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MJD did not fumble (1 Viewer)

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It was in the last play of the game:

2-10-JAC 31 :-)14) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 18-M.Jones to JAC 41 for 10 yards. Lateral to 32-M.Jones-Drew to JAC 41 for no gain. FUMBLES, RECOVERED by BUF-33-J.Greer at JAC 41. PENALTY on JAC-18-M.Jones, Illegal Forward Pass, 5 yards, enforced at JAC 44.
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The play was nullified, so the fumble didin't occur.Why didnt they fix it in the scoreboard ?TIA
 
i have not seen one instance when sportsline has failed to change a stat if it's officially changed by the NFL. i wouldn't worry about it

 
jbz said:
i have not seen one instance when sportsline has failed to change a stat if it's officially changed by the NFL. i wouldn't worry about it
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NFL.com didnt change it either.Is it possible that they keep it wrong?
 
Well this could screw me too. I submitted an email through cbs help section. I'm down by 1.5 and could really use those 3 points back. Looks like we have until close of business day tomorrow. I would though send an email to cbs, it could help. I also don't think the nfl.com gamebooks will change if they adjusted the stat I remember someone saying that here last season. But I would think it would have been fixed already. Maybe I'll wake up to a nice surprise tomorrow. Here is what CBS states in their FAQ:

Question

I believe the Official Stats are incorrect. Can this be corrected?

Answer

The statistics presented within your fantasy league the day after the games are directly from the Official Statistics provider of the NFL. After the games have concluded, the games are reviewed repeatedly on video tape to correct any statistical discrepancy input during the game. The unofficial Live Scoring statistics displayed within the GameCenter during the ballgames are keyed in as rapidly as possible at the stadiums and are prone to occasional errors. Most, if not all Sports web-sites simply present an initial stat feed on their statistics pages, and are not overly concerned with updating the page unless a gross error is identified. The statistics within our fantasy products are accurate per the Official Statistics provider of the NFL.

- Please note that the live stats you see during games are NOT official. We receive official game stats each night/early morning after games are played and are updated according to the league’s certified box scores.

- Please do not e-mail if a live scoring error should occur. Wait to see if it is correct the next day and usually, it will be. Occasionally, there are small discrepancies in the live presentation that are taken care of rapidly, independent of official statistical scoring. If you believe the stat in question is still wrong the following morning (10am), this is the time to submit your inquiry.

- We do not change these official stats unless the NFL Official Stat, although we will include any late changes the NFL sends us by end-of-day Tuesday. If you play in a Football Commissioner league, the commissioner can manually change any scores in the league by using the ADJUST SCORING feature at the bottom of the SCOREBOARD page.

 
Markus P Dub said:
Well this could screw me too. I submitted an email through cbs help section. I'm down by 1.5 and could really use those 3 points back. Looks like we have until close of business day tomorrow. I would though send an email to cbs, it could help. I also don't think the nfl.com gamebooks will change if they adjusted the stat I remember someone saying that here last season. But I would think it would have been fixed already. Maybe I'll wake up to a nice surprise tomorrow. Here is what CBS states in their FAQ: Question I believe the Official Stats are incorrect. Can this be corrected? Answer The statistics presented within your fantasy league the day after the games are directly from the Official Statistics provider of the NFL. After the games have concluded, the games are reviewed repeatedly on video tape to correct any statistical discrepancy input during the game. The unofficial Live Scoring statistics displayed within the GameCenter during the ballgames are keyed in as rapidly as possible at the stadiums and are prone to occasional errors. Most, if not all Sports web-sites simply present an initial stat feed on their statistics pages, and are not overly concerned with updating the page unless a gross error is identified. The statistics within our fantasy products are accurate per the Official Statistics provider of the NFL. - Please note that the live stats you see during games are NOT official. We receive official game stats each night/early morning after games are played and are updated according to the league’s certified box scores.- Please do not e-mail if a live scoring error should occur. Wait to see if it is correct the next day and usually, it will be. Occasionally, there are small discrepancies in the live presentation that are taken care of rapidly, independent of official statistical scoring. If you believe the stat in question is still wrong the following morning (10am), this is the time to submit your inquiry.- We do not change these official stats unless the NFL Official Stat, although we will include any late changes the NFL sends us by end-of-day Tuesday. If you play in a Football Commissioner league, the commissioner can manually change any scores in the league by using the ADJUST SCORING feature at the bottom of the SCOREBOARD page.
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So let's wait and see.But in the real world, the fumble never happened because the lateral was an illegal play, right ?
 
Thats my assumption. The officials reviewed the play as well and determined it was an illegal fwd pass and the ball went back to Jax but the ref started the clock run-off and the game was over. If it was a change of possession, Buffalo would have been on the field to take a knee because there were 3 seconds left I believe. Turnover, runner down, clock stop, change of possession but that didn't happen. Seems like an easy fix??

