Morency now listed as Packers' starting RB on official depth chart (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

This is all you need to know about who the PAckers WANT to start:

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Starter Vernand Morency practiced on a limited basis Sunday and Monday after hurting a knee on Day 1 of training camp.

Rookie Brandon Jackson has had injury problems as well, but he could play if Morency can’t.

Even though Jackson is healthy enough to play, the team Hudson Star-Observer will put Morency in there.

Actually it was running backs coach Edgar Bennett that provided the info they printed.

I'm curious how you came to that conclusion from reading the linked article.To me it read as the writer's opinion. And expecting inside info from a small town newspaper located 250 miles from Green Bay seems ill-advised.

The article came from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, which has one of the best beat writers in the country covering the Packers (Bob McGinn) and another beat writer (Tom Silverstein) who is also one of the better beat writers around. However, neither of them wrote the story in question. That was written by Lori Nickel whose work is ... well ... not on par with her two colleagues at the paper. To put it politely.

It is just my opinion, but I am in agreement with packersfan, the Packers have a small window before they will be rebuilding again around a new QB not named Favre. Going with a rookie in Jackson and Morency is not going to get them to the playoffs.

There seems to be a mindset going around with some Packer fans that the future is going to be so much brighter after Favre retires because that's when Thompson will really start making his strong moves. Well, that completely ignores the historical precedent which indicates (rather strongly) that life without Favre is going to be bad and possibly VERY bad for the team. If you look at the recent history of how teams have fared after losing a Hall of Fame QB none have gotten to a Super Bowl, much less won one and some teams like Dallas and Miami struggled badly for years at the QB position. Denver probably fared the best but even the Broncos haven't come close to duplicating the success they enjoyed with Elway. So the idea that things are going to be so much better once Favre is gone is one I simply do not agree with and history suggests is not going to be the case. So it makes sense for Thompson to act quickly and decisively now while he still has a good QB rather than waiting for that QB to leave. Even if Favre is no longer an elite QB (and I agree that he is not) the hole that will be left behind by his departure will likely prove to be enormous and one that could take the team years to recover from if recent history is any indication.

 

[sho nuff]

There seems to be a mindset going around with some Packer fans that the future is going to be so much brighter after Favre retires because that's when Thompson will really start making his strong moves. Well, that completely ignores the historical precedent which indicates (rather strongly) that life without Favre is going to be bad and possibly VERY bad for the team. If you look at the recent history of how teams have fared after losing a Hall of Fame QB none have gotten to a Super Bowl, much less won one and some teams like Dallas and Miami struggled badly for years at the QB position. Denver probably fared the best but even the Broncos haven't come close to duplicating the success they enjoyed with Elway. So the idea that things are going to be so much better once Favre is gone is one I simply do not agree with and history suggests is not going to be the case. So it makes sense for Thompson to act quickly and decisively now while he still has a good QB rather than waiting for that QB to leave. Even if Favre is no longer an elite QB (and I agree that he is not) the hole that will be left behind by his departure will likely prove to be enormous and one that could take the team years to recover from if recent history is any indication.

What other teams did in the past is completely irrelevant to how the Packers will do after Favre.The teams were set up different, built different, in different cap situations...and so on.The Packers are building up a team with a strong defense, and by the time Rodgers or whoever takes over, perhaps a strong Oline (average age just over 25) WRs hitting their prime (again average age of about 25). RB is the uncertainty for sure.But Im not sure about who all is saying things will be so much better when Favre leaves. There will be question marks for sure...but the teams aver age is just under 26. Depth is building up quite nicely and the QB might not be asked to do much more than not turn the ball over a ton. Add that to an already good cap situation becoming better when Favre's salary are off the books...and there should be some optimism.Dallas' issue was cap troubles after their big guns left. Hell, so were San Frans.How well did Steve Young do after playing behind perhaps the greatest QB of all time?

 

[packersfan]

There seems to be a mindset going around with some Packer fans that the future is going to be so much brighter after Favre retires because that's when Thompson will really start making his strong moves. Well, that completely ignores the historical precedent which indicates (rather strongly) that life without Favre is going to be bad and possibly VERY bad for the team. If you look at the recent history of how teams have fared after losing a Hall of Fame QB none have gotten to a Super Bowl, much less won one and some teams like Dallas and Miami struggled badly for years at the QB position. Denver probably fared the best but even the Broncos haven't come close to duplicating the success they enjoyed with Elway. So the idea that things are going to be so much better once Favre is gone is one I simply do not agree with and history suggests is not going to be the case. So it makes sense for Thompson to act quickly and decisively now while he still has a good QB rather than waiting for that QB to leave. Even if Favre is no longer an elite QB (and I agree that he is not) the hole that will be left behind by his departure will likely prove to be enormous and one that could take the team years to recover from if recent history is any indication.

