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My son just beat up the school bully. (1 Viewer)

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So my bigger twin had a "fight" today at school. Apparently, the "bully" said something about my son's athletic ability or lack their of, and so my son pushed down the other kid, and proceeded to punch him in the head. They are both in 5th grade which is the oldest class in this school. The P.E. teacher broke up this skirmish and told my son don't worry about this everything is ok, and proceeded to tell him that the other kid will received a lot more "butt whuppin's" next year when they go to Middle School.

My wife mind you grew up in a very affluent family/neighborhood/school system never received a spanking (well until we met!) caught me off guard when she said, "you should have punched a few more times in the face, and once we was on the ground you should have kicked him in the head!" I was like "SLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW down!" Mind you I grew up in a pretty rough part of town, always saw fights daily, was always getting "kicked" out of school for fighting, drugs were all over the place, never got a of spanking compared to being hit up side my head, or just verbally brow beaten. And, I had to be the voice of reason.

We speak to our son and come to find out several kids have transferred from his class to other classes because of the bully's behavior. Seems the bully has been a disruption all year, and causes the entire class to miss recess, or whatever fun entertainment is scheduled for the week. When my wife spoke to these other kids parents they stated, "when we spoke to the school about the bully's picking our kids, they wanted the kids to resolve the conflict among themselves."

So my wife proceeds to tell our son, "It is your duty the rest of the year to make sure the bully doesn't pick on anyone else!" "If the school is not going to protect these little kids, and wants them to resolve the problems among themselves, why By Golly you are now everyone's bodyguard!"

So, after my wife spits fire and venom because her little boy is in his first "Fight" calms down, I take him aside and say "buddy if you are in a fight with someone and they show signs of giving up, covering their head, rolling over, running away the fight is over. No need to keep punching on a kid once your point has been made." My son goes on to say that he is so mad at the bully because the teacher has to yell at him all the time during class about being a disruption taking time way from doing fun stuff. I told him that their is only a few weeks left of this school year, and hopefully next year will be better. But, each year will bring a different challenge and you have to be able to cope with A-holes your entire life, you don't get to leave them in 5th grade, they follow you forever.

Today is his first day back after the "rumble" so we will see what transpired when he gets home. Also, have not heard from the teacher yet.

:FIGHT:

 
So my bigger twin had a "fight" today at school. Apparently, the "bully" said something about my son's athletic ability or lack their of, and so my son pushed down the other kid, and proceeded to punch him in the head. They are both in 5th grade which is the oldest class in this school. The P.E. teacher broke up this skirmish and told my son don't worry about this everything is ok, and proceeded to tell him that the other kid will received a lot more "butt whuppin's" next year when they go to Middle School.

My wife mind you grew up in a very affluent family/neighborhood/school system never received a spanking (well until we met!) caught me off guard when she said, "you should have punched a few more times in the face, and once we was on the ground you should have kicked him in the head!" I was like "SLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW down!" Mind you I grew up in a pretty rough part of town, always saw fights daily, was always getting "kicked" out of school for fighting, drugs were all over the place, never got a of spanking compared to being hit up side my head, or just verbally brow beaten. And, I had to be the voice of reason.

We speak to our son and come to find out several kids have transferred from his class to other classes because of the bully's behavior. Seems the bully has been a disruption all year, and causes the entire class to miss recess, or whatever fun entertainment is scheduled for the week. When my wife spoke to these other kids parents they stated, "when we spoke to the school about the bully's picking our kids, they wanted the kids to resolve the conflict among themselves."

So my wife proceeds to tell our son, "It is your duty the rest of the year to make sure the bully doesn't pick on anyone else!" "If the school is not going to protect these little kids, and wants them to resolve the problems among themselves, why By Golly you are now everyone's bodyguard!"

So, after my wife spits fire and venom because her little boy is in his first "Fight" calms down, I take him aside and say "buddy if you are in a fight with someone and they show signs of giving up, covering their head, rolling over, running away the fight is over. No need to keep punching on a kid once your point has been made." My son goes on to say that he is so mad at the bully because the teacher has to yell at him all the time during class about being a disruption taking time way from doing fun stuff. I told him that their is only a few weeks left of this school year, and hopefully next year will be better. But, each year will bring a different challenge and you have to be able to cope with A-holes your entire life, you don't get to leave them in 5th grade, they follow you forever.

