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Miles Austin new #1? (1 Viewer)

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Played pretty good game today and a lot of targets. What do you think?

Rec Yards TDs

10 250 2

 
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Awesome game, but I generally don't buy into the idea that a team's starters are just the guys who have had a big game most recently. Austin couldn't beat out Williams or Crayton all through the offseason, TCs, or preseason, so I don't think he's automatically the guy now. He'll probably be more involved in the offense going forward, but not the #1.

 
As a Dallas homer, I would love to see Miles Austin start opposite Roy Williams and play Crayton in the slot where he belongs. Austin would bring the speedy outside threat to RW's true strength, which tends to be more of a possesion type WR going across the middle and what not. Crayton has shown in the past that he can rock most opposing teams' CB #3, Safety, or LB in the slot pretty consistently, but he is not nearly as strong on the outside.

So that would be what I would like to see, but the Cowboys' coaching staff has tended to do things in the recent past (ie. since hiring Wade/Garret) that make abolutely no sense in the world. Thus I would guess that Miles will continue to get WR#3/slot looks for the rest of the season and the Cowboys' passing offense will go back to sucking. One more thing though, lets not forget that we are talking about a game against the lowly Chiefs.

 
Austin had some drops so he's got plenty of room for improvement. However, given Tony's struggles lately and the success he had with Austin I doubt it matters who is labeled #1, 2 or 3. IF Austin became the "reliable" receiver today he may get more targets moving forward. In fact, if defenses focus on locking down Roy after the bye, it may set Austin up for another good day...

 
Regardless of the 2 catchable drops in the endzone, it would make sense that Austin would get more looks in upcoming weeks based off of his performance today (regardless of whether it was the Chiefs). 250 yards surpasses both Williams' and Crayton's 4 week totals leading up to this game.

I doubt he supplants anyone because of this game, but it could lead to more confidence from Romo, more targets, more catches, and that's how you move up the depth chart. And it doesn't hurt that Williams and Crayton aren't producing this season...

If you have roster space, I would stash him.

 
This was against the Chiefs. You can bet your ### the Eagles and Giants make those tackles.
i guess the take home is the targets. he got a lot of them. but, the Cowboys are more likely WR by commitee. i wouldnt put too much stock into this performance. if he has another game with this many targets...............
 
The one thing you're all forgetting is that Jerry Jones loves the guy. If Jerry says he's starting, HE'S STARTING...He was gushing over the kid this spring comparing him to TO...I think this will definatly shake things up in Dallas...

 
I watched most of the game and it seemed to me that there was a ton of dropped balls by the Dallas WR. I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes. He had a great game but this would be something I would love for the Dallas homers to weigh in on.

 
Look, Chiefs defense or not 250 yards receiving is 250 yards. How can he not start after that? Or at least be on the field a lot more than he was before?

Only problem is the Cowboys are a very poorly coached football team, game management, play calling, etc. So nothing really surprises me with that organization honestly...........but 250 yards. The only thing more effective in getting Wade Phillips ateention than that might be a baseball bat. :bye:

Bottom line is Romo was looking his way plenty even when his BFF was on the field. It's not like Roy Williams was a "main guy" before and seeing tons of looks or anything. The Cowboys are struggling big time this year, and so is Romo. They are desperate to find a WR that can get something done and provide a little explosion. There hasn't been anything to scare defenses this year so far.

I plucked Austin off waivers a couple days ago and naturally did not play him, but he's certainly worth considering as a #3 WR as a guy with upside.

 
I watched most of the game and it seemed to me that there was a ton of dropped balls by the Dallas WR. I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes. He had a great game but this would be something I would love for the Dallas homers to weigh in on.
Your post summarizes Austin very well. He makes some plays and every once and a while really shows some skill that makes you think he's arrived. However, as you noted he does drop balls and will also occasionally run a sloppy route. He is still a work in progress and would be very frustarting to own in FF. He is the deep threat in the Cowboys offense-which should get him further opportunities.
 