What other teams did in the past is completely irrelevant to how the Packers will do after Favre.The teams were set up different, built different, in different cap situations...and so on.The Packers are building up a team with a strong defense, and by the time Rodgers or whoever takes over, perhaps a strong Oline (average age just over 25) WRs hitting their prime (again average age of about 25). RB is the uncertainty for sure.But Im not sure about who all is saying things will be so much better when Favre leaves. There will be question marks for sure...but the teams aver age is just under 26. Depth is building up quite nicely and the QB might not be asked to do much more than not turn the ball over a ton. Add that to an already good cap situation becoming better when Favre's salary are off the books...and there should be some optimism.Dallas' issue was cap troubles after their big guns left. Hell, so were San Frans.How well did Steve Young do after playing behind perhaps the greatest QB of all time?

Young is the exception to the recent norm. Does anyone here honestly believe Aaron Rodgers is the next Steve Young? But Young also proves the point I made given how the Niners have had one decent QB (Garcia) and a lot of crap since Young retired. How other teams have fared since losing a Hall of Fame QB is extremely relevant if a consistent pattern emerges with each situation. And that is definitely the case. Some teams have gotten to the playoffs but none have gotten to a Super Bowl. So the idea that life will be so much better without Favre is a difficult one to embrace when one looks at how other teams have fared in recent history after losing a Hall of Fame QB. That's not to say the Packers can't buck the trend. Perhaps they can. But I think it's foolish to just assume all that Thompson needs is to be rid of Favre and then he'll start making his big moves. The smart approach would be to make his big moves now while he's guaranteed to have a good QB rather than trying to compensate for a possibly weak QB situation once Favre retires.

 

[sho nuff]

There seems to be a mindset going around with some Packer fans that the future is going to be so much brighter after Favre retires because that's when Thompson will really start making his strong moves. Well, that completely ignores the historical precedent which indicates (rather strongly) that life without Favre is going to be bad and possibly VERY bad for the team. If you look at the recent history of how teams have fared after losing a Hall of Fame QB none have gotten to a Super Bowl, much less won one and some teams like Dallas and Miami struggled badly for years at the QB position. Denver probably fared the best but even the Broncos haven't come close to duplicating the success they enjoyed with Elway. So the idea that things are going to be so much better once Favre is gone is one I simply do not agree with and history suggests is not going to be the case. So it makes sense for Thompson to act quickly and decisively now while he still has a good QB rather than waiting for that QB to leave. Even if Favre is no longer an elite QB (and I agree that he is not) the hole that will be left behind by his departure will likely prove to be enormous and one that could take the team years to recover from if recent history is any indication.

What other teams did in the past is completely irrelevant to how the Packers will do after Favre.The teams were set up different, built different, in different cap situations...and so on.The Packers are building up a team with a strong defense, and by the time Rodgers or whoever takes over, perhaps a strong Oline (average age just over 25) WRs hitting their prime (again average age of about 25). RB is the uncertainty for sure.But Im not sure about who all is saying things will be so much better when Favre leaves. There will be question marks for sure...but the teams aver age is just under 26. Depth is building up quite nicely and the QB might not be asked to do much more than not turn the ball over a ton. Add that to an already good cap situation becoming better when Favre's salary are off the books...and there should be some optimism.Dallas' issue was cap troubles after their big guns left. Hell, so were San Frans.How well did Steve Young do after playing behind perhaps the greatest QB of all time?

Young is the exception to the recent norm. Does anyone here honestly believe Aaron Rodgers is the next Steve Young? But Young also proves the point I made given how the Niners have had one decent QB (Garcia) and a lot of crap since Young retired. How other teams have fared since losing a Hall of Fame QB is extremely relevant if a consistent pattern emerges with each situation. And that is definitely the case. Some teams have gotten to the playoffs but none have gotten to a Super Bowl. So the idea that life will be so much better without Favre is a difficult one to embrace when one looks at how other teams have fared in recent history after losing a Hall of Fame QB. That's not to say the Packers can't buck the trend. Perhaps they can. But I think it's foolish to just assume all that Thompson needs is to be rid of Favre and then he'll start making his big moves. The smart approach would be to make his big moves now while he's guaranteed to have a good QB rather than trying to compensate for a possibly weak QB situation once Favre retires.

I was not trying to compare Young and Rodgers...just that it has been done.What other teams have done is not relevant as the players and situations and coaches and cap room and all of that are so different from team to team. And where is a quote from any Packer fan claiming life will be "so much better" as you are claiming? I have not read a single thing like that. That is quite different from just thinking that Thompson may spend more then. And he might since he is trying to build a team for the future and not just build around Favre's last ditch efforts for glory.Make big moves now with a 37 (almost 38) year old QB who mulls over retirement every offseason? Wow, I am glad you are not the GM.

