Pip's Invitation
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I find it hard to believe that Heart Attack Man would outlive his wife (assuming that's who Elizabeth is). Otherwise, bravo!
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Pip's Invitation
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They were married to each other at the time.
My parents (pre-divorce) didn't have very many non-classical records in their collection, but they had quite a few Carly Simon records, and we especially enjoyed this track.
Obligatory anecdote from wikkid that he dropped into my 1971 countdown:
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Good, glad you like it. I am curious what you think about everyone and those feelings of discomfort as you move through the show. I think the show pretty much gets better every season.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think a lot of the uneasiness early on is trying to figure out Don's backstory from odd flashbacks.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
What you're feeling and what I bolded, is, I believe, exactly what the show's creator was going for. I've gone from hating characters to liking them and vice versa multiple times over multiple watches, and I think that's what gives the show so much depth. They ring true across any era and speak to the 'human condition'. To me, things that would be spoilers in other shows, like Don's back story, don't really spoil anything and actually then force you to go back and revisit previous episodes with new awareness. For me, what lingers is the fact that it's set in the 60's and just on the edge of my earliest memories of life, so on one hand I sort of lived and have been influenced by some of the events of the time, yet I was oblivious to it at the same time, such that the way that era is portrayed with detail and accuracy still piques my interest.
Congrats on getting through season 1. They found their footing by the end and really take us on an adventure moving forward.
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Socialism for Dummies
Songs in D Minor
20 - The Killers - Smile Like You Mean It
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Lyric -
Looking back at sunsets on the East Side
We lost track of the time
Dreams aren't what they used to be
Something's slide by so carelessly
Smile like you mean it
Source - https://musicstax.com/track/smile-like-you-mean-it/3KANrKOFYyAxfjQJHkgBdb
https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/the-killers/smile-like-you-mean-it
Sadness Quotient - 5/11 - Doesn’t hit you at first, but its all in the lyrics
Comment - Mr Brightside was a tough act to follow and the Killers did it with style and class with this number.
Next Up - We got back to Germany, with love. This time the song is in English.
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Batman
20 - Underworld - Moaner
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Relevant Lyric -
And the girls are diving
And the girls are up to something
Animal boy thing up on the roof, again
Boy thing lookin' down there
And there's every kind of lack
To make it down to the Delaware
And up in your head
Batman Vibe Score - 3/10
Where to Find - Batman and Robin Soundtrack
Quick Hit Comment - As mentioned before, Underworld were meant to do a joint project with REM for Revolution, but couldnt agree on a direction, so each got a separate song on the soundtrack. REM had the song they knocked up in 2 minutes. Underworld had to start from scratch.
Next Up - if it wasn’t for Al Martino, this would be the oldest song on the list
titusbramble
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That's an underrated track from Beaucoup Fish, which is an underrated album in itself
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I still dont understand how this band did a complete sound reinvention
Underneath the Radar was a massive hit in Australia and South Africa. Even reached #74 on the Billboard charts. Nothing in the UK.
To then see them with what they became was a big shock.
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El Floppo
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Lol... I thought was the same song title by a different band (one of my favorite tunes of theirs).
This is a great tune by any band though!
El Floppo
Footballguy
I'm sorry all, still super sick.. wanted to mention how crazy and amazing it was to hear either Glock or Marimba in a Jeff Rosenstock tune... Musical interlude in the 2nd half
Yambag
Footballguy
Summary: Iron Maiden are an English heavy metal band formed in Leyton, East London, in 1975. As pioneers of the new wave of British heavy metal movement, they have released 41 albums, including 17 studio albums, 13 live albums, four EPs and seven compilations. The Number of the Beast is among the most popular heavy metal albums of all time, having sold almost 20 million copies worldwide.
Times Seen Live in Concert: 2 = 1991 (with Anthrax), 2019
Personal Connection: As mentioned in my intro, borrowing my friend's copy of Live After Death was probably the most influential moment in my music journey. I bought every one of their albums through Fear of the Dark and saw them multiple times in concert. Simply put, they and Metallica are the greatest heavy metal bands ever. For the countdown, I only three albums to choose from, so I went with The Evil That Men Do from 1988’s Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, which was my first purchase and still one of my favorites.
Other songs to consider: Too many to choose from but I will go with Wasted Years and Number of the Beast.
Mrs. Rannous
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I'm thinking chicken soup at you. Alas, I can't send one of the quarts of mishmosh that are in my fridge.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Seventh Son is my third favorite Maiden album but IMO this song would rank 7th from it.
Chaos34
Footballguy
This is as true as I can be to the story they’ve been sticking to for over 30 years.
Fortunately for both them and us, Star Crunch (guitar, vocals), Birdstuff (drums), and Coco the Electronic Monkey Wizard (bass and alien electronics) survived the crash of their interplanetary spacelab near Auburn, Alabama in 1992. They formed Man… or Astro-Man? in order to broadcast distress messages through music to their base on Planet X. Large Tesla coils audiences thought were mere props successfully delivered the coded messages. They received a disappointing reply. There would be no rescue. Their new mission was to tour Earth disguised as musicians, integrate into human society and study our various cultures.
