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Middle Aged Dummies - Artist - Round 3 - #1's have been posted! (9 Viewers)

There is an AI driven Dave Matthews Band Musicologist site powered by ChatGPT. From that source (answers edited for brevity and to avoid spoilers):

Q. Tell me about Dave Matthews

Dave Matthews, full name David John Matthews, is best known as the lead vocalist, guitarist, and primary songwriter for the Dave Matthews Band (DMB). Born on January 9, 1967, in Johannesburg, South Africa, Matthews moved to the United States in the early 1980s. He eventually settled in Charlottesville, Virginia, where he formed DMB in 1991.

Matthews' distinctive voice and innovative guitar playing are central to the band's sound, which blends rock, jazz, folk, and world music influences. His songwriting often explores themes of love, politics, and social issues, characterized by his poetic lyrics and complex musical arrangements.

Matthews is also known for his activism and philanthropy. He has been involved in numerous charitable efforts, including environmental causes and disaster relief. He co-founded the Bama Works Fund, which supports a variety of community and humanitarian initiatives.

Throughout his career, Dave Matthews has earned a reputation as a dynamic performer, both as a solo artist and with DMB. His engaging stage presence and improvisational style have made him a favorite among fans and a respected figure in the music industry.

Q. Tell me about Dave Matthews' musical style

Dave Matthews' musical style is a unique blend of various genres, including rock, jazz, folk, and world music. This eclectic mix contributes to the distinctive sound of the Dave Matthews Band (DMB) and has been a significant factor in the band's widespread appeal. Here are some key elements of his musical style:

1. **Guitar Techniques**: Matthews is known for his innovative guitar playing. He often uses complex chord voicings and rhythmic strumming patterns that draw from jazz and folk traditions. His fingerstyle technique and use of alternate tunings add to his signature sound.

2. **Vocal Delivery**: Matthews' voice is instantly recognizable, characterized by its rich, raspy tone and wide dynamic range. He can seamlessly shift from soulful, intimate passages to powerful, emotive outbursts. His vocal improvisations and scatting often add a spontaneous feel to live performances.

3. **Songwriting**: His songwriting is marked by intricate melodies and unconventional song structures. Matthews' lyrics are poetic and often introspective, exploring themes such as love, mortality, social issues, and personal experiences. He frequently employs vivid imagery and metaphor.

4. **Improvisation**: A hallmark of Matthews' style, especially in live performances, is improvisation. Both he and the band members are known for their ability to extend songs with impromptu solos and jam sessions, making each concert a unique experience.

5. **Collaborative Musicianship**: Matthews' music benefits from the diverse talents of his bandmates. The interplay between his guitar work and the contributions of other band members, such as violinist Boyd Tinsley, saxophonist LeRoi Moore (and later Jeff Coffin), and drummer Carter Beauford, creates a rich, layered sound.

6. **World Music Influences**: Matthews' background and exposure to different cultures, especially his early years in South Africa, have infused his music with world music elements. These influences can be heard in the rhythmic complexity and use of non-traditional instruments in some of DMB's songs.

Overall, Dave Matthews' musical style is a dynamic and evolving blend of genres, marked by technical proficiency, emotional depth, and a commitment to musical exploration. This versatility and originality have played a crucial role in the enduring success and popularity of his music.

I subscribed to the service because of the obvious depth of useful information made so easily accessible, so I'll be using it to describe the songs I have chosen.

As with all of the artists I have chosen in these countdowns, I could easily have chosen many different songs and a different order for my list. I'm going to post my first 10 out at some point, and every one of those songs could easily have been in my top 31. I just had to stop tinkering with it.

Though I will include some live tracks, I haven't figured out which ones yet, so that is my final step. But here is the breakdown of songs I chose from based on studio/EP albums:
  • Remember Two Things (1993) - 5
  • Under the Table and Dreaming (1994) - 6
  • Recently (1994) - 1
  • Crash (1996) - 5
  • Before These Crowded Streets (1998) - 5
  • Everyday (2001) - 1
  • Busted Stuff (2002) - 2
  • Some Devil (2003) - 4
  • Big Whiskey and the Groogux King (2009) - 2
I have no songs in my top 31 from 4 of the last 5 studio albums (Stand Up, Away from the World, Come Tomorrow, Walk Around the Moon). I admittedly have not listened to those nearly as much, and I do generally like them, so I'm probably giving them short shrift here... but they just don't contain any of my top 31 Dave songs.
I generally like that this is front loaded, but am bummed nothing from Stand Up made the cut.
 