 

[Aaronstory]

There seems to be a mindset going around with some Packer fans that the future is going to be so much brighter after Favre retires because that's when Thompson will really start making his strong moves. Well, that completely ignores the historical precedent which indicates (rather strongly) that life without Favre is going to be bad and possibly VERY bad for the team. If you look at the recent history of how teams have fared after losing a Hall of Fame QB none have gotten to a Super Bowl, much less won one and some teams like Dallas and Miami struggled badly for years at the QB position. Denver probably fared the best but even the Broncos haven't come close to duplicating the success they enjoyed with Elway. So the idea that things are going to be so much better once Favre is gone is one I simply do not agree with and history suggests is not going to be the case. So it makes sense for Thompson to act quickly and decisively now while he still has a good QB rather than waiting for that QB to leave. Even if Favre is no longer an elite QB (and I agree that he is not) the hole that will be left behind by his departure will likely prove to be enormous and one that could take the team years to recover from if recent history is any indication.

What other teams did in the past is completely irrelevant to how the Packers will do after Favre.The teams were set up different, built different, in different cap situations...and so on.The Packers are building up a team with a strong defense, and by the time Rodgers or whoever takes over, perhaps a strong Oline (average age just over 25) WRs hitting their prime (again average age of about 25). RB is the uncertainty for sure.But Im not sure about who all is saying things will be so much better when Favre leaves. There will be question marks for sure...but the teams aver age is just under 26. Depth is building up quite nicely and the QB might not be asked to do much more than not turn the ball over a ton. Add that to an already good cap situation becoming better when Favre's salary are off the books...and there should be some optimism.Dallas' issue was cap troubles after their big guns left. Hell, so were San Frans.How well did Steve Young do after playing behind perhaps the greatest QB of all time?

Young is the exception to the recent norm. Does anyone here honestly believe Aaron Rodgers is the next Steve Young? But Young also proves the point I made given how the Niners have had one decent QB (Garcia) and a lot of crap since Young retired. How other teams have fared since losing a Hall of Fame QB is extremely relevant if a consistent pattern emerges with each situation. And that is definitely the case. Some teams have gotten to the playoffs but none have gotten to a Super Bowl. So the idea that life will be so much better without Favre is a difficult one to embrace when one looks at how other teams have fared in recent history after losing a Hall of Fame QB. That's not to say the Packers can't buck the trend. Perhaps they can. But I think it's foolish to just assume all that Thompson needs is to be rid of Favre and then he'll start making his big moves. The smart approach would be to make his big moves now while he's guaranteed to have a good QB rather than trying to compensate for a possibly weak QB situation once Favre retires.

I think it's pretty obvious that Thompson is only looking for a Quarterback that won't lose games. He wants his defense to be the calling card of the team and to win games for the Packers. Aaron Rogers, when he finally gets to play, will only have to manage the offense, limit mistakes and capitalize on turnovers created by the defense. As for Thompson waiting to make 'big moves' I think anyone waiting for that is going to be waiting for a loooooooooong time, Favre or no. It's just not his style. He'll keep building through the draft, extending his core guys and picking up free agents only when needed. I think he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

 

[packersfan]

There seems to be a mindset going around with some Packer fans that the future is going to be so much brighter after Favre retires because that's when Thompson will really start making his strong moves. Well, that completely ignores the historical precedent which indicates (rather strongly) that life without Favre is going to be bad and possibly VERY bad for the team. If you look at the recent history of how teams have fared after losing a Hall of Fame QB none have gotten to a Super Bowl, much less won one and some teams like Dallas and Miami struggled badly for years at the QB position. Denver probably fared the best but even the Broncos haven't come close to duplicating the success they enjoyed with Elway. So the idea that things are going to be so much better once Favre is gone is one I simply do not agree with and history suggests is not going to be the case. So it makes sense for Thompson to act quickly and decisively now while he still has a good QB rather than waiting for that QB to leave. Even if Favre is no longer an elite QB (and I agree that he is not) the hole that will be left behind by his departure will likely prove to be enormous and one that could take the team years to recover from if recent history is any indication.

What other teams did in the past is completely irrelevant to how the Packers will do after Favre.The teams were set up different, built different, in different cap situations...and so on.The Packers are building up a team with a strong defense, and by the time Rodgers or whoever takes over, perhaps a strong Oline (average age just over 25) WRs hitting their prime (again average age of about 25). RB is the uncertainty for sure.But Im not sure about who all is saying things will be so much better when Favre leaves. There will be question marks for sure...but the teams aver age is just under 26. Depth is building up quite nicely and the QB might not be asked to do much more than not turn the ball over a ton. Add that to an already good cap situation becoming better when Favre's salary are off the books...and there should be some optimism.Dallas' issue was cap troubles after their big guns left. Hell, so were San Frans.How well did Steve Young do after playing behind perhaps the greatest QB of all time?