In the 90s they embraced the mission with enthusiasm producing 10 records (a few great sounding Steve Albini’s in there) while touring over 30 countries. They wore their flight suits for live shows because the gear included technology assisting their deep space communications. A hiatus in the 00s had fans thinking they’d accomplished their mission and were allowed a return home. The truth was all too human. In-fighting had led to the quiet break up of the band.
Star Crunch thought the development of the internet made it unnecessary to continue touring to study human beings. He founded a record label/interstellar communications hub near the crash site allowing him to continue the mission online and attempt to repair the spacelab.
Birdstuff and Coco the Electronic Monkey Wizard set out to find his replacement by seeking other earth travelers. They joined bands like Supernova, Sound of Humans, The Causey Way, and Servatron. After a 13 year recording void, Man… or Astro-Man? was back. A revolving lineup through the 10s included Grand Master Useless, Cap’n Zeno, Victor Vector, Blazar the Probe Handler, Dexter X and Avona Nova.
If it seems a bit much, it was. They gave up the gig after the 2017 release. Covid times came with communication and reconciliation with old Star Crunch the deserter. They discussed the vast library of unreleased material from their manic 90s phase. A plan to release it slowly for a decade started with new music in 2021. The band was back again, and last year came with the 2nd EP from the library.
My choice for them, Space 1991, while released in 21, predates the crash as the name implies. I find it compelling evidence that the story is true, but nevermind that. The song and the band have a somewhat unique feature for my theme. Alternating between revival and non-revival can make back to back songs seem misplaced. Man… or Astro-Man? citing The Ventures, The Chantays, Devo and Agent Orange as influences makes them a bit of a hybrid, a transition between the old and new. Space 1991 is a good example.
I wasn’t surprised when Krista reported OH was a fan. Recalling some of his old posts made me consider he too is an alien intelligence.
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rockaction
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20. Punk As **** - Down By Law
I think I'd given up tinkering with the list by the time I sent this in. Usually, hearing somebody describe themselves as [Blank] As **** means they're the exact opposite. In Dave Smalley's case (formerly of Dag Nasty on Dischord Records), it actually somewhat works. I should have a NOFX song here ("Punk Guy" or "It's My Job To Keep Punk Rock Elite," both of which are slightly better songs) instead, but this is the genre theme darn it, and I'm going for a self-proclaimed Down By Law band that is punk af.
I think I'd given up tinkering with the list by the time I sent this in. Usually, hearing somebody describe themselves as [Blank] As **** means they're the exact opposite. In Dave Smalley's case (formerly of Dag Nasty on Dischord Records), it actually somewhat works. I should have a NOFX song here ("Punk Guy" or "It's My Job To Keep Punk Rock Elite," both of which are slightly better songs) instead, but this is the genre theme darn it, and I'm going for a self-proclaimed Down By Law band that is punk af.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
Has been on my short list of artists for a while. Peak Rhett Miller is someting.
Pip's Invitation
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I’m picturing OH hearing this band for the first time and saying “my people!!!”
This is as true as I can be to the story they’ve been sticking to for over 30 years.
Fortunately for both them and us, Star Crunch (guitar, vocals), Birdstuff (drums), and Coco the Electronic Monkey Wizard (bass and alien electronics) survived the crash of their interplanetary spacelab near Auburn, Alabama in 1992. They formed Man… or Astro-Man? in order to broadcast distress messages through music to their base on Planet X. Large Tesla coils audiences thought were mere props successfully delivered the coded messages. They received a disappointing reply. There would be no rescue. Their new mission was to tour Earth disguised as musicians, integrate into human society and study our various cultures.
In the 90s they embraced the mission with enthusiasm producing 10 records (a few great sounding Steve Albini’s in there) while touring over 30 countries. They wore their flight suits for live shows because the gear included technology assisting their deep space communications. A hiatus in the 00s had fans thinking they’d accomplished their mission and were allowed a return home. The truth was all too human. In-fighting had led to the quiet break up of the band.
Star Crunch thought the development of the internet made it unnecessary to continue touring to study human beings. He founded a record label/interstellar communications hub near the crash site allowing him to continue the mission online and attempt to repair the spacelab.
Birdstuff and Coco the Electronic Monkey Wizard set out to find his replacement by seeking other earth travelers. They joined bands like Supernova, Sound of Humans, The Causey Way, and Servatron. After a 13 year recording void, Man… or Astro-Man? was back. A revolving lineup through the 10s included Grand Master Useless, Cap’n Zeno, Victor Vector, Blazar the Probe Handler, Dexter X and Avona Nova.
