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Middle Aged Dummies - Artist - Round 5 - Lists due by Fri May 9. (4 Viewers)

Think I am at about 25 definite for the Pumpkins. Those last 6 spots are tough as I have a list of about 20 or so contenders. Trying to give the newish stuff an honest chance but it's been hard as I had such an emotional connection to the early songs that 2 or 3 listens of new song just can't match.
 
I had to look at the submission date again with all this talk about lists finalised and last 5 outs etc
I gots me plenty of time. All i have is Otis Reddings top 50 songs. Now to work on the order and prepare my surprise
FFS i found 25 “Rare” songs, 2 will definitely make my list and push my cut down list to 60.
I am trying to limit the amount of covers, but they are an essential part of Otis Redding’s catalog, especially the early Volt/Stax stuff
Could be some nasty cuts.
There are some covers that are essential to who Redding was as an artist, so don't feel bashful about including them.
Otis could sing the alphabet and it would be fantastic.
 
I had to look at the submission date again with all this talk about lists finalised and last 5 outs etc
I gots me plenty of time. All i have is Otis Reddings top 50 songs. Now to work on the order and prepare my surprise
FFS i found 25 “Rare” songs, 2 will definitely make my list and push my cut down list to 60.
I am trying to limit the amount of covers, but they are an essential part of Otis Redding’s catalog, especially the early Volt/Stax stuff
Could be some nasty cuts.
There are some covers that are essential to who Redding was as an artist, so don't feel bashful about including them.
Otis could sing the alphabet and it would be fantastic.

Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa
 
I had to look at the submission date again with all this talk about lists finalised and last 5 outs etc
I gots me plenty of time. All i have is Otis Reddings top 50 songs. Now to work on the order and prepare my surprise
FFS i found 25 “Rare” songs, 2 will definitely make my list and push my cut down list to 60.
I am trying to limit the amount of covers, but they are an essential part of Otis Redding’s catalog, especially the early Volt/Stax stuff
Could be some nasty cuts.
There are some covers that are essential to who Redding was as an artist, so don't feel bashful about including them.
Otis could sing the alphabet and it would be fantastic.
After listening to over 150 of his songs, he does his fair share of butchering.
But it is far outweighed by the great ones. Such an interesting vocalist. His covers are outrageous sometimes

Now to edit from 60 to 31
 
I had to look at the submission date again with all this talk about lists finalised and last 5 outs etc
I gots me plenty of time. All i have is Otis Reddings top 50 songs. Now to work on the order and prepare my surprise
FFS i found 25 “Rare” songs, 2 will definitely make my list and push my cut down list to 60.
I am trying to limit the amount of covers, but they are an essential part of Otis Redding’s catalog, especially the early Volt/Stax stuff
Could be some nasty cuts.
There are some covers that are essential to who Redding was as an artist, so don't feel bashful about including them.
Otis could sing the alphabet and it would be fantastic.
After listening to over 150 of his songs, he does his fair share of butchering.
But it is far outweighed by the great ones. Such an interesting vocalist. His covers are outrageous sometimes

Now to edit from 60 to 31
I shouldn’t be surprised by that, but I’m looking forward to quite a few of the artists, including him.
 
I’ve got my top 25 locked in for English Beat / GP / FYC. Now I just need to figure out how to pick the final 6 songs from a group of 20. This has been a hard one.

Think I am at about 25 definite for the Pumpkins. Those last 6 spots are tough as I have a list of about 20 or so contenders. Trying to give the newish stuff an honest chance but it's been hard as I had such an emotional connection to the early songs that 2 or 3 listens of new song just can't match.

That seems how my adventures go as well. I start with a huge list, but it seems the top 8-10 stand out when I listen to the songs. Then the next 15-20 also stand out a bit more than the pack, and finally picking the last handful of songs in the remaining 30+ songs is the really tough one. It also seems like as we go, I stumble on artists that I click with more and more. Dino Jr. was fun and a tough playlist, but I think I only really started with 40-50 songs to narrow down. PUTS had 100+ as did another artist I am slowly working on in the background now.
 