 
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Yeah its not looking good; but us CBS people have until close of business today. However the league standings have been updated.......

 
Update: e-mail from CBS Sportsline

At this point the play is still ruled as a fumble and until that is changed by the NFL and the Elias Sports Bureau, that is the offical scoring at this point. It's possible that the scoring will be changed but it will have to be done by no later than tomorrow. If you would like you can Adjust the Scoring yourself by going to the Live Scoring page and clicking the link to Adjust Scores.
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This is a great reason to have something in your league bylaws establishing the "official" scores, and at what date they become so.

Correct or not, we use sportsline's tally, made official at the start of the following weeks' games.

 
MFL hasn't corrected it.

Doesn't matter for me as I lost by 19, but 16 at least "sounds" better. :confused:

 
Even the play by play has been updated. Well I'm screwed anyways. CBS closed their books by Wednesday. I'm the commish and I'm not going to put points back on the board as we agreed to let cbs handle all scoring. Lovely

:-)14) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 18-M.Jones to JAC 41 for 10 yards. Lateral to 32-M.Jones-Drew to JAC 41 for no gain. FUMBLES, RECOVERED by BUF-33-J.Greer at JAC 41. The Replay Assistant challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 18-M.Jones to JAC 41 for 10 yards. 18-M.Jones pass incomplete short left to 32-M.Jones-Drew. PENALTY on JAC-18-M.Jones, Illegal Forward Pass, 0 yards, enforced at JAC 41.

END GAME

 
Well CBS told me yesterday that they have to close their scoring by tuesday because of the waiver run and how that could affect owner decisions etc. From my research the Elias corrections don't come out until Thursday so basically CBS does not do any corrections. Littled pissed and told them we pay a lot of $$ for this league and free yahoo league get all the changes. He said that they will look into reviewing their policy. yeah right. I'm the commish in my league and yes I know I can use the manual scoring adjustment but our league rules say we let CBS handle the scoring. So after irritating the guy I played against I will leave it alone and take my 1.5 loss. Damn -3 fumbles! I don't know how the stat guy at that game didn't fix that error right away? I know it was at the end of the game but jezz, an official review to reverse the play seems like an easy stat fix.

 
If you did a search on CBS in FBG's SP forum (been every year tops for last 6 )..you will see complaints galore about CBS..thats why not many join it.

 
Jayrod said:
Doug B said:
:rolleyes:

I don't know, Jayrod. It was fixed on my squad :lmao:

EDIT: See this link.
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Wow. That's messed up.How can the same host site have it correct in one league, but not in another?

Good thing I lost by more than 3 points or else I'd be pissed.
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You commission has to go in and do this. There is a new setting to automatically make changes but it has to be enabled.From MFL.com Help:

: Occasionally, the Elias Sports Bureau (the official Statistician of the NFL) makes official statistics changes after a week's games have been completed. Note that there is no set schedule for when these corrections are announced - they might be announced a day after a game is over, and at other times, it may be weeks later.

When changes like this happen after we've issued "Final Weekly Results" for a given week, we allow you, as the league commissioner, to decide if you'd like to include or exclude these late statistics changes from your league results. Be sure to select the "For Commissioners > Stat Changes" menu option to manage these stat changes as needed. Note that we generally publish any changed on Wednesday night or Thursday morning at the latest. Any official stat changes that are made by the Elias Sports Bureau after Thursday morning of a given week will not be included as an option on MyFantasyLeague.com.

A quick word about official NFL Statistics changes - experience has shown that some web sites choose to update their pages to reflect these changes, while other sites do not - even the NFL itself typically does not update it's "Game Stats" pages to reflect these changes. Keep that in mind when looking at others sites and comparing the statistics that they display as compared to ours.

How we handle "Official NFL Statistics Changes" is another way we like to differentiate ourselves from some of our competitors. Some of our competitors force you to accept all of the official NFL statistics changes, while others expect you to manually adjust your scores in the case of official NFL statistics changes. We think it's best for you to decide how to handle these stat changes, so you can optionally include or exclude them from your league scoring results on a week-by-week basis.
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Markus P Dub said:
Even the play by play has been updated. Well I'm screwed anyways. CBS closed their books by Wednesday. I'm the commish and I'm not going to put points back on the board as we agreed to let cbs handle all scoring. Lovely:-)14) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 18-M.Jones to JAC 41 for 10 yards. Lateral to 32-M.Jones-Drew to JAC 41 for no gain. FUMBLES, RECOVERED by BUF-33-J.Greer at JAC 41. The Replay Assistant challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 18-M.Jones to JAC 41 for 10 yards. 18-M.Jones pass incomplete short left to 32-M.Jones-Drew. PENALTY on JAC-18-M.Jones, Illegal Forward Pass, 0 yards, enforced at JAC 41. END GAME
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You still have to go in and fix it, even thoug you are the commish and benefitting. You have to treat yourself the same way you would your other GM's. If this had happened in a game that did not involve you, the right thing would have been to change it. Now you have set a precedent. if this happens again the winning team has a legitimate gripe because CBS did not change it in time, even though the fumble never happened. You'll have a pissed off losing team anyway. Unless you are all in agreeance that mistakes count if not fixed by CBS in time.
 
cutler6 said:
Jayrod said:
Doug B said:
:thumbup:

I don't know, Jayrod. It was fixed on my squad :brush:

EDIT: See this link.
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Wow. That's messed up.How can the same host site have it correct in one league, but not in another?