If it seems a bit much, it was. They gave up the gig after the 2017 release.Covid times came with communication and reconciliation with old Star Crunch the deserter. They discussed the vast library of unreleased material from their manic 90s phase. A plan to release it slowly for a decade started with new music in 2021. The band was back and last year came with the 2nd EP from the library.
My choice for them, 1991 Space, while released in 21, predates the crash as the name implies. I find it compelling evidence that the story is true, but nevermind that. The song and the band have a somewhat unique feature for my theme. Alternating between revival and non-revival can make back to back songs seem misplaced. Man… or Astro-Man citing The Ventures, The Chantays, Devo and Agent Orange as influences makes them a bit of a hybrid, a transition between the old and new. 1991 Space is a good example.
I wasn’t surprised when Krista reported OH was a fan. Recalling some of his old posts made me consider he too is an alien intelligence.
Mister CIA
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For those that love 9 minute live versions of alt-country music songs interrupted by prog rock guitar solos, this note is for you.
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Eephus
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Single (Named) Lady #20 - Rapsody feat. GZA and D'Angelo - "Ibtihaj" (2019)
Full name: Marlanna Evans
Rapsody is originally from a small town in North Carolina. She didn't start rapping until she was a student at NC State (@Tau837 ) but her career took off quickly after being discovered by 9th Wonder. She made her solo debut in 2012 and has released four albums and as many mixtapes since then. Earlier this month, she won a Grammy for best melodic rap performance, a category that I'd never heard of before.
"Ibtihaj" is the only song in my countdown that has a woman's name. It's named after champion fencer Ibtihaj Muhammed who won gold for the USA in the 2016 Olympics. She also gained notoriety for wearing a hijab while competing. The song is a homage to GZA's "Liquid Swords" from which it takes its chorus and beat. GZA must have approved because he takes the second verse. The lyrics include shout outs to a bunch of hip hop acts including Roxanne Shante, Flavor Flav and DJ Premier. I love the multitracked harmonies of D'Angelo on the hook which gives the song a bit of a Funkadelic feel.
The beginning of the video is Rapsody performing on the steps of a Harlem brownstone with some long lime green extensions. About halfway through, it switches to a dark soundstage where Roxanne Shante is dressed like a sparkly queen. There are also some fencers there because Ibtihaj. Rapsody next appears wearing a bucket hat and a Detroit Pistons shirt. GZA comes in and does his verse on a red and black striped stage. The video continues with a mishmash of shots from the previous four setups and ends with some women in colorful hijab unfurling a banner in support of Sudanese freedom fighters.
Full name: Marlanna Evans
Rapsody is originally from a small town in North Carolina. She didn't start rapping until she was a student at NC State (@Tau837 ) but her career took off quickly after being discovered by 9th Wonder. She made her solo debut in 2012 and has released four albums and as many mixtapes since then. Earlier this month, she won a Grammy for best melodic rap performance, a category that I'd never heard of before.
"Ibtihaj" is the only song in my countdown that has a woman's name. It's named after champion fencer Ibtihaj Muhammed who won gold for the USA in the 2016 Olympics. She also gained notoriety for wearing a hijab while competing. The song is a homage to GZA's "Liquid Swords" from which it takes its chorus and beat. GZA must have approved because he takes the second verse. The lyrics include shout outs to a bunch of hip hop acts including Roxanne Shante, Flavor Flav and DJ Premier. I love the multitracked harmonies of D'Angelo on the hook which gives the song a bit of a Funkadelic feel.
The beginning of the video is Rapsody performing on the steps of a Harlem brownstone with some long lime green extensions. About halfway through, it switches to a dark soundstage where Roxanne Shante is dressed like a sparkly queen. There are also some fencers there because Ibtihaj. Rapsody next appears wearing a bucket hat and a Detroit Pistons shirt. GZA comes in and does his verse on a red and black striped stage. The video continues with a mishmash of shots from the previous four setups and ends with some women in colorful hijab unfurling a banner in support of Sudanese freedom fighters.
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titusbramble
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GTA #20 - Soul II Soul - Keep On Moving (CSR 103.9, SA)
We're pretty much out of the period in the countdown where I'm not a fan of the genre and I'm just picking the best of it, CSR playing a bunch of (then, obviously) contemporary soul and R&B. Not my cup of tea, but my pick of it was this one, they're a British collective who had their biggest hit with Back To Life - that got to number 1 in the UK, as well as the top 5 in the US and winning a Grammy, but this also performed pretty well on both sides of the pond hitting the top five here and just missing the top 10 on the Billboard charts, getting to number 1 in a couple of sub-genre charts over your side. In game, the station was voiced by a character played by Michael Bivins, part of whatever a New Edition is
We're pretty much out of the period in the countdown where I'm not a fan of the genre and I'm just picking the best of it, CSR playing a bunch of (then, obviously) contemporary soul and R&B. Not my cup of tea, but my pick of it was this one, they're a British collective who had their biggest hit with Back To Life - that got to number 1 in the UK, as well as the top 5 in the US and winning a Grammy, but this also performed pretty well on both sides of the pond hitting the top five here and just missing the top 10 on the Billboard charts, getting to number 1 in a couple of sub-genre charts over your side. In game, the station was voiced by a character played by Michael Bivins, part of whatever a New Edition is
Eephus
Footballguy
RIP Rick Buckler, drummer from The Jam
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Rick Buckler, drummer of The Jam, dies aged 69 after short illness
The musician, along with band members Paul Weller and Bruce Foxton, had many hits in the 1970s and 1980s, including four UK No 1s
Raging weasel
Footballguy
The 21's
Known and liked songs
Rainy Days and Mondays
Mr Telephone Man
Scar Tissue
The Chain
Spooky
The Lovecats
She Drives Me Crazy
I Kissed A Girl
New to me likes
To Sir with Love
Eagle Fly Free
Anarchy In the UK
African Jive
It's All Too Much- great cover!