Today is his first day back after the "rumble" so we will see what transpired when he gets home. Also, have not heard from the teacher yet.

:FIGHT:
Man, your wife went hardcore.

 
Today is his first day back after the "rumble" so we will see what transpired when he gets home. Also, have not heard from the teacher yet.
I've seen a lot of movies so your son is now friends with the bully.

 
You're teaching him right, IMHO. Fight if you have to/are forced to, be tough but smart and stop as soon as it's over.

:boxing:

 
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You say he's a bully but the only thing you point out that he has done wrong is being disruptive in class and telling your son he's not a good athlete. Those things are not bullying. Does he actually bully other kids?

Because if what you mention is the sum of his transgressions he really doesn't deserve to get beat up. Just sayin'.

 
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! :excited:

Good for your kid taking it upon himself to act in that situation, and your wife's over reaction is awesome, but you did he right thing letting slugger know when to knock it off. Nothing worse than hearing about some playground scuffle that ends up really injuring some poor kid.

 
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So, after my wife spits fire and venom because her little boy is in his first "Fight" calms down, I take him aside and say "buddy if you are in a fight with someone and they show signs of giving up, covering their head, rolling over, running away the fight is over. No need to keep punching on a kid once your point has been made." My son goes on to say that he is so mad at the bully because the teacher has to yell at him all the time during class about being a disruption taking time way from doing fun stuff. I told him that their is only a few weeks left of this school year, and hopefully next year will be better. But, each year will bring a different challenge and you have to be able to cope with A-holes your entire life, you don't get to leave them in 5th grade, they follow you forever.
Solid advice.

This is also why if I am challenged to a fight, I drop to the ground and start masturbating. :stillundefeated:

 
Did your son mock the other kid with a rousing chant of "baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk."

 
Oh yeah, well when she was in the 8th grade my daughter broke the school bully's nose! She didn't mean to, but, she, did, that. He spit in her hair, which was also accidental. She did a no look spinning back fist type thing with no training whatsoever, just pissed to be spit on, and, it, landed, perfectly. They were and still are friends (hs sophomores).

Of course, broken noses are taken very seriously. There was a police report. She was suspended. So was he. They took this so seriously, and I just couldn't. They explained it to me, and I knew I was hearing trumped up BS from this school counselor. No way they get in a serious altercation that comes to blows. I made sure my kid was unharmed and tried not to take it too lightly.

"Mr. Chaos. This is very serious. Another incident and she could be expelled. I have no idea if his parents are going to want to press charges."

Me trying not to laugh. "She broke Lucas's nose? 6-2 250 pound Lucas? THAT LUCAS!? Whoa. That's awesome." :lol:

"Mr. Chaos, I don't think you understand the gravity..."

"Of spitting in my kid's hair? I do now." :lol:

My kid was scared badly by the way they handled it. A police report, suspension, mean old dad coming to pick her up. She cried for an hour before I got there. She got in the car crying and apologizing and begging me to listen and not be mad. I said, "You done?" She was. I said, "High five?"

:hifive:

Still cracks me up.

 
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So my bigger twin had a "fight" today at school. Apparently, the "bully" said something about my son's athletic ability or lack their of, and so my son pushed down the other kid, and proceeded to punch him in the head. They are both in 5th grade which is the oldest class in this school. The P.E. teacher broke up this skirmish and told my son don't worry about this everything is ok, and proceeded to tell him that the other kid will received a lot more "butt whuppin's" next year when they go to Middle School.

My wife mind you grew up in a very affluent family/neighborhood/school system never received a spanking (well until we met!) caught me off guard when she said, "you should have punched a few more times in the face, and once we was on the ground you should have kicked him in the head!" I was like "SLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW down!" Mind you I grew up in a pretty rough part of town, always saw fights daily, was always getting "kicked" out of school for fighting, drugs were all over the place, never got a of spanking compared to being hit up side my head, or just verbally brow beaten. And, I had to be the voice of reason.

