Michael Strahan berates female reporter (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

I love it when players put the media in their place...honestly. The Media think they are God.

The reporters are 0 percent at fault here. What part of this is difficult to understand?

Disagree. For example, this article paints the confrontation as an explosion. People who saw the clip said it seemed like a non issue. Reporters always try to make up issues so they have something to talk about.

Plus if Strahan talks to reporters at certain times normally then that's what he does. It's probably a habit/routine created because of people like that woman. If that woman doesn't like it, tough. There's ton of reporters in NY and nationally that would love a Strahan interview.

I didn't get the impression at all that "that woman doesn't like it". She tried to get Strahan to discuss the comments HE MADE and he didn't want to.

You said above that he told her he'd talk to reporters on Thursday. That's not so much blowing her off but making an appointment or a star player trying to corral the NY media in some way so he can "live his life". You said she then went to Plax which incited these comments below. She could have waited but like almost all media she "got off" on trying to get a player excited or agitated.

Then later he accuses HER of not looking him in the eye when asking the question?? Hey Mike, how about owning up to the comments you made?

You completely miss that he was going to address them on Thursday not "when she's good and ready" but when he is.

Maybe the Giants should just keep their mouths shut and not make comments about teammates? Face it, Strahan goes on radio and questioned Burress' heart. Unprovoked. Don't run away later and accuse the media of creating a story. If Strahan had kept his mouth shut there would be no story.

Yeah Strahan will keep his mouth shut...cmon.As I said in another thread, the Tiki and Strahan Giants have bickerred during every losing streak for years. This is not new.

 

[redman]

So what do some of you media haters think reporters should do while on the job?

Report the news impartially and responsibly. Don't become part of the story.

You've got to be kidding, right? I don't like the media and what it does at times, but to accuse her of "becoming part of the story" is ludicrous. Strahan's a prima donna like so many of the Giants stars are, and he flapped his gums about a teammate, and a reporter went to him privately and asked for comment. He turned her down, but when she asked the guy who was the target of Strahan's criticism about that criticism, Strahan then barges in and verbally attacks her. How is that making herself part of the story?

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly. Boo freaking hoo!

 

[Marc Levin]

Shush! Show **** some respect!

Please do not circumvent the language barrier.

 

[fatness]

Anyone catch the video of this?

Yeah, I did actually. He seemed angry, and dodged answering legit questions by talking louder, acting angry, and making accusations. He seemed quite the fool. I'd summarize it the way Redman did.

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly.

OT, but has anyone else ever noticed how much Strahan talks like Mike Tyson?

 

[Bri]

Just noticed how many posts are Skins fans are calling out Strahan in this thread....

 

[redman]

Just noticed how many posts are Skins fans are calling out Strahan in this thread....

The Giants are ripe pickings for all of the talking that they do, but you aren't going to find other posts from me harping on this. Either way, if that's the best argument you can make in defense of Strahan on this, then that speaks for itself now doesn't it? It's funny, Bri, but I agree with you that all in all this isn't that big of a deal. The irony, though, is that this would have been totally ignored, certainly outside of New York City, had Strahan himself not blown up. Everyone would have said "this is just the Giants being the Giants." I have a feeling this is Strahan's way of firing himself and maybe his team up, but it sure seems like a destructive way to do it.

 

[David Yudkin]

The reporter asked Strahan directly to comment and he declined. Since he clammed up, she went to Burress for his comments, at which point Strahan felt inclined that he wanted to talk and called HER out for not coming to him in the first place.

It's not real newsworthy anyway, and the Giants already have enough problems on the field to start worrying about what the media is doing.

 

[Banger]

The ironic point about this story is that Strahan is part of the media in this instance because he said the original comments on WFAN in a segment that he's paid for.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Isn't this the time of year when the media should focus on teams going to the playoffs?

 

[Gr00vus]

The last couple of weeks, all the Giants have talked about is how they can't throw each other under the bus through the media. Then Strahan goes on his weekly show on WFAN and makes the following quote about Burress:

"You can't give up. You can't quit. You're not just quitting on yourself, you're quitting on us. I don't understand what his lack of motivation is in those situations. He's too great of a player to look at him and say, "He's a quitter.'"

The ESPN reporter, Kelly Naqi, approached Strahan on Wednesday to ask about his comments. Strahan told her he only spoke to reporters on Thursdays. Naqi went to Strahan one-on-one first and it was Strahan that blew her off. She then did the logical thing and asked Burress about his reaction to a teammate making those comments on radio. Then Strahan decides he wants to talk?? He had the chance, face to face, to either retract what he said or defend it. He chose not to. Then later he decides to call out the reporter for not 'manning up'? Hey, someone didn't man up, but it wasn't the reporter.

Firstly, he was prompted for the initial response he gave by - you guessed it - the media. Then if you look at what he's saying I have a hard time seeing how he's "throwing someone under the bus" (#### that's a stupid expression) - the bolded part is actually a compliment. And it's really not news that people question Plax's "intensity" anyway - it's been going on his entire career. What Strahan said is non news. But what happens? The reporter takes it on herself to, when Strahan does what he always does and declines to give her an interview on a day when he doesn't give interviews (because what he said is just not that big a deal), go and rabble rouse by running to Burress and playing he said she said (what is this junior high?) so she can get (fabricate?) a story. Then Strahan calls her on it after the PR guy detects that the reporter is playing games and tells Strahan about the reporter's antics. Maybe Strahan shouldn't have said what he said initially (though I honestly don't see thing one wrong with it), but from there on out it's all about a busy body reporter digging for a story when there isn't much of anything to report. I'm not a Strahan fan, but I'm having trouble finding any fault with him in this, it really is all on the reporter and she deserved a lecture.

 

[Traders2001]

Of course she is a lady , easy for a wussy like Strahan . One on one with a real man Strahan wld cry like a baby ( Forget football i mean in real life , Strahan is a FK wussy )

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

So what do some of you media haters think reporters should do while on the job?