Young is the exception to the recent norm. Does anyone here honestly believe Aaron Rodgers is the next Steve Young? But Young also proves the point I made given how the Niners have had one decent QB (Garcia) and a lot of crap since Young retired. How other teams have fared since losing a Hall of Fame QB is extremely relevant if a consistent pattern emerges with each situation. And that is definitely the case. Some teams have gotten to the playoffs but none have gotten to a Super Bowl. So the idea that life will be so much better without Favre is a difficult one to embrace when one looks at how other teams have fared in recent history after losing a Hall of Fame QB. That's not to say the Packers can't buck the trend. Perhaps they can. But I think it's foolish to just assume all that Thompson needs is to be rid of Favre and then he'll start making his big moves. The smart approach would be to make his big moves now while he's guaranteed to have a good QB rather than trying to compensate for a possibly weak QB situation once Favre retires.

I was not trying to compare Young and Rodgers...just that it has been done.What other teams have done is not relevant as the players and situations and coaches and cap room and all of that are so different from team to team. And where is a quote from any Packer fan claiming life will be "so much better" as you are claiming? I have not read a single thing like that. That is quite different from just thinking that Thompson may spend more then. And he might since he is trying to build a team for the future and not just build around Favre's last ditch efforts for glory.Make big moves now with a 37 (almost 38) year old QB who mulls over retirement every offseason? Wow, I am glad you are not the GM.

If you're happy with Thompson's approach I can see how you wouldn't like what I propose. I don't like pissing seasons away and so far Thompson has pissed away two and maybe a third while still having one of the game's better QBs as the key figure of his team. If you want to believe life without Favre is going to be grand, be my guest. Having seen how several other teams have fared after losing their Hall of Fame QB you'll forgive me if I'm not that anxious to start prepping for Top 10-15 picks in the draft every year and just hoping that maybe, just maybe, this will be the year the Packers get to .500. I'm old enough to remember what life was like before Holmgren and Wolf got to town. I'm not all that excited to revisit those days again.

 

[Eagle Eye]

ESPN reporting Jackson as starting RB on Sunday.

NFL.com is reporting the same thing but, the last time I checked, the players don't make the decisions..."I'm pretty sure I'm the guy right now," Jackson said. "I guess coach and them will make that decision I guess tomorrow or Friday. Hopefully I'll get the start."

http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story?id=09000d...mp;confirm=true

Morency supporter here, but dude sat out the walk thru today......Hmmmm?

Where'd you see that reported?

 

[Dexter Manley]

I find it quite comical that people are calling BJax a bust when it's very likely he'll be the starting rb week 1, and the regular season has yet to even begin. Is possible, or even probable, that BJax will be a bust? Absolutely. But I think it's prudent to wait until at least one game has been played, or perhaps even a few (gasp), before making a "he's a bust!" declaration.

If you want to start calling rookie rb's busts right now, the names you're looking for are Irons and Pittman. I remember around draft time many people on these boards were touting these 2 guys as the top rb prospects after AD and Lynch, even though it was clear to me that they were both inferior prospects to BJax.

The biggest knock I've heard on BJax thus far, is his major issues with pass pro. Well, it's not exactly uncommon for a rookie rb to struggle with pass pro. The Eagles and Jim Jones' exotic blitz schemes should be an excellent test to see where BJax is at as far as picking up blitzes goes. The only other major knock on him is his durability and whether he can handle a full load.

IMO, the only reason he wasn't already named the starter for week 1 is because he's recovering from a concussion.

 

[sho nuff]

There seems to be a mindset going around with some Packer fans that the future is going to be so much brighter after Favre retires because that's when Thompson will really start making his strong moves. Well, that completely ignores the historical precedent which indicates (rather strongly) that life without Favre is going to be bad and possibly VERY bad for the team. If you look at the recent history of how teams have fared after losing a Hall of Fame QB none have gotten to a Super Bowl, much less won one and some teams like Dallas and Miami struggled badly for years at the QB position. Denver probably fared the best but even the Broncos haven't come close to duplicating the success they enjoyed with Elway. So the idea that things are going to be so much better once Favre is gone is one I simply do not agree with and history suggests is not going to be the case. So it makes sense for Thompson to act quickly and decisively now while he still has a good QB rather than waiting for that QB to leave. Even if Favre is no longer an elite QB (and I agree that he is not) the hole that will be left behind by his departure will likely prove to be enormous and one that could take the team years to recover from if recent history is any indication.

What other teams did in the past is completely irrelevant to how the Packers will do after Favre.The teams were set up different, built different, in different cap situations...and so on.The Packers are building up a team with a strong defense, and by the time Rodgers or whoever takes over, perhaps a strong Oline (average age just over 25) WRs hitting their prime (again average age of about 25). RB is the uncertainty for sure.But Im not sure about who all is saying things will be so much better when Favre leaves. There will be question marks for sure...but the teams aver age is just under 26. Depth is building up quite nicely and the QB might not be asked to do much more than not turn the ball over a ton. Add that to an already good cap situation becoming better when Favre's salary are off the books...and there should be some optimism.Dallas' issue was cap troubles after their big guns left. Hell, so were San Frans.How well did Steve Young do after playing behind perhaps the greatest QB of all time?