Indie Rokkers
Uncertain Times
Chi-Town
Angel's Son
Known and liked songs
Rainy Days and Mondays
Mr Telephone Man
Scar Tissue
The Chain
Spooky
The Lovecats
She Drives Me Crazy
I Kissed A Girl
New to me likes
To Sir with Love
Eagle Fly Free
Anarchy In the UK
African Jive
It's All Too Much- great cover!
Indie Rokkers
Uncertain Times
Chi-Town
Angel's Son
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Bivins was also in Bell Biv DeVoe.
Chaos34
Footballguy
This name jogged my memory and now you're on my list with Don Quixote and jwb for something I'm hopeful for. I kinda facepalmed myself for not already thinking of her. Doubtful you or DQ will surprise me. Still confident jwb will.
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krista4
Footballguy
He does indeed love them, as well as Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet from earlier. Alien intelligence might fit him just fine.
krista4
Footballguy
This is such a true statement.
MrsKarmaPolice
Footballguy
@krista4, @shuke, and @Pip's Invitation, I'm sorry to hear about your dog and cats health issues. I agree that $20k seems excessive for I131 treatment. You shouldn't feel like a bad pet parent for not pursuing that therapy or not doing biopsies on your other cat. The vast majority of my patients are treated with daily meds for hyperthyroidism. Many of the cats with hyperthyroidism also have concurrent diseases such as kidney failure or GI disease. I tend to treat with meds initially to see if kidney disease is present after the thyroid is controlled. It's important for owners to have that information before deciding on spending $$ on radioactive treatment.
Similar story for GI disease in cats. Biopsies are the only way to definitively differentiate inflammatory bowel disease from cancer. Again, a lot of these cats are older with potential concurrent disease. Small cell Lymphoma and IBD tend to respond well to prednisolone and vitamin B12 therapy +/- diet modification. I always present treatment as an option as long as owners understand it is very difficult to get a definitive diagnosis if biopsies are done after prednisolone therapy.
As far as the cost of vet med, we have a lot of overhead. Having lab equipment for blood work, x-rays, ultrasound as well as a surgical suite and monitoring equipment really adds up. We also need to pay the support staff. The techs/nurses who do so many jobs and keep us vets moving don't get paid even close to what they should. People often forget that there isn't insurance that will cover the costs. Even if they have pet insurance, it is always done through reimbursement so the owner still has to pay at the time of service.
Obviously, we can't talk to our patients and have them tell us what's going on. We need the diagnostic tests to make informed recommendations for our patients. We all develop strong intuition from history and physical exam, but I have done this long enough to know I don't know everything and testing can send things in an unexpected direction.
The financial component of vet med causes a great deal of moral distress for us. We want to do everything we can to help our patients and owners. It is distressing when owners can't or won't pursue diagnostics or treatments. We often hear that if we really loved animals, we would do it for free. That's quite a slap in the face when we dedicate countless hours and mental energy worrying about patient welfare at work and on our time away from the clinic. My colleagues are some of the kindest, hard-working, and empathetic people I know. We definitely didn't get into this for the money. If a good salary was the goal, we would've picked a different profession. I've been in the field for 20+ years and this is the first time that I've had PTO.
I apologize for the long post. Ultimately, I love my career and the people who work alongside me. I feel humbled to get to care for people's pets as I know what a gift it is to share your home with a pet. I'm happy to answer questions or clarify things since I rambled on.
Similar story for GI disease in cats. Biopsies are the only way to definitively differentiate inflammatory bowel disease from cancer. Again, a lot of these cats are older with potential concurrent disease. Small cell Lymphoma and IBD tend to respond well to prednisolone and vitamin B12 therapy +/- diet modification. I always present treatment as an option as long as owners understand it is very difficult to get a definitive diagnosis if biopsies are done after prednisolone therapy.
