BeTheMatch
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We used to. Not so much anymore. We've diluted ourselves into mediocrity.
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Minnesota Sports Fans - Who Has It Worse Than Them? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter General Malaise
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Herb
Footballguy
Moops! Long time! How ya been??
How'd that Lynx thing work out last night??
I tried getting into the WNBA, I really did. I watched a good amount of the finals. I just can't make myself care. And then the refs stole it anyway.
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
The Gophers have made the NCAA tournament four years in a row, been in the Frozen Four two of the last three, and lost in the national championship in OT in 2023. They are currently ranked #5, have 16 NHL draft picks on their roster (most in the nation) with four first round picks (most in the nation), and have two freshman that will be selected in the next draft (including a first rounder) because they had not been eligible yet.
Pull your head out.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
We're talking about championships, right?
Zow
Footballguy
Yeah I still vividly remember the disaster against Quinnipiac.
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
Yes but to claim that Minnesota college hockey is mediocre is absurd. The championship game in 2024 was the first since 2016 that didn't have a Minnesota team in it and that run includes two championships for UMD. Pretty impressive and certainly not mediocre.
the moops
Footballguy
snellman
Footballguy
The bolded part says it all. I had no expectations going into the season. Even at 5-0 I was very guarded saying that they were a good team. I don't view yesterday's loss as a bad loss because the Lions have a very good team and were preseason favorites to win the division. It was a good showing and they had a chance to win that with the offense leaving a lot on the table.
Unfortunately, the Twins misery is probably going to last at least a year. Long term, I am very happy the Pohlads are looking to sell the team. Hopefully someone buys them that is willing to spend a little money on the roster to at least bring them closer to average. That said, there is no way this happens before next year so unfortunately it looks like the Twins are going to bring it back with what they have.
dino259
Footballguy
The #3 ranked women's hockey team did lose 2 games at home over the weekend to #1 ranked Wisconsin.
beer 30
Footballguy
SET THE TONE BOYS!!!!
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
AGAIN!
General Malaise
Footballguy
That offensive line
Wow
Wow
General Malaise
Footballguy
Sorry guys
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's okay. I was getting kind of tired of having some hope anyway.
3 hour lunch
Footballguy
It’s just ridiculous at this point. Makes no sense mathematically. This hopeless Deja vu is so sickening.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Did nobody else try blitzing him constantly until last week?
rockaction
Footballguy
NFC North was/is wildly overrated. Saw it this weekend a bit. When Detroit gets beat by whatever reasonable team beats them (Philly, Baltimore, KC, Buffalo) we’ll see it come into full effect. I really think I want Detroit to beat any of those teams but Buffalo, so it’s not like I’m being a contrarian jerk or anti-Detroit here.
You bring up a great point. It doesn’t seem like anybody thought to go after Bradford, does it? I know the Jets didn’t under Saleh, because Saleh doesn’t blitz, apparently. You’d figure that a team or two would have tried to blitz a guy that once saw “ghosts” on the sideline when it was done to him by a different team, but apparently Brian Flores and Todd Bowles have the monopoly on all blitzes used in the NFL, so the other teams that faced MN couldn’t or wouldn't.
Zow
Footballguy
I was so excited last night. I feel awful for the people in LA (hopefully the silver lining here is that they got some temporary joy out of last night), but man it lined up for me. Unexpectedly got to see my first Vikings playoff game as it lined up with location and work schedule, got good seats for reasonable price, no issues getting to and from the game, a likeable team who unexpectedly overachieved, stadium full of at least 75% Vikings fans so it felt like a home game and... just lackluster play. So anticlimactic.
This one doesn't hurt as much as 98 or 09 in terms of like a gut punch, but I can't help but feel somewhat depressed/disappointed even as I woke up this morning. Just a completely different team the last two weeks. It's like dating a girl you really like then she turns into a maniac and you get to experience the couple weeks of disappointment, frustration, and fear and keep wondering whether this is some alternate reality.
This one doesn't hurt as much as 98 or 09 in terms of like a gut punch, but I can't help but feel somewhat depressed/disappointed even as I woke up this morning. Just a completely different team the last two weeks. It's like dating a girl you really like then she turns into a maniac and you get to experience the couple weeks of disappointment, frustration, and fear and keep wondering whether this is some alternate reality.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
They lost to only two teams all season.
0-4 against Detroit and L.A. 14-0 against everyone else.
beer 30
Footballguy
It's the hope that kills you......
So the Vikes lost to the #1 seed twice and the 10 game division winning Rams twice. Both of which are in the final four of the NFC. The Packers lost to the #1 seed twice, the #2 seed twice, and a 14 win team twice.
Not sure how they are overrated. They were good teams that had ugliness rear it's head this weekend. The Vikes had Darnold becoming a pumpkin again and the Packers were down to WR4, 5, 6 not to mention their line was decimated with injuries too. It's part of the game for sure and they didn't perform when it mattered but that doesn't make them bad teams.