Young is the exception to the recent norm. Does anyone here honestly believe Aaron Rodgers is the next Steve Young? But Young also proves the point I made given how the Niners have had one decent QB (Garcia) and a lot of crap since Young retired. How other teams have fared since losing a Hall of Fame QB is extremely relevant if a consistent pattern emerges with each situation. And that is definitely the case. Some teams have gotten to the playoffs but none have gotten to a Super Bowl. So the idea that life will be so much better without Favre is a difficult one to embrace when one looks at how other teams have fared in recent history after losing a Hall of Fame QB. That's not to say the Packers can't buck the trend. Perhaps they can. But I think it's foolish to just assume all that Thompson needs is to be rid of Favre and then he'll start making his big moves. The smart approach would be to make his big moves now while he's guaranteed to have a good QB rather than trying to compensate for a possibly weak QB situation once Favre retires.

I was not trying to compare Young and Rodgers...just that it has been done.What other teams have done is not relevant as the players and situations and coaches and cap room and all of that are so different from team to team. And where is a quote from any Packer fan claiming life will be "so much better" as you are claiming? I have not read a single thing like that. That is quite different from just thinking that Thompson may spend more then. And he might since he is trying to build a team for the future and not just build around Favre's last ditch efforts for glory.Make big moves now with a 37 (almost 38) year old QB who mulls over retirement every offseason? Wow, I am glad you are not the GM.

If you're happy with Thompson's approach I can see how you wouldn't like what I propose. I don't like pissing seasons away and so far Thompson has pissed away two and maybe a third while still having one of the game's better QBs as the key figure of his team. If you want to believe life without Favre is going to be grand, be my guest. Having seen how several other teams have fared after losing their Hall of Fame QB you'll forgive me if I'm not that anxious to start prepping for Top 10-15 picks in the draft every year and just hoping that maybe, just maybe, this will be the year the Packers get to .500. I'm old enough to remember what life was like before Holmgren and Wolf got to town. I'm not all that excited to revisit those days again.

Im happy with him not overpaying marginal talent. Im happy with him not giving up ridiculous draft picks for guys who have not done much more than who they have on the roster.Im happy with how he has reorgainized and rebuilt this defense and the depth it has already. Im happy with how he continues to draft gems at WR. Im somewhat happy with how the Oline improved last year and hopefully will continue to do so and adding more depth there than they had in the past.Im happy he is not pandering to a 37 year old QB who almost retired the last 2 years.Where have I said that life after Favre is going to be grand? Again, I have asked you to show where anyone has claimed it will be so much better? But you cannot even do that.He pissed them away? I guess it had nothing to do with inheriting a team in big time cap trouble that was aging and had little to no depth right?I know what life was like before them as well (I lived 30 minutes from Lambeau during those years). But I also realize the salary cap era and changes in free agency have helped the Packers stay out of that for the past several years too (and yes, Favre was a big part of that too).

 

[mdog1967]

ESPN reporting Jackson as starting RB on Sunday.

NFL.com is reporting the same thing but, the last time I checked, the players don't make the decisions..."I'm pretty sure I'm the guy right now," Jackson said. "I guess coach and them will make that decision I guess tomorrow or Friday. Hopefully I'll get the start."

http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story?id=09000d...mp;confirm=true

Morency supporter here, but dude sat out the walk thru today......Hmmmm?

Where'd you see that reported?

http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspa...der/index.shtml

 

[Eagle Eye]

ESPN reporting Jackson as starting RB on Sunday.

NFL.com is reporting the same thing but, the last time I checked, the players don't make the decisions..."I'm pretty sure I'm the guy right now," Jackson said. "I guess coach and them will make that decision I guess tomorrow or Friday. Hopefully I'll get the start."

http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story?id=09000d...mp;confirm=true

Morency supporter here, but dude sat out the walk thru today......Hmmmm?

Where'd you see that reported?

http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspa...der/index.shtml

Thanks!

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

September 7, 2007, 16:53Packers :: RB, WR, DLPackers Injury Update; Good News For RB JacksonPackers.com - [Full Article]Green Bay Packers RBs Brandon Jackson and Ryan Grant practiced in full Friday. Jackson has been upgraded to probable and Grant remains questionable. RB Vernand Morency and WR Greg Jennings did not practice at all and both appear very questionable to play Sunday against the Eagles. WR Donald Driver practiced and has been upgraded to probable. DE Aaron Kampman missed a portion of practiced after sustaining a rib injury.