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Dallas seems to be lacking a #1 WR and that's why each week it could be a different guy blowing up or not. The highlights from the game winner in OT spoke volumes as 2 Chiefs whiffed on the tackle. It was a poor D that Dallas exposed and Austin was the recipient of a career game. C'mon, he got the game ball for setting the all time Dallas receiving record in a game.

 
I watched most of the game and it seemed to me that there was a ton of dropped balls by the Dallas WR. I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes. He had a great game but this would be something I would love for the Dallas homers to weigh in on.
Your post summarizes Austin very well. He makes some plays and every once and a while really shows some skill that makes you think he's arrived. However, as you noted he does drop balls and will also occasionally run a sloppy route. He is still a work in progress and would be very frustarting to own in FF. He is there deep threat-which should get him further opportunities.
Is Austin the new number 1 after this game? No but I would expect him to start across from Roy Williams and he could easily get more targets if Roy is the one with the double coverage.Now the danger is that Dallas won't make the right decision on this since there is no way that a hurt Barbarian should have had the majority of carries during this game over Choice.
 
Reacher said:
Bankerguy said:
pantherclub said:
I watched most of the game and it seemed to me that there was a ton of dropped balls by the Dallas WR. I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes. He had a great game but this would be something I would love for the Dallas homers to weigh in on.
Your post summarizes Austin very well. He makes some plays and every once and a while really shows some skill that makes you think he's arrived. However, as you noted he does drop balls and will also occasionally run a sloppy route. He is still a work in progress and would be very frustarting to own in FF. He is there deep threat-which should get him further opportunities.
Is Austin the new number 1 after this game? No but I would expect him to start across from Roy Williams and he could easily get more targets if Roy is the one with the double coverage.Now the danger is that Dallas won't make the right decision on this since there is no way that a hurt Barbarian should have had the majority of carries during this game over Choice.
Between Austin, Witten, Hurd, Williams and Crayton they have a ton of athletic wr's that seem to get open pretty regularly and with the running game going down in flames I would have to think Romo would be someone that is going to explode after his bye.
 
Is anybody really thinking that Austin is the sleeper savior waiting on the WW that will bring you the championship?

He kept dropping balls that were catchable and if the Cheaps' DEF could finish their tackles, he would have been paste by the end of the game.

The only thing I hope is that my rival GM for my next matchup wastes a WW priority on the 'shiny new thing' and finds out that Ausitn is at best, a WR5 for BYE week fodder.

 
pantherclub said:
I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes.
He kept dropping balls that were catchable and if the Cheaps' DEF could finish their tackles, he would have been paste by the end of the game.
Over-exaggerations...?According to Rotoworld's "Beyond the Box Score" article for this week, Miles Austin was targeted 13 times and caught 10 of those passes.

Usually a sub-package wideout, Miles Austin moved into an every-down role as the Cowboys' split end with Roy Williams (rib) inactive. Austin dropped a possible touchdown early, but more than atoned by catching lead-grabbing and game-winning scores in the fourth quarter and overtime. He was simply too fast for the Chiefs' slow-footed defensive backs. Tony Romo showed supreme confidence in the toolsy deep threat, targeting Austin 13 times to eight for Patrick Crayton and five for Jason Witten.
 
Austin just seems to be a gamer. Romo has always thrown him balls, and he's always performed on Sundays. Too bad that he doesn't perform as well at practice or he would have been starting to begin the season. For whatever reason (maybe runs too many wrong routes, or is just an ### in the locker room, IDK) he has not endeared himself to the staff but IMO has always been the best WR on the field. For the recent history of this staff, I doubt Austin elevates beyond the #3 anytime soon unless like this week, due to injury.

 
Wade Phillips says that Austin will play the same amount week 7 that he did this past week against the Chiefs.

"He's going to play. I mean, he played 58 plays in this game and I'm saying he's going to play 50-something plays in the next game too," Phillips said. "We're going to get him on the field. A guy has a game like that and shows that he can do the things we thought he could do."

So Wade, are you saying Austin is now a starter?

"Well, we're going to play him as much as he played the last game," Phillips said. "I'll say that."

 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.