On the morning of May 7th, 2024, I awoke at 7am to a missed call from Tim, and a text message from Shut Up Andy that said “call me when you see this”. And my still-asleep brain was relieved because if it were a REAL tragedy, it would’ve been Steve calling. Steve called to tell me that our friend Brad had killed himself, and to tell me that Rob Warmowski had died of a sudden aneurysm. He called, I think, because he wanted his friends to hear bad news from someone they loved, and because he himself wanted to be comforted and was constitutionally incapable of asking for such comfort.

So I called Andy and he said “Tim’s been calling you. He’s at Steve and Heather’s. Steve had a heart attack a few hours ago. They called an ambulance. They took him to the hospital, but he didn’t make it.”

“What do you mean he didn’t make it.”
“I mean he didn’t make it.”
“You mean he DIED?”

And I remain nearly as incredulous. We all do. As an artist and a friend, Steve was a force. Like the tides, or wind. Something with which to contend. Something to harness. How can you lose the wind?

(During the pandemic, a bunch of the old Tuesday poker players started a group chat to keep in touch and bust each other’s balls. Many of us have friendships outside of our relationship with Steve, but a few of us don’t. They were there because Steve thought they might like to be there. Now that he’s gone, at least once a day someone will make a joke that lands with a dull thud. The clunker can usually be redeemed by typing #MFS, or Meant For Steve. Bad luck, bud. The only person who would think that is funny is dead. Which, ironically, is funny. Haha.)

For this reason, it is probably impossible to discuss Steve Albini the Artist with any kind of critical distance, as Steve Albini The Guy was my friend, and our relationship occupies as much mental and emotional real estate as his music. If he were a hot dog vendor, I would still be devastated and I might not be able to accurately describe his, uh, wieners. (I should really edit that last sentence, but strained, mixed metaphors and penis jokes are very much in keeping with Steve’s sense of humor. So eff it, it stays. #MFS.)


This list is my attempt to introduce all y’all to a brilliant guitar player with a singular artistic POV, one that changed over the years. It’ll be heavy on the Shellac, as that was the band he was in when I first heard his music, and his longest running, and best. I’ll supplement it with anecdotes and insights (such as they are) as I recall them. But I’m no expert. I’m just a fan, and a friend.
 
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Blue October-OZ-
FannyPip's Invitation
The Tea PartyScoresman
SweetJohn Maddens ****ing Lunchbox
Oingo BoingoKarmaPolice
Belle and Sebastiankupcho1
Mitski Ilov80s
The Slambovian Circus of DreamsYambag
The Moody BluesCharlie Steiner
Stone Temple PilotsYo Mama
Brian SetzerMrs. Rannous
Curtis MayfieldDon Quixote
Bryan Ferry/Roxy MusicBinkytheDoormat
Strand of OaksEephus
Dave MatthewsTau837
Mazzy Starlandrys hat
Kenny ChesneyMAC
The Beach Boyszamboni
Susanna HoffsZegras11
Judas Priest Raging Weasel
The CureJuxtatarot
 
On the morning of May 7th, 2024, I awoke at 7am to a missed call from Tim, and a text message from Shut Up Andy that said “call me when you see this”. And my still-asleep brain was relieved because if it were a REAL tragedy, it would’ve been Steve calling. Steve called to tell me that our friend Brad had killed himself, and to tell me that Rob Warmowski had died of a sudden aneurysm. He called, I think, because he wanted his friends to hear bad news from someone they loved, and because he himself wanted to be comforted and was constitutionally incapable of asking for such comfort.

So I called Andy and he said “Tim’s been calling you. He’s at Steve and Heather’s. Steve had a heart attack a few hours ago. They called an ambulance. They took him to the hospital, but he didn’t make it.”

“What do you mean he didn’t make it.”
“I mean he didn’t make it.”
“You mean he DIED?”

And I remain nearly as incredulous. We all do. As an artist and a friend, Steve was a force. Like the tides, or wind. Something with which to contend. Something to harness. How can you lose the wind?

(During the pandemic, a bunch of the old Tuesday poker players started a group chat to keep in touch and bust each other’s balls. Many of us have friendships outside of our relationship with Steve, but a few of us don’t. They were there because Steve thought they might like to be there. Now that he’s gone, at least once a day someone will make a joke that lands with a dull thud. The clunker can usually be redeemed by typing #MFS, or Meant For Steve. Bad luck, bud. The only person who would think that is funny is dead. Which, ironically, is funny. Haha.)