We speak to our son and come to find out several kids have transferred from his class to other classes because of the bully's behavior. Seems the bully has been a disruption all year, and causes the entire class to miss recess, or whatever fun entertainment is scheduled for the week. When my wife spoke to these other kids parents they stated, "when we spoke to the school about the bully's picking our kids, they wanted the kids to resolve the conflict among themselves."

So my wife proceeds to tell our son, "It is your duty the rest of the year to make sure the bully doesn't pick on anyone else!" "If the school is not going to protect these little kids, and wants them to resolve the problems among themselves, why By Golly you are now everyone's bodyguard!"

So, after my wife spits fire and venom because her little boy is in his first "Fight" calms down, I take him aside and say "buddy if you are in a fight with someone and they show signs of giving up, covering their head, rolling over, running away the fight is over. No need to keep punching on a kid once your point has been made." My son goes on to say that he is so mad at the bully because the teacher has to yell at him all the time during class about being a disruption taking time way from doing fun stuff. I told him that their is only a few weeks left of this school year, and hopefully next year will be better. But, each year will bring a different challenge and you have to be able to cope with A-holes your entire life, you don't get to leave them in 5th grade, they follow you forever.

Today is his first day back after the "rumble" so we will see what transpired when he gets home. Also, have not heard from the teacher yet.

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Man, your wife went hardcore.
Joey Styles?

 
Sorry got tired of typing earlier. Yeah the kid pushes kid down on the playground, was forcing one kid help cheat on work, basically telling kids they suck at this or they suck at that blah, blah, blah, basically just "picking" on smaller kids or kids that don't want any trouble.

My son arrived home asked him if anything happened today, "nope." was all I got. His twin says, "oh, there was something today alright! Zack punched him several times on the playground and made the kid cry!"

Apparently, the bully was talking trash again about how he had actually beat up Zack and not the other way around....blah blah blah, Zack punches him several times, bully runs off to tell teacher. Teacher tells bully kid "to go sit down and be quiet and stop making up stories!" :lol:

After that Zack asks his Mother, "whats to eat?" So, it seems like no big deal for my son, but my other son thinks that his brother is the bee's knees atm.

Also, no reply from the school.

 
Today is his first day back after the "rumble" so we will see what transpired when he gets home. Also, have not heard from the teacher yet.
What's the school's punishment these days for fighting?
We live in Oklahoma, so they actually still suspend kids from school still. 3 days suspension no tolerance policy for fighting. Receive a zero for all work that is to be done during the 3 day suspension. Pretty harsh.

 
Today is his first day back after the "rumble" so we will see what transpired when he gets home. Also, have not heard from the teacher yet.
What's the school's punishment these days for fighting?
We live in Oklahoma, so they actually still suspend kids from school still. 3 days suspension no tolerance policy for fighting. Receive a zero for all work that is to be done during the 3 day suspension. Pretty harsh.
In California she got one day. They didn't mess with school work. It is a zero tolerance policy. The only way to avoid suspension if someone attacks you is to not defend yourself. :shrug:

 
Today is his first day back after the "rumble" so we will see what transpired when he gets home. Also, have not heard from the teacher yet.
What's the school's punishment these days for fighting?
We live in Oklahoma, so they actually still suspend kids from school still. 3 days suspension no tolerance policy for fighting. Receive a zero for all work that is to be done during the 3 day suspension. Pretty harsh.
In California she got one day. They didn't mess with school work. It is a zero tolerance policy. The only way to avoid suspension if someone attacks you is to not defend yourself. :shrug:
I never understood this policy.

 
You need to clear a couple things up with your kid. First and foremost, if there is ever a fight and the kid goes down, the head is off limits. If the person standing is going after the head in anyway (stomping, punching, kicking, whatever), there is going to be much more trouble coming to the kid doing those actions. Explain this to the wife and the kid.

Fighting is never the answer so explain this to him. The wife said some "bad" things for a 5th grader to hear. Fix that.

 
Do you think there is some guy posting over on a baseball forum somewhere like "well, my kid is a bully and a piece of crap, and he finally got what was coming to him today."

 
Sorry got tired of typing earlier. Yeah the kid pushes kid down on the playground, was forcing one kid help cheat on work, basically telling kids they suck at this or they suck at that blah, blah, blah, basically just "picking" on smaller kids or kids that don't want any trouble.

