NE Running Game - 2 dozen threads merged (1 Viewer)

[underdogger]

Of course a deep league stash or one with many roster spots. But with Faulk on IR, Morris is supposed to take over his role. So, who is buying and considering using him as a flex that scores 7-10 pts a week? RB is always a barren position on the wire

 

[Road Warriors]

Of course a deep league stash or one with many roster spots. But with Faulk on IR, Morris is supposed to take over his role. So, who is buying and considering using him as a flex that scores 7-10 pts a week? RB is always a barren position on the wire

I have a hard time seeing how Morris will replace Faulk in the NE offense. He's not elusive enough to pick up the 3rd and 5-7 yards on the quick shotgun draws, and doesn't catch the ball as well as Faulk. I expect to see more spread on 3rd down, utilizing Welker and the TEs ( and possibly Edelman ) on the short, quick hitters to move the chains. I don't expect Morris will become fantasy relevant.

 

[underdogger]

Of course a deep league stash or one with many roster spots. But with Faulk on IR, Morris is supposed to take over his role. So, who is buying and considering using him as a flex that scores 7-10 pts a week? RB is always a barren position on the wire

I have a hard time seeing how Morris will replace Faulk in the NE offense. He's not elusive enough to pick up the 3rd and 5-7 yards on the quick shotgun draws, and doesn't catch the ball as well as Faulk. I expect to see more spread on 3rd down, utilizing Welker and the TEs ( and possibly Edelman ) on the short, quick hitters to move the chains. I don't expect Morris will become fantasy relevant.

Welp, when you roster guys like Slaton and Avant, a guy like Morris is definitely intriguing. I will just play the matchups and prolly see how they use him first. But of course things can change weekly with Bill. I still think Morris will be alright. He has been in the lg long enough and has shown some things. Just a roster stash is all I just did. Im not expecting to find gold or the next Arian Foster here

 

[David Yudkin]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

 

[underdogger]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

um, then create just 1 big ole ne rb thread....unless u can tell us which of the 3 will be the most valuable.....

 

[mervis]

Some people seem to think their speculation or eye for talent is superior to others. Benjarvus is talented. Yes, I watch the same games as you. Your word isn't some how more important because you know a guy who's cousin is a janitor for the organization. Someone has to say it. I'm tired of reading Pats threads and listening to the same guy talk to others as if he's sitting on the bench during the games and in the locker room during meetings.

Not sure if this has been mentioned or not ...... BUT ...... Faulk is out for the season. ALL-A-BOARD

15 plus touches a game, in this economy ....... I'll take it.

 

[David Yudkin]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

um, then create just 1 big ole ne rb thread....unless u can tell us which of the 3 will be the most valuable.....

Pick a NE RB name and do a search with my name, and you could likely find 20 times where I gave an opinion . . .

 

[switz]

As already mentioned, plenty on this out there already.But as a clarification, the Pats are pondering whether they will be putting Faulk on IR (as odd as it may seem). Perhaps they think he might be able to return later in the season or if it's a partial tear and he might be able to try and play.Either way, I doubt he will play any real role this year.

IR now...I know there are threads about Sammy Morris being worthy of a pickup, but this thread seems a little different, not as player specific.I wonder what impact this has on the offense on the whole, as Faulk always seemed to be the guy to get them out of third and long, etc. It looks like the new TE (I totally just forgot his name, Aaron Hernandez I think) is really good, and has great hands, so maybe he'll be the go to guy now in those situations. I worry Taylor may get overworked in the running game, as Sammy Morris doesn't really have much left in his tank either.

 

[omally]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

How many Vick threads do we need? How many Best threads do we need? It's nothing new for the Shark Pool to go all crazy when there are depth chart shakeups, injuries to key players, cuts, arrest, big games by newcomers, etc.

 

[gary mexico]

Old Fred Taylor is so unpopular it seems nobody wants to acknowledge he is actually the best NE rb to have

 

[buster c]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

 

[texasheat]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

:siren:

 

[JMJ]

If Kevin Faulk himself was barely ownable before his injury, and Sammy Morris is about to take his job over but not do the things Faulk does as well, how exactly do you expect him to be fantasy relevant?

 

[David Yudkin]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

It gets a bit tiring having to say the same things over and over in thread after thread. There were at least 4 other NE RB threads on the first page whn this one was started.I realize to the MB posters it really is not that big a deal or time consuming for them to start up another thread, but for people that have provided input, research, or otherwise long winded posts in threads it's a pain to either retype things or scramble to cut and paste what they may have already posted 3 times that same day.