For this reason, it is probably impossible to discuss Steve Albini the Artist with any kind of critical distance, as Steve Albini The Guy was my friend, and our relationship occupies as much mental and emotional real estate as his music. If he were a hot dog vendor, I would still be devastated and I might not be able to accurately describe his, uh, wieners. (I should really edit that last sentence, but strained, mixed metaphors and penis jokes are very much in keeping with Steve’s sense of humor. So eff it, it stays. #MFS.)


This list is my attempt to introduce all y’all to a brilliant guitar player with a singular artistic POV, one that changed over the years. It’ll be heavy on the Shellac, as that was the band he was in when I first heard his music, and his longest running, and best. I’ll supplement it with anecdotes and insights (such as they are) as I recall them. But I’m no expert. I’m just a fan, and a friend.
I’ve been a big fan of Steve Albini’s work for many years both as a musician and a recording engineer. I was deeply saddened when I heard about his death so I know it must have been devastating for you as his close friend.

I appreciate your willingness to put this playlist together for this endeavor and I’m very much looking forward to hearing your favorites and even more so, the related anecdotes.
 
I ended up about with the Kenny split I expected - 17 from his pop breakout (2002-2010), nothing from his country era (1994-1999), and 14 from his second stanza (2013-2024).

If it weren't for Jimmy Buffett, I never give him a shot. I grew up in rural Ohio where country, both the music and lifestyle, was shoved down your throat - and was not for me. Most of it I found detestable and still do. I instinctively thumbed my nose at it and never gave a fair listen to anything but Garth Brooks. When some good country started sprinkling in the aughts I continued to dismiss it, but some of it stuck with me unbeknownst to me in the latter years of college. Then I was convinced to go to my first Buffett show and got to experience what that circus was all about.

As the years went by and the Parrotthead shows piled up my anti-country stance softened. And I can pin-point the exact day it finally clicked - Sep 25, 2021, the last Buffett show I attended. My brother-in-law was part of the group and queued up the tailgate playlist - a lot of Zach Brown, Garth, pre Nicole Kidman Keith Urban, Sturgill, Stapleton, Wallen, plenty of those mid-aughts high points I previously dismissed, but more than anyone else - Kenny. Some of it was vaguely familiar, but a lot of it was not. The bias in younger me probably doesn't let those new-to-me sounds stick in my head, but I suppose I finally grew up.

Now, country music is only a thing here during summer, so as the calendar turned to fall none of this had the chance to stick, but my wife remembered this experience and bought us tickets to an early June show to see Kenny. I didn't realize it at the time, but everything about that day was Buffett less 20 years, including the energy in the show. Then the Kenny catalog began to develop. It was a sprinkling over the last 2 summers, but Jimmy's passing last year changed it - this is the much more crisp tribute, but this video is what made me realize why I started gravitating towards this sound over the last 2 years. His early-mid career music is a smattering of what teenage / early 20 something me would've loved. Then he released his best cover-to-cover album earlier this year. And this is why I've pretty much been only listening to Kenny on the back deck since summer started breaking late April. I've been feeling a lot older the last couple years, but with this sound I Go Back.

Hope y'all enjoy and here's hoping I recruit a couple new pirates along the way...
 
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I guess it's time for a meet and greet with Brian Setzer. You must show cat class and cat style to enter. (We have a velvet rope.)

He was born in New York in 1959. He has a musician brother named Gary, who will be showing up later. He started in Punk/New Wave with a band called The Bloodless Pharoahs. (Don't ask- I have no idea what that means.) I didn't include any of this work on the list. The recording quality isn't as good as the later stuff, and I liked that better. (He's also not the lead singer.) But here's a sample, "Boys Having Babies". (I also left off all the Christmas stuff. I figured I'd save that for the seasonal draft.)

He and his brother started a band named The Tomcats. When they had a fight, that became The Stray Cats with double bass player Lee Rocker and drummer Slim Jim Phantom. You can read all about it in this very convenient article so I don't have to write it all down myself. (Thanks article writer.)

We've also got a bunch of stuff from The Brian Setzer Orchestra. It's weird, but it works.

Given all the Greasers in Japan, it's not much of a surprise that he's very popular there. Some of the live recordings are from a Tokyo concert. That audience is very into it.

And then there's this recording from a Les Paul tribute concert in 1988. Setzer played "Blue Suede Shoes" and called a few other guitar players you may have heard of onstage. It's a competitive list. And he's played on recordings with a bunch of others, two of which will be on my list. Here's Setzer playing with Warren Zevon on "Trouble Waiting to Happen" from Sentimental Hygiene. His sound is distinctive. I'll include more info on the individual songs when we do the playlist.

