moved on without hesitation or, seemingly any regret. He is always about the greater good.

Again boring. In the end we know how the story goes, there is no dramatic tension. He will always be an all powerful boy scout. Now there is nothing wrong with being a boy scout per se but it makes for pretty drab story telling.

 

[Sabertooth]

These ####### reboots crack me up. So nothing else matters for this film....which won't matter in two years when they reboot it.