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EYLive said:
My roster so far:

1. Flyweight(2): Demetrious Johnson (UFC Champ)

2. Bantamweight(2): Renan Barao (UFC Champ)

3. Featherweight(2): Ricardo Lamas

4. Lightweight (2): Diego Sanchez

5. Welterweight(2): Jake Ellenberger, Jordan Mien

6. Middleweight(2): Luke Rockhold (Strikeforce Champ, Last)

7. Light Heavyweight(2): Quentin Jackson

8. Heavyweight(2): Antonio Silva

9. Retired/HOFer(2): Tito Ortiz

Winning!
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Yeah, that is pretty impressice right there. Solid up and down the roster. Though i think your heavier guys will be getting beat up quite a bit.

And this draft can take sooo long when you have your eye on a guy and you are just waiting to grab him if you can. I have tunnel vision with this one guy, and i may be valuing him more than most here but i will be glad if he can fall to me. I have 2 definite guys i am ready to pull the trigger on, so if it gets to Ahrn's turn and they are still there it will bounce right back around the bend

ETA: I'm looking at:

retired: Lesnar

HWY: Ubereem and Travis Browne

LHW: Texeira

MW: Phillipou, Uriah Hall

WW:

LW: Eddie Alvarez, Edson Barboza

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis and Cub Swanson

BW: Ronda Rousy and Dom Cruz

Flyweight:

My flyweight division is going to be in trouble, possibly. i have one guy in mind that will be impressive, if he makes it a bit more. I see WW is pretty deep, and will be happy with some of the guys that are still around there. Overall, I think i have a good, young, marketable roster right now that has already proven they can sell tickets and make money. And i have some flexibility with the roster. Mixing up fights between Dom Cruz, Anthony Pettis, Cub and Eddie would be great because they would all be fun fights to watch. Having Rousy allows me to not sweat getting another chick, because i can pick anybody up and she sells the fights herself right now (speaking of which, i am surprised nobody else has grabbed a female, i would have thought of grabbing one by now)

 
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hooter311 said:
scoobus said:
11.07 Kazushi Sakuraba

The Gracie Hunter
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Guy could put on a show and was always taking on guys way out of his weight class. Much respect.
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Yup, and i think he finishes off the top of the retired guys that would be fun to have on the roster. I was thinking of Bas, Randy, and Chuck going into this, and Brock if i wanted to try and get some marketability and sales.

 
Cheick Kongo, HW

BEWARE ALL ####

lmao at TESSTTICLES being censored here. wouldn't want someone from the church to have to read that.

 
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Nice. here we go:

11.10 I can't figure out how why this guy has lasted so long. My guess is he is down on most rankings and off the radar from the Varner fight, but that was a fluke. With him training with Edgar and upgrading his training all around, he is only getting better and better. I figure i could let the LW class go a bit more because it is real deep, but this guy is too tough to pass up. He should be back in the top 8 after his next win, and i don't know if he will slow down since he is beginning to enter his best years. welcome Mr. Edson Barboza

12.1: No doubt this is a reach here, but I am worried he will be grabbed soon and this is a guy i don't want to miss. I actually don't like doing this with no WW or Flyweights yet, but this guy really is going to be champ someday and may be there for a bit. We haven't seen his all around game too much, but he is training with the right guys and has nowhere to go but up. Welcome to the now #1 MMA league in the world, MW contendor Uriah Hall

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
Cheick Kongo, HW BEWARE ALL ####lmao at TESSTTICLES being censored here. wouldn't want someone from the church to have to read that.
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At least you will have access to some fashionable clothes with Mr. Kongo on your roster. And i see you are on, so hopefully you know you are up next

 
hooter311 said:
Wow, I don't watch TUF except to do tape study on the actual fights, but really mo?
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Yeah. He is a reach. I won't deny that. But I think this is one of those boom or bust picks. I will factor in his exposure from those show too. And I probably am drinking the kool-aid, but he has been training with Phillipou and Weidman for awhile, so his wrestling is hopefully adequate. I think he may be training with Chael for the TUF finale too, which will only help. I certainly think he has the athletic skills to pick up wrestling, similar to what GSP did. No doubt the guy has serious KO power from what we have seen, he has the killer instinct, and at worst i have a guy here who loves to stand and bang and has a plethora of strikes to use. I take his upside over most of the guys in the UFC MW division now, and I agree with Chael that he is at contendor status now. He'll take a loss at some point, but if his head is right and he is in the right training camps, I think this pick will look like a steal in 2 or 3 years.