Hope you enjoy this as much as I did.
 
@Zegras11 I updated my playlist. In a total brain fart, I left out song #10. Now, it will be my lead off single at #31.

Sorry.
Haha... Update all you like.. I will have no idea if anyone does updates or not.

The "responses" tab has a link to download all the info perfectly onto a google sheet.

There is also a button to not accept any further entries/changes, which I will use when we are ready to go.
 
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My list is ranked some other way.Blue October-OZ-
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!FannyPip's Invitation
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!The Tea PartyScoresman
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!SweetJohn Maddens ****ing Lunchbox
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Oingo BoingoKarmaPolice
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Belle and Sebastiankupcho1
My list is ranked some other way.Mitski Ilov80s
My list is ranked some other way.The Slambovian Circus of DreamsYambag
My List Is Ranked ChronologicallyThe Moody BluesCharlie Steiner
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Stone Temple PilotsYo Mama
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Brian SetzerMrs. Rannous
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Curtis MayfieldDon Quixote
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Bryan Ferry/Roxy MusicBinkytheDoormat
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Strand of OaksEephus
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Dave MatthewsTau837
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Mazzy Starlandrys hat
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Kenny ChesneyMAC
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!The Beach Boyszamboni
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Susanna HoffsZegras11
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Judas Priest Raging Weasel
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!The CureJuxtatarot
In Order with Fave #1 at TOP and Least Fave at BOTTOM. Don't Binky It!!Iron and WineTuffnutt
 
@Zegras11 I updated my playlist. In a total brain fart, I left out song #10. Now, it will be my lead off single at #31.

Sorry.
Haha... Update all you like.. I will have no idea if anyone does updates or not.

The "responses" tab has a link to download all the info perfectly onto a google sheet.

There is also a button to not accept any further entries/changes, which I will use when we are ready to go.
That is a transcendant level of smug. I appreciate you.
 
Destroyer

Dan Bejar started Destroyer as a solo project in Vancouver, British Columbia in 1995. Based around the band founder his rakish vocals and obtuse songwriting persona, Destroyer has been in a constant state of evolution since starting out in 1995. Bejar split his time between Destroyer and other bands of note like the New Pornographers and Swan Lake, among others, but Destroyer gradually grew from their Bowie-esque indie folk of their early recordings into far more ambitious experiments with arrangement, instrumentation, and delivery. Bejar's laid-back yet theatrical songwriting presence sits at the center of every phase Destroyer goes through, from the acoustic-leaning melodrama of 2004's Your Blues to the cinematic lounge pop of 2011's Kaputt to experiments with synthesizers and spoken word on albums like 2020's Have We Met and 2022's Labyrinthitis.



Bejar is polarizing. But like that write up says, his albums vary widely in style so you may find some that you enjoy. That’s my hope.
 
Jerry Jeff Walker

I wasn't gonna do an artist right now cause it is time consuming, but I've been listening to Jerry Jeff Walker lately, and I figured I could do a quick list, plus I like saying Jerry Jeff.

Jerry Jeff Walker was born Ronald Clyde Crosby in upstate NY in 1942, and his parents were local square dance champions. 🏆. In the mid-60s he played at folk places in Greenwich Village under the stage name Jerry Ferris. He got tired of that name so he changed it to Jerry Walker. That name wasn't quite right either, so he decided Jerry Jeff Walker was the ticket, and legally changed his name to that. He was in a short lived psychedelic band called Circus Maximus, but left after a couple albums to pursue his folk interest. He traveled around searchin' for the hot folk scenes. After spending the night in a jail cell in New Orleans in the late 60s, Jerry Jeff wrote a song about a man he met in the drunk tank, and he called the song Mr. Bojangles. It was a hit. Jerry Jeff would spend a lot of time in Coconut Grove, Florida, writing folk songs, and then to Key West. The troubadour would eventually get the itch to move to Austin, TX. He moved there in the early 70s, and he would call Austin home until he died in 2020 of cancer. Jerry Jeff fit right in in TX, and he was huge in being one of the founders of the progressive and outlaw country movement. He loved to have a good time, live hard, and perform live. Jimmy Buffett was one of his best friends, and said Jerry Jeff was "the best carnival sideshow performer there ever was." He said Jerry Jeff was like a magnet, and people were just drawn to him. He was like the pied piper, and a lot of fun. His fun and fast living started catching up with him. He could get get out of control when drunk or coked up, and be too drunk to sing at his shows and stuff like that. His friends didn't think he would live long, but he surprised them all by finally getting sober, and staying that way for decades. Jimmy said of Jerry Jeff, "He came through it and he slayed those dragons, and I give him as much credit for that as for writing “Mr. Bojangles.” He saved his own life." Jerry Jeff's wife, Susan, and his kids, have also has been credited for helping him turn his life around. He continued his music through the years, and was the "gypsy songman" until the day he died.