Report the news impartially and responsibly. Don't become part of the story.

You've got to be kidding, right? I don't like the media and what it does at times, but to accuse her of "becoming part of the story" is ludicrous. Strahan's a prima donna like so many of the Giants stars are, and he flapped his gums about a teammate, and a reporter went to him privately and asked for comment. He turned her down, but when she asked the guy who was the target of Strahan's criticism about that criticism, Strahan then barges in and verbally attacks her. How is that making herself part of the story?

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly. Boo freaking hoo!

If Strahan says "no comment" and she feels the need to stir crap up and get her story somewhere else, than she deserves what she got from Strahan. When Strahan declined comment, it should have been the end of the story......especially for something so petty.Yeah, you go girl, break that big story by going around players backs.....whatever makes ya' feel better at night.

Players should run the media, media doesn't run the players. It is a power thing.

 

[JBTV]

Uh, it's pretty standard procedure to try and get multiple players comments on a story you are doing. She wasn't "running around behind his back playing he said she said," she was getting the other half of the story from what she was getting from Strahan on Thursday. Read any story about anything and you'll see quotes from the main subjects, then a couple quotes from other players commenting on the main subject...she was just in the process of getting background quotes.

Here's an idea, if he doesn't like the story she's pursuing, maybe he shouldn't go on the radio (in an appearance he's getting paid to make) and call out Plaxico, then say he's talked to Plax about it when Plax himself is saying that he hasn't talked to Strahan about it at all. Someone there is lying, and it's certainly not the reporter.

 

[parasaurolophus]

sounds all too eerily similar to coughlins last days in jax. Now all they need is an injured player suing the team for mistreating him or misdiagnosing him.

 

[purestrength]

Uh, it's pretty standard procedure to try and get multiple players comments on a story you are doing. She wasn't "running around behind his back playing he said she said," she was getting the other half of the story from what she was getting from Strahan on Thursday. Read any story about anything and you'll see quotes from the main subjects, then a couple quotes from other players commenting on the main subject...she was just in the process of getting background quotes. Here's an idea, if he doesn't like the story she's pursuing, maybe he shouldn't go on the radio (in an appearance he's getting paid to make) and call out Plaxico, then say he's talked to Plax about it when Plax himself is saying that he hasn't talked to Strahan about it at all. Someone there is lying, and it's certainly not the reporter.

Thank you for the most sensible post in this thread.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

So what do some of you media haters think reporters should do while on the job?

Report the news impartially and responsibly. Don't become part of the story.

You've got to be kidding, right? I don't like the media and what it does at times, but to accuse her of "becoming part of the story" is ludicrous. Strahan's a prima donna like so many of the Giants stars are, and he flapped his gums about a teammate, and a reporter went to him privately and asked for comment. He turned her down, but when she asked the guy who was the target of Strahan's criticism about that criticism, Strahan then barges in and verbally attacks her. How is that making herself part of the story?

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly. Boo freaking hoo!

If Strahan says "no comment" and she feels the need to stir crap up and get her story somewhere else, than she deserves what she got from Strahan. When Strahan declined comment, it should have been the end of the story......especially for something so petty.Yeah, you go girl, break that big story by going around players backs.....whatever makes ya' feel better at night.

Players should run the media, media doesn't run the players. It is a power thing.

Wow, I don't know where to start. So if a player says something calling out another player, they can just say "no comment"" and nobody is supposed to follow up on it? It just goes away???If what he said wasn't inflammatory, why get upset that she's asking about it. If there wasn't a story, she wouldn't find one. Everyone in the locker room that she asked would just say 'Nah, we got no problem with what he said. He wasn't calling out Plaxico at all." And strahan would have no reason to confront her.

But he did say it, and she's doing what the press does, which is follow up and ask questions and, yes... stir the pot a little.

I'd much rather deal with this, than a world where every stupid thing the players do is hushed up. Every time they flip the bird at the stands, nobody reports it because the players run the media. Every time a Bengal drives around plastered or buys drinks for teenagers would get hushed. Players may start mouthing off at each other and not trusting each other, yet we live blissfully unaware of the dissention and just sit slack-jawed admiring our Mighty Heroes of the Gridiron because we don't know that they are really selfish putzes. I'd much rather see a reporter go beyond the first no comment than deal with a situation where the "players run the media".

 

[KiddLattimer]

Asked about his comments regarding Burress, Strahan demanded that ESPN's Kelly Naqi step to the front of a media pack and "look me in the eye."

I think this is a bit of poor phrasing by the writer, since "look me in the eye" is only a portion of his comment. If he ran up to her and only said "Look me in the eye!" then that is more of a forceful intimidation tactic. That particular comment was an aside to a longer statement and was said with purpose, but not really said in a 'threatening' way like the article above implies.I'm paraphrasing but what he said essentially was 'If you're going to come in and ask about what I said come up to me, look me in the eye, and ask me about it instead of going to my teammate and asking him what I meant'

In the end it was still pretty stupid for him to go off like that, since in the end it is HIS fault for shooting off his mouth, but this writer was really trying for the dramatic in his phrasing.

 

[Gr00vus]

Uh, it's pretty standard procedure to try and get multiple players comments on a story you are doing. She wasn't "running around behind his back playing he said she said," she was getting the other half of the story from what she was getting from Strahan on Thursday. Read any story about anything and you'll see quotes from the main subjects, then a couple quotes from other players commenting on the main subject...she was just in the process of getting background quotes. Here's an idea, if he doesn't like the story she's pursuing, maybe he shouldn't go on the radio (in an appearance he's getting paid to make) and call out Plaxico, then say he's talked to Plax about it when Plax himself is saying that he hasn't talked to Strahan about it at all. Someone there is lying, and it's certainly not the reporter.