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General Malaise
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I guess the silver lining for Vikings' fans is you now KNOW Darnold isn't the answer and you already have your future QB in house. It's a good team, just need a QB that can make quicker decisions and won't see ghosts when he's back to pass.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Thanks. It's odd, because I used to silently judge the Eagles fans that I grew up around when their mood for the week was dictated by how the Eagles played that past Sunday. Told myself I'd never be like that. But, today, I've been in a general malaise (pun somewhat intended) and just bummed out. Like finally getting a date with the girl you have pined for for a long time only to find out she's not at all what you thought. So much build up for so little payoff.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Well, I kinda know how you feel. I thought this was THE year for the Oregon Ducks. I was watching the Texas game before the Oregon game with friends at a bar and since it ran late due to OT, we stayed to the end and missed the start of the Oregon game. Had to run to the store before going home and when I sat down on my couch with the fam, it was 17-0 Ohio State. I mean.....god. There was 3 more quarters of misery and despair left to go.
Not the same thing, of course, but I too know recent heartbreak in sports.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Do they?
I'll ask it here, too. 3 years/$100 mil. Who says no - Vikes or Darnold?
Zow
Footballguy
Yeah, contrary to the knife in the chest type losses in years passed for the Vikings where it's one gut-punching play, last night was a slow death by a thousand cuts. The bad start, the lack of any sense of urgency when down (especially at the end of the third quarter), the nine sacks or whatever it was highlighted by the Verse scoop and score, Stafford looking like the clearly better QB, Jefferson not really involved... just nothing to ever even get excited about from the jump. Only real time the stadium went crazy and I felt good about things was the Stafford incomplete pass that really looked in live time like a fumble and a score. None of us really had any idea for several minutes that it could possibly not be a TD and even the Vikings' special teams lined up for the EP so it was just confusing when it didn't count. Bizarrely, the stadium only showed one replay* once and it wasn't clear and obvious to us in the stands. Definitely had the "okay, we were down early but it's tied now and we got the momentum... here we go!" only to turn into confusion and disappointment when it wasn't even intentional grounding. Then, there wasn't much to get excited about after that and we all just sorta sat there the rest of the time. Frankly, if I am being truly honest, the Rams could have just routed us so we good have left and beaten the traffic rather than sit through a pretty much vanilla second half with the score still close enough that there was hope until the mid-4th.
*It had been a few years since I had been to a live NFL game and I forgot just how much the fan there doesn't quite know what happened because the replays are scarce and the breaks for stoppages are really long (this game especially with it being a playoff game and a MNF game).
*It had been a few years since I had been to a live NFL game and I forgot just how much the fan there doesn't quite know what happened because the replays are scarce and the breaks for stoppages are really long (this game especially with it being a playoff game and a MNF game).
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Zow
Footballguy
That's the Baker deal and I think the Vikings say no. McCarthy on a rookie deal please Daniel Jones or some other lesser-priced veteran seems the more fiscal option.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
I hear you, and if McCarthy wasn't waiting in the proverbial wings my answer would be different.
I also have a good memory of Case Keenum.
McBokonon
Footballguy
In their defense, I'm not sure going after a guy who retired and now owns a medical marijuana dispensary in Arkansas would lead to many wins.
Vikings should say no. I don't know if they will if that is what it takes. I would much rather go with the franchise tag that may be more for 2025 but is only one year with no future commitment beyond next year when JJM can fully take over (if he doesn't take over next year).
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Vikings
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Vikings should offer Darnold the vet minimum
snellman
Footballguy
As has been said before, this did not hurt as bad as 98 or 09. Maybe it is because the pessimistic lifelong Vikings fan in me was waiting for the other shoe to drop all year. This was supposed to be a down/rebuilding year and start of a roster turnover. Part of me was kind of glad they got beat last night. I never really wanted them to give Darnold a contract long term. Will JJ pan out? Very possibly not, but I am more excited for next season to see what he has with this roster and players around him for long term than I was about bringing Darnold back.
On another somber note, we may have seen Harry the Hitman play his last game. I was excited when they drafted him and he has more than lived up to the expectation.
MAC_32
Footballguy
LET'S GO CAVS
General Malaise
Footballguy
Well, you have to be encouraged by the production from this bumper crop of rookies. Daniels and Nix were terrific, Caleb had some nice moments amidst coaching turmoil and I'm telling y'all right now (and have said this since he shredded my Ducks thrice) Penix Jr. is HIM. So, maybe the jury is out on JJ but all signs point to a bright future with him considering where he was drafted. IMO.
Or maybe the odds are against him because all the other guys seem to have hit? There has to be at least one dud in the group, right?
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
The right decision, imo, is to plan to go with McCarthy. But I'm not sold they make the right decision. They're basically in the same place they were when they brought Darnold there in the first place. I mean, I guess they know a little more about JJ. But they still have no idea how he'll perform in similar situations. Maybe a 1 year franchise tag does make the most sense, but that's gotta be $40+ million, right? That's a lot of cap space for insurance. I still believe somebody is going to pay Darnold, and the Baker contract seems like the most likely to me atm.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I suppose that's also a risk but I'm trying to be positive. Unlike some of the other guys drafted last year, we haven't really seen his full body of work in action. He wasn't asked to do much at Michigan - didn't have to. But when called upon, he was nails. The other guys also played a lot more and played at a high level in TWO major college football programs, which is unusual given football's history but might just be a harbinger of things to come; a new normal if you will.
General Malaise
Footballguy
If I'm a GM, I don't touch the guy but I can see the Raiders, Giants, Saints, Titans and other bottom feeders taking the cheese on him.
General Malaise
Footballguy
You poor poor people. Salt of the earth nice people deserve better than this.
Zow
Footballguy
Oh stop.
General Malaise
Footballguy
3 hour lunch
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12,000 days without a finals trip of any kind
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