The majority of songs on my list are Jerry Jeff originals. Some are from his folk years, and some are from his outlaw country/Texas years. There are a few covers, and several of the covers were first recorded by Jerry Jeff. He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I think everyone will enjoy a sip or two. 🤠
 
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So gl;ad simey is in.

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Blue October-OZ-
FannyPip's Invitation
The Tea PartyScoresman
SweetJohn Maddens ****ing Lunchbox
Oingo BoingoKarmaPolice
Belle and Sebastiankupcho1
Mitski Ilov80s
The Slambovian Circus of DreamsYambag
The Moody BluesCharlie Steiner
Stone Temple PilotsYo Mama
Brian SetzerMrs. Rannous
Curtis MayfieldDon Quixote
Bryan Ferry/Roxy MusicBinkytheDoormat
Strand of OaksEephus
Dave MatthewsTau837
Mazzy Starlandrys hat
Kenny ChesneyMAC
The Beach Boyszamboni
Susanna HoffsZegras11
Judas Priest Raging Weasel
The CureJuxtatarot
Iron and WineTuffnutt
Jerry Jeff Walkersimey
The Doorsjwb
 
Chvrches are in

Album Representation
The Bones of What You Believe - 7
Every Eye Open - 6
Love is Dead - 6
Screen Violence - 2
Non Album Songs - 10

There are 7 covers included, Chvrches do them well.
I am comfortable with that. Chvrches songs #26-#50 are good, but not as good as the covers.

I am disappointed one song didn’t make the list. The fan made video on youtube is amazing.
The song probably deserves to slot in around the 40s
So I am giving it a moment here. Strong Hand. Watch and enjoy
 
After LA Woman was recorded, he took off to Paris with Pam, his main girl who was with him the entire time (despite there being many other women). He wanted to take a break: just be anonymous, write poetry, etc. But he continued drinking, and there are some reports of heroin (which Pam liked). By most accounts Jim was never into that, but we’ll never really know the truth.

Jim died in Paris on July 3, 1971. Heart attack in the bathtub was the report, but it’s real sketchy as to what really happened, and there are very conflicting reports. And thanks to Ray, the “did he fake his death” became a thing. He was buried there, and his gravesite remains a tourist destination even today.

I tend to believe the heart attack thing myself. He squeezed an immense amount of living into those 5 years of Doors success, and it caught up to him. But it was a good ride, and they are one of my favorite bands.
I saw some investigative piece some time ago about the death of Morrison, and it seemed the most credible and compelling compared to other reports over the years. It concluded that Morrison died of a heroin overdose. His death will probably always remain a mystery, and I bet Jim's spirit likes it that way. 👻
 
So, I filled all 31 spots for EWF. If I was teaching a class on their music to aliens, there are 18 of my selections that would have to be there. The other 13 are from a group of around 35 songs and I started throwing darts after getting frustrated trying to winnow it down any more. I chose the "most favorite to least favorite" option on Zeg's sheet, but it's not really that - just couldn't decide on a theme. I could flip most of the 31 and be happy with the results.

Some stats (some may overlap):

There's one cover.

There are three spinoff songs (of a sort).

Every record but one was recorded between 1973 and 1980. They made some interesting music both before and after that period, but none were as good as these.

There is at least one non-album single.

I may do the "how many from each LP?" thing as we go, but am feeling extra lazy these days.
 
After LA Woman was recorded, he took off to Paris with Pam, his main girl who was with him the entire time (despite there being many other women). He wanted to take a break: just be anonymous, write poetry, etc. But he continued drinking, and there are some reports of heroin (which Pam liked). By most accounts Jim was never into that, but we’ll never really know the truth.

Jim died in Paris on July 3, 1971. Heart attack in the bathtub was the report, but it’s real sketchy as to what really happened, and there are very conflicting reports. And thanks to Ray, the “did he fake his death” became a thing. He was buried there, and his gravesite remains a tourist destination even today.