This is a tough one. I took an oath to advocate for animals so it is important to present the gold standard diagnostic and treatment options. However, I work as a team with clients. There is always a discussion of costs, what tests will tell me, treatment options, and prognosis. The plan can be adjusted to what's in reason for the owners finances as long as it isn't detrimental to my patient. Ultimately, it is the owners choice how much they want to pursue and how much they are going to spend. So the people you reference spending thousands of dollars made that choice. I see such a spectrum of owners - the ones that only bring their pets in every 3 years for Rabies vaccination as well as the ones who want to do absolutely everything possible even if it only gives them a few more weeks with their pet. I never make them feel bad for their choices. I don't know any vets who do. I'm sure there are vets out there who do that, but the majority are very compassionate and empathetic.
As far as the cost of vet med, we have a lot of overhead. Having lab equipment for blood work, x-rays, ultrasound as well as a surgical suite and monitoring equipment really adds up. We also need to pay the support staff. The techs/nurses who do so many jobs and keep us vets moving don't get paid even close to what they should. People often forget that there isn't insurance that will cover the costs. Even if they have pet insurance, it is always done through reimbursement so the owner still has to pay at the time of service.
Obviously, we can't talk to our patients and have them tell us what's going on. We need the diagnostic tests to make informed recommendations for our patients. We all develop strong intuition from history and physical exam, but I have done this long enough to know I don't know everything and testing can send things in an unexpected direction.
The financial component of vet med causes a great deal of moral distress for us. We want to do everything we can to help our patients and owners. It is distressing when owners can't or won't pursue diagnostics or treatments. We often hear that if we really loved animals, we would do it for free. That's quite a slap in the face when we dedicate countless hours and mental energy worrying about patient welfare at work and on our time away from the clinic. My colleagues are some of the kindest, hard-working, and empathetic people I know. We definitely didn't get into this for the money. If a good salary was the goal, we would've picked a different profession. I've been in the field for 20+ years and this is the first time that I've had PTO.
I apologize for the long post. Ultimately, I love my career and the people who work alongside me. I feel humbled to get to care for people's pets as I know what a gift it is to share your home with a pet. I'm happy to answer questions or clarify things since I rambled on.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
I’m really enjoying the animal playlist from @MrsKarmaPolice so far.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Oh that hurts. He was ferocious behind the kit and had a lot to do with their sound being as powerful as it was.RIP Rick Buckler, drummer from The Jam
Rick Buckler, drummer of The Jam, dies aged 69 after short illness
The musician, along with band members Paul Weller and Bruce Foxton, had many hits in the 1970s and 1980s, including four UK No 1s
krista4
Footballguy
I highlighted my favorite parts, but this post by MrsKP is one of the best I've seen on this forum, bar none.
We have had a tough time finding a "good vet" everywhere we've moved, but once you do, they are like ****ing gold. But when I say a "good vet," I'm undoubtedly being stricter about them than we are with our human doctors. I think MrsKP's last point is so important, because it is so much more difficult to know what to do with a patient who can't express what they're experiencing. And so when I think of "bad vets," I know they aren't necessarily incompetent but limited in their ability to diagnose or treat, for that reason.
Given the limitations, what I want in a vet is exactly what MrsKP describes. Can I have you as our vet?!?! Communication is absolutely key. Unfortunately that is hard to find, as with many situations I'm sure.
I don't agree with JML at all in terms of my experience with vets. I don't find them trying to push for a kitty to survive at any cost, even if many owners want to go that way. It's such a difficult balance, going back to the point that our pets can't tell us how they feel and what would be best. We do our best, and I think the vets do, too.
I really do appreciate vets and how hard their job can be. Being as big an animal lover as you'd ever find, I still don't think it's a job I could do! So I admire them for it.
This makes me very, very angry.
MAC_32
Footballguy
My heart warms every time I hear the opening few strums to this one. I go back to a time with no responsibilities without a care in the world. I'm a bit of a weeper, surprise surprise, and have shed a few tears on more than one occasion while sing-a-long'ing to this - whether it's on the back deck, the caravan, by a camp fire, moon light, or anywhere in between.
When I'm with my friends I feel home
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
OUTKAST - WHEELZ OF STEEL
I get to follow those great post with talking about poop references! Outkast is one of the rare newer rap groups that I was pretty familiar with and I have been listening to for decades. But even here I had some blind spots, and forgot how great their debut is as well. I've taken a bunch in drafts, so I honestly didn't know where to start for a pivot song so I just listened to my favorite album of theirs and picked something that stood out to me this time that I hadn't noticed before and it was this line that has been making me laugh since:
Yeah, we take no ****, like umm, stopped up commodes
They check off all the boxes I talked about in the tribe post - great beats and samples mixed with funny and smart lyrics. They just exude cool. Remember the bonus points for pop culture references that we also have that in abundance here. We have freakin' Popeye and Tears for Fears mentions in here.