 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
This sounds right.He might have earned more snaps with his game yesterday. But until the staff decides to bench either Crayton or Williams, he isnt getting starter reps. I personally would like to see him opposite Roy, but the staff likes Crayton too much for that.Kind of the same thing with Barber and Felix. Felix is so freaking explosive. Yes, he's an injury risk. But why the staff only uses him a few touches a game is beyond me.
 
Trying to find info on this guy and this is the only thread I found. Obviously last weeks performance was major fools gold but can this guy produce wr4 type numbers the rest of the year?

 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
This sounds right.He might have earned more snaps with his game yesterday. But until the staff decides to bench either Crayton or Williams, he isnt getting starter reps. I personally would like to see him opposite Roy, but the staff likes Crayton too much for that.Kind of the same thing with Barber and Felix. Felix is so freaking explosive. Yes, he's an injury risk. But why the staff only uses him a few touches a game is beyond me.
see post 21
 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
:no: Manningham has been good. So has Garcon. MM could still be good after a bad week in a wind game. Austin is a dynamic talent and the HC just said he's going to play the same amount of snaps that a starter plays. He's in a very good offense with a QB that isn't afraid to chuck it and defenses can't focus in on him. He just put up 10 for 250 and 2. I'd say he's worth a bidding war if he is available but maybe you are waiting for something better like.....????
 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
:confused: Manningham has been good. So has Garcon. MM could still be good after a bad week in a wind game. Austin is a dynamic talent and the HC just said he's going to play the same amount of snaps that a starter plays. He's in a very good offense with a QB that isn't afraid to chuck it and defenses can't focus in on him. He just put up 10 for 250 and 2. I'd say he's worth a bidding war if he is available but maybe you are waiting for something better like.....????
Manningham has dropped more balls than he has caught since his breakout game. If you started Garcon on Sunday night, well, you didn't get much. Wayne, Clark, Collie, Addai - then Garcon - in that order. So if you like 5th in progression guys, go for it. Not saying Manning (and other QB's) won't exploit coverages/matchups, just sayin' it's unreasonable to expect these guys to be consistent - at all.
 
I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes.
He kept dropping balls that were catchable and if the Cheaps' DEF could finish their tackles, he would have been paste by the end of the game.
Over-exaggerations...?According to Rotoworld's "Beyond the Box Score" article for this week, Miles Austin was targeted 13 times and caught 10 of those passes.

Usually a sub-package wideout, Miles Austin moved into an every-down role as the Cowboys' split end with Roy Williams (rib) inactive. Austin dropped a possible touchdown early, but more than atoned by catching lead-grabbing and game-winning scores in the fourth quarter and overtime. He was simply too fast for the Chiefs' slow-footed defensive backs. Tony Romo showed supreme confidence in the toolsy deep threat, targeting Austin 13 times to eight for Patrick Crayton and five for Jason Witten.
That seems way off. He definitely dropped a td pass (maybe 2), I remember bobbling a pass near the sidelines and I am sure there were others. I understand he caught 10 balls but I am telling you I watched the majority of the game and it seemed like he should have caught more. I am not saying he is bad, I would have loved to get him in my league.
 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
This sounds right.He might have earned more snaps with his game yesterday. But until the staff decides to bench either Crayton or Williams, he isnt getting starter reps. I personally would like to see him opposite Roy, but the staff likes Crayton too much for that.Kind of the same thing with Barber and Felix. Felix is so freaking explosive. Yes, he's an injury risk. But why the staff only uses him a few touches a game is beyond me.
Can't remember if it was yesterday or Monday, but during his press conference, Wade Phillips said that Austin was in on something like 55 offensive plays on Sunday. He refused to go so far as to say that Austin had taken Crayton's job from him, but he did say that he would be getting "at least as many snaps as he did in Kansas City" in future games, and that his performance had earned him it. Phillips also said he would be making sure to get him on the field, whether it is as a flanker, slot reciever...I'm in the camp of won't believe it until I see it, but at least the coach is saying he's going to get starter's reps.
 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
:shrug: Manningham has been good. So has Garcon. MM could still be good after a bad week in a wind game. Austin is a dynamic talent and the HC just said he's going to play the same amount of snaps that a starter plays. He's in a very good offense with a QB that isn't afraid to chuck it and defenses can't focus in on him. He just put up 10 for 250 and 2. I'd say he's worth a bidding war if he is available but maybe you are waiting for something better like.....????
Manningham has dropped more balls than he has caught since his breakout game. If you started Garcon on Sunday night, well, you didn't get much. Wayne, Clark, Collie, Addai - then Garcon - in that order. So if you like 5th in progression guys, go for it. Not saying Manning (and other QB's) won't exploit coverages/matchups, just sayin' it's unreasonable to expect these guys to be consistent - at all.
What if you started Manningham last week? Or Garcon the weeks prior? That's really not what I was getting at anyway. What I am saying is, what are you waiting for that is still available on the waiver wire? In my FFPC league I see maybe 3 breakout candidates left on the waiver wire that only get a chance if the starter in front of them gets seriously injured. The odds of that happening for any of them are not very good and even if it does, there is no guarantee that they will, in fact, "breakout". IF Austin is still available, it doesn't get much better on waivers.
 