i hate to mentioned other MWs out there while people are still drafting, but look at the next logical 4-5 guys to take. i would take Hall over all of them. And I am/was a big Belcher fan, but the guy's fight against Okami has caused me to lose a lot of faith in him. I just think his style is what i want in my league, and his recent KO convinced me he should be in Mo's Fighting Championship. I have him for another 5-10 years, and he will only get better.

ETA2: and this pick is one of those picks that i think will make grading this draft fun. I can see a lot of plus side here, but if i am starting with a roster of 20 guys/girls maybe he is too risky

 
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wins over Tito, Mark Munoz, and another big name not yet picked.

Got robbed in a decision vs Michael Bit¢hping

Only legit losses were against very top tier guys -- Rich Franklin, Alex Gustafsson, and Ramage.

:coffee: OH YEAH AND HE'S THE ONLY GUY WHO EVER BEAT JON JONES :coffee:

11.02 Matt Hammill, LHW

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
wins over Tito, Mark Munoz, and another big name not yet picked.

Got robbed in a decision vs Michael Bit¢hping

Only legit losses were against very top tier guys -- Rich Franklin, Alex Gustafsson, and Ramage.

:coffee: OH YEAH AND HE'S THE ONLY GUY WHO EVER BEAT JON JONES :coffee:

11.02 Matt Hammill, LHW
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Wow, this is a surprise. Shouldn't he technically be in the retired category? I think my biggest surprise here is that he goes against the core of your league Ahrn.

 
12.03 Stefan Struve, HW

He's only 25 years old, has 31 fights and has only gone to a decision 1 time, which he won. He has his prime years ahead of him and he'll get his title shots.

 
hooter311 said:
modogg said:
hooter311 said:
9 categories = 18 rounds
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huh, ok. Maybe we all pick 2 free agents after the draft is over, first call first serve and you can pick any weight class to make it an even 20 per league?
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I could go 50 rounds if we didn't have to pick up any more flyweights.

I'm down for whatever
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Yeah, same here.

And no props on Edson? Man maybe i am higher on him then most. I think getting anybody who gets KO of the year is a bonus for your league. I did check out his fights and he hasn't fought any pure wrestlers yet, but I know that he has trained a ton of that with Edgar and other top guys. He apparently has become real tight with Edgar, who is certainly a good role model to follow.

 
modogg said:
AhrnCityPahnder said:
wins over Tito, Mark Munoz, and another big name not yet picked.

Got robbed in a decision vs Michael Bit¢hping

Only legit losses were against very top tier guys -- Rich Franklin, Alex Gustafsson, and Ramage.

:coffee: OH YEAH AND HE'S THE ONLY GUY WHO EVER BEAT JON JONES :coffee:

11.02 Matt Hammill, LHW
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Wow, this is a surprise. Shouldn't he technically be in the retired category? I think my biggest surprise here is that he goes against the core of your league Ahrn.
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He came back out of retirement and fought in November. He's rostered currently. And yeah, I know he's not the most exciting fighter of all time, but the talent left at LHW is going off a cliff, quickly. Figured I'd get a guy who is at least decent of the bums that are remaining.

 
EYLive said:
12.03 Stefan Struve, HW

He's only 25 years old, has 31 fights and has only gone to a decision 1 time, which he won. He has his prime years ahead of him and he'll get his title shots.
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Man, I must have said this about this guy for the last 2-3 years. I am a big Struve fan though, and was really conflicted between him and Browne, but i am not sure how much more he can grow in the sport. He just doesn't learn well from his mistakes, and refuses to use his natural advantage. i do like the guy a lot though, and wouldn't be surprised if he is your #1 HWY over Big Foot

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
modogg said:
AhrnCityPahnder said:
wins over Tito, Mark Munoz, and another big name not yet picked.

