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I,m Jazzed, Just picked up Anderson in the 7th to go along with Duece & Westbrook.
I've got McCallister and Portis and I picked up Anderson in the 9th a week ago.I,m Jazzed, Just picked up Anderson in the 7th to go along with Duece & Westbrook.
Actually you are correct, and I did see the run. Anderson was the same way when he went for 1,500 yards, not blazing speed but fast enough. My point was that Bell is a 4.3 guy, and FF players drink the Kool-Aid when it comes to speed. Anderson isn't as fast as Bell, but as you point out, that doesn't really matter now does it?Did you not notice the speed of MA during the 93 yarder TD where noone caught him from behind until the last lunge? I guess he has enough game speed for the NFL.Maybe Bell didn't get any looks tonight when it mattered because Shanny actually thinks that Anderson gives the team the best chance to win?
Maybe Shanny listed Anderson as the #1 RB in training camp and essentially all preseason, since the starters will rest next week, because Shanny actually thinks that Anderson gives the team the best chance to win?
Maybe Tatum Bell is a little more raw than many casual fans cared to acknowledge, where speed is the ONLY attribute he possesses that Anderson does not, and Shanny actually thinks Anderson's wealth of skills outweighs Bell's speed?
Maybe Anderson is a heck of a lot better back than Reuben Droughns, and the fact that Bell ate into Droughns' playing time should not be expected when considering Anderson this year.
Food for thought.![]()
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Hillarious...guy goes from an 8th round steal...to a 2nd rounder now. If he runs for 1,200 yds and has 8-12 TD I can't fault owners for taking him early now.LOLMike Anderson will go in the second round of some drafts now. In most shark leagues he should be a third rounder, and in leagues where not everyone can stay current, he'll fall to the fourth.Mike Anderson just did exactly what Shanahan hoped he would do...he just kicked the door down and clearly is the #1 RB if there was any doubt before.
Where does Mike Anderson go in re-drafts tomorrow?
Is Mike Anderson now a possible 5th rounder?
Well, lets go through the history of the Denver running game since 2000:In 2000, Terrell Davis was all set to open the season as the starter before getting hurt. This is the season when Mike Anderson exploded on the scene.Am I the only person who believes that Mike Anderson isn't durable enough to last the entire season? Hasn't he been dinged on and off since the start of the 2001 season? I know he's played fullback, but I find it interesting that nobody brings that up when talking about this guy.
It's McAllister!I've got McCallister and Portis and I picked up Anderson in the 9th a week ago.I,m Jazzed, Just picked up Anderson in the 7th to go along with Duece & Westbrook.![]()
Did you say Jerry Gallo? Jerry Gallo's dead! I'm Jerry Callo, with a "C".It's McAllister!I've got McCallister and Portis and I picked up Anderson in the 9th a week ago.I,m Jazzed, Just picked up Anderson in the 7th to go along with Duece & Westbrook.![]()
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11.10 in FESLFor what it's worth, Anderson went in the 9th round to two staff teams (Wood got him at 9.11) in the Survivor Leagues.
If you were told Anderson would keep the job (I think he will) and stay healthy. You could make an argument that Anderson should be taken in the late 1st round.I wouldn't touch Anderson EARLY.. Too many concerns throughout the year. How will he hold up each week? injury at his age is a concern with the pounding.. Look at Priest now.. Sorry but he was good value mid to late in drafts but to take him 2nd or 3rd I will pass. Then pounce on Bell in the 5-7 rounds. This is the time where sharks no how to react.
From the looks of the above, I guessing you'll be spending a high pick on Anderson's back-up?Anderson did look impressive yesterday but i believe that Dayne would have looked equally impressive and Bell even more impressive.
Denver has played against poor run defenses thus far.
Anderson should and will start the season as the starter but I don't see this lasting.
Tatum Bell is the most explosive back on this team. Anderson will not be able to be this successful against better defenses. Bell has the talent, speed and explosiveness to succeed against the better defenses.