I’ve got my top 25 locked in for English Beat / GP / FYC. Now I just need to figure out how to pick the final 6 songs from a group of 20. This has been a hard one.

Think I am at about 25 definite for the Pumpkins. Those last 6 spots are tough as I have a list of about 20 or so contenders. Trying to give the newish stuff an honest chance but it's been hard as I had such an emotional connection to the early songs that 2 or 3 listens of new song just can't match.

That seems how my adventures go as well. I start with a huge list, but it seems the top 8-10 stand out when I listen to the songs. Then the next 15-20 also stand out a bit more than the pack, and finally picking the last handful of songs in the remaining 30+ songs is the really tough one. It also seems like as we go, I stumble on artists that I click with more and more. Dino Jr. was fun and a tough playlist, but I think I only really started with 40-50 songs to narrow down. PUTS had 100+ as did another artist I am slowly working on in the background now.
Same - may have to cheat and post a few more than last/first 5 out.
 
I had to look at the submission date again with all this talk about lists finalised and last 5 outs etc
I gots me plenty of time. All i have is Otis Reddings top 50 songs. Now to work on the order and prepare my surprise
FFS i found 25 “Rare” songs, 2 will definitely make my list and push my cut down list to 60.
I am trying to limit the amount of covers, but they are an essential part of Otis Redding’s catalog, especially the early Volt/Stax stuff
Could be some nasty cuts.
There are some covers that are essential to who Redding was as an artist, so don't feel bashful about including them.
Agree 100%. Similarly, I’m going to have a handful of Marriott-led covers because he did some great ones that he made his own. Not going to shy away just because he didn’t write or originally record it.
I know I've beaten this drum to death, but covers are a lifeblood of popular music. As usual, I blame Jann Wenner and his merry band of imbeciles for perpetuating the myth that you aren't "an artist" if you don't compose all of your own music.
So you’re saying KP is a Wenner acolyte? :eek:
If the shoe fits....... :lol:
Imbecile? :<_<:
 
Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
 
I had to look at the submission date again with all this talk about lists finalised and last 5 outs etc
I gots me plenty of time. All i have is Otis Reddings top 50 songs. Now to work on the order and prepare my surprise
FFS i found 25 “Rare” songs, 2 will definitely make my list and push my cut down list to 60.
I am trying to limit the amount of covers, but they are an essential part of Otis Redding’s catalog, especially the early Volt/Stax stuff
Could be some nasty cuts.
There are some covers that are essential to who Redding was as an artist, so don't feel bashful about including them.
Agree 100%. Similarly, I’m going to have a handful of Marriott-led covers because he did some great ones that he made his own. Not going to shy away just because he didn’t write or originally record it.
I know I've beaten this drum to death, but covers are a lifeblood of popular music. As usual, I blame Jann Wenner and his merry band of imbeciles for perpetuating the myth that you aren't "an artist" if you don't compose all of your own music.
So you’re saying KP is a Wenner acolyte? :eek:
If the shoe fits....... :lol:
Imbecile? :<_<:
Not at all directed at you, man. I'm so sorry if it came across that way.
 
The English Beat Family Tree

In England, they’re just The Beat. In Australia, they’re called The British Beat. In the US and Canada, they’re called the English Beat.

They’re a mix of new wave, ska, reggae, soul, pop, and maybe even a little post-punk. Like a couple of my other MAD groups, they went through a number of changes - to the point of breaking up, forming new bands together, and even reforming in different iterations.

Core Band Members
Dave Wakeling - vocals, guitar
Ranking Roger - vocals, toasting??, awesome dancing
Andy Cox - guitar
David Steele - bass
Saxa - sax
Everett Morton - drums

Breakup / New Bands
Wakeling and Roger went on to form General Public. Cox and Steele went on to form Fine Young Cannibals. Saxa and Morton even created the International Beat (sorry, couldn’t find anything worth including in my top 31). Roger (2016) and Wakeling (2018) each reformed their own versions of The Beat in the past 10 years.

This trio of bands were a big part of the soundtrack of my life throughout the 80s, and are a really fun deep dive for me this round.