I tend to believe the heart attack thing myself. He squeezed an immense amount of living into those 5 years of Doors success, and it caught up to him. But it was a good ride, and they are one of my favorite bands.
I saw some investigative piece some time ago about the death of Morrison, and it seemed the most credible and compelling compared to other reports over the years. It concluded that Morrison died of a heroin overdose. His death will probably always remain a mystery, and I bet Jim's spirit likes it that way. 👻
I haven't seen this piece, but the conclusion makes sense to me. Not necessarily that it was heroin, but that there was something else going on beyond alcoholism. I'm not a doctor, but I am a medical journalist who covers cardiology, so here are my thoughts.

Yes, Jim drank a lot. To an unhealthy level. But it is EXTREMELY rare for someone who wasn't born with a heart defect to die of a heart problem as young as age 27. Alcoholics are at greater risk for dying from heart disease than non-alcoholics, but it usually takes until someone is in their 40s, 50s or 60s for that to manifest.

So to me it's unlikely that alcohol consumption alone caused his early death.

He was probably not born with a serious heart defect, because back then, those people almost never lived to adulthood. But he could have been born with a genetic lipid disorder -- familial hypercholesterolemia or something like that. Testing of cholesterol and other lipids wasn't done then to the extent that it is now, so it would have been possible for that to go undetected. And people with undetected serious genetic lipid disorders have been known to die of a heart attack or stroke as early as their 20s.

An acute event such as a drug overdose or asphyxiation from vomit could have been involved, as it was for some of Jim's peers -- Hendrix, Joplin, Bonham, Scott, Moon, etc.

And given his volatile personality and relationships, we can't necessarily rule out suicide or foul play.

Whatever the case, "died in a bathtub of a heart attack at age 27" always seemed too convenient to me.
 
Rebelling was his thing – he rebelled against his family in Florida (his father was a domineering Navy admiral), even telling reporters they were dead.
While not much of a connection (he died before I was born after all), but I’m in Alexandria, VA and he has a lot of connections to this area because his dad was stationed at the Pentagon at times when he was younger. The house that he lived in when he attended high school is about a quarter of mile from my house (I go by it on my neighborhood walks/runs all the time). Local coffee shop also has a painting of him on a mural. Maybe need to do some kind of selfies for FBGs.
 
Andrew Bird list has been submitted. It's my finest work yet.

Sorting the songs was an exercise in futility, so I just randomized the list - but then moved the ear candy song (the one most are likely to recoginize) to the top and shuffled a few songs around for balance.

Andrew Bird crossed my path about three or four years ago. Looking back, I had favorited two of his songs off the My Finest Work Yet album, and for reasons unknown I did not run through his body of work to discover how deep the well was until last summer. It was a revelation in parts. First I came to know his later albums, specifically My Finest Work Yet, Inside Problems, and Outside Problems. I dipped my toes into his earlier work, and while I liked it, for reason I'll never understand I did not immerse myself into these - as you do. It was during the creation of the playlist for this thread I finally did - AND WOW. Suddenly I was finding gems I could not have even imagine, especially on the albums Andrew Bird and the Mysterious Production Of Eggs and Armchair Apocrypha. EDIT: I had created a rough draft playlist a while back, and suddenly I was making wholesale changes. I think I dropped about 20 songs from the original effort.

Musically, he does not remind me of anyone else except maybe Frank Zappa. Not because their music sounds the same, but because it's self-evident that they are prodigious musical geniuses; and if I had to guess, those who know/knew them best would describe them as musical gym rats.

Not included in my playlist are contributions from his first three albums, which came on the heels of his work with Squirrel Nut Zippers. They're heavy on the swing jazz and folk, and while I like them, they don't move me. Also, I punted on his fourth album, The Swimming Hour. It's a fine album, and in retrospect you can sense something emerging, but it could not find it's way into the top-31.

I hope you all like it and I especially hope some of you will listen to the playlist from 1 to 31 after this thread has run its course. It's a ride.
 
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Dio preview, part 1
Born in 1942, Ronnie James Padavona started music young, with a band called The Vegas Kings that formed in 1957. Naturally, his role was to play bass guitar (and, according to the Wiki, trumpet) in the band. The group changed names quickly, to Ronnie and the Rumblers and then again to Ronnie and the Redcaps before 1958 was over.

That wasn’t the only change, of course. They decided to let Ronnie try his hand at vocals. Perhaps because of that, he felt it was appropriate to take a stage name. This was shortly before (but also sort of along with) changing again to Ronnie and the Prophets. What did he choose? Well, to paraphrase what he might have said if someone asked who was singing:

IT WAS ME, DIO!