Got robbed in a decision vs Michael Bit¢hping

Only legit losses were against very top tier guys -- Rich Franklin, Alex Gustafsson, and Ramage.

:coffee: OH YEAH AND HE'S THE ONLY GUY WHO EVER BEAT JON JONES :coffee:

11.02 Matt Hammill, LHW
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Wow, this is a surprise. Shouldn't he technically be in the retired category? I think my biggest surprise here is that he goes against the core of your league Ahrn.
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He came back out of retirement and fought in November. He's rostered currently. And yeah, I know he's not the most exciting fighter of all time, but the talent left at LHW is going off a cliff, quickly. Figured I'd get a guy who is at least decent of the bums that are remaining.
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Makes sense. I was surprised when i looked at the LHWs too, that weight class has dropped quite a bit. I'll get stuck drafting Ryan Jimmo or somebody. Will be a good can to keep feeding Texeira as he grows I guess

 
modogg said:
hooter311 said:
modogg said:
hooter311 said:
9 categories = 18 rounds
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huh, ok. Maybe we all pick 2 free agents after the draft is over, first call first serve and you can pick any weight class to make it an even 20 per league?
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I could go 50 rounds if we didn't have to pick up any more flyweights.

I'm down for whatever
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Yeah, same here.

And no props on Edson? Man maybe i am higher on him then most. I think getting anybody who gets KO of the year is a bonus for your league. I did check out his fights and he hasn't fought any pure wrestlers yet, but I know that he has trained a ton of that with Edgar and other top guys. He apparently has become real tight with Edgar, who is certainly a good role model to follow.
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I'm a big fan of Edson. We've talked before how one of Edson's early weaknesses was that if you "fight him in a phone booth" you could put a hurt on him. This seems to have turned into a strength with the help of Edgar. Sky is really the limit, but I'm not sure if he has enough of a frame to deal with wrestlers in that division. We will learn more in the short future, so far he has been given favorable matchups against strikers for the most part.

 
modogg said:
EYLive said:
12.03 Stefan Struve, HW

He's only 25 years old, has 31 fights and has only gone to a decision 1 time, which he won. He has his prime years ahead of him and he'll get his title shots.
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Man, I must have said this about this guy for the last 2-3 years. I am a big Struve fan though, and was really conflicted between him and Browne, but i am not sure how much more he can grow in the sport. He just doesn't learn well from his mistakes, and refuses to use his natural advantage. i do like the guy a lot though, and wouldn't be surprised if he is your #1 HWY over Big Foot
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Hate to say it but I think Struve's best years as a fighter are already behind him. The problem with being 7 feet tall is that it is a really long ways down when you are brutally knocked out. He has suffered severe brain trauma in at least 4 UFC fights. He is already 8 years deep in his career. You don't see a lot of guys fight effectively after 10, no matter what age they start at.

I've always been a huge fan of his ground game and it's top 3 in the division. It is always fun seeing a guy that size using his leverage. But he can't complete a takedown and always takes massive damage in even his wins.

He will be lucky to have 5 more career fights imo.

 
hooter311 said:
I'm a big fan of Edson. We've talked before how one of Edson's early weaknesses was that if you "fight him in a phone booth" you could put a hurt on him. This seems to have turned into a strength with the help of Edgar. Sky is really the limit, but I'm not sure if he has enough of a frame to deal with wrestlers in that division. We will learn more in the short future, so far he has been given favorable matchups against strikers for the most part.
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Yeah, when looking at who he has fought he has been given a lot of fighters to match his style. But he has fought a lot of the best of the best strikers and won. He at least looks like he is willing to learn (i.e. seeking out Edgar and a new camp) which is a big deal. And i jsut thought of the match-ups i have around those weight classes. If guys are up for going up and down between BW and LW, i have:

Anthony Showtime Pettis

Cub Swanson

Eddie Alvarez

Edson Barboza

Dom Cruz

Those are so awesome fights right there and gives me options of mixing and matching as i go forward.