 

[GloryDaze]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

It gets a bit tiring having to say the same things over and over in thread after thread. There were at least 4 other NE RB threads on the first page whn this one was started.I realize to the MB posters it really is not that big a deal or time consuming for them to start up another thread, but for people that have provided input, research, or otherwise long winded posts in threads it's a pain to either retype things or scramble to cut and paste what they may have already posted 3 times that same day.

But this one is specifically about Asmmy Morris!!!!!

 

[GloryDaze]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

The same number of "I can't believe _______ is ranked _th! OMG!" threads

 

[ScottyDog]

Relax......You pay $27.95 and you should get to make a thread if you deem it worthy. Everyone deems the worthiness of a thread differently. Can't you just choose to not look at the thread?

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

 

[qimqam]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

It gets a bit tiring having to say the same things over and over in thread after thread. There were at least 4 other NE RB threads on the first page whn this one was started.I realize to the MB posters it really is not that big a deal or time consuming for them to start up another thread, but for people that have provided input, research, or otherwise long winded posts in threads it's a pain to either retype things or scramble to cut and paste what they may have already posted 3 times that same day.

But this one is specifically about Asmmy Morris!!!!!

Asmmy!?

 

[underdogger]

Welp, what a disaster thread this has turned to. And yes Kevin Faulk was flex worthy in my PPR league last year. So, I dont truly understand your point as everyone plays in different leagues. I prefer the deeper leagues where guys like Buckhalter, Kuhn and Matt Cassel are starers. So, to each his own. Faulk was putting up at worst 6-10 pts. And those 6-10 pts decide the final scores. So, thanks

 

[l0wki]

I think Green-Ellis is the guy to have? He had the majority of the carries last week, and Sammy Morris had no carries and only one reception.

 

[SayWhat?]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

It gets a bit tiring having to say the same things over and over in thread after thread. There were at least 4 other NE RB threads on the first page whn this one was started.I realize to the MB posters it really is not that big a deal or time consuming for them to start up another thread, but for people that have provided input, research, or otherwise long winded posts in threads it's a pain to either retype things or scramble to cut and paste what they may have already posted 3 times that same day.

Then don't?

 

[buster c]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

It gets a bit tiring having to say the same things over and over in thread after thread. There were at least 4 other NE RB threads on the first page whn this one was started.I realize to the MB posters it really is not that big a deal or time consuming for them to start up another thread, but for people that have provided input, research, or otherwise long winded posts in threads it's a pain to either retype things or scramble to cut and paste what they may have already posted 3 times that same day.

Marion Barber poster

 

[David Yudkin]

Brady breaks down Pats running backs

September, 22, 2010 - By Mike Reiss

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Kevin Faulk's season-ending knee injury and the Patriots running back corps was the hot topic of discussion Wednesday, and quarterback Tom Brady pointed to Sammy Morris as a player whose role should now increase.

Morris has been on the field for 16 offensive plays through the season's first two games.

"Sammy is obviously going to get a lot of opportunities with Laurence [Maroney] and Kevin [Faulk] gone," Brady said at his weekly news conference. "We had five backs five days ago and now we have three backs."

Those three backs are Fred Taylor, Morris and BenJarvus Green-Ellis. Newcomer Danny Woodhead is a fourth option who Brady said he had yet to meet prior to Wednesday's practice.

When breaking down the team's running backs, Brady started with Taylor.

“Fred is one of the best running backs of all time," he said. "He played great the first game. The first run he had called back in the [Jets] game, that was disappointing because it was a big run in the game for him, to get him going. Any time a running back has a big run like that early, it can set the tone for the whole day. He’s a great player. He’s worked very hard. He’s a great leader."

While each running back has a distinct style, Brady sees one similarity between them.

"Hopefully those guys can really step in and take control, because they’re good runners. They run hard. They’re downhill, physical guys," he said. "They don’t mind contact and they’re going to get yards where there are yards.”