September 7, 2007, 13:11Packers :: RBRB Morency Still SoreTom Pelissero, Green Bay Press Gazette - [Full Article]Packers RB Vernand Morency's status for Sunday's game against Philadelphia remains uncertain. "He's a little sore today," HC Mike McCarthy said. "It's that whole thing of, you don't want to bring a guy back after as long as he's been out and risk setting him back another four or five weeks." Morency continues to nurse a knee injury.

 

[Wadsworth]

I own Morency is one league and keep getting trade offers from the Jackson owner either trying to get Morency from me or offering Jackson to me. My question is how much value does the Green Bay RB job have if one RB wins the job? And it isn't a lot more likely that both will get healthier and it ends up a RBBC?

 

[Dexter Manley]

I own Morency is one league and keep getting trade offers from the Jackson owner either trying to get Morency from me or offering Jackson to me. My question is how much value does the Green Bay RB job have if one RB wins the job? And it isn't a lot more likely that both will get healthier and it ends up a RBBC?

I've seen Morency's act, and I'm not buying. Unless Jackson wins the job, the position isn't worth much more than a bye week filler, imo. I'm in a 16 team league in which I own BJax. Guy in my division drafted Morency. Several rounds later I drafted Culpepper. He immediately offers me Morency for Culpepper on draft day (his other qb's were Garcia and Quinn, lol). I declined, although I would of thought about it if he wasn't in my division.

 

[Traders2001]

I own Morency is one league and keep getting trade offers from the Jackson owner either trying to get Morency from me or offering Jackson to me. My question is how much value does the Green Bay RB job have if one RB wins the job? And it isn't a lot more likely that both will get healthier and it ends up a RBBC?

I've seen Morency's act, and I'm not buying. Unless Jackson wins the job, the position isn't worth much more than a bye week filler, imo. I'm in a 16 team league in which I own BJax. Guy in my division drafted Morency. Several rounds later I drafted Culpepper. He immediately offers me Morency for Culpepper on draft day (his other qb's were Garcia and Quinn, lol). I declined, although I would of thought about it if he wasn't in my division.

Aniway Morency seems to have suffered a setback and wont play this week end it does nt look good for him .

 

[cincipd]

call me crazy but it is looking more an more like Jackson gets 90% of the carries this week. I'm taking a flyer and startin ghim over Peterson, C Taylor, Lynch, or M Barber

 

[fflnut]

Interested to hear people's thoughts on this now. Jackson didn't look too hot today. Not sure Morency would have done better though. Does this performance give Morency an edge - i.e. GB may want to throw him in there again to see how he looks again this year.

 

[switz]

Interested to hear people's thoughts on this now. Jackson didn't look too hot today. Not sure Morency would have done better though. Does this performance give Morency an edge - i.e. GB may want to throw him in there again to see how he looks again this year.

 

[mdog1967]

Interested to hear people's thoughts on this now. Jackson didn't look too hot today. Not sure Morency would have done better though. Does this performance give Morency an edge - i.e. GB may want to throw him in there again to see how he looks again this year.

Hey Switz... I think Jackson's Play so far says it all, still going down on first contact and WOW can he Block... He is damn lucky Farve aint busted him in the nose yet. Wouldnt suprise me to see it happen.

 

[mdog1967]

call me crazy but it is looking more an more like Jackson gets 90% of the carries this week. I'm taking a flyer and startin ghim over Peterson, C Taylor, Lynch, or M Barber

Hope you changed your mind befor the games started.

 

[gump]

Not saying this means anything...but Jaworski on SC said something like "the Packers are doing it without a running game, at least until Morency returns."

 

[mr. furley]

2 things

1) the Packers run blocking looks ATROCIOUS right now. horrible. no holes. no cutback lanes. nothing. they are consistently being overpowered at the point of attack. the next 3 games are going to be no joke for the running game. Jammal Williams, Kevin Williams and then the Bears. OUCH. don't expect any action in the run game. the Packers will win/lose on the strength of Favre and the receivers.

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice. :(

 

[packersfan]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice. :(

I heard the latter but not the former. Wouldn't surprise me, though. I've been posting in other threads that it's best not to expect Morency back anytime soon.

 

[Trap Play]

I heard the latter but not the former.

From a fantasy perspective if the former is true, it doesn't matter whether the latter is or isn't. Also, if Morency is headed to the IR, I see the Packers backfield continuing to be a mess for a long while. Deshawn Wynn may be worth a flyer, but I'm starting to think I may want a Sammy Morris type over any and all of these GB guys.

 

[packersfan]

I heard the latter but not the former.

From a fantasy perspective if the former is true, it doesn't matter whether the latter is or isn't. Also, if Morency is headed to the IR, I see the Packers backfield continuing to be a mess for a long while. Deshawn Wynn may be worth a flyer, but I'm starting to think I may want a Sammy Morris type over any and all of these GB guys.

I agree. I think a RB who gets 10-15 touches and possibly the goal-line looks on an elite offense has more value than a RB in a committee situation on a suspect offense.