But she wasn't doing a story - there was no story - she was attempting to fabricate a story. Strahan's comments, prompted by the media, weren't news worthy. He answered a question, he ended by complimenting a teammate. No story there. I'm sorry you can't (or don't want to) see that, but it's pretty obvious. If it was such a big deal, why was this reporter the only one pursuing it?As for lying, the timetable of all the comments still isn't clear to me, so I can't resolve that one. More importantly, I don't really care. I do however find all the people getting worked up over a football player giving an honest, innocuous answer to a question quite fascinating however. Why is it causing you so much seeming distress?

 

[suchislife]

Uh, it's pretty standard procedure to try and get multiple players comments on a story you are doing. She wasn't "running around behind his back playing he said she said," she was getting the other half of the story from what she was getting from Strahan on Thursday. Read any story about anything and you'll see quotes from the main subjects, then a couple quotes from other players commenting on the main subject...she was just in the process of getting background quotes.

Here's an idea, if he doesn't like the story she's pursuing, maybe he shouldn't go on the radio (in an appearance he's getting paid to make) and call out Plaxico, then say he's talked to Plax about it when Plax himself is saying that he hasn't talked to Strahan about it at all. Someone there is lying, and it's certainly not the reporter.

But she wasn't doing a story - there was no story - she was attempting to fabricate a story. Strahan's comments, prompted by the media, weren't news worthy. He answered a question, he ended by complimenting a teammate. No story there. I'm sorry you can't (or don't want to) see that, but it's pretty obvious.As for lying, the timetable of all the comments still isn't clear to me, so I can't resolve that one. More importantly, I don't really care. I do however find all the people getting worked up over a football player giving an honest, innocuous answer to a question quite fascinating however. Why is it causing you so much seeming distress?

I think you're missing something here, Groovus. He was not prompted by the media. Strahan's initial comment was by him on his own radio show where he questioned a teammate's heart. If that's not a story, I don't what is.

 

[Gr00vus]

I think you're missing something here, Groovus. He was not prompted by the media. Strahan's initial comment was by him on his own radio show where he questioned a teammate's heart. If that's not a story, I don't what is.

Have you heard the segment in question? I ask because I have not, the way the quote has been captured it seems to me that it is an answer to a question someone else posed to him. Anyone who can clear that up would be greatly appreciated.However, even if he came up with this comment on his own, I still don't see much of an issue with it. He states the usual cannard that you shouldn't quit on the team and then says Plax is too great of a player to do something like that. Where's the hubbub?There wasn't one, as evidenced by the fact that it's just the one reporter who bothered to do anything with the quote. Why, we didn't even hear about it until this thread - everyone else passed on it, but this reporter went to work trying to make a big deal out of it. Hell, Plax didn't even seem to be aware of it until she mentioned it to him - how big a deal could it have been? And how much do you want to bet she presented it to him out of context, without the full quote?She deserved a talking to, and Strahan gave it to her - and from the video I don't see where he "went off on her" anyway.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Uh, it's pretty standard procedure to try and get multiple players comments on a story you are doing. She wasn't "running around behind his back playing he said she said," she was getting the other half of the story from what she was getting from Strahan on Thursday. Read any story about anything and you'll see quotes from the main subjects, then a couple quotes from other players commenting on the main subject...she was just in the process of getting background quotes.

Here's an idea, if he doesn't like the story she's pursuing, maybe he shouldn't go on the radio (in an appearance he's getting paid to make) and call out Plaxico, then say he's talked to Plax about it when Plax himself is saying that he hasn't talked to Strahan about it at all. Someone there is lying, and it's certainly not the reporter.

But she wasn't doing a story - there was no story - she was attempting to fabricate a story. Strahan's comments, prompted by the media, weren't news worthy. He answered a question, he ended by complimenting a teammate. No story there. I'm sorry you can't (or don't want to) see that, but it's pretty obvious. If it was such a big deal, why was this reporter the only one pursuing it?As for lying, the timetable of all the comments still isn't clear to me, so I can't resolve that one. More importantly, I don't really care. I do however find all the people getting worked up over a football player giving an honest, innocuous answer to a question quite fascinating however. Why is it causing you so much seeming distress?

Where is the compliment? I've not been able to find out what he said after this:"It's a shame, because Plaxico is a great player and a good guy to be around, but at the same time you're judged by your actions on the field and you can't give up, you can't quit, because you're not quitting on yourself, you're quitting on us"

If you're referring to what he said there, "It's a shame, because Plaxico is a great player and a good guy to be around, but at the same time you're judged by your actions on the field" is about as backhanded a "compliment" as you can give.

BTW: Is strahan even playing? Why is he mouthing off at all?

 

[redman]

Uh, it's pretty standard procedure to try and get multiple players comments on a story you are doing. She wasn't "running around behind his back playing he said she said," she was getting the other half of the story from what she was getting from Strahan on Thursday. Read any story about anything and you'll see quotes from the main subjects, then a couple quotes from other players commenting on the main subject...she was just in the process of getting background quotes.

Here's an idea, if he doesn't like the story she's pursuing, maybe he shouldn't go on the radio (in an appearance he's getting paid to make) and call out Plaxico, then say he's talked to Plax about it when Plax himself is saying that he hasn't talked to Strahan about it at all. Someone there is lying, and it's certainly not the reporter.

But she wasn't doing a story - there was no story - she was attempting to fabricate a story. Strahan's comments, prompted by the media, weren't news worthy. He answered a question, he ended by complimenting a teammate. No story there. I'm sorry you can't (or don't want to) see that, but it's pretty obvious.As for lying, the timetable of all the comments still isn't clear to me, so I can't resolve that one. More importantly, I don't really care. I do however find all the people getting worked up over a football player giving an honest, innocuous answer to a question quite fascinating however. Why is it causing you so much seeming distress?

I think you're missing something here, Groovus. He was not prompted by the media. Strahan's initial comment was by him on his own radio show where he questioned a teammate's heart. If that's not a story, I don't what is.

