Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
They gave him the ball to run out the clock because Fred Taylor got hurt again. Assuming Taylor ever gets healthy he is still the most talented rb they have even at 34 years old.
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zamboni
Footballguy
Maybe, but after BJGE's performance, he's likely made a strong case for himself going forward.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
BenJarvus Green-Ellis
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
B. Green-Ellis 16 98 1 22
NEP hasn't had a good ground game in a while .... they're lean on RB's, they traded Maroney, Fred get nicked ................ can we believe BenJarvus Green-Ellis and start him every week?
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
B. Green-Ellis 16 98 1 22
NEP hasn't had a good ground game in a while .... they're lean on RB's, they traded Maroney, Fred get nicked ................ can we believe BenJarvus Green-Ellis and start him every week?
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Marshawn Lynch...shhhhh
trader jake
Footballguy
Whoever Belichick and Shanahan have listed as their #1 back...go grab the #3 or #4 guy cheap and hope it goes your way. If you own guys like Law Firm that strategy should already be paying dividends. No need to worry about "trust" because there is none with them and starting RB's of late.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
What happened to Fred?
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
ef hutton!!
killrobotkill
Footballguy
nysportsfan
Footballguy
On board as injuries mount.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
He's probably the best RB on the wire this week so far. That's not saying much though. I grabbed him but I have no idea what to expect. The Patriots are just as likely to keep throwing the ball even if they have a 30 point lead, so 
Is anyone aware of Fred Taylor's status heading into next week? Haven't heard much since he left the game yesterday.
Despite all the hype about Green-Ellis this week, Taylor remains the Patriots starting rb as well as their best rb. If Taylor could stay healthy (that is a massive if) he could be a decent 3rd rb/flex option.
Despite all the hype about Green-Ellis this week, Taylor remains the Patriots starting rb as well as their best rb. If Taylor could stay healthy (that is a massive if) he could be a decent 3rd rb/flex option.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
red stripe
Footballguy
This is the Patriots we're talking about; no ones gonna know jack until 30 minutes before game time Monday night.
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
Despite all the hype that the law firm is getting I still think Taylor is the Pat's best rb if healthy. Don't get me wrong I know that is a big if, but Taylor could be productive in the Pat's powerhouse offense.By all accounts Green-Ellis is a really hard working guy, but I don't see him as having #1 rb skill set. That's not to say he won't have a role, but on the rare occasion that Taylor is healthy it is clear that he is much more talented even at 34 years of age.
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Chaka
Footballguy
I don't think that is clear at all.Law Firm is averaging 4.5 ypc on his 31 attempts to Fred's 3.8 on 25 carries. There are possible explanations to that but it is not hard to imagine a 25 year old BJGE being as good as a 34 year old Freddy.
zamboni
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killrobotkill
Footballguy
jerseys finest
Footballguy
did the same thing but with brandon jackson instead. bjax obviously didn't grab the lead back reigns in GB. cut the loss now, see if benny can take the reigns in NE.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Any info on Fred Taylor? What did he even hurt?
What kind of role could Danny Woodhead play here, if any?
What kind of role could Danny Woodhead play here, if any?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Taylor has a turf toe injury that has limited him to some extent.Woodhead probably will only get a few plays a game and will likely be used in a limited extent filling in situationally for Faulk.
Yudkin - what's your take on the NE RB's going forward? My sense is that we don't get away from RBBC, but does BJGE get enough to be a RB2/3 or FLEX with or without a Taylor injury?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
BJGE is probably a flex play during the rash of bye weeks coming up. I don't think he will get the ball enough to be a consistent fantasy RB if Taylor is playing. He only gets an occasional pass and if he doesn't get a TD his weekly fantasy totals will be on the low side. He looked good against the Bills, but so do a lot of backs.A lot will depend on the defense. If the Pats get behind, they generally don't pass very much. That's more likely to happen on the road. I'm still waiting for Morris to get a bigger role, so I wonder if he has a nagging injury that is not getting reported. He looked pretty good in the preseason.I think we may see more diversity in the running game like we saw against the Bills, Woodhead, Edelman, Hernandez, Tate, etc. getting a couple rushes here and there. I don't suspect the Pats will have many games with 40 rushing attempts and 200 rushing yards.
packersfan
Footballguy
He's on my blind bid list this week. I'm dropping Felix Jones. If I get him I'd be trading one RBBC option for another but at least with BJGE there appears to be a good chance he'll get 12-15 carries some weeks and the goal-line looks.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Any recent news on Taylor, his toe, and his usage?David Yudkin said:
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Today is the first day of practice this week for NE. Nothing to report as of yet. I would guess he will be listed as limited in practice later today, but I doubt there is any real news.