 

[redman]

2 things1) the Packers run blocking looks ATROCIOUS right now. horrible. no holes. no cutback lanes. nothing. they are consistently being overpowered at the point of attack. the next 3 games are going to be no joke for the running game. Jammal Williams, Kevin Williams and then the Bears. OUCH. don't expect any action in the run game. the Packers will win/lose on the strength of Favre and the receivers.2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice. :(

 

[mdog1967]

2 things1) the Packers run blocking looks ATROCIOUS right now. horrible. no holes. no cutback lanes. nothing. they are consistently being overpowered at the point of attack. the next 3 games are going to be no joke for the running game. Jammal Williams, Kevin Williams and then the Bears. OUCH. don't expect any action in the run game. the Packers will win/lose on the strength of Favre and the receivers.2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Well when we get the word that its the IR then I can drop him for a by week Kicker, untill then he can stay buried on my bench.

 

[redman]

2 things1) the Packers run blocking looks ATROCIOUS right now. horrible. no holes. no cutback lanes. nothing. they are consistently being overpowered at the point of attack. the next 3 games are going to be no joke for the running game. Jammal Williams, Kevin Williams and then the Bears. OUCH. don't expect any action in the run game. the Packers will win/lose on the strength of Favre and the receivers.2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice. :whoosh:

Well when we get the word that its the IR then I can drop him for a by week Kicker, untill then he can stay buried on my bench.

Yeah, well when you've drafted and held the guy and thought he was finally getting his chance to start this year only to see this, it's still a bummer. It is not like losing a child in a way, however.

 

[captbly]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

 

[mr. furley]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

 

[mdog1967]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

 

[moleculo]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

Furley doesn't fish. I'm not saying drop him now, but it would be prudent to have a back-up plan.eta: Furley doesn't fish WRT the Packers, I should have said.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

Why not just take it for what it's worth? I personally like seeing inside info that isn't confirmed by ESPN just yet. Just realize that it could in fact be BS.

 

[yellowdog]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

Why not just take it for what it's worth? I personally like seeing inside info that isn't confirmed by ESPN just yet. Just realize that it could in fact be BS.

Furley>>>>>Mort/Clayton/Pasquerelli

 

[RamMan]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

Why not just take it for what it's worth? I personally like seeing inside info that isn't confirmed by ESPN just yet. Just realize that it could in fact be BS.

Hope I'm not giving out some sort of highly secretivey subscriber stuff here (not quite sure what FBG's policy is with this stuff), but FBG's "Players in the News" had this to say about Morency today:RB Vernand Morency (GB) will likely be back to practice Wednesday and is making improvement. He's practiced the last two Wednesday's but had to pull back on Thursday due to soreness. Doesn't sound like IR talk to me....

 

[mr. furley]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice. :(

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

notice how nowhere in my post does it say "this is a fact" or "lock this up" or "i know for a fact"?perhaps you missed where i said "like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth."in other words, "take that for what it's worth". choose to use the info as part of your considerations or don't. i'm not telling you that you must abide by my 2nd hand word. nobody said anything about dropping anyone.

 

[mr. furley]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

Furley doesn't fish.

I'm not saying drop him now, but it would be prudent to have a back-up plan.eta: Furley doesn't fish WRT the Packers, I should have said.

exactly. i don't muck about with Packers news. i wouldn't post it if i didn't trust the guy who i heard it from. just throwing it out there for people's consumption. if people reacted to every rumor they heard and started dumping players.... well...... i don't even know what to say to that.

 

[mr. furley]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

Why not just take it for what it's worth? I personally like seeing inside info that isn't confirmed by ESPN just yet. Just realize that it could in fact be BS.

Hope I'm not giving out some sort of highly secretivey subscriber stuff here (not quite sure what FBG's policy is with this stuff), but FBG's "Players in the News" had this to say about Morency today:RB Vernand Morency (GB) will likely be back to practice Wednesday and is making improvement. He's practiced the last two Wednesday's but had to pull back on Thursday due to soreness. Doesn't sound like IR talk to me....

yeah, and he's practiced in the past and been pulled after Thursday because of knee pain the past few weeks too. that same blurb coulda been written the past 3-4 weeks. each week he practices one day, gets "sore" and sits.

 

[Big Score]

2) rumor around here is that Morency is headed for the IR. i'm being told that he continually reinjures that knee every time he tries to practice.

Really? I dont know if I buy that or not. Seems they would have already put him on IR if it is that bad. The owner in my league has dropped him already and I am thinking of picking him up for the end of the season.

like i said.. just a rumor.the guy i heard it from is usually pretty spot-on with his info. take that for what it's worth.

I'm calling BS and fraud untill I see some confirmation. Lets gets some links when we post these kinda of things that get people to drop players. I have herd too many "my Friend Said" .