Gr00vus, I don't know what you're smoking here but I want some. Since when is calling out your teammate for a lack of effort not newsworthy? Since when can you reasonably expect journalists in any city (forget about the biggest city in the U.S. which also happens to be the nation's media center) to simply overlook such comments?

I think we can all agree that in the whole scheme of things this doesn't quite rate with the reporting and analysis that Ron Jaworski does breaking down plays, but probably 90% of the stories written by beat writers across the country relate to team chemistry and interpersonal relationships in the locker room, either expressly or impliedly. If this isn't newsworthy, then frankly you're eliminating the overwhelming majority of NFL-related news stories.

Again, I'm no particular champion of media rights and I do believe that the media encourages dissention, but to say that that's the primary force at work in this situation is to give Strahan a totally free ride on his own, unprompted comments on his own radio show.

 

[Gr00vus]

Where is the compliment?

Taken from a post above:

"You can't give up. You can't quit. You're not just quitting on yourself, you're quitting on us. I don't understand what his lack of motivation is in those situations. He's too great of a player to look at him and say, "He's a quitter.'"

Would you agree that at least the bolded part is a compliment? You could even take it to mean that Strahan doesn't think Plax is generally a quitter and whas somewhat surprised by this one action, I won't go that far, since Plax is actually known to have "quit" on several occasions throughout his career, but still...

 

[redman]

Where is the compliment?

Taken from a post above:

"You can't give up. You can't quit. You're not just quitting on yourself, you're quitting on us. I don't understand what his lack of motivation is in those situations. He's too great of a player to look at him and say, "He's a quitter.'"

Would you agree that at least the bolded part is a compliment?

This frankly rates with General Schwartzkopf's "compliment" of Saddam Hussein's military leadership during the first Gulf War:

As far as Saddam Hussein being a great military strategist, he is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier. Other than that, he's a great military man. I want you to know that.

With "compliments" like this, who needs criticism?

 

[Gr00vus]

"You can't give up. You can't quit. You're not just quitting on yourself, you're quitting on us. I don't understand what his lack of motivation is in those situations. He's too great of a player to look at him and say, "He's a quitter.'"

With "compliments" like this, who needs criticism?

I guess we just disagree about what we consider a compliment. Someone calls me a great player, I'm feeling pretty good about myself. I don't see the parallel to the other unrelated quote in any way - Strahan didn't say Plax was slow, ran bad routes, can't catch, can't get separation, and basically hasn't proven himself yet he's a great player. He questioned his actions on one play, but still said he's a great player - of which he expects better because he's great. There's a big difference.

 

[suchislife]

"You can't give up. You can't quit. You're not just quitting on yourself, you're quitting on us. He's too great of a player to look at him and say, "He's a quitter.'"

With "compliments" like this, who needs criticism?

I guess we just disagree about what we consider a compliment. Someone calls me a great player, I'm feeling pretty good about myself. I don't see the parallel to the other unrelated quote in any way - Strahan didn't say Plax was slow, ran bad routes, can't catch, can't get separation, and basically hasn't proven himself yet he's a great player. He questioned his actions on one play, but still said he's a great player - of which he expects better because he's great. There's a big difference.

If that was meant to be a compliment, Plaxico certainly didn't take it that way:“I haven’t had a conversation with him,” Burress said. “If that’s the way he feels, hey, I don’t talk about my teammates. If that’s the way he feels, then that’s the way he feels. I know what my motivation is. If that’s the way he feels, then that’s sad.”

The only thing I'm still waiting for is for Strahan to tell us he misquoted himself. If you think the bolded part above is actually a compliment, what do you call "I don't understand what his lack of motivation is in those situations."

 

[DoubleG]

I could bump probably 20-30 threads with 100s of people here complaining about Plax's attitude. I could probably link to 100 articles about it going back to his Steeler days even. Now Strahan says that and it shakes up the earth?

The reaction to this is too much IMO.

Sorry, major FLA\/\/ED logic. How many of those posts and articles were written by his teammates?The simple fact is Strahan said something he shouldn't have said, and in his mature pro-athlete way doing what every 6 year old does to fix a screw up - "It's not MY fault...she started it!!"

 

[Gr00vus]

If that was meant to be a compliment, Plaxico certainly didn't take it that way:

“I haven’t had a conversation with him,” Burress said. “If that’s the way he feels, hey, I don’t talk about my teammates. If that’s the way he feels, then that’s the way he feels. I know what my motivation is. If that’s the way he feels, then that’s sad.”

Probably because he never heard the part I bolded - I'd bet you a million bucks to a bucket of pig #### that the reporter never gave him the full quote, only the part she knew would get the response she wanted. In fact if this (from the original post):

When Burress heard that Strahan had said, "You can't give up and you can't quit, because you're not quitting on yourself, you're quitting on us, you're quitting on everybody," it was enough to trigger the latest round of discontent from the Bickering Blue.

is accurate, that's exactly what happened, which makes the reporters' actions and motives even more questionable.

The only thing I'm still waiting for is for Strahan to tell us he misquoted himself. If you think the bolded part above is actually a compliment, what do you call "I don't understand what his lack of motivation is in those situations."

I call it Strahan trying to underrstand what led to Plax's seeming failure to give 100% effort. Maybe he should have been more "refined" and not stated what everyone else was thinking on the radio show, I'll grant that, but it's still not that big a deal, especially in the context in which it was offered during which Strahan still promoted an overall positive view of Plax in the final analysis.I don't know why you're waiting for the misquote thing - at no time has Strahan backed away from his comments in this situation, probably because he didn't think they were that big a deal in the first place.

 

[Despyzer]

It was a punk move (not saying Strahan himself is a punk). He got caught up in the moment and said something he shouldn't have. Instead of taking responsibility for his own actions, he tried to intimidate a reporter who was just doing her job. I expected better from him, and he deserves to get called out on this.