 
I don't mean to rail or slob on anyone's picks or anything, I just like to yap once I get going. Everything I post is my opinion, I don't mean at all to come off as presenting it as fact.

 
hooter311 said:
I don't mean to rail or slob on anyone's picks or anything, I just like to yap once I get going. Everything I post is my opinion, I don't mean at all to come off as presenting it as fact.
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I would guess we all know that. Struve is such a funny guy to discuss. I mean literally, everyone has been talking about him getting ready to enter his best years and begin to mature as a fighter. I think everyone has given up on predicting that anymore. I know he recently grew another inch or so i the past few months, and his body is filling out a little more. it is hard to see what his future will look like, but his fight against Miocic was a good one for him. he showed growth in his game and looked like he was moving forward. But then he jsut looked like a fool against Hunt on the ground, and got sucked into standing and trading with him. I think Struve will always flirt with the top of the division, but it is hard to see him ever beating JDS and Cain

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
modogg said:
AhrnCityPahnder said:
wins over Tito, Mark Munoz, and another big name not yet picked.

Got robbed in a decision vs Michael Bit¢hping

Only legit losses were against very top tier guys -- Rich Franklin, Alex Gustafsson, and Ramage.

:coffee: OH YEAH AND HE'S THE ONLY GUY WHO EVER BEAT JON JONES :coffee:

11.02 Matt Hammill, LHW
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Wow, this is a surprise. Shouldn't he technically be in the retired category? I think my biggest surprise here is that he goes against the core of your league Ahrn.
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He came back out of retirement and fought in November. He's rostered currently. And yeah, I know he's not the most exciting fighter of all time, but the talent left at LHW is going off a cliff, quickly. Figured I'd get a guy who is at least decent of the bums that are remaining.
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I agree. The talent is thin at LHW, not much young talent in that division. I'm happy to have gotten Rampage and Forrest, both former champs, especially in my draft spot.

 
12.04 Erik Koch

Was on his way to beating Ricardo Lamas in his last fight until he slipped on a takedown and then got his face beat in. 24 years old, only career losses to Lamas and Mendes, 5-2 in the UFC/WEC, 13-2 overall.

 
I'll admit I forgot about Barboza (that and I already have 2 LWs), nice pick. Seems like he hasn't fought in forever. I see he fought in January after looking it up, I didn't catch that one but good to see him get back on the winning track. I wish the UFC would start giving him some top competition to see where he's at.

 
I'm a big Struve fan, but there's only so many times you can get knocked out. I know he's only 25, but his fight age has got to be closer to 40. Which sucks because I thought he really looked like he turned the corner against Herman and Miocic with regards to his striking. His W/L record within the UFC is outstanding, especially for a young HW; his problem is every time he loses, it's by devastating knockout.

 
modogg said:
Nice. here we go:

11.10 I can't figure out how why this guy has lasted so long. My guess is he is down on most rankings and off the radar from the Varner fight, but that was a fluke. With him training with Edgar and upgrading his training all around, he is only getting better and better. I figure i could let the LW class go a bit more because it is real deep, but this guy is too tough to pass up. He should be back in the top 8 after his next win, and i don't know if he will slow down since he is beginning to enter his best years. welcome Mr. Edson Barboza
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:rant:

this was my next pick, you snake! Nice job - I agree that he fell a little too far. Guy has all the talent in the world and hasn't even hit his prime.

(I don't think the Varner fight was a fluke, though - Jamie's a pretty damn good fighter in his own right)

 
12.05 - Jimi Manuwa, LHW

Undefeated 205'er and former champ of some limey fight league I can't remember offhand. He's got concrete blocks for hands and emits pheromones that make his opponents deathly afraid*. He's a little older at 33 than I'd like for a LHW prospect, but whatever, the man is a beast.

(edit because I'm a moron and put the wrong pick number)

* this statement has not been verified

 
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12.07 Tarec Saffiedine- Welterweight

Past two rounds I was *this* close to taking him. I was really sweating with mo declared he hadn't taken a WW yet. Tarec looks better every time we see him.