I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes.
He kept dropping balls that were catchable and if the Cheaps' DEF could finish their tackles, he would have been paste by the end of the game.
Over-exaggerations...?According to Rotoworld's "Beyond the Box Score" article for this week, Miles Austin was targeted 13 times and caught 10 of those passes.

Usually a sub-package wideout, Miles Austin moved into an every-down role as the Cowboys' split end with Roy Williams (rib) inactive. Austin dropped a possible touchdown early, but more than atoned by catching lead-grabbing and game-winning scores in the fourth quarter and overtime. He was simply too fast for the Chiefs' slow-footed defensive backs. Tony Romo showed supreme confidence in the toolsy deep threat, targeting Austin 13 times to eight for Patrick Crayton and five for Jason Witten.
That seems way off. He definitely dropped a td pass (maybe 2), I remember bobbling a pass near the sidelines and I am sure there were others. I understand he caught 10 balls but I am telling you I watched the majority of the game and it seemed like he should have caught more. I am not saying he is bad, I would have loved to get him in my league.
According to FBG, he had 15 targets for the game, so 5 were drops/bad throws.
 
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
:D Manningham has been good. So has Garcon. MM could still be good after a bad week in a wind game. Austin is a dynamic talent and the HC just said he's going to play the same amount of snaps that a starter plays. He's in a very good offense with a QB that isn't afraid to chuck it and defenses can't focus in on him. He just put up 10 for 250 and 2. I'd say he's worth a bidding war if he is available but maybe you are waiting for something better like.....????
Manningham has dropped more balls than he has caught since his breakout game. If you started Garcon on Sunday night, well, you didn't get much. Wayne, Clark, Collie, Addai - then Garcon - in that order. So if you like 5th in progression guys, go for it. Not saying Manning (and other QB's) won't exploit coverages/matchups, just sayin' it's unreasonable to expect these guys to be consistent - at all.
What if you started Manningham last week? Or Garcon the weeks prior? That's really not what I was getting at anyway. What I am saying is, what are you waiting for that is still available on the waiver wire? In my FFPC league I see maybe 3 breakout candidates left on the waiver wire that only get a chance if the starter in front of them gets seriously injured. The odds of that happening for any of them are not very good and even if it does, there is no guarantee that they will, in fact, "breakout". IF Austin is still available, it doesn't get much better on waivers.
:unsure: I will take a WR with superior size and speed that is going to get 50-55 reps. Romo obviously trusts him. Is he going to catch every pass that comes his way? No but any one that he does catch can go for a TD.
 