Hey mdog1967, how's it going?Normally I'm with you on posts where somebody says "I heard from so & so that _______" but if you hang on these boards long enough, you get to know the posters who are, how shall we say, more credible? Then you get to know the posters who are followers of a specific team & besides having a fairly substantial football knowledge, they're almost experts on their homer team.

The above describes furley in regards to football in general & the Pack in particular, so I think it'd be wise to do as moleculo & ItsOnlytheRiver suggest. Don't run out & cut Morency just yet, but keep this info in the back of your mind & have a back up plan ready just in case.

 

[mr. furley]

Don't run out & cut Morency just yet, but keep this info in the back of your mind & have a back up plan ready just in case.

thank you for boiling it down to a single sentence.

 

[packersfan]

As I posted earlier, I've heard similar info that Furley is posting. I haven't heard the IR talk but I have heard Morency may not be ready for the next few weeks. Take it for what that's worth.

 

[Eagle Eye]

Question for the packers guys:

Assume Morency makes it through practice this week without the recurring soreness. Is he a lock to nail down the feature back role in light of the weak competition he's facing?

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Question for the packers guys:Assume Morency makes it through practice this week without the recurring soreness. Is he a lock to nail down the feature back role in light of the weak competition he's facing?

My guess would be yes - if/when he's healthy.Jackson has shown almost nothing - the OL hasn't been great (or even good), but a decent RB could've made some plays with what he's seen. Jackson is just far too hesitant into/through the hole.Wynn - he looks like a serviceable back, and he looks probably better than Jackson, but compared to what Morency showed when he was healthy last year, both Jackson & Wynn are a notch below, IMO.

 

[mdog1967]

Don't run out & cut Morency just yet, but keep this info in the back of your mind & have a back up plan ready just in case.

thank you for boiling it down to a single sentence.

Mr FurleyIt was not personal, I have read your posts and threads and always come back for more. And I would never question your truthfullness, just the interpretation of the information your insider made of what he or she is hearing in GB. It is very difficult to keep anything out of the Media(except for filming Defensive signals). So in my mind it would seem that the information would have cycled thru by now, and it still may very well be the case. Because of your credentials on this forum, your passing along a rumor can be viewed as word by many, many people. Mr Foley said X.... may happen or could be turns into they are rather than the latter. No offense intended.

 

[mr. furley]

Question for the packers guys:Assume Morency makes it through practice this week without the recurring soreness. Is he a lock to nail down the feature back role in light of the weak competition he's facing?

'lock' is a strong word

 

[mr. furley]

Don't run out & cut Morency just yet, but keep this info in the back of your mind & have a back up plan ready just in case.

thank you for boiling it down to a single sentence.

Mr FurleyIt was not personal, I have read your posts and threads and always come back for more. And I would never question your truthfullness, just the interpretation of the information your insider made of what he or she is hearing in GB. It is very difficult to keep anything out of the Media(except for filming Defensive signals). So in my mind it would seem that the information would have cycled thru by now, and it still may very well be the case. Because of your credentials on this forum, your passing along a rumor can be viewed as word by many, many people. Mr Foley said X.... may happen or could be turns into they are rather than the latter. No offense intended.

none taken

 

[Eagle Eye]

Question for the packers guys:Assume Morency makes it through practice this week without the recurring soreness. Is he a lock to nail down the feature back role in light of the weak competition he's facing?

'lock' is a strong word

OK. Would your guess be that he steps into the featured role, a RBBC role, or as a reserve behind the dreck currently running the ball for the Pack? (Not for this week, I mean down the road)

 

[bcr8f]

I think it's a RB/RB/RB/RB/BC and whoever does better the next few games they will go with. Blocking blitzing backers is a key component.

Right now Jackson is still the listed starter.

 

[mr. furley]

Question for the packers guys:Assume Morency makes it through practice this week without the recurring soreness. Is he a lock to nail down the feature back role in light of the weak competition he's facing?

'lock' is a strong word

OK. Would your guess be that he steps into the featured role, a RBBC role, or as a reserve behind the dreck currently running the ball for the Pack? (Not for this week, I mean down the road)

i have said all along that i thought Jackson was the guy even if Morency was healthy. even through the pre-season when he looked less than stellar.after 2 games of the regular season i am having doubts. he looks tentative. like he's thinking too much. part of that i'm sure is nerves from the first action of his career and part of that has to be the Packers cramming the entire playbook down his throat.IF Morency comes back healthy and the blocking does not improve until then.. i think you'll see the Packers try to work him in more and more.. see how he fares. i doubt that they'd immediately make him the #1 and go 80/20 with the carries. hard to say but i think it'll be much closer to 50/50 right off... then it depends on how they each fare.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

For what it's worth, in the new depth chart released by the Packers today, Wynn is the #2 RB and Morency and Grant are sharing the #3 spot. Prior to today, Morency was at #2.