 
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12.06 - Jimi Manuwa, LHW Undefeated 205'er and former champ of some limey fight league I can't remember offhand. He's got concrete blocks for hands and emits pheromones that make his opponents deathly afraid*. He's a little older at 33 than I'd like for a LHW prospect, but whatever, the man is a beast. * this statement has not been verified
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Hah, well if it makes you feel better about Barboza Manuwa was the guy I was lining up for my Lhw pick. I don't think there is much left now at all in that division. And I have been eyeing up Barboza for a few rounds, pressed my luck taking Browne instead of him
 
modogg said:
Possum said:
12.06 - Jimi Manuwa, LHW Undefeated 205'er and former champ of some limey fight league I can't remember offhand. He's got concrete blocks for hands and emits pheromones that make his opponents deathly afraid*. He's a little older at 33 than I'd like for a LHW prospect, but whatever, the man is a beast. * this statement has not been verified
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Hah, well if it makes you feel better about Barboza Manuwa was the guy I was lining up for my Lhw pick. I don't think there is much left now at all in that division. And I have been eyeing up Barboza for a few rounds, pressed my luck taking Browne instead of him
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yeah, there's still a few guys left at 205, but Manuwa has the best potential out of them imo (I also didn't want to go drafting guys from smaller promotions that I'd never actually seen in action).

also, thanks for posting, as I now notice that I screwed up the pick number :bowtie:

 
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12.04 Erik Koch Was on his way to beating Ricardo Lamas in his last fight until he slipped on a takedown and then got his face beat in. 24 years old, only career losses to Lamas and Mendes, 5-2 in the UFC/WEC, 13-2 overall.
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I like this pick a ton here. It is nice to see that the depth of mma has us picking guys who are real good fighters this deep into the draft. If we did this draft 3-4 years ago I'm not sure if it would have as easy to get quality in some of these rounds
 
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HW- Shane Carwin

Beast who's ran into a bit of bad luck in recent years.
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My favorite fighter when he was working his way up. I made my first boatload gambling on MMA when he upset Frank Mir. Without that win by Shane, I probably wouldn't be the fan I am today. I hope to see him win again, but he has been out a long time. If he is healthy, I'd love to see him take on a guy like Hunt or Overeem. At this time it might be a long shot though.

 
hooter311 said:
bonesman said:
HW- Shane Carwin

Beast who's ran into a bit of bad luck in recent years.
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My favorite fighter when he was working his way up. I made my first boatload gambling on MMA when he upset Frank Mir. Without that win by Shane, I probably wouldn't be the fan I am today. I hope to see him win again, but he has been out a long time. If he is healthy, I'd love to see him take on a guy like Hunt or Overeem. At this time it might be a long shot though.
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Carwin vs. Lavar Johnson would be fun. Is Johnson suspended for testosterone?

 
EYLive said:
hooter311 said:
bonesman said:
HW- Shane Carwin

Beast who's ran into a bit of bad luck in recent years.
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My favorite fighter when he was working his way up. I made my first boatload gambling on MMA when he upset Frank Mir. Without that win by Shane, I probably wouldn't be the fan I am today. I hope to see him win again, but he has been out a long time. If he is healthy, I'd love to see him take on a guy like Hunt or Overeem. At this time it might be a long shot though.
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Carwin vs. Lavar Johnson would be fun. Is Johnson suspended for testosterone?
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UFC gave Lavar the boot in a recent round of cuts.

But he could be back after serving his suspension I suppose.

 
hooter311 said:
EYLive said:
hooter311 said:
bonesman said:
HW- Shane Carwin Beast who's ran into a bit of bad luck in recent years.
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My favorite fighter when he was working his way up. I made my first boatload gambling on MMA when he upset Frank Mir. Without that win by Shane, I probably wouldn't be the fan I am today. I hope to see him win again, but he has been out a long time. If he is healthy, I'd love to see him take on a guy like Hunt or Overeem. At this time it might be a long shot though.
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Carwin vs. Lavar Johnson would be fun. Is Johnson suspended for testosterone?
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UFC gave Lavar the boot in a recent round of cuts. But he could be back after serving his suspension I suppose.
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It's hard for the UFC to bring lavar back just yet. His grappling is so bad that they have only a few guys to match him up with to make the fight worthwhile to schedule. If he at least got average grappling he would be worth a roster spot, but when Barry and Schaub can take him down at will he needs to improve to really justify a spot. Shame because he is awesome to watch and puts on great fights
 
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