Minus Faulk, offense could have new look

September, 22, 2010 - By Mike Reiss

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- One point that coach Bill Belichick made on Wednesday got the mind racing a bit. Speaking on the season-ending knee injury to running back Kevin Faulk, he said:

"I don't think you're going to find any one player to be a duplicate of Kevin Faulk. When we lost Tom [brady] in the beginning of the ’08 season, Matt [Cassel] came in and we won 11 games. We weren’t the same team but we found a different way than the way we had won the year before. I don’t think we’re going to find one player to be a carbon copy of Kevin Faulk. I don’t think that exists. I don’t think that’s really realistic. As a team, we just have to find ways to be efficient, be productive, move the ball, and score points, even if he’s not in there. It will be a challenge, but that’s what we need to do.”

It was interesting to hear Belichick use the 2008 season as an example of the team reinventing itself during the season because of a key injury.

Faulk's ability to pick up the blitz gives the Patriots more comfort to put quarterback Tom Brady in the shotgun. So without Faulk, might the Patriots limit their usage of the gun?

This will be an area to watch closely, starting Sunday against the Bills.

Morris preps to fill Faulk's role

September, 22, 2010 - By Mike Reiss & Mike Rodak

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. – When running back Kevin Faulk’s torn right ACL knocked him out of the fourth quarter of Sunday’s loss to the Jets, 11-year veteran Sammy Morris was the replacement when the Patriots went to their two-minute offense late in the fourth quarter.

Morris is again the most likely candidate to step into that role Sunday against the Bills. He knows those are big shoes to fill.

“I’m not Kevin Faulk, per se. In that sense, no one is,” Morris said Wednesday morning in the team’s locker room. “We all have to elevate our own games and do our part to help the team win.”

Morris has been a back-of-all-trades in four seasons with the Patriots, sometimes lining up as a tailback, other times as a fullback, while also playing the pass-protecting role in which Faulk excels on third down in the shotgun.

“I’ve done it, but obviously with Kevin, not as much,” he said. “When coaches were coaching him up, I’m still listening to what’s going on, so just like with everybody, you have to be ready.”

Faulk is 5-foot-8, 202 pounds, while Morris is 6-feet, 220 pounds, which highlights their contrasting styles.

Morris stressed that Faulk is a “different type of back” than the Patriots’ other players at the position, pointing to his open-field quickness, agility, shiftiness and knack for executing screen plays.

The two sat together on the flight home from New York.

“We talked the whole time,” Morris said. “It’s tough, not just as a teammate, but as a friend.”

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Seriously? How many NE RB threads do we need?

can we get a few without you being so snarky?

It gets a bit tiring having to say the same things over and over in thread after thread. There were at least 4 other NE RB threads on the first page whn this one was started.I realize to the MB posters it really is not that big a deal or time consuming for them to start up another thread, but for people that have provided input, research, or otherwise long winded posts in threads it's a pain to either retype things or scramble to cut and paste what they may have already posted 3 times that same day.

Marion Barber poster

Mutha#####es

 

[blake]

Old Fred Taylor is so unpopular it seems nobody wants to acknowledge he is actually the best NE rb to have

it does seem that FBG values taylor the most out of morris and BJGE, for what that is worth.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

Anyone else think the loss of Faulk is going to have a pretty big impact on the Patriot offense in general? I am not sure they have a runningback on the roster that they can count on in the passing game. Is there anyone out there they may be able to pick up?????

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I think they should trade for Lynch. Has anyone started a thread on that yet?

 

[Wally Cleaver]

I guess I should have been more clear...

I dont really see them trading for Lynch, I dont think they would give up what it would take to get him... I was thinking more along the lines of someone who is currently not on a team.. Ladell Betts came to mind before he went to Washington.

 

[rowmacks]

I know you said not already on the roster but you are trying too hard. Woodhead is perfect for the role. Once he wraps his head around the playbook I can see him making an impact.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

I guess I should have been more clear...I dont really see them trading for Lynch, I dont think they would give up what it would take to get him... I was thinking more along the lines of someone who is currently not on a team.. Ladell Betts came to mind before he went to Washington.

FYI Betts is in New Orleans.As for the original topic, the Pats, Belichek in particular, I feel think they can be successful without truly need a COP back, or even a carry the load type runner.Though now with the injury to Faulk, and after trading Maroney...I'm sure they will kick the tires on some of the available RB's floating around in free agency.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

can woodhead block?

I think they might just change up the offense a bit.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

I know you said not already on the roster but you are trying too hard. Woodhead is perfect for the role. Once he wraps his head around the playbook I can see him making an impact.