Every year a few RBs look great in preseason. I remember James Stewart looking great in preseason his first year with Detroit.
Stop drinking the Anderson Kool Aid.
Bell will have this job by midseason and have a huge 2nd half.
I would be surprised if Bell fell past the 3rd round...
I think that there will almost always be at least one guy drafting from a magazine that hasn't been following the offseason very closely and pulls the trigger in round 2 or 3...
Maybe even higher if he's drafting from Fantasy Football Index...
Mike Anderson equals fools gold? Even if he had 12 carries for 36 yards last night, that's not what's important.
This was the 3rd preseason game. Shanny always plays his starters for 3 quarters and uses it as the final tune-up of the preseason, before resting everyone in the 4th preseason game and letting the backups battle for roster spots. And what happened in the third preseason game? Anderson got 13 carries in three quarters. Where was Tatum Bell? Well, he got one carry on a play where ANDERSON TOOK HIMSELF OUT to get a breather (running for 12+ yards per carry can tucker a guy out, you know?), and he was very active on punt coverage.
Just looking at the number of carries during the first 3 quarters (Anderson 13, Bell 1, everyone else 0) absolutely demonstrates that the starting job is his (like it has been since June, but apparently nobody wanted to believe it). And according to Shanahan's history, the RB position will REMAIN his until he gets injured or he really becomes ineffective for several consecutive games. As long as I remember, the only Denver RB who has been benched for ineffectiveness over Shanahan's tenure is Quentin Griffin last season, and even then it took a game-losing fumble on the goal line.
For all of those who point out that the guy who has started as the Denver RB for the season never FINISHES as the Denver RB for the season... Denver's RBs rank second in the league in PPG over the past several seasons, behind only Kansas City. Speaking of Kansas City, when was the last time that the guy who STARTED as the RB for the season FINISHED as the RB for the season? I guess now we're going to be drafting Larry Johnson ahead of Priest Holmes based on that little tidbit, right? Oh, and Priest Holmes is no longer worth a 1st rounder, right? I think we should all start targeting him in the 6th, just like Anderson.![]()
Things that make you go mmmmmmm. That same FBG has rated the backs today (yesterday's entry has mysteriously disappeared) and has MA at #22 and Bell at #35. Will that be typical or will MA crack some top 20's?The last FBG who posted a ranking (earlier today) had Bell at #29 and MA at #33. Really curious to see the next several rankings.
I agree completely. Our draft was yesterday and I chose to stay away from the Denver RB's. I just don't buy the fact that Mike Anderson will be the starter the whole year. I doubt that he will be able to stay healthy but, even if he does, I see him hitting the wall at some point and Bell taking over. Where was Anderson on the depth chart last year? He wasn't challenging for #1 and looked like crap when he did get in there. Now all of the sudden after turning 32 and coming off of a season ending injury I'm supposed to believe he's the savior? Sorry, I ain't buyin' it. Good luck to everyone drafting today that picks him in the second or third round.Anderson did look impressive yesterday but i believe that Dayne would have looked equally impressive and Bell even more impressive.Denver has played against poor run defenses thus far.Anderson should and will start the season as the starter but I don't see this lasting.Tatum Bell is the most explosive back on this team. Anderson will not be able to be this successful against better defenses. Bell has the talent, speed and explosiveness to succeed against the better defenses.Every year a few RBs look great in preseason. I remember James Stewart looking great in preseason his first year with Detroit.Stop drinking the Anderson Kool Aid.Bell will have this job by midseason and have a huge 2nd half.
I'm a Bell supporter and those statements don't make sense.He's 32 in a plug and play system with a couple of knee injuries and drug issues under his belt... Shanny should be fired right now for even starting him during preseason. I would want Dayne starting over him if I was a Broncos fan. At least he could last a few years.