LarryAllen said:
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
This sounds right.He might have earned more snaps with his game yesterday. But until the staff decides to bench either Crayton or Williams, he isnt getting starter reps. I personally would like to see him opposite Roy, but the staff likes Crayton too much for that.Kind of the same thing with Barber and Felix. Felix is so freaking explosive. Yes, he's an injury risk. But why the staff only uses him a few touches a game is beyond me.
Can't remember if it was yesterday or Monday, but during his press conference, Wade Phillips said that Austin was in on something like 55 offensive plays on Sunday. He refused to go so far as to say that Austin had taken Crayton's job from him, but he did say that he would be getting "at least as many snaps as he did in Kansas City" in future games, and that his performance had earned him it. Phillips also said he would be making sure to get him on the field, whether it is as a flanker, slot reciever...I'm in the camp of won't believe it until I see it, but at least the coach is saying he's going to get starter's reps.
I hope you're right. This team needs some explosive players. Austin is. Felix is. For that matter, so is Bennett. But each has some other issues. Austin drops balls more frequently than either Crayton or Roy. Also his route running isnt as consistent as the other 2. Felix, we know about his health problems. He also really lacks in pass blocking. I havent figured out why Bennett isnt getting the ball more. Maybe still not reading the same things as Romo, so not getting trusted to be where he's expected.
 
pantherclub said:
I know Hurd, Crayton and Miles each dropped a TD pass and it seemed like Miles dropped a ton more balls but Romo keep force feeding him passes.
He kept dropping balls that were catchable and if the Cheaps' DEF could finish their tackles, he would have been paste by the end of the game.
Over-exaggerations...?According to Rotoworld's "Beyond the Box Score" article for this week, Miles Austin was targeted 13 times and caught 10 of those passes.

Usually a sub-package wideout, Miles Austin moved into an every-down role as the Cowboys' split end with Roy Williams (rib) inactive. Austin dropped a possible touchdown early, but more than atoned by catching lead-grabbing and game-winning scores in the fourth quarter and overtime. He was simply too fast for the Chiefs' slow-footed defensive backs. Tony Romo showed supreme confidence in the toolsy deep threat, targeting Austin 13 times to eight for Patrick Crayton and five for Jason Witten.
That seems way off. He definitely dropped a td pass (maybe 2), I remember bobbling a pass near the sidelines and I am sure there were others. I understand he caught 10 balls but I am telling you I watched the majority of the game and it seemed like he should have caught more. I am not saying he is bad, I would have loved to get him in my league.
I saw him drop 2.....and Romo kept going to him....Romo must have confidence in him, and he likes to go to him near the GL.
 
I am hearing a lot about Miles's drops but what is getting lost in the conversation is that the two TD drops were not "in your hand Braylon Edwards drops". THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SPECTACULAR CATCHES for anyone to have caught. Also, most importantly, no one has mentioned that catch he had one on one with the DB where he out jumped and out fought the DB for the ball and held on through the awkward fall to the ground. That was A GREAT CATCH.

 
I dont understand peeps still sleeping on Austin.

Dude is young, has great size, demonstrated great strength and balance, and can flat out fly. Not to mention, he does not have a true WR1 on the roster to compete with. He dropped a few - so did a young (and old) Terell Owens. That was his first career start, and he broke a Cowboy record. There are some pretty good WRs that have played for Dallas over the years. This was his FIRST start.

The upside is clearly there.

If he is still on your wiaver wire, what on earth are you waiting for? Another 250 yard game? It's about being ahead of the curve. Chances are, last week was the week to be ahead of the curve on Austin, but if he is still available I think it is a mistake to not add him immediately.

 
LarryAllen said:
He'll fall into the same waiver wire receiver of the week trap as the rest. Manningham. Garcon. Mossawhatever. Now Austin. Sound familiar? Feast or famine - only guarantee is they will starve in your lineup and feast on your bench. But we'll have an 8 way bidding war in our league for him this week. I won't be one of 'em.
This sounds right.He might have earned more snaps with his game yesterday. But until the staff decides to bench either Crayton or Williams, he isnt getting starter reps. I personally would like to see him opposite Roy, but the staff likes Crayton too much for that.