 

[Marc Levin]

sounds all too eerily similar to coughlins last days in jax. Now all they need is an injured player suing the team for mistreating him or misdiagnosing him.

If the roundtable is out, check out the Eli Manning story - I predict Coughlin is gone maybe as soon as the day after this season's over.

 

[Bri]

So what do some of you media haters think reporters should do while on the job?

Report the news impartially and responsibly. Don't become part of the story.

You've got to be kidding, right? I don't like the media and what it does at times, but to accuse her of "becoming part of the story" is ludicrous. Strahan's a prima donna like so many of the Giants stars are, and he flapped his gums about a teammate, and a reporter went to him privately and asked for comment. He turned her down, but when she asked the guy who was the target of Strahan's criticism about that criticism, Strahan then barges in and verbally attacks her. How is that making herself part of the story?

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly. Boo freaking hoo!

If Strahan says "no comment" and she feels the need to stir crap up and get her story somewhere else, than she deserves what she got from Strahan. When Strahan declined comment, it should have been the end of the story......especially for something so petty.Yeah, you go girl, break that big story by going around players backs.....whatever makes ya' feel better at night.

Players should run the media, media doesn't run the players. It is a power thing.

Wow, I don't know where to start. So if a player says something calling out another player, they can just say "no comment"" and nobody is supposed to follow up on it? It just goes away???

You are missing the simple point that he told her he'd talk Thursday and instead of waiting she then ran to Plax to stir him up. He didn't avoid it altogether. Do you have any idea how many reporters are in NY swarming any star type? Alot of them schedule interviews, it's a very common reaction.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

So what do some of you media haters think reporters should do while on the job?

Report the news impartially and responsibly. Don't become part of the story.

You've got to be kidding, right? I don't like the media and what it does at times, but to accuse her of "becoming part of the story" is ludicrous. Strahan's a prima donna like so many of the Giants stars are, and he flapped his gums about a teammate, and a reporter went to him privately and asked for comment. He turned her down, but when she asked the guy who was the target of Strahan's criticism about that criticism, Strahan then barges in and verbally attacks her. How is that making herself part of the story?

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly. Boo freaking hoo!

If Strahan says "no comment" and she feels the need to stir crap up and get her story somewhere else, than she deserves what she got from Strahan. When Strahan declined comment, it should have been the end of the story......especially for something so petty.Yeah, you go girl, break that big story by going around players backs.....whatever makes ya' feel better at night.

Players should run the media, media doesn't run the players. It is a power thing.

Wow, I don't know where to start. So if a player says something calling out another player, they can just say "no comment"" and nobody is supposed to follow up on it? It just goes away???

You are missing the simple point that he told her he'd talk Thursday and instead of waiting she then ran to Plax to stir him up. He didn't avoid it altogether. Do you have any idea how many reporters are in NY swarming any star type? Alot of them schedule interviews, it's a very common reaction.

Well, I guess that wasn't even what I was getting at here....If it is a team issue, why does the media need to stick their noses in it. I am of the opinion that when it comes to sports, why in the world does it matter if as a journalist, you find out that two teammates are bickering? That goes on in EVERY LEVEL OF SPORTS!

Just because Strahan said it, does not make it a journalist's business to go in and make a big deal out of it. How does two teammates arguing affect ANYONE OUTSIDE THE LOCKER ROOM? Even if it is aired publicly, it does not concern the journalist or his/her employer, so quit stirring crap up.

 

[Bri]

I was replying to the previous poster there Kev

 

[redman]

Well, I guess that wasn't even what I was getting at here....If it is a team issue, why does the media need to stick their noses in it. I am of the opinion that when it comes to sports, why in the world does it matter if as a journalist, you find out that two teammates are bickering? That goes on in EVERY LEVEL OF SPORTS!Just because Strahan said it, does not make it a journalist's business to go in and make a big deal out of it. How does two teammates arguing affect ANYONE OUTSIDE THE LOCKER ROOM? Even if it is aired publicly, it does not concern the journalist or his/her employer, so quit stirring crap up.

Why does it matter? Because people want to read about it or watch it on the news. It's drama, and drama sells. It's the journalist's business to dig into issues that are in the public interest. As Mencken said, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people." I don't think that anyone here is trying to portray this journalist on a noble mission from God, however to express surprise that she's following up on comments from Strahan that could hardly be more public is mystifying to me.

 

[Bri]

I don't think that anyone here is trying to portray this journalist on a noble mission from God, however to express surprise that she's following up on comments from Strahan that could hardly be more public is mystifying to me.

There's how many reporters in the lockerroom? WFAN is extremely popular in NY. It never gets great #s but it's the sorta station everybody hits from time to time. All this stems from an interview on a popular radio station and she is the only one that caused a prob about chatting tomorrow?there's definitely alot we're not being told

 

[Bri]

Redman,

if I bet you yesterday which would be the bigger story in NY "tabloids" which would you have picked.

This reporter stuff or these TO quotes?

Dallas WR Terrell Owens on WR Plaxico Burress, who criticized Owens' toughness after the Giants' win in Dallas earlier this year: "Yeah, we'll get (Plaxico) this week. We'll get him this week. All I know is, everybody, (our) defense has been hitting some people, kind of laying the wood a little bit. I'm pretty sure they have been watching the film so he better watch out."

Owens on TE Jeremy Shockey, who said there was no way the Cowboys beat the Giants if the Giants play well: "(Shockey) was just popping off at the mouth. Whatever he needs to do to spark that team and probably try to get a rise out of us. He is not going to do it. Right now he is frustrated. What they should really be focusing on trying to do is get off that losing streak. And I don't foresee it happening this weekend."

 

[Gr00vus]

But seriously, can't we all just get along - and return to bashing Eli round the clock? Enough of this Plax/Strahan sideshow!

 

[fruity pebbles]

Strahan talks an awful lot for a guy who's not even playing right now.