More to come.
 
Instead of doing a last five out, I’m going to share a sample of the wide range of collaboration and solo work the various band members did after breaking up. My top 31 will focus just on the 3 main bands, otherwise my list would be 150+ long. There were a few songs on soundtracks that aren’t on Spotify so I won’t include those (they’re not that great anyway).

Dave Wakeling and Ranking Roger were like the Michael McDonalds of the new wave / ska worlds, providing backup vocals all over the place.

Wakeling and Roger together with The Specials and Madness:




Roger by himself with Sting?? And Smash Mouth????!!:




Wakeling did a lot of cancer-related benefits and concerts. Here he is with Mike Peters of the Alarm, Billy Duffy of the Cult, and Slim Jim Phantom of the Stray Cats for the Love Hope Strength Foundation doing Strength:



Finally and most importantly, Wakeling wrote a couple songs (and performed one) for an episode of Scooby Doo Mysteriy Incorporated in 2013. Enjoy:

 
Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
No comment :oldunsure:
 
Instead of doing a last five out, I’m going to share a sample of the wide range of collaboration and solo work the various band members did after breaking up. My top 31 will focus just on the 3 main bands, otherwise my list would be 150+ long. There were a few songs on soundtracks that aren’t on Spotify so I won’t include those (they’re not that great anyway).

Dave Wakeling and Ranking Roger were like the Michael McDonalds of the new wave / ska worlds, providing backup vocals all over the place.

Wakeling and Roger together with The Specials and Madness:




Roger by himself with Sting?? And Smash Mouth????!!:




Wakeling did a lot of cancer-related benefits and concerts. Here he is with Mike Peters of the Alarm, Billy Duffy of the Cult, and Slim Jim Phantom of the Stray Cats for the Love Hope Strength Foundation doing Strength:



Finally and most importantly, Wakeling wrote a couple songs (and performed one) for an episode of Scooby Doo Mysteriy Incorporated in 2013. Enjoy:


Ranking Roger with The Clash
 
I had to look at the submission date again with all this talk about lists finalised and last 5 outs etc
I gots me plenty of time. All i have is Otis Reddings top 50 songs. Now to work on the order and prepare my surprise
FFS i found 25 “Rare” songs, 2 will definitely make my list and push my cut down list to 60.
I am trying to limit the amount of covers, but they are an essential part of Otis Redding’s catalog, especially the early Volt/Stax stuff
Could be some nasty cuts.
There are some covers that are essential to who Redding was as an artist, so don't feel bashful about including them.
Agree 100%. Similarly, I’m going to have a handful of Marriott-led covers because he did some great ones that he made his own. Not going to shy away just because he didn’t write or originally record it.
I know I've beaten this drum to death, but covers are a lifeblood of popular music. As usual, I blame Jann Wenner and his merry band of imbeciles for perpetuating the myth that you aren't "an artist" if you don't compose all of your own music.
So you’re saying KP is a Wenner acolyte? :eek:
If the shoe fits....... :lol:
Imbecile? :<_<:
Not at all directed at you, man. I'm so sorry if it came across that way.
I didn't take it that way and thought it was funny.
 
Sorry @Yo Mama for spotlighting Roger's toasting on that Clash cut. I heard it on the radio the other day and it was fresh in my mind so I posted without thinking it might have been in your final 31.
 
Sorry @Yo Mama for spotlighting Roger's toasting on that Clash cut. I heard it on the radio the other day and it was fresh in my mind so I posted without thinking it might have been in your final 31.
No worries. I stuck to just the 3 bands EB/GP/FYC for my top 31. Too much solo/collab stuff to include.
 
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Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
No comment :oldunsure:
Gotcha
Honestly I meant it as a joke based on the last thread - I really don’t care either way, sincerely
 
Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.
 
Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.

I thought about doing Beck for MADs 3 but decided it would be too hard to winnow down to 31.
 
Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.

I thought about doing Beck for MADs 3 but decided it would be too hard to winnow down to 31.
It was, mostly because i rediscovered a few middle albums i had underestimated. I had trimmed it to 36 and left it there a couple years ago.
 
Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.

I thought about doing Beck for MADs 3 but decided it would be too hard to winnow down to 31.
It was, mostly because i rediscovered a few middle albums i had underestimated. I had trimmed it to 36 and left it there a couple years ago.

Modern Guilt in particular has held up very well
 
What has two thumbs and won't be disappointed to hear a Beck playlist?

Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.

I thought about doing Beck for MADs 3 but decided it would be too hard to winnow down to 31.
It was, mostly because i rediscovered a few middle albums i had underestimated. I had trimmed it to 36 and left it there a couple years ago.

Modern Guilt in particular has held up very well
Answer: not Eephus


:oldunsure:
 
What has two thumbs and won't be disappointed to hear a Beck playlist?

Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.

I thought about doing Beck for MADs 3 but decided it would be too hard to winnow down to 31.
It was, mostly because i rediscovered a few middle albums i had underestimated. I had trimmed it to 36 and left it there a couple years ago.

Modern Guilt in particular has held up very well
Answer: not Eephus


:oldunsure:
He only has one thumb?
 
What has two thumbs and won't be disappointed to hear a Beck playlist?

Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.

I thought about doing Beck for MADs 3 but decided it would be too hard to winnow down to 31.
It was, mostly because i rediscovered a few middle albums i had underestimated. I had trimmed it to 36 and left it there a couple years ago.

Modern Guilt in particular has held up very well
Answer: not Eephus


:oldunsure:
He only has one thumb?
My mind melted as I tried to post and think of how to frame it. :lol:

More plainly: Eephus might be disappointed because that album is underrepresented on it.
 
What has two thumbs and won't be disappointed to hear a Beck playlist?

Much like last time with Lord Huron, there is a playlist I've had completed for about 2 years that I won't do an "official" playlist for, but could throw it in for this one IF: we aren't at 35, nobody else has the artist on their radar, and there is interest. I think it would add some more fun summer music: Bek David Campbell (Beck)
I’d be good with some Beck. I know he is a fan of, and was influenced by, the Brazilian Tropicália, and y’all should know how I feel about that.

I thought about doing Beck for MADs 3 but decided it would be too hard to winnow down to 31.
It was, mostly because i rediscovered a few middle albums i had underestimated. I had trimmed it to 36 and left it there a couple years ago.

Modern Guilt in particular has held up very well
Answer: not Eephus


:oldunsure:
He only has one thumb?
My mind melted as I tried to post and think of how to frame it. :lol:

More plainly: Eephus might be disappointed because that album is underrepresented on it.

That's why I'm featuring an artist that nobody has heard of this time
 
Conor Oberst
Fair warning... Its about to get pretty "angsty" in here.

Conor Oberst is an American singer-songwriter and musician, renowned for his influential role in the indie rock scene. Born in Omaha, Nebraska... At just 12 years old, he began his journey as a songwriter. By 13, he had already released his first self-produced tape, and by 15, he’d formed his first band—Commander Venus.

When he was 18, he dropped Letting Off the Happiness in 1998, and that’s when people really started paying attention. Since then, he’s put out ten Bright Eyes albums, two records and a handful of singles with his punk project Desaparecidos, eight solo albums (three with the Mystic Valley Band), and a ton of collaborations, including Mosters of Folk and Better Oblivion Community Center (with Phoebe Bridgers.) He’s written hundreds of song, so it was difficult to settle on any 31 to try to encapsulate him as a songwriter.

Oberst's music is deeply emotional, poetic, and introspective—often walking the line between folk, indie rock, and alt-Country. Oberst has often been called his generation's Bob Dylan, which is obviously a pretty lofty comparison. But I do think (save Elliott Smith) he might be the best lyricist of the last quarter century.

I don't like everything that Conor puts out, but what I like I usually love. "I'm Wide Awake and its Morning" is one of my favorite albums of all time. I was able to catch a Bright Eyes concert about a month ago and it was a great show. They have a new album out but none of those tracks will appear on my countdown (just haven't had enough time to give it the listens).