Recommended listening: My personal favorite album of theirs has become ATLiens. The title track was in contention here as well as Two Dope Boyz, Elevators, Babylon, and E.T. Aquemini is neck and neck for me and you can't go wrong there either. Synthesizer and Chonkyfire are a couple tracks there that don't get quite as much play as the hits like Rosa Parks. I find the others a bit hit or miss, but the hits are awesome, so they are still worth a listen. The only reason Outkast on this playlist is lack of albums compared to other artists coming up and I leaned towards new discoveries, and my guess was most here have heard multiple songs.
NEXT: A band from the 90s I've mentioned in talks about others like Collective Soul, Candlebox, and Our Lady Peace. Ones that I knew and loved a couple songs/albums but didn't listen more.
I get to follow those great post with talking about poop references! Outkast is one of the rare newer rap groups that I was pretty familiar with and I have been listening to for decades. But even here I had some blind spots, and forgot how great their debut is as well. I've taken a bunch in drafts, so I honestly didn't know where to start for a pivot song so I just listened to my favorite album of theirs and picked something that stood out to me this time that I hadn't noticed before and it was this line that has been making me laugh since:
Yeah, we take no ****, like umm, stopped up commodes
They check off all the boxes I talked about in the tribe post - great beats and samples mixed with funny and smart lyrics. They just exude cool. Remember the bonus points for pop culture references that we also have that in abundance here. We have freakin' Popeye and Tears for Fears mentions in here.
Recommended listening: My personal favorite album of theirs has become ATLiens. The title track was in contention here as well as Two Dope Boyz, Elevators, Babylon, and E.T. Aquemini is neck and neck for me and you can't go wrong there either. Synthesizer and Chonkyfire are a couple tracks there that don't get quite as much play as the hits like Rosa Parks. I find the others a bit hit or miss, but the hits are awesome, so they are still worth a listen. The only reason Outkast on this playlist is lack of albums compared to other artists coming up and I leaned towards new discoveries, and my guess was most here have heard multiple songs.
NEXT: A band from the 90s I've mentioned in talks about others like Collective Soul, Candlebox, and Our Lady Peace. Ones that I knew and loved a couple songs/albums but didn't listen more.
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jwb
Footballguy
Me too. Totally not fair to vets. I know a few vets - none of them are rich.
I enjoyed @MrsKarmaPolice's post too - our current vet is like her.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Love it! I listened to this album 3x today. As I think about my music then and now, especially in this genre, I am not sure it's overstating it saying this is the most important album. 1988 was a monster year for metal, especially for me. There were at least 3 others I was really looking at while I thought about what I am drawn to now. All the important checkboxes - lean a little proggy, concept album, great guitar solos, no instrumentals or covers
. No question it is my favorite album from the playlist I made, and one of my favorites of all-time. The track I put on my playlist is my favorite on the album:
Infinite Dreams (2015 Remaster)
Iron Maiden · Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (2015 Remaster) · Song · 1988
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Love slow groove at the beginning, then it builds to that epic Bruce yell around the 3min mark. This one is like 4 songs in one, which reminds me A LOT of what I find in Opeth's music. It's all great to me start to finish. Love your song choice as well, especially as you listen to it go into the great title track. My other favorite is The Clairvoyant. Steve Harris
That puts us up to 3 in common, right? Anthrax, GnR, and Iron Maiden?
MrsKarmaPolice
Footballguy
I highlighted my favorite parts, but this post by MrsKP is one of the best I've seen on this forum, bar none.
We have had a tough time finding a "good vet" everywhere we've moved, but once you do, they are like ****ing gold. But when I say a "good vet," I'm undoubtedly being stricter about them than we are with our human doctors. I think MrsKP's last point is so important, because it is so much more difficult to know what to do with a patient who can't express what they're experiencing. And so when I think of "bad vets," I know they aren't necessarily incompetent but limited in their ability to diagnose or treat, for that reason.
Given the limitations, what I want in a vet is exactly what MrsKP describes. Can I have you as our vet?!?! Communication is absolutely key. Unfortunately that is hard to find, as with many situations I'm sure.
I don't agree with JML at all in terms of my experience with vets. I don't find them trying to push for a kitty to survive at any cost, even if many owners want to go that way. It's such a difficult balance, going back to the point that our pets can't tell us how they feel and what would be best. We do our best, and I think the vets do, too.
I really do appreciate vets and how hard their job can be. Being as big an animal lover as you'd ever find, I still don't think it's a job I could do! So I admire them for it.
This makes me very, very angry.
You just have to drive a few hours north.
Car rides with cats are always fun!
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Since Yambag is more "metal" than I was back in the day he had Helloween, and I had
As we chatted a bit, I was noticing how pivotal the years were that he was using for me as well. I stupidly included an extra year, but I think I only added 2 tracks from that year. '92 was much more important for me to launch into more "heavy" stuff and less pure metal. At the time I was way more likely to listen to Meantime, Angel Dust, Dirt, or a few other albums from that year that I am sure are coming up vs. an Entombed or Death type of artist.