My son arrived home asked him if anything happened today, "nope." was all I got. His twin says, "oh, there was something today alright! Zack punched him several times on the playground and made the kid cry!"

Apparently, the bully was talking trash again about how he had actually beat up Zack and not the other way around....blah blah blah, Zack punches him several times, bully runs off to tell teacher. Teacher tells bully kid "to go sit down and be quiet and stop making up stories!" :lol:

After that Zack asks his Mother, "whats to eat?" So, it seems like no big deal for my son, but my other son thinks that his brother is the bee's knees atm.

Also, no reply from the school.
Even if the other kid is a bully, if my kid was the first one to throw a punch, and only because the other kid was lying about him, that would bother me.

ETA- that's twice now, according to you, that your son has started punching the other kid not because of anything the other kid did, but because of stuff the other kid said.

 
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I'm not sure what is more disturbing - the teachers' apathy about kids getting hit several times by another kid, or your wife telling your son that he should kick a guy in the head while he's on the ground because that guy said he sucked at sports.

Probably your wife.

Keep an eye out, ff the "bully" ever actually does something physical, your wife will be giving your son a shiv.

 
back in my day, bullies used to bang my sister and force me to listen from the next room

 
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Sorry got tired of typing earlier. Yeah the kid pushes kid down on the playground, was forcing one kid help cheat on work, basically telling kids they suck at this or they suck at that blah, blah, blah, basically just "picking" on smaller kids or kids that don't want any trouble.

My son arrived home asked him if anything happened today, "nope." was all I got. His twin says, "oh, there was something today alright! Zack punched him several times on the playground and made the kid cry!"

Apparently, the bully was talking trash again about how he had actually beat up Zack and not the other way around....blah blah blah, Zack punches him several times, bully runs off to tell teacher. Teacher tells bully kid "to go sit down and be quiet and stop making up stories!" :lol:

After that Zack asks his Mother, "whats to eat?" So, it seems like no big deal for my son, but my other son thinks that his brother is the bee's knees atm.

Also, no reply from the school.
Even if the other kid is a bully, if my kid was the first one to throw a punch, and only because the other kid was lying about him, that would bother me.ETA- that's twice now, according to you, that your son has started punching the other kid not because of anything the other kid did, but because of stuff the other kid said.
Schooled by Tim.

 
Once in preschool this kid said the Asianed Wiggle slept too much, so my kid stabbed him in the eye with a #2 pencil. Words hurt.

 
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Like the OP I got in a few fights growing up. Mostly between 11-15 IIRC. Seems like (limited Info) the bigger twin started the physical altercation portion both times. Not good; that's some lousy conflict resolution. Good teaching opportunity here IMO.

That said, I don't know if we have all the details. I know there were a couple situations growing up where there was no third option, at least not one a young mind could grasp. There were times when, regrettably, I had to fight - to stand up for myself, to protect someone I cared about, or just to call bull#### and put an end to a situation. I think the kid went after the bully because stuff had built up & he decided enough was enough.

Not the best move but I think I understand why he did it. But then again I fed my parents a lot of baloney so I don't know if know all the dynamics of what went down.

 
Took a page from your son today at work. A colleague said Breaking Bad was solid, but not great. I dropped him like a bag of dirt in our kitchenette.

 
Sorry got tired of typing earlier. Yeah the kid pushes kid down on the playground, was forcing one kid help cheat on work, basically telling kids they suck at this or they suck at that blah, blah, blah, basically just "picking" on smaller kids or kids that don't want any trouble.

My son arrived home asked him if anything happened today, "nope." was all I got. His twin says, "oh, there was something today alright! Zack punched him several times on the playground and made the kid cry!"

Apparently, the bully was talking trash again about how he had actually beat up Zack and not the other way around....blah blah blah, Zack punches him several times, bully runs off to tell teacher. Teacher tells bully kid "to go sit down and be quiet and stop making up stories!" :lol:

After that Zack asks his Mother, "whats to eat?" So, it seems like no big deal for my son, but my other son thinks that his brother is the bee's knees atm.

Also, no reply from the school.
I fought with a bully in 7th grade and I got a lot of respect from her afterwards.

 

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