Good thing I lost by more than 3 points or else I'd be pissed.
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You commission has to go in and do this. There is a new setting to automatically make changes but it has to be enabled.From MFL.com Help:

: Occasionally, the Elias Sports Bureau (the official Statistician of the NFL) makes official statistics changes after a week's games have been completed. Note that there is no set schedule for when these corrections are announced - they might be announced a day after a game is over, and at other times, it may be weeks later.

When changes like this happen after we've issued "Final Weekly Results" for a given week, we allow you, as the league commissioner, to decide if you'd like to include or exclude these late statistics changes from your league results. Be sure to select the "For Commissioners > Stat Changes" menu option to manage these stat changes as needed. Note that we generally publish any changed on Wednesday night or Thursday morning at the latest. Any official stat changes that are made by the Elias Sports Bureau after Thursday morning of a given week will not be included as an option on MyFantasyLeague.com.

A quick word about official NFL Statistics changes - experience has shown that some web sites choose to update their pages to reflect these changes, while other sites do not - even the NFL itself typically does not update it's "Game Stats" pages to reflect these changes. Keep that in mind when looking at others sites and comparing the statistics that they display as compared to ours.

How we handle "Official NFL Statistics Changes" is another way we like to differentiate ourselves from some of our competitors. Some of our competitors force you to accept all of the official NFL statistics changes, while others expect you to manually adjust your scores in the case of official NFL statistics changes. We think it's best for you to decide how to handle these stat changes, so you can optionally include or exclude them from your league scoring results on a week-by-week basis.
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Sweet.I'm the asst. commish. I think I'm going to go ahead and change it. :unsure:

 
We have a "Time Limit" for stat changes to be applied. Wednesday at 12:00 pm is the deadline for protests or request for stat changes to be applied otherwise the games are recorded as official.

 
hellz_fireflies said:
If you did a search on CBS in FBG's SP forum (been every year tops for last 6 )..you will see complaints galore about CBS..thats why not many join it.
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not many join it? i'm pretty sure sportsline is one of the most used fantasy sites out there.
 
Markus P Dub said:
Well CBS told me yesterday that they have to close their scoring by tuesday because of the waiver run and how that could affect owner decisions etc. From my research the Elias corrections don't come out until Thursday so basically CBS does not do any corrections. Littled pissed and told them we pay a lot of $$ for this league and free yahoo league get all the changes. He said that they will look into reviewing their policy. yeah right. I'm the commish in my league and yes I know I can use the manual scoring adjustment but our league rules say we let CBS handle the scoring. So after irritating the guy I played against I will leave it alone and take my 1.5 loss. Damn -3 fumbles! I don't know how the stat guy at that game didn't fix that error right away? I know it was at the end of the game but jezz, an official review to reverse the play seems like an easy stat fix.
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Why are we letting CBS dictate league policy? Just because it's "easy for them"? :goodposting: For $130 or what ever they are stealing from you guys to use their "service", they outta be bending over backwards trying to make sure they give you what you want, not jamming whatever they want to do down your throat

I run 16 leagues and play in 2 more locals, ALL run on MyFantasyLeague.com.

They allow me to set whatever I want in terms of waiver calendar, scoring, you name it.

For less than 1/2 of what CBS charges...this is a "no brainer" guys, really

put the money back in the pot AND get a much more customized site to run your league...seriously!

 
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Birdie048 said:
We have a "Time Limit" for stat changes to be applied. Wednesday at 12:00 pm is the deadline for protests or request for stat changes to be applied otherwise the games are recorded as official.
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back in the day, when we had to score leagues by hand using the USA Today, this was practical (having a "drop-dead deadline")because sites are so much more 'automated' now, as indicated by MFL ability to run every correction automatically, doesn't it make more sence to "get it right" as opposed to have a predetermined day/time to finalize the standings?

we aren't talking about going back and changing games over weeks ago, but if a correction is made Th or Fri, as opposed to Wed noon, does it really matter?

my waivers run 11:45PM Thurs evening, FCFS open 12 noon Fri...plenty of time for the standings to be adjusted in the event of a scoring correction and even if waivers run before a score is adjusted and possibly changes the standings, it is much more important IMO to get the previous weeks game scored correctly than worry if the waiver wire order gets run incorrectly as a result of the change

afterall, turning that L into a W just might be the differance in getting that owner into the playoffs

 
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