We have seen 12 of his and 10 of mine. If my guesses are right that will be 13-10 soon and I will have to wait a bit longer to post more metal ramblings.
As we chatted a bit, I was noticing how pivotal the years were that he was using for me as well. I stupidly included an extra year, but I think I only added 2 tracks from that year. '92 was much more important for me to launch into more "heavy" stuff and less pure metal. At the time I was way more likely to listen to Meantime, Angel Dust, Dirt, or a few other albums from that year that I am sure are coming up vs. an Entombed or Death type of artist.
We have seen 12 of his and 10 of mine. If my guesses are right that will be 13-10 soon and I will have to wait a bit longer to post more metal ramblings.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I'm picturing @krista4 taking a 7 hour round trip with about a dozen cats in a car.
I highlighted my favorite parts, but this post by MrsKP is one of the best I've seen on this forum, bar none.
We have had a tough time finding a "good vet" everywhere we've moved, but once you do, they are like ****ing gold. But when I say a "good vet," I'm undoubtedly being stricter about them than we are with our human doctors. I think MrsKP's last point is so important, because it is so much more difficult to know what to do with a patient who can't express what they're experiencing. And so when I think of "bad vets," I know they aren't necessarily incompetent but limited in their ability to diagnose or treat, for that reason.
Given the limitations, what I want in a vet is exactly what MrsKP describes. Can I have you as our vet?!?! Communication is absolutely key. Unfortunately that is hard to find, as with many situations I'm sure.
I don't agree with JML at all in terms of my experience with vets. I don't find them trying to push for a kitty to survive at any cost, even if many owners want to go that way. It's such a difficult balance, going back to the point that our pets can't tell us how they feel and what would be best. We do our best, and I think the vets do, too.
I really do appreciate vets and how hard their job can be. Being as big an animal lover as you'd ever find, I still don't think it's a job I could do! So I admire them for it.
This makes me very, very angry.You just have to drive a few hours north.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Oh, that explains the discussions in the movie threads. I tell people I am funny as **** all the time.
Eephus
Footballguy
I'm picturing @krista4 taking a 7 hour round trip with about a dozen cats in a car.
I highlighted my favorite parts, but this post by MrsKP is one of the best I've seen on this forum, bar none.
We have had a tough time finding a "good vet" everywhere we've moved, but once you do, they are like ****ing gold. But when I say a "good vet," I'm undoubtedly being stricter about them than we are with our human doctors. I think MrsKP's last point is so important, because it is so much more difficult to know what to do with a patient who can't express what they're experiencing. And so when I think of "bad vets," I know they aren't necessarily incompetent but limited in their ability to diagnose or treat, for that reason.
Given the limitations, what I want in a vet is exactly what MrsKP describes. Can I have you as our vet?!?! Communication is absolutely key. Unfortunately that is hard to find, as with many situations I'm sure.
I don't agree with JML at all in terms of my experience with vets. I don't find them trying to push for a kitty to survive at any cost, even if many owners want to go that way. It's such a difficult balance, going back to the point that our pets can't tell us how they feel and what would be best. We do our best, and I think the vets do, too.
I really do appreciate vets and how hard their job can be. Being as big an animal lover as you'd ever find, I still don't think it's a job I could do! So I admire them for it.
This makes me very, very angry.You just have to drive a few hours north.
Let Toonces drive. Problem solved.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I was nowhere that cool.
There is a pic I have in mind from this era of me that was just as glorious: feathery mullet, Spuds MacKenzie t-shirt, and rockin' jams shorts that my mom made. Despite my music tastes, that was my look at the time.
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I'm a little behind. New-to-me songs from #21 that caught my ears:
simey – train songs
Barbara's Song - Ian Noe
He sounds kind of like Dylan here.
Yambag – Metal songs from 1988-1992 that became the gateway into the world of music for a young Yambag
Eagle Fly Free – Helloween
Doesn't sound like Dylan. But does sound like Judas Priest. And Dylan has a song called The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest. So there.
Dr. Octopus – guitarists I’ve seen live
Waymore's Blues - Daniel Donato's Cosmic Country (Daniel Donato)
Mellow virtuosity, I dig it.
Yo Mama – World’s Worst Superheroes
Mr. Telephone Man - New Edition
I'll admit all I can remember from New Edition is "Cool It Now." But this had a familiar ring (pun intended) to it, as it's pretty much a carbon copy of Raydio's "A Woman Needs Love." And sure enough, it was written and produced by Ray Parker Jr.
KarmaPolice – songs from artists not on shuke’s list
Natural's Not In It - Gang of Four
This album is praised out the ying-yang and I've still never listened to it as a whole. Need to change that.