Yeah, they said he's not practicing today at all. You've got to think Green-Ellis is going to get most of the carries next week when they do run the football.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Taylor has missed the first practice of the week already once or twice this year. We won't have a good perspective on this until much later in the week. If he is listed as probable on the weekend injury report he will play. If he is listed as questionable then things start to get dicier.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Fred Taylor (toe) sidelined at practice
September, 29, 2010
By Mike Reiss
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Veteran running back Fred Taylor, who left Sunday's win over the Bills in the third quarter with a toe injury and did not return, was not spotted at the start of the team's practice today.
Taylor played 10 snaps against the Bills. He was on for two plays at the start of the third quarter before giving way to BenJarvus Green-Ellis.
Patriots coach Bill Belichick touched on Taylor's status on Monday, saying the plan was for Taylor to get treatment on Monday and Tuesday and see if he'd be ready for practice Wednesday.
Without Taylor, the Patriots had Green-Ellis, Sammy Morris, Danny Woodhead and practice squader Javarris James at running back at the start of today's practice.
Elsewhere, cornerback Terrence Wheatley (foot) and offensive lineman Nick Kaczur (back) remain out of practice, while rookie receiver Taylor Price (ankle) returned after missing last Friday's workout.
The team was in full pads, which could mean a chance to work on tackling. That was an area in which the Patriots struggled against the Bills on Sunday.
September, 29, 2010
By Mike Reiss
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Veteran running back Fred Taylor, who left Sunday's win over the Bills in the third quarter with a toe injury and did not return, was not spotted at the start of the team's practice today.
Taylor played 10 snaps against the Bills. He was on for two plays at the start of the third quarter before giving way to BenJarvus Green-Ellis.
Patriots coach Bill Belichick touched on Taylor's status on Monday, saying the plan was for Taylor to get treatment on Monday and Tuesday and see if he'd be ready for practice Wednesday.
Without Taylor, the Patriots had Green-Ellis, Sammy Morris, Danny Woodhead and practice squader Javarris James at running back at the start of today's practice.
Elsewhere, cornerback Terrence Wheatley (foot) and offensive lineman Nick Kaczur (back) remain out of practice, while rookie receiver Taylor Price (ankle) returned after missing last Friday's workout.
The team was in full pads, which could mean a chance to work on tackling. That was an area in which the Patriots struggled against the Bills on Sunday.
WOW6616
Footballguy
In point structures that award 1 point per carry this guy could be a nice surprise, I just picked him up in one such league and am cautiously optimistic about what this guy could bring to my team, he could be used in much the same way that Kevin Faulk was used and he's eligible to play in the WR position. Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking? Or have I lost my mind? Hahaha
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Ellis got some good production last week....for folks struggling with RBs thanks to Ryan Matthews, Ryan Grant, Knowshon Moreno, Buffalo RBBC mess, Miami RBBC mess, Ray Rice etc being useless/ineffective right now, is Ellis the pick up here for the next few weeks? That offense is going to get lots of red zone looks.
What is the view from NE homers?
What is the view from NE homers?
gary mexico
Footballguy
Is Taylor listed as Out already??
I've been higher on BJGE winning this job or becoming the useable back out of that backfield than most, but there's absolutely no way I would bench Ray Rice for BJGE this week, even if I got a guarantee of Taylor being out and even with Rice somewhat banged up and playing the Steelers. If Rice plays, you have to start him.
That tangent aside, people are too stubbornly dug in on BJGE hate that they're missing what's in front of them. New England's defense is questionable. The Patriots are going to score a lot. Fred Taylor is already showing signs he's going to be on the injury report almost every week, and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench if healthy.