 

[redman]

Redman,if I bet you yesterday which would be the bigger story in NY "tabloids" which would you have picked.This reporter stuff or these TO quotes?Dallas WR Terrell Owens on WR Plaxico Burress, who criticized Owens' toughness after the Giants' win in Dallas earlier this year: "Yeah, we'll get (Plaxico) this week. We'll get him this week. All I know is, everybody, (our) defense has been hitting some people, kind of laying the wood a little bit. I'm pretty sure they have been watching the film so he better watch out." Owens on TE Jeremy Shockey, who said there was no way the Cowboys beat the Giants if the Giants play well: "(Shockey) was just popping off at the mouth. Whatever he needs to do to spark that team and probably try to get a rise out of us. He is not going to do it. Right now he is frustrated. What they should really be focusing on trying to do is get off that losing streak. And I don't foresee it happening this weekend."

They're equal. Both relate to chattering from people known to chatter. I see no particular reason to distinguish them . . . except for the fact that the Strahan story included him actually confronting someone.

 

[Koya]

He sure took the attention off the actual comments themselves, and perhaps more importantly, everyone is paying attention to Strahan's big mouth ( ) and not to Eli.

Or the Giants SUCKING.

 

[SCGiants]

I have read arrogant, Prima Donna and other derrogative terms here to describe the Giants players. Problem is these are probably coming from Dallas, Philly and Washington fans..the worst of the worst when it comes to describing ANY of those terms. Give me a team and I can show you a time or player where you will hang your head by either on field or off field conduct.. NONE are 100% innocent.

So which is worst? The fan who thinks he (or God forgive if I don't include SHE) is the closest thing to God since Jesus Christ himself or the player who was acting off of emotion? ..or the fan who is pissed their own team is done with or underachievers?

The Giants have some problems.. but they aren't beyond repair..winning cures a LOT..and these issues are all based upon frustration. Thing is if the Giants win this week they lead the division again..like they have all year...and like they won last year!

Get over yourselves.. if you don't like the Giants don't watch em'..and don't listen to em'...much like I don't with Mike Irving, Deion Sanders or Shannon Sharpe.

 

[purestrength]

I have read arrogant, Prima Donna and other derrogative terms here to describe the Giants players. Problem is these are probably coming from Dallas, Philly and Washington fans..the worst of the worst when it comes to describing ANY of those terms. Give me a team and I can show you a time or player where you will hang your head by either on field or off field conduct.. NONE are 100% innocent. So which is worst? The fan who thinks he (or God forgive if I don't include SHE) is the closest thing to God since Jesus Christ himself or the player who was acting off of emotion? ..or the fan who is pissed their own team is done with or underachievers? The Giants have some problems.. but they aren't beyond repair..winning cures a LOT..and these issues are all based upon frustration. Thing is if the Giants win this week they lead the division again..like they have all year...and like they won last year! Get over yourselves.. if you don't like the Giants don't watch em'..and don't listen to em'...much like I don't with Mike Irving, Deion Sanders or Shannon Sharpe.

I'm not a fan of any NFC East team. In fact, I hope Dallas and Romo choke on their lead. But it's tough for a neutral fan not to think Strahan is arrogant after this recent tirade.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

I have read arrogant, Prima Donna and other derrogative terms here to describe the Giants players. Problem is these are probably coming from Dallas, Philly and Washington fans..the worst of the worst when it comes to describing ANY of those terms. Give me a team and I can show you a time or player where you will hang your head by either on field or off field conduct.. NONE are 100% innocent. So which is worst? The fan who thinks he (or God forgive if I don't include SHE) is the closest thing to God since Jesus Christ himself or the player who was acting off of emotion? ..or the fan who is pissed their own team is done with or underachievers? The Giants have some problems.. but they aren't beyond repair..winning cures a LOT..and these issues are all based upon frustration. Thing is if the Giants win this week they lead the division again..like they have all year...and like they won last year! Get over yourselves.. if you don't like the Giants don't watch em'..and don't listen to em'...much like I don't with Mike Irving, Deion Sanders or Shannon Sharpe.

I'm not a fan of any NFC East team. In fact, I hope Dallas and Romo choke on their lead. But it's tough for a neutral fan not to think Strahan is arrogant after this recent tirade.

And if he is arrogant????That is what I have been getting at in my posts in this thread...I know you were not replying to me here, but who gives a crap if another guy is arrogant? Why does it concern us OR the media?

 

[Mudcrab]

And if he is arrogant????That is what I have been getting at in my posts in this thread...I know you were not replying to me here, but who gives a crap if another guy is arrogant? Why does it concern us OR the media?

I'm not a psychology expert, so I can't explain why, but it just does. Look, there are nearly 100 posts already about it in this thread!

 

[redman]

I have read arrogant, Prima Donna and other derrogative terms here to describe the Giants players. Problem is these are probably coming from Dallas, Philly and Washington fans..the worst of the worst when it comes to describing ANY of those terms. Give me a team and I can show you a time or player where you will hang your head by either on field or off field conduct.. NONE are 100% innocent.

So which is worst? The fan who thinks he (or God forgive if I don't include SHE) is the closest thing to God since Jesus Christ himself or the player who was acting off of emotion? ..or the fan who is pissed their own team is done with or underachievers?

The Giants have some problems.. but they aren't beyond repair..winning cures a LOT..and these issues are all based upon frustration. Thing is if the Giants win this week they lead the division again..like they have all year...and like they won last year!

Get over yourselves.. if you don't like the Giants don't watch em'..and don't listen to em'...much like I don't with Mike Irving, Deion Sanders or Shannon Sharpe.

It's derogatory, not "derogative". It's Irvin, not Irving.

I'm a Redskins fan who notes the Giants have whined and complained off and on ever since Coughlin was hired because he held them accountable. Coughlin's helped them return to winning, but at the slightest sign of adversity (the loss of a playoff game; a mid-season losing streak) the Giants start sniping.