So for this round I will try and provide more of a cross section that encompasses all of Oberst musical endeavors. It will be a list of what I and think are his most listenable songs for those who don't know his works, and I will rank within that context.
 
Conor Oberst
Fair warning... Its about to get pretty "angsty" in here.

Conor Oberst is an American singer-songwriter and musician, renowned for his influential role in the indie rock scene. Born in Omaha, Nebraska... At just 12 years old, he began his journey as a songwriter. By 13, he had already released his first self-produced tape, and by 15, he’d formed his first band—Commander Venus.

When he was 18, he dropped Letting Off the Happiness in 1998, and that’s when people really started paying attention. Since then, he’s put out ten Bright Eyes albums, two records and a handful of singles with his punk project Desaparecidos, eight solo albums (three with the Mystic Valley Band), and a ton of collaborations, including Mosters of Folk and Better Oblivion Community Center (with Phoebe Bridgers.) He’s written hundreds of song, so it was difficult to settle on any 31 to try to encapsulate him as a songwriter.

Oberst's music is deeply emotional, poetic, and introspective—often walking the line between folk, indie rock, and alt-Country. Oberst has often been called his generation's Bob Dylan, which is obviously a pretty lofty comparison. But I do think (save Elliott Smith) he might be the best lyricist of the last quarter century.

I don't like everything that Conor puts out, but what I like I usually love. "I'm Wide Awake and its Morning" is one of my favorite albums of all time. I was able to catch a Bright Eyes concert about a month ago and it was a great show. They have a new album out but none of those tracks will appear on my countdown (just haven't had enough time to give it the listens).

So for this round I will try and provide more of a cross section that encompasses all of Oberst musical endeavors. It will be a list of what I and think are his most listenable songs for those who don't know his works, and I will rank within that context.
I was very into his music (as "Bright Eyes") when he first broke out but he somehow fell out of my rotation over the years. I'm looking forward to reconnecting and seeing what I've missed.
 
I was serious about this Arabic music thing in the other thread.

Some outrageous musicians playing instruments unknown. Lots of techno in the vibe. My newly discovered guilty pleasure. With a little effort I can come up with 30 worthy of our time. It's gonna take a bit more effort to isolate an artist, but a couple out of Egypt are worth a little research. Research I've been wanting to do.

Afaik no single artist has a library of 31 that interests me. The best are between 10 to 15 deep. I'll save modern Arabic dance/pop/trance for another time when I can mix up these DJs and bands. I'm weird I guess, but really enjoying this stuff. No idea what they sing about but it puts Euro EDM to shame with the inclusion of traditional vocals and creative musicianship. Trip hop didn't die, it went Arab.

Soooo, I think I'll do guitar virtuoso John 5. I've talked him up a few times going back over 15 years. I doubt I've mentioned him in a decade though. This gives me heavy access to Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie. Out of character for me but some fun stuff. Also his solo work. Also also potentially some country and bluegrass, maybe Rod Stewart, David Lee Roth, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Meatloaf, The Scorpions and Ricky Martin.
:headbang:
 
Top 31 caro is decided, so last five out:

Two hearts

Rehearsal during COVID, I love this version as it displays her voice. Coming back as a man

The lipstick on his collar

The ghost of you

Something for Christmas

Hope you enjoy!
Really enjoyed these!
 
I'll save modern Arabic dance/pop/trance for another time when I can mix up these DJs and bands.
Sounds like your next theme to me. I'd be interested. I like that sort of music.
The first time I tuned into the station playing this music was on a late night desert drive, tired of playlists, and the first thing I heard was intense huge crowd noise. Cool, thought I, a live show. Then this band played an absolute stomp with the crowd singing along. I was hearing Hebrew, I thought. A Jewish station? Song finished. At least 50,000 went nuts like they were seeing the Beatles. Then another banging stomp with the crowd going nuts. WTH was this fun stuff? Know who popped in my head and the song it reminded me of? Your boy Neil and that traditional Jewish song he does. I don't know if I should spotlight it or not but it rhymes with Have a Tequila. Anyway, that's the sound and the energy. Had me dancing behind the wheel.
 

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