The bottom line is the Patriots are still going to win their fair share of games and Belicheck is going to feed someone the ball to control the clock late in games and keep the Pats defense fresh and used minimally. Green-Ellis is the only guy on the team capable of fulfilling that role at this point and actually being effective, because of how he runs.
He's not great. He's not an elite talent by any means. But he's going to get a quantifiable number of touches a game (12-18), including on the goalline, against a lot worn out defenses late.
He's a great depth add and a decent option for bye week and FLEX starts.
packersfan
Footballguy
The plot thickens:
MikeReiss
Seeing RB Thomas Clayton in locker room makes me wonder if the Pats think Fred Taylor (toe) won't be ready for Monday's game.
MikeReiss
Seeing RB Thomas Clayton in locker room makes me wonder if the Pats think Fred Taylor (toe) won't be ready for Monday's game.
killrobotkill
Footballguy
Any insight on whether Clayton will cut into BJGE's playing time this week?
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Danny Woodhead
RB Danny Woodhead drew effusive praise from teammates and coaches after his first performance with the Patriots. "I like Woody," wide receiver Randy Moss declared, with a grin, after the Bills game. "He's a little stub guy, a little short (guy). He runs hard and has some nice cuts. I'm not disrespecting him, and I know it's hard to replace Kevin Faulk, but hopefully he can come in and be Woodhead and not try to be Kevin. I think we liked the things we saw out there." "If you can see him back there," added Tom Brady, half-jokingly. "It's hard. He crouches down. He's tucked in there behind the center. He did great. What an impressive performance for a guy who's been here for 10 minutes. He did a great job." "Danny really did a good job," head coach Bill Belichick affirmed. "He came in here and really started grinding through it on Monday and then Tuesday -- the off day -- and Wednesday. He had a pretty good week. We put him in practice on Friday and he was pretty good on all of his assignments and everything he had to do. We didn't ask him to do everything, but I think he's working pretty hard at it. He picked it up pretty quickly. He seems like a smart guy."
RB Danny Woodhead drew effusive praise from teammates and coaches after his first performance with the Patriots. "I like Woody," wide receiver Randy Moss declared, with a grin, after the Bills game. "He's a little stub guy, a little short (guy). He runs hard and has some nice cuts. I'm not disrespecting him, and I know it's hard to replace Kevin Faulk, but hopefully he can come in and be Woodhead and not try to be Kevin. I think we liked the things we saw out there." "If you can see him back there," added Tom Brady, half-jokingly. "It's hard. He crouches down. He's tucked in there behind the center. He did great. What an impressive performance for a guy who's been here for 10 minutes. He did a great job." "Danny really did a good job," head coach Bill Belichick affirmed. "He came in here and really started grinding through it on Monday and then Tuesday -- the off day -- and Wednesday. He had a pretty good week. We put him in practice on Friday and he was pretty good on all of his assignments and everything he had to do. We didn't ask him to do everything, but I think he's working pretty hard at it. He picked it up pretty quickly. He seems like a smart guy."
tombonneau
Footballguy
I might - *might* - pick him up to play as a RB2 to cover byes if Rice doesn't look good to go, but that is only because my waiver wire is picked bare thin. I think you can count on him for Faulk-like production with a touch more upside of Taylor is out. Based on last week, I see Morris being pretty limited as a blocker and occasional ball carrier, and simply don't see how BB doesn't try to involve Woodhead a little more in the offense as he gets more acclimated.
Certainly from a dynasty POV the guy is extremely limited, but could be a solid bye week spot starter. And who knows, you might luck out with a 50/50/1 day when you actually have to start him.
Certainly from a dynasty POV the guy is extremely limited, but could be a solid bye week spot starter. And who knows, you might luck out with a 50/50/1 day when you actually have to start him.
Clifton
Footballguy
I'm thinking bigger things. He's clearly intelligent....Belichick thinks so. So he's got that going for him. Couple his intelligence with the fact that he had better overall numbers than anyone at the combine and the picture begins to clear up a bit. Get him active