Kind of the same thing with Barber and Felix. Felix is so freaking explosive. Yes, he's an injury risk. But why the staff only uses him a few touches a game is beyond me.
Can't remember if it was yesterday or Monday, but during his press conference, Wade Phillips said that Austin was in on something like 55 offensive plays on Sunday. He refused to go so far as to say that Austin had taken Crayton's job from him, but he did say that he would be getting "at least as many snaps as he did in Kansas City" in future games, and that his performance had earned him it. Phillips also said he would be making sure to get him on the field, whether it is as a flanker, slot reciever...I'm in the camp of won't believe it until I see it, but at least the coach is saying he's going to get starter's reps.
I hope you're right. This team needs some explosive players. Austin is. Felix is. For that matter, so is Bennett. But each has some other issues. Austin drops balls more frequently than either Crayton or Roy. Also his route running isnt as consistent as the other 2. Felix, we know about his health problems. He also really lacks in pass blocking. I havent figured out why Bennett isnt getting the ball more. Maybe still not reading the same things as Romo, so not getting trusted to be where he's expected.
You don't have to hope Ridgelake. I posted the quote on post #21.Wade Phillips says that Austin will play the same amount week 7 that he did this past week against the Chiefs.

"He's going to play. I mean, he played 58 plays in this game and I'm saying he's going to play 50-something plays in the next game too," Phillips said. "We're going to get him on the field. A guy has a game like that and shows that he can do the things we thought he could do."

So Wade, are you saying Austin is now a starter?

"Well, we're going to play him as much as he played the last game," Phillips said. "I'll say that."

Another big clue that Austin will be at least the #2 WR.

Dallas signed veteran return specialist Allan Rossum today.

Miles Austin is Dallas's normal kick off returner but they didn't use him in that role against KC because he was starting and they didn't want to wear him out or risk him being injured. The replacements that we had in that role against KC didn't play very well.

Rossum is also expected to replace Crayton as the punt return specialist.

 
You don't have to hope Ridgelake. I posted the quote on post #21.

Wade Phillips says that Austin will play the same amount week 7 that he did this past week against the Chiefs.

"He's going to play. I mean, he played 58 plays in this game and I'm saying he's going to play 50-something plays in the next game too," Phillips said. "We're going to get him on the field. A guy has a game like that and shows that he can do the things we thought he could do."

So Wade, are you saying Austin is now a starter?

"Well, we're going to play him as much as he played the last game," Phillips said. "I'll say that."

Another big clue that Austin will be at least the #2 WR.

Dallas signed veteran return specialist Allan Rossum today.

Miles Austin is Dallas's normal kick off returner but they didn't use him in that role against KC because he was starting and they didn't want to wear him out or risk him being injured. The replacements that we had in that role against KC didn't play very well.

Rossum is also expected to replace Crayton as the punt return specialist.
I know what Wade said. And I also know who controls the offense. And it isnt Wade. I really fail to see how signing Rossum to be the punt returner has anything to do with Crayton and Austin at wideout. Totally un-related moves.

I'm not trying to be negative or contrarian here. I want Austin to play more. He adds a diminsion this team really needs. But him getting starter reps when both Crayton and Roy are healthy is something that I kind of have to see to believe.

 
I'm not trying to be negative or contrarian here. I want Austin to play more. He adds a diminsion this team really needs. But him getting starter reps when both Crayton and Roy are healthy is something that I kind of have to see to believe.
They can't possibly be that stupid. I hope you're wrong. They may not demote Crayton from starter status after one game, but I expect Austin to see more snaps and way more targets. I think Romo would demand Miles be on the field. No one else gets open consistently.
 
You don't have to hope Ridgelake. I posted the quote on post #21.

Wade Phillips says that Austin will play the same amount week 7 that he did this past week against the Chiefs.

"He's going to play. I mean, he played 58 plays in this game and I'm saying he's going to play 50-something plays in the next game too," Phillips said. "We're going to get him on the field. A guy has a game like that and shows that he can do the things we thought he could do."

So Wade, are you saying Austin is now a starter?

"Well, we're going to play him as much as he played the last game," Phillips said. "I'll say that."

Another big clue that Austin will be at least the #2 WR.

Dallas signed veteran return specialist Allan Rossum today.