What? It’s fair to use that once, especially since the Jojo character is named after the artist. But anyway, Dio took over singing duties. Ronnie the Prophets lasted until 1967, where some of the members changed and the group reformed as The Electric Elves. That name didn’t last, mostly thanks to a car accident where guitarist Nick Pantis was killed and the other band members were injured. After that, they were known as The Elves until mid-1972, where the name was shortened again,

Elf
Now known as simply “Elf”, the group released its first album, also called “Elf’. From there, they became an opening act for Deep Purple, which at the time included Roger Glover and Ritchie Blackmore. Elf released two more albums, in 1974 and 1975. Glover had departed Deep Purple in 1973, and invited Dio to guest vocals on a few of the songs of Glover’s first solo album. Blackmore decided to go solo too, leading to another band.

Rainbow
Certainly, this band was covered in round two, but I can’t go through Dio’s history without mentioning it. The short version is that Dio would appear on the first three Rainbow albums, before finding his career pointed in another direction when a fairly famous (>.>) band fired their lead singer.

Black Sabbath
Dio actually had two times where he recorded with Sabbath. Maybe three? We’ll get to that. I’ll just cover the two iterations here rather than bounce back and forth.

Certainly it was contentious that Dio (or anyone) replaced Ozzy. Perhaps it still is? This isn’t meant to be a Sabbath retrospective at all (so that another MA-D can feel free to do that someday), so let’s stick to the basics. The first album, Heaven and Hell, reportedly came together smoothly. But with the second album, The Mob Rules, Dio felt more comfortable rather than just the new guy, and from that, conflicts arose. So with that, Dio and drummer Vinny Appice would split from the group after that album.

Only to come back ten years later, for Black Sabbath’s Dehumanizer in 1991. The reunion was short-lived, however, as Dio couldn’t seem to stand working with Tommy Iommi and Geezer Butler. Yep, that certainly wouldn’t happen again.

Dio
Ronnie had easily enough clout to form his own band by now. Appice came along, along with bass guitarist Jimmy Bain (who would be off and on with the group) and guitarist Vivian Campbell (who would appear on the first three albums). I won’t go over the group’s entire roster of performers here, but I wanted to highlight the start. The complete lineup for this little-known album called Holy Diver made in 1983.

Dio (the band, though actually also the artist) would be quite prolific, putting out albums in 1984, 1985, 1987 & 1990 before a brief separation for Dio to return to Sabbath as discussed above. Dio, Appice, and some (more) new faces would reform Dio rather quickly, starting with 1993’s Strange Highways. After that, Dio would… tinker with their style for a few albums. If you know Ronnie’s history, another chance is par of the course, though neither of them are what you’d expect from a heavy/doom metal band. We’ll get to that along the way.

The 9th and 10th albums were more a return to the established form. Dio had faded from the spotlight by this time, though they were (and he was) far from without his fans. From 2004, the band was still touring heavily, and released two live albums in 2005 & 2006. But the band was dissolving, and there was the thought that this might be the last we heard from them. Or perhaps it was just that some old friends called Ronnie.

Heaven And Hell
Dio, Appice, Iommi, Butler. That Black Sabbath lineup under a different name. They’d toured in 2007, in what they thought would be a one-time affair, with the individuals returning to their respective projects. Then in 2008, they decided to release an album, with the hope of more. Thus The Devil You Know came about in April of 2009.

The group toured, stopping briefly as Ronnie got diagnosed with stomach cancer in November of 2009. The first tests seemed positive though, so they kept going, but it became clear that Ronnie’s health was faded. The rest of the tour was canceled on May 4th, 2010. Dio would die on the 16th from the illness. Appice, Iommi and Butler would continue performing (not necessarily together), but that’s a different tale to tell.
 
Dio, part 2: How this will work

You know, the pebble of a small decision rolled downhill until it became a boulder. I had sketched out a few lists with just Dio songs. At one point that list was a lean 32 songs long. Yet it felt incomplete, and not just because I rather needed a refresher on everything after Strange Highways. No, I knew it would be stronger with the Sabbath songs I was considering. Then my focus changed.

So then, for list, I ended up taking more of the role of a historian. I even considered doing the list in chronological order, but it didn’t feel right (some top songs in the mid 20s because of release date? Or an Elf song at #1?). So part of this list takes on the nature of a retrospective.