I hope you are right about this, I agree that he looks like he would be great in that role, but it seems like the Patriots always like to lean on veterans, considering he will be picking up blitzes for Brady I am not sure they are going all in with Woodhead.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

I guess I should have been more clear...I dont really see them trading for Lynch, I dont think they would give up what it would take to get him... I was thinking more along the lines of someone who is currently not on a team.. Ladell Betts came to mind before he went to Washington.

FYI Betts is in New Orleans.As for the original topic, the Pats, Belichek in particular, I feel think they can be successful without truly need a COP back, or even a carry the load type runner.Though now with the injury to Faulk, and after trading Maroney...I'm sure they will kick the tires on some of the available RB's floating around in free agency.

Thanks, I meant New Orleans, must have been having flashbacks of him coming in on third downs for the Skins...

 

[rowmacks]

Honestly I haven't seen all that much of him, just stuff from preseason and what not but I do think he has ability. Here's an article on him written by a homer: Had Talent, No One Cared: Danny Woodhead’s Tough Road to the NFL Some jaw dropping stats, obviously against lesser comp. Those 40 times and his athletic ability really stick out (if true of course). Dude seems pretty smart and is obviously a hardworking SOB, seems like a perfect fit for the patriots. *Wanted to add that he is built like a brick ****house, even though he is only 5'6 or 5'7... seems like a good frame for blocking (think mojo on merriman).

 

[NYRAGE]

can woodhead block?

I think they might just change up the offense a bit.

Can he block? Not even a mosquito. He's a good Rudy story though.

Let's see if you can spot Woodhead on these two kickoff TD returns by Ginn last season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpI1wElYoCs

 

[AngryGorilla]

Morris and Woodhead? Should be okay. Double TE sets, no RBs in the backfield...it's NE, they'll figure it out. None of us will ;p

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

can woodhead block?I think they might just change up the offense a bit.

Can he block? Not even a mosquito. He's a good Rudy story though.

then I don't think he's taking faulk's role.maybe you'll see morris in there more.

 

[Couch Potato]

Look for Sammy and Hernandez to pick up a lot of the slack in the short area receiving.

 

[Clifton]

Just may be. Prototypical Belichick guy. Wouldn't be surprised to see him starting by week 5. His combine numbers were better than everyones. He's a lightning bolt and built like a small tank.

Make room for this guy on your rosters. Could be Dynasty gold.

 

[Otis]

Lol at doohead

 

[Steve Tasker]

I have him as a top 10 dynasty RB going forward. Stashed him in all of my dynasty leagues this week. Even gave him the start in two of em today....I heard that little voice just last night....

 

[Limp Ditka]

That would be silly to talk about right now. Let's lock this one up too.

 

[Clifton]

That would be silly to talk about right now. Let's lock this one up too.

Buddy, it's moves like this that cement dynasty status going forward.

 

[ponchsox]

Woodhead would be rosterable in 30 team leagues

 

[Chimp Magnet]

Just traded CJnoK for Woodhead. Feel good about it.

 

[Joe Summer]

I know someone who knows someone who grew up with Woodhead, and he's been called "Tank" by his family since he was a baby. The kid weighed 15 lbs. fresh out of the oven...

 

[Clifton]

Woodhead would be rosterable in 30 team leagues

I'm not shticking around here, pal. Do your homework before making comments.

Woodhead, the all time leading rusher in NCAA history did not receive a invite to the NFL Scouting Combine so he had to use his pro day to show his abilities. According to a report on NFLDraftWatch.net, he ran the 40-yard dash in a time of 4.33 to 4.38 seconds which would have been the second-fastest among all running backs at the NFL Combine in March 2008. He posted the best pro-agility time of 4.03 seconds, the second-best vertical jump (38½ inches) and the best 60-yard shuttle time (11.2 seconds)

So what were we saying again?

 

[zamboni]

You never know with Belichick, but it looks like BJGE may be emerging from the pack.

Good game, with key run-out-the-clock carries when the game was still close.

 

[Clifton]

You never know with Belichick, but it looks like BJGE may be emerging from the pack. Good game, with key run-out-the-clock carries when the game was still close.

Some of the sharks saw this developing.

 

[Chaka]

You never know with Belichick, but it looks like BJGE may be emerging from the pack. Good game, with key run-out-the-clock carries when the game was still close.

Some of the sharks saw this developing.

Banana slugs with degrees in animal husbandry from Cal State San Luis Obispo saw it developing too.