You'd have to be a seriously deluded Broncos fan to want Ron Dayne anywhere near your starting lineup. I don't care how good your system is. Dayne's a dog.I'm a Bell supporter and those statements don't make sense.He's 32 in a plug and play system with a couple of knee injuries and drug issues under his belt... Shanny should be fired right now for even starting him during preseason. I would want Dayne starting over him if I was a Broncos fan. At least he could last a few years.![]()
Anderson had a season-ending groin injury last year, but he was #1 on the depth chart when he got hurt. So your history is foggy, apparently.I agree completely. Our draft was yesterday and I chose to stay away from the Denver RB's. I just don't buy the fact that Mike Anderson will be the starter the whole year. I doubt that he will be able to stay healthy but, even if he does, I see him hitting the wall at some point and Bell taking over. Where was Anderson on the depth chart last year? He wasn't challenging for #1 and looked like crap when he did get in there. Now all of the sudden after turning 32 and coming off of a season ending injury I'm supposed to believe he's the savior? Sorry, I ain't buyin' it. Good luck to everyone drafting today that picks him in the second or third round.Anderson did look impressive yesterday but i believe that Dayne would have looked equally impressive and Bell even more impressive.
Denver has played against poor run defenses thus far.
Anderson should and will start the season as the starter but I don't see this lasting.
Tatum Bell is the most explosive back on this team. Anderson will not be able to be this successful against better defenses. Bell has the talent, speed and explosiveness to succeed against the better defenses.
Every year a few RBs look great in preseason. I remember James Stewart looking great in preseason his first year with Detroit.
Stop drinking the Anderson Kool Aid.
Bell will have this job by midseason and have a huge 2nd half.![]()
No, Anderson was not #1 on the depth chart when he got hurt last preseason. He was #2 behind Griffin.I don't understand why you continue to perpetuate this myth. I've provided clear documentation of where Anderson stood last year when he got hurt. He was challenging Griffin, but Griffin was the week 1 starter.Anderson had a season-ending groin injury last year, but he was #1 on the depth chart when he got hurt. So your history is foggy, apparently.
I may be a bit foggy but I know he wasn't winning that job last year. Go ahead and draft him early if you want. I would try to trade by week 2 or 3 if he still has the job though.QUOTE(ffnut @ Aug 28 2005, 09:51 AM)QUOTEAnderson did look impressive yesterday but i believe that Dayne would have looked equally impressive and Bell even more impressive.Denver has played against poor run defenses thus far.Anderson should and will start the season as the starter but I don't see this lasting.Tatum Bell is the most explosive back on this team. Anderson will not be able to be this successful against better defenses. Bell has the talent, speed and explosiveness to succeed against the better defenses.Every year a few RBs look great in preseason. I remember James Stewart looking great in preseason his first year with Detroit.Stop drinking the Anderson Kool Aid.Bell will have this job by midseason and have a huge 2nd half.I agree completely. Our draft was yesterday and I chose to stay away from the Denver RB's. I just don't buy the fact that Mike Anderson will be the starter the whole year. I doubt that he will be able to stay healthy but, even if he does, I see him hitting the wall at some point and Bell taking over. Where was Anderson on the depth chart last year? He wasn't challenging for #1 and looked like crap when he did get in there. Now all of the sudden after turning 32 and coming off of a season ending injury I'm supposed to believe he's the savior? Sorry, I ain't buyin' it. Good luck to everyone drafting today that picks him in the second or third round. Anderson had a season-ending groin injury last year, but he was #1 on the depth chart when he got hurt. So your history is foggy, apparently.
He got hurt early, so I don't think the week 1 starter was named yet. I'm just going on memory, but I think Anderson was leading the competition when he got hurt. Griffin was of course named the week 1 starter, but that was after Anderson went down.No, Anderson was not #1 on the depth chart when he got hurt last preseason. He was #2 behind Griffin.I don't understand why you continue to perpetuate this myth. I've provided clear documentation of where Anderson stood last year when he got hurt. He was challenging Griffin, but Griffin was the week 1 starter.Anderson had a season-ending groin injury last year, but he was #1 on the depth chart when he got hurt. So your history is foggy, apparently.
