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Because who are you to tell people how they should and shouldn't react in such a condescending tone? Just because it's not a big deal to you doesn't mean others are wrong for having a lot invested in it, so get off your high horse. It's 4 months before the season, but some leagues are in the middle of RFA, or drafts, or whatever else they decide to do. It's not up to you to judge what's important for us. MFL gave almost no notice for this, so adjusting a league calendar on that kind of notice is difficult at best.
And since when is Twitter the first, and apparently only spot that a company posts status updates? You'd think if I clicked on the MFL site it would have more up-to-date information than me scanning through a thread on an unaffiliated message board.
100% agree. The website still says "should be up sometime Friday."
You'd think they could put this up on their site instead of a note saying the expect it to be back up yesterday.
I think people hoping for that will be seriously disappointed. What I read via Twitter was that everything being done was behind the scenes stuff. My understanding is that it will visually look like very little was done.
Sorry not trying to be condescending but just reminding people it's only April. I know most of you here are hardcore fantasy players and get excited around the draft but just put it in perspective that there will be plenty of time to accomplish trades and hold rookie drafts etc. Ultimately this will have no impact on you league this fall other than being a minor inconvenience. Yes it's not ideal and pretty crappy but your leagues will survive just fine. I appologize if I offended anyone.
Is it wrong that I am hoping the roster data got accidentally deleted and can't be recovered? My team could use a roster reset haha...
There's upgrading, and then there's what they did. Lets not get the two confused, sir. They handled this about as poorly as possible.First off, 98% of their customers have no idea this even happened as they are checked out until August. So there is that....
Second, (and not directed to anyone in particular) of course it doesn't look any different because it looks like how we each set it up. This was a backup database upgrade that was probably due 10 years ago and they finally needed to bite the bullet and get it done. This should allow them to actually do some "wiz bang" UI upgrades that people always want. I know several features requests I've made over the years just wasn't possible due to the ancient legacy backend that actually runs everything. Now with that getting upgrades (and no idea if more is needed) perhaps some requests can finally happen.
I find it funny indeed that the very people that complain they want MFL to modernize, when they start doing exactly that only complain that MFL is doing upgrades. LOL
Really. And you work in IT and know how database upgrades work? Especially from a decade+ old version? I'm honestly surprised it didn't take longer. I've seen many database upgrades go a whole lot worse then this over the years even to the point of plopping down half a million to Oracle themselves to come in and save the day. Happens all the time. Been involved many times in upgrades of all types where you've done the upgrade in test and validation several times without a hitch and when you get to production it all goes wrong for some reason and a 2 hour upgrade takes 5 days. It Sucks.
I work in IT as a software developer and I can tell you that no upgrade should have that much downtime, but I agree that things go wrong sometimes that require long outages. Database upgrades should be measured in hours, not days. Having said that, people should show more patience. Of course we live in a society where most have to have instant gratification so I'm not surprised by the outbursts in this forum.bonscott said:
No worries, nothing directed at anyone personally. I just find it humorous all the posts about how much of a disaster this was and how MFL will lose all this business and such. Fact is something obviously went wrong. What that is all we can do is speculate unless MFL decides to share. From what I've gleaned from MFL's twitter posts (and I haven't read them all) the main issue was migrating the tons of data from the past 20+ years into the new database. From this I assume they ditched their old database which was probably ancient and unsupported by any vendor to an actual modern and supported version or totally new vendor (say SQL from the 90s to a modern Oracle or something for example). Those types of migrations with the amount of data they have aren't usually a simple one-to-one migration and all kinds of things need to be rewritten (like queries) and so forth. Again, should have all been tested and ready to rock in validation but something went wrong or it just took a lot longer for all that data to actually migrate then they anticipated. In fact one tweet on Friday said they finally found the main issue slowing down the import of data and that it should go a lot quicker after that.
Just now with this outage. A lot of what has been holding them back from what I gather has been the really old back end database running things. If this is the last piece of that upgrade then they can move forward with modernizing things. I could be totally wrong of course. But from what they have implied on Twitter and in responses to people's feature requests over the past few years this would be a good bet.