Miles Austin is Dallas's normal kick off returner but they didn't use him in that role against KC because he was starting and they didn't want to wear him out or risk him being injured. The replacements that we had in that role against KC didn't play very well.

Rossum is also expected to replace Crayton as the punt return specialist.
I know what Wade said. And I also know who controls the offense. And it isnt Wade.
You're right. The guy who really controls that offense is the guy who writes everyone's checks, is the first open mouth about player and personnel moves and who has compared Austin to T.O. in terms of physical and athletic ability.You think Jones is going to sit back quietly and allow Austin to languish on the bench now? I'm no homer but I see Jones as just a half step below Al Davis when it comes to interfering with his HC and OC.

If anything, I think the Wade statement probably confirms that the call came down from above that Austin needs to see significantly more PT. Who on the staff has the balls to cross Jerry?

 
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Miles Austin is the new Massoquoi
Austin has shown flashes of his ability before this past Sunday. He had a decent end to the 2008 season with 2 or 3 TDs, and had a 40+ yard TD earlier this season. He is young, and has all of the tangibles that you look for in a stud WR - speed, size, strength. Maybe he needs to work on his hands - but so do a lot of stud WRs. Maybe he has to work on his route running (?), but that is something he can learn to do better. The fact is, the first time he got into the starting lineup, be blew up the Cowboys all time receiving record, and had the best receiving performance by a WR that I can remember since Flipper Anderson in 1989, including a dramatic 60 yard OT TD to win the game.Massaquoi has had one good game, and then a game where his team completed 2 total passes. He still might wind up being fantasy-relevant. This is just a strange comparison.
 
Miles Austin is the new Massoquoi
Except hes not a rookiePlays for a better team/qbhas more yards/catchesbut yeah I see how similar they are.Good posting there Roy Williams owner
:wub: Austin to Massaquoi is sorta like comparing Beanie Wells to Mendenhall for me. Beanie may not get a real shot at the starting gig this year. He might, but he also may not. And that would be OK as long as it served the team's best interests. Mendenhall made lots of mistakes and also got hurt in year one. But in year two, there's no excuse for the team or Mendy to NOT find out if it is going to work out or not. For a rookie (especially WR), there are plenty of legitimate excuses for inconsistency, mistakes, etc. This is Austin's chance to show what he is/is not. He knows it. No excuses apply to him, unlike Massaquoi. This is Dallas' chance to find out what they have in him. I think they both give this a full effort to work. Dallas has nothing to lose - they need to ride the hot hand so to speak. They need the spark.
 
Miles Austin is the new Massoquoi
Except hes not a rookiePlays for a better team/qbhas more yards/catchesbut yeah I see how similar they are.Good posting there Roy Williams owner
Not a Williams owner and don't own anyone on the Dallas offense. The comparison has to do with him being a flash in the pan and waiver wire darling. Teams will get film, rotate coverage and Miles Austin will disappear ala Massoquoi. It was one great game vs. probably the worst team in the NFL.
 
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Miles Austin is the new Massoquoi
Except hes not a rookiePlays for a better team/qbhas more yards/catchesbut yeah I see how similar they are.Good posting there Roy Williams owner
Not a Williams owner and don't own anyone on the Dallas offense. The comparison has to do with him being a flash in the pan and waiver wire darling. Teams will get film, rotate coverage and Miles Austin will disappear ala Massoquoi. It was one great game vs. probably the worst team in the NFL.
:rolleyes: the DEF shut Massa down huh? they rotated coverage and locked him down...that's what happened? He still accounted for 70% of CLE recieving ydg and caught 50% of his QB's completed passes....I think that game had a little more to do with a QB that completed 2 passes for 23yds in the whole game. I don't own the guy, but I think you're jumping to conclusions on this one.I'm not a firm believer that any WR1 just jumps off the waiver wire....but either may be servicable going forward. They'll slide Crayton into the slot and Austin will see more PT, but lets not crown him yet. Out of the three WW darlings, Austin, Maclin, and Massa...I think Maclin has the potential to produce the most on a regular basis.
 