Why, if you have a system that damn near makes anyone look good and has been proven over and over again, would you want an old back with and injury and drug history in your starting lineup? 32 is the age when most backs hit the wall so even if he makes an exception this year why would you not want to see if someone younger is your future. Not like Mike Anderson is Priest Holmes here either.You'd have to be a seriously deluded Broncos fan to want Ron Dayne anywhere near your starting lineup. I don't care how good your system is. Dayne's a dog.I'm a Bell supporter and those statements don't make sense.He's 32 in a plug and play system with a couple of knee injuries and drug issues under his belt... Shanny should be fired right now for even starting him during preseason. I would want Dayne starting over him if I was a Broncos fan. At least he could last a few years.![]()
Who's saying he is? But Dayne is a dog. I'm sorry, but he's a dog. The Broncos have a great system but every system can be exposed and if you want to see Denver's get exposed go right ahead and plug Dayne into the starting lineup.Why, if you have a system that damn near makes anyone look good and has been proven over and over again, would you want an old back with and injury and drug history in your starting lineup? 32 is the age when most backs hit the wall so even if he makes an exception this year why would you not want to see if someone younger is your future. Not like Mike Anderson is Priest Holmes here either.You'd have to be a seriously deluded Broncos fan to want Ron Dayne anywhere near your starting lineup. I don't care how good your system is. Dayne's a dog.I'm a Bell supporter and those statements don't make sense.He's 32 in a plug and play system with a couple of knee injuries and drug issues under his belt... Shanny should be fired right now for even starting him during preseason. I would want Dayne starting over him if I was a Broncos fan. At least he could last a few years.![]()
On the other hand, if Anderson is the clear #1 RB in week (and right now he is, and that won't change next week because the starters won't play anything more than 2 series at most and likley not at all), he'll be hard to dislodge. Griffin went into last season as the #1 RB, and even though he was spectacualr against KC in week 1, he was awful in the next 3+ games until he got hurt - gaining 155 yds in 62 carries (a whopping 2.5 ypc) with no TDs and a few fumbles, including one on the second to last play of the game against JAX that cost DEN the game - and he was holding the #1 spot until he got hurt.Bell had the job to take in the preseason, and did nothing to make it his. He was badly outperformed by Anderson (whom the vet players love) and was also outperformed by Dayne (who ran with very serious authority, unlike his NYG fiasco). Bell's blitz blocking detriorated significantly from last year & he almost got Van Pelt killed on an ole' block this preseason.I may be a bit foggy but I know he wasn't winning that job last year. Go ahead and draft him early if you want. I would try to trade by week 2 or 3 if he still has the job though.
It's not like he slept his way to the top. He WON the job. Shanny is going with the guy that WON the job and is best for his team right now. He's not worried about two seasons from now. He's running an NFL team not a dynasty fantasy team.Why, if you have a system that damn near makes anyone look good and has been proven over and over again, would you want an old back with and injury and drug history in your starting lineup? 32 is the age when most backs hit the wall so even if he makes an exception this year why would you not want to see if someone younger is your future. Not like Mike Anderson is Priest Holmes here either.
Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me.Anderson did look impressive yesterday but i believe that Dayne would have looked equally impressive and Bell even more impressive.
Denver has played against poor run defenses thus far.
Anderson should and will start the season as the starter but I don't see this lasting.
Tatum Bell is the most explosive back on this team. Anderson will not be able to be this successful against better defenses. Bell has the talent, speed and explosiveness to succeed against the better defenses.
Every year a few RBs look great in preseason. I remember James Stewart looking great in preseason his first year with Detroit.
Stop drinking the Anderson Kool Aid.
Bell will have this job by midseason and have a huge 2nd half.