#31 will be the traditional intro, a song I might have ranked higher but instead serves as a solid example of the Dio sound and experience. #30-#26 are then songs that might not make a “Best 31” list (though I feel like at least 2 of them would have) but help show the range of Ronnie James Dio’s career. One of these will be a cover. From #25 on, it’s pretty much a straight ranking. A very, very tough ranking to do. I have no idea if I can keep it to 5 bonus songs on the playlist, but I have my 31. Assuming I don’t change my mind for like the tenth time today, here we go:

Sabbath
Heaven and Hell (1980) - 2
Mob Rules (1981) - 1
Dehumanizer (1992) - 3

Dio
Holy Diver (1983) - 5
The Last in Line (1984) - 3
Sacred Heart (1985) - 2
Dream Evil (1987) - 3
Lock Up The Wolves (1990) - 1
Strange Highways (1993) - 2
Angry Machines (1996) - 1
Magica (2000) - 2
Killing the Dragon (2002) - 1
Master of the Moon (2004) - 1

Heaven and Hell - The Devil You Know (2009) - 1
Other -3 (Including 1 song from Elf. I’d planned on 2, but the cuts were too rough. 1-2 more on the expanded playlist)
 
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Andrew Bird list has been submitted. It's my finest work yet.

Sorting the songs was an exercise in futility, so I just randomized the list - but then moved the ear candy song (the one most are likely to recoginize) to the top and shuffled a few songs around for balance.

Andrew Bird crossed my path about three or four years ago. Looking back, I had favorited two of his songs off the My Finest Work Yet album, and for reasons unknown I did not run through his body of work to discover how deep the well was until last summer. It was a revelation in parts. First I came to know his later albums, specifically My Finest Work Yet, Inside Problems, and Outside Problems. I dipped my toes into his earlier work, and while I liked it, for reason I'll never understand I did not immerse myself into these - as you do. It was during the creation of the playlist for this thread I finally did - AND WOW. Suddenly I was finding gems I could not have even imagine, especially on the albums Andrew Bird and the Mysterious Production Of Eggs and Armchair Apocrypha. EDIT: I had created a rough draft playlist a while back, and suddenly I was making wholesale changes. I think I dropped about 20 songs from the original effort.

Musically, he does not remind me of anyone else except maybe Frank Zappa. Not because their music sounds the same, but because it's self-evident that they are prodigious musical geniuses; and if I had to guess, those who know/knew them best would describe them as musical gym rats.

Not included in my playlist are contributions from his first three albums, which came on the heels of his work with Squirrel Nut Zippers. They're heavy on the swing jazz and folk, and while I like them, they don't move me. Also, I punted on his fourth album, The Swimming Hour. It's a fine album, and in retrospect you can sense something emerging, but it could not find it's way into the top-31.

I hope you all like it and I especially hope some of you will listen to the playlist from 1 to 31 after this thread has run its course. It's a ride.
Huge AB fan. I have most his albums. I’ve seen him in concert 8 or 10 times—-he’s fantastic live—-a must see if you haven’t already, Mr.

I agree with your album assessment. Eggs and Armchair are my two favorites.

Looking forward to see your song choices.
 
Glad to see Dio on the list. The recent NBA draft reminded me of him because every time I heard Bronny James mentioned it reminded me of Ronny James Dio.
 
Oh, right, I forgot one bit:

Hear N' Aid - Stars

USA for Africa? Band Aid? Pfft, too soft. Let's round up a bunch of metal artists of the 80s and show them how it's done! I couldn't justify including this, as though Dio was one of the song's writers, he's literally one of many voices in this. Also with a small appearance from Rob Halford of MA-D Round 3 judas Priest fame!
This had made my Dio list after I had to replace the Rainbow tracks.
Great write up and about 10 paragraphs longer than anything I'd have done.
My list has nothing later than '93 and nothing from Elf so interested in seeing what I may have missed.
 
we are at 30 now.

Blue October-OZ-
FannyPip's Invitation
The Tea PartyScoresman
SweetJohn Maddens ****ing Lunchbox
Oingo BoingoKarmaPolice
Belle and Sebastiankupcho1
Mitski Ilov80s
The Slambovian Circus of DreamsYambag
The Moody BluesCharlie Steiner
Stone Temple PilotsYo Mama
Brian SetzerMrs. Rannous
Curtis MayfieldDon Quixote
Bryan Ferry/Roxy MusicBinkytheDoormat
Strand of OaksEephus
Dave MatthewsTau837
Mazzy Starlandrys hat
Kenny ChesneyMAC
The Beach Boyszamboni
Susanna HoffsZegras11
Judas Priest Raging Weasel
The CureJuxtatarot
Iron and WineTuffnutt
Jerry Jeff Walkersimey
The Doorsjwb
ChvrchesJML’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Secret Identity
Earth, Wind, & FireUruk-Hai
DestroyerThe Dreaded Marco
Andrew BirdMister CIA
Steve AlbiniOliver Humanzee
Ronnie James DioMt. Man
 

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