Miles Austin is the new Massoquoi
Except hes not a rookiePlays for a better team/qb

has more yards/catches

but yeah I see how similar they are.

Good posting there Roy Williams owner
Not a Williams owner and don't own anyone on the Dallas offense. The comparison has to do with him being a flash in the pan and waiver wire darling. Teams will get film, rotate coverage and Miles Austin will disappear ala Massoquoi. It was one great game vs. probably the worst team in the NFL.
I dunno - Miles Austin was a WW darling for dynasty teams last year, and was definitely seen as potential breakout breakout material this season. He was available in very few dynasty leagues over the offseason - I know I rostered him over the offseason in any league I had him in. Jerry Jones essentially said they let TO go because of the potential of Miles Austin. Not that anyone really expected/counted on this type of game, but it's not like he came out of nowhere, either.
 
Miles Austin is the new Massoquoi
Except hes not a rookiePlays for a better team/qbhas more yards/catchesbut yeah I see how similar they are.Good posting there Roy Williams owner
Not a Williams owner and don't own anyone on the Dallas offense. The comparison has to do with him being a flash in the pan and waiver wire darling. Teams will get film, rotate coverage and Miles Austin will disappear ala Massoquoi. It was one great game vs. probably the worst team in the NFL.
:thumbdown: the DEF shut Massa down huh? they rotated coverage and locked him down...that's what happened? He still accounted for 70% of CLE recieving ydg and caught 50% of his QB's completed passes....I think that game had a little more to do with a QB that completed 2 passes for 23yds in the whole game. I don't own the guy, but I think you're jumping to conclusions on this one.I'm not a firm believer that any WR1 just jumps off the waiver wire....but either may be servicable going forward. They'll slide Crayton into the slot and Austin will see more PT, but lets not crown him yet. Out of the three WW darlings, Austin, Maclin, and Massa...I think Maclin has the potential to produce the most on a regular basis.
after Massa's breakout game 2 weeks ago, yes they did shut him down. what did he have last week 15 yards on 1 catch? That's my point. After Manningham's breakout game 3 weeks ago how has he done? Hey Austin might be decent but lets see him do something when teams are looking at him and trying to stop him, against a real NFL defense that can make a tackle and some decent NFL corners.
 
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Miles Austin is the new Massoquoi
Except hes not a rookiePlays for a better team/qbhas more yards/catchesbut yeah I see how similar they are.Good posting there Roy Williams owner
Not a Williams owner and don't own anyone on the Dallas offense. The comparison has to do with him being a flash in the pan and waiver wire darling. Teams will get film, rotate coverage and Miles Austin will disappear ala Massoquoi. It was one great game vs. probably the worst team in the NFL.
:goodposting: the DEF shut Massa down huh? they rotated coverage and locked him down...that's what happened? He still accounted for 70% of CLE recieving ydg and caught 50% of his QB's completed passes....I think that game had a little more to do with a QB that completed 2 passes for 23yds in the whole game. I don't own the guy, but I think you're jumping to conclusions on this one.I'm not a firm believer that any WR1 just jumps off the waiver wire....but either may be servicable going forward. They'll slide Crayton into the slot and Austin will see more PT, but lets not crown him yet. Out of the three WW darlings, Austin, Maclin, and Massa...I think Maclin has the potential to produce the most on a regular basis.
after Massa's breakout game 2 weeks ago, yes they did shut him down. what did he have last week 15 yards on 1 catch? That's my point. After Manningham's breakout game 3 weeks ago how has he done? Hey Austin might be decent but lets see him do something when teams are looking at him and trying to stop him, against a real NFL defense that can make a tackle and some decent NFL corners.
You MISSED his point. His point was that the QB in Cleveland only threw for 23 yards. The winds were so bad in Bufallo that they didn't HAVE to shut down Massaquoi - Massaquoi caught the only pass thrown for more than 5 yards. If Buff had shut him down, you'd expect to see the passing #s go to someone else. This was a fluke game where NO passing worked for DA. Just a bad example.
 

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