Don Quixote – Afrobeat
African Jive (Moto) (Spotify) - **** Khoza (Malawi / South Africa)
Sounds a little like the jazz-rock that was popular on these shores in the early '70s.
falguy – songs by 31 different Canadian artists
Here For a Good Time - Trooper
I can see Harry Nilsson recording this.
scorchy – songs by Manchester(-ish) artists
Do The Du - A Certain Ratio
The ground floor of dance punk?
titusbramble – Grand Theft Auto, specifically the 3D era
West Coast Poplock - Ronnie Hudson (SA - Bounce FM)
This kind of sound transports me back to the early '80s.
higgins – Instrumentals with places in the title
Full Moon - Dave Weckl
This also takes me back, because it is the kind of jazz my dad used to listen to.
krista4 – Chicagoland
Chi-Town – The Cribs
The guitar and bass held my interest on this one.
simey – train songs
Barbara's Song - Ian Noe
He sounds kind of like Dylan here.
Yambag – Metal songs from 1988-1992 that became the gateway into the world of music for a young Yambag
Eagle Fly Free – Helloween
Doesn't sound like Dylan. But does sound like Judas Priest. And Dylan has a song called The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest. So there.
Dr. Octopus – guitarists I’ve seen live
Waymore's Blues - Daniel Donato's Cosmic Country (Daniel Donato)
Mellow virtuosity, I dig it.
Yo Mama – World’s Worst Superheroes
Mr. Telephone Man - New Edition
I'll admit all I can remember from New Edition is "Cool It Now." But this had a familiar ring (pun intended) to it, as it's pretty much a carbon copy of Raydio's "A Woman Needs Love." And sure enough, it was written and produced by Ray Parker Jr.
KarmaPolice – songs from artists not on shuke’s list
Natural's Not In It - Gang of Four
This album is praised out the ying-yang and I've still never listened to it as a whole. Need to change that.
Don Quixote – Afrobeat
African Jive (Moto) (Spotify) - **** Khoza (Malawi / South Africa)
Sounds a little like the jazz-rock that was popular on these shores in the early '70s.
falguy – songs by 31 different Canadian artists
Here For a Good Time - Trooper
I can see Harry Nilsson recording this.
scorchy – songs by Manchester(-ish) artists
Do The Du - A Certain Ratio
The ground floor of dance punk?
titusbramble – Grand Theft Auto, specifically the 3D era
West Coast Poplock - Ronnie Hudson (SA - Bounce FM)
This kind of sound transports me back to the early '80s.
higgins – Instrumentals with places in the title
Full Moon - Dave Weckl
This also takes me back, because it is the kind of jazz my dad used to listen to.
krista4 – Chicagoland
Chi-Town – The Cribs
The guitar and bass held my interest on this one.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
I hope this wasnt your takeaway from my post.
In my experience people pay well beyond their means to keep their precious pets alive. I am not sure where the responsibility of the provider is to point out the odds of the poor pet to make it through and how rational the person is to make these decisions.
Every instance would be different.
I have seen the utter devastation too many times where someone loses their beloved pet and has forked out tens of thousands of dollars in trying to save their pet. I feel for the animal that just spends its last few weeks or months, in and out of a vets surgery. Suffering.
I do not doubt the vets are doing everything to help. Nor the owner who loves their pet to such an extent.
I also do not have solutions. Its heartbreaking when these beautiful animals suffer.
We just lost our five year old dog and he was a trooper in his final days. Suffering, but never complaining.
He knew he was loved.
Anyone who suggests this to a vet or any professional is a terrible person.
Maybe it should be pointed out that there job should be done for free as well.
Dont apologise for this post.
It is beautiful and a credit to yourself.
Only people who do your line of work can truly understand the everyday issues you face, but thank you for trying to educate me further. You are there when people have to say goodbye to their pet or face an uphill battle to save it. I can only imagine the distress this causes, but in my experience every vet i have dealt with has shown compassion in these situations.
I really struggle with animal suffering and at what stage is it in my best interests vs the animals best interests. I hate being faced with this dilemma every single time, but i will never not have pets. They fill me with so much joy.
El Floppo
Footballguy
you picked perfect.
One song is not like the other..
I've never really understood the connection of the song title here, but I've always liked the tune and band for their Americana krautrock thing.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I am so glad I read this before listening to the track. Didn't think there were many Beastie tracks I was unfamiliar with, but this was one of them. And your write up fit perfectly with the track. Well done
simey
Footballguy
This song is from the 1972 album Graham Nash David Crosby. Nash wrote the song and is on lead vocals, harmonica, and guitar. Crosby is on guitar and backing vocals. If you listen closely you can hear the pedal steel, and that is Jerry Garcia.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
For those worried about spoiling their Mad Men viewing experience, please don't click on the link; for the rest, I couldn't help but bring up one of my favorite scenes of the entire series, because it happens in one of the episodes between my previous song in the countdown and the next one coming out tomorrow.
It's another scene when the secondary characters carry the action.
I hope you enjoy.
It's another scene when the secondary characters carry the action.
I hope you enjoy.
simey
Footballguy
Ian's album Between the Country is still my favorite album of the last 10 years.
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