And you're saying that every team is like this? The Redskins last year were 5-6 around this point in the season. Did they start sniping? No, they buttoned down and won five in a row. . . except for Arrington . . . who they allowed to go in free agency . . . and who the Giants signed.

The Cowboys were losing to teams they should have been beating with Bledsoe at QB. Did they start sniping (apart from the regular weekly static from TO)? No, they rallied around Romo and have been winning. And aside from TO I can't remember any problems on the Eagles team in the last several years with the players sniping at each other or at the coaches.

Were you directing those comments at the fans of those teams? If so, you're completely missing the point. This is a problem in the Giants' locker room, not in the stands, and it relates to Strahan, Shockey, and Barber, the supposed leaders of your favorite team.

 

[redman]

I have read arrogant, Prima Donna and other derrogative terms here to describe the Giants players. Problem is these are probably coming from Dallas, Philly and Washington fans..the worst of the worst when it comes to describing ANY of those terms. Give me a team and I can show you a time or player where you will hang your head by either on field or off field conduct.. NONE are 100% innocent.

So which is worst? The fan who thinks he (or God forgive if I don't include SHE) is the closest thing to God since Jesus Christ himself or the player who was acting off of emotion? ..or the fan who is pissed their own team is done with or underachievers?

The Giants have some problems.. but they aren't beyond repair..winning cures a LOT..and these issues are all based upon frustration. Thing is if the Giants win this week they lead the division again..like they have all year...and like they won last year!

Get over yourselves.. if you don't like the Giants don't watch em'..and don't listen to em'...much like I don't with Mike Irving, Deion Sanders or Shannon Sharpe.

I'm not a fan of any NFC East team. In fact, I hope Dallas and Romo choke on their lead. But it's tough for a neutral fan not to think Strahan is arrogant after this recent tirade.

And if he is arrogant????That is what I have been getting at in my posts in this thread...I know you were not replying to me here, but who gives a crap if another guy is arrogant? Why does it concern us OR the media?

Kevin, I find it funny that a staff member of a fantasy football website is complaining about the media wasting time/effort on extraneous information. It's not like we're saving the world by playing fantasy football. Are WR targets really newsworthy, or is FBG's meticulous compilation of them simply a product of peoples' passion for fantasy football? I see fans of the game who are interested in sniping between players in the Giants locker room no more screwy for their interest than the rest of us are for enjoying compiling fictitious rosters of NFL players who we can't control and who don't even know our names and passionately following their every moves (and endlessly debating what we anticipate them doing) and actually betting money on the venture.

Where's the confusion here. People are interested on the subject matter so reporters report on it. That Strahan either doesn't understand that, or doesn't think that he should be subject to it, or is trying to fire up his team is of interest no matter how you cut it.

 

[Bri]

Kevin, I find it funny that a staff member of a fantasy football website is complaining about the media wasting time/effort on extraneous information. It's not like we're saving the world by playing fantasy football. Are WR targets really newsworthy, or is FBG's meticulous compilation of them simply a product of peoples' passion for fantasy football?

this is an interview "what to do, what not to do" thread. Can you throw me some links to Kevin interviewing NFL players please?

 

[softball]

I have read arrogant, Prima Donna and other derrogative terms here to describe the Giants players. Problem is these are probably coming from Dallas, Philly and Washington fans..the worst of the worst when it comes to describing ANY of those terms. Give me a team and I can show you a time or player where you will hang your head by either on field or off field conduct.. NONE are 100% innocent.

So which is worst? The fan who thinks he (or God forgive if I don't include SHE) is the closest thing to God since Jesus Christ himself or the player who was acting off of emotion? ..or the fan who is pissed their own team is done with or underachievers?

The Giants have some problems.. but they aren't beyond repair..winning cures a LOT..and these issues are all based upon frustration. Thing is if the Giants win this week they lead the division again..like they have all year...and like they won last year!

Get over yourselves.. if you don't like the Giants don't watch em'..and don't listen to em'...much like I don't with Mike Irving, Deion Sanders or Shannon Sharpe.

It's derogatory, not "derogative". It's Irvin, not Irving.

I'm a Redskins fan who notes the Giants have whined and complained off and on ever since Coughlin was hired because he held them accountable. Coughlin's helped them return to winning, but at the slightest sign of adversity (the loss of a playoff game; a mid-season losing streak) the Giants start sniping.

And you're saying that every team is like this? The Redskins last year were 5-6 around this point in the season. Did they start sniping? No, they buttoned down and won five in a row. . . except for Arrington . . . who they allowed to go in free agency . . . and who the Giants signed.

The Cowboys were losing to teams they should have been beating with Bledsoe at QB. Did they start sniping (apart from the regular weekly static from TO)? No, they rallied around Romo and have been winning. And aside from TO I can't remember any problems on the Eagles team in the last several years with the players sniping at each other or at the coaches.

Were you directing those comments at the fans of those teams? If so, you're completely missing the point. This is a problem in the Giants' locker room, not in the stands, and it relates to Strahan, Shockey, and Barber, the supposed leaders of your favorite team.

Don't mind if I do add a personal note:Michael Strahan is a JERK and has done this before. He has ALWAYS been a jerk. And that's about that.

A little heads up for all the fans here as well. Tiki Barber is a TOTAL jerk, protected by the media as "one of them"

Paxico, do I NEED to state he's a jerk?

Get it? they ALL are.

And to support what Renman stated about whining about Coughlin. I was sitting right next to Michael Strahan the day T.C. was announced as the H.C. You have NEVER heard a grown man whine like this guy about "not being able to sit on helmets" wearing ties...who was he whining to? Will Allen and Tiki Braber...

I'm not usually one to bash, but 100 posts is incredible to get to the bottom line, they are really a bunch of jerks...

 

[coolnerd]

I have read arrogant, Prima Donna and other derrogative terms here to describe the Giants players. Problem is these are probably coming from Dallas, Philly and Washington fans..the worst of the worst when it comes to describing ANY of those terms. Give me a team and I can show you a time or player where you will hang your head by either on field or off field conduct.. NONE are 100% innocent.

So which is worst? The fan who thinks he (or God forgive if I don't include SHE) is the closest thing to God since Jesus Christ himself or the player who was acting off of emotion? ..or the fan who is pissed their own team is done with or underachievers?

The Giants have some problems.. but they aren't beyond repair..winning cures a LOT..and these issues are all based upon frustration. Thing is if the Giants win this week they lead the division again..like they have all year...and like they won last year!

Get over yourselves.. if you don't like the Giants don't watch em'..and don't listen to em'...much like I don't with Mike Irving, Deion Sanders or Shannon Sharpe.

I'm not a fan of any NFC East team. In fact, I hope Dallas and Romo choke on their lead. But it's tough for a neutral fan not to think Strahan is arrogant after this recent tirade.

And if he is arrogant????That is what I have been getting at in my posts in this thread...I know you were not replying to me here, but who gives a crap if another guy is arrogant? Why does it concern us OR the media?

Kevin, I find it funny that a staff member of a fantasy football website is complaining about the media wasting time/effort on extraneous information. It's not like we're saving the world by playing fantasy football. Are WR targets really newsworthy, or is FBG's meticulous compilation of them simply a product of peoples' passion for fantasy football? I see fans of the game who are interested in sniping between players in the Giants locker room no more screwy for their interest than the rest of us are for enjoying compiling fictitious rosters of NFL players who we can't control and who don't even know our names and passionately following their every moves (and endlessly debating what we anticipate them doing) and actually betting money on the venture.

Where's the confusion here. People are interested on the subject matter so reporters report on it. That Strahan either doesn't understand that, or doesn't think that he should be subject to it, or is trying to fire up his team is of interest no matter how you cut it.

Only for this explanation of fantasy football

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

So what do some of you media haters think reporters should do while on the job?

Report the news impartially and responsibly. Don't become part of the story.

You've got to be kidding, right?

I don't like the media and what it does at times, but to accuse her of "becoming part of the story" is ludicrous. Strahan's a prima donna like so many of the Giants stars are, and he flapped his gums about a teammate, and a reporter went to him privately and asked for comment. He turned her down, but when she asked the guy who was the target of Strahan's criticism about that criticism, Strahan then barges in and verbally attacks her. How is that making herself part of the story?

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly. Boo freaking hoo!

If Strahan says "no comment" and she feels the need to stir crap up and get her story somewhere else, than she deserves what she got from Strahan. When Strahan declined comment, it should have been the end of the story......especially for something so petty.

Yeah, you go girl, break that big story by going around players backs.....whatever makes ya' feel better at night.

Players should run the media, media doesn't run the players. It is a power thing.

Wow, I don't know where to start. So if a player says something calling out another player, they can just say "no comment"" and nobody is supposed to follow up on it? It just goes away???

If what he said wasn't inflammatory, why get upset that she's asking about it. If there wasn't a story, she wouldn't find one. Everyone in the locker room that she asked would just say 'Nah, we got no problem with what he said. He wasn't calling out Plaxico at all." And strahan would have no reason to confront her.

But he did say it, and she's doing what the press does, which is follow up and ask questions and, yes... stir the pot a little.

I'd much rather deal with this, than a world where every stupid thing the players do is hushed up. Every time they flip the bird at the stands, nobody reports it because the players run the media. Every time a Bengal drives around plastered or buys drinks for teenagers would get hushed. Players may start mouthing off at each other and not trusting each other, yet we live blissfully unaware of the dissention and just sit slack-jawed admiring our Mighty Heroes of the Gridiron because we don't know that they are really selfish putzes. I'd much rather see a reporter go beyond the first no comment than deal with a situation where the "players run the media".

So what do some of you media haters think reporters should do while on the job?

Report the news impartially and responsibly. Don't become part of the story.

You've got to be kidding, right?

I don't like the media and what it does at times, but to accuse her of "becoming part of the story" is ludicrous. Strahan's a prima donna like so many of the Giants stars are, and he flapped his gums about a teammate, and a reporter went to him privately and asked for comment. He turned her down, but when she asked the guy who was the target of Strahan's criticism about that criticism, Strahan then barges in and verbally attacks her. How is that making herself part of the story?

Strahan's acting like a little ##### because he's actually being held accountable for things he said publicly. Boo freaking hoo!

If Strahan says "no comment" and she feels the need to stir crap up and get her story somewhere else, than she deserves what she got from Strahan. When Strahan declined comment, it should have been the end of the story......especially for something so petty.

Yeah, you go girl, break that big story by going around players backs.....whatever makes ya' feel better at night.

Players should run the media, media doesn't run the players. It is a power thing.

Wow, I don't know where to start. So if a player says something calling out another player, they can just say "no comment"" and nobody is supposed to follow up on it? It just goes away???

You are missing the simple point that he told her he'd talk Thursday and instead of waiting she then ran to Plax to stir him up. He didn't avoid it altogether.

Do you have any idea how many reporters are in NY swarming any star type? Alot of them schedule interviews, it's a very common reaction.

Well, I guess that wasn't even what I was getting at here....

If it is a team issue, why does the media need to stick their noses in it. I am of the opinion that when it comes to sports, why in the world does it matter if as a journalist, you find out that two teammates are bickering? That goes on in EVERY LEVEL OF SPORTS!

Just because Strahan said it, does not make it a journalist's business to go in and make a big deal out of it. How does two teammates arguing affect ANYONE OUTSIDE THE LOCKER ROOM? Even if it is aired publicly, it does not concern the journalist or his/her employer, so quit stirring crap up.

Are you serious???? Journalist's make thier money be getting stories. This is a terrible arguement.