**NFL in London - Patriots at Jaguars** (-6, 42) 9:30/6:30am Kickoff (1 Viewer)

[doeseatplace]

Lucky break for the Jags

 

[The Frankman]

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you think they might leave Ja'Lynn Polk at the hotel when it's time to leave? JEEZ what a horrible game, that would have made it 1-possesion.

 

[pipedream]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

 

[efactor]

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you think they might leave Ja'Lynn Polk at the hotel when it's time to leave? JEEZ what a horrible game, that would have made it 1-possesion.

Terrible body language too. Just looks like he’s not into the game.

 

[ghostguy123]

Whelp, NE helped keep it a 2 score game.
Seems to make more sense to put the pressure on and make it a 1 score game.
Oh well, both teams probably want a higher pick anyway.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Never know when to start BTJ. Benched this week for Cook in flex. Ugh.

My weekly WR 3/4/Flex and when he shows up it's usually for the better

6/86/TD
5/122/TD
Chicago game last week but not a single WR on the Jags made it over 30-40 yds
5/89/TD today...how could you not start him unless you are mortally stacked at WR and Flex?
Those are his last 4 games

 

[The Frankman]

At some point the Jags are going to run play-action off one these Bigsby runs... and they'll get a huge play.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Demario Douglas is going to see a lot of targets in the 2nd Half

That’d be great

Not so much, after the 1st drive they never threw to him again, I was wondering if he sustained an injury

 

[Desert_Power]

Demario Douglas is going to see a lot of targets in the 2nd Half

That’d be great

Not so much, after the 1st drive they never threw to him again, I was wondering if he sustained an injury

Believe he was benched for at least a bit for an illegal motion penalty.

 

[The Frankman]

SEVENTEEN STRAIGHT RUNS.

 

[The Frankman]

EIGHTEEN STRAIGHT RUNS.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

They haven't been doing that for the last 10 years...
We no longer keep the game going, we just go ahead and go for it since we don't want to wait and then perhaps not execute on the last play of the game

 

[Donnybrook]

Why stop NE can't stop it.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

17 straight runs for Jax

 

[The Frankman]

Why stop NE can't stop it.

You'd think they'd run blitz once... but apparently that's not in Jerod Mayo's vocabulary.

 

[Man In The Box]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

The idea is you need a two point conversion at some point. The earlier you know what you need, the better.

 

[kface]

Jags have to be on the phone shopping Etienne right now...

 

[ghostguy123]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

They haven't been doing that for the last 10 years...
We no longer keep the game going, we just go ahead and go for it since we don't want to wait and then perhaps not execute on the last play of the game

Seems dumb. Seems putting actual pressure on the other team would create better outcomes.
Up 8 is a whole world different than up 9.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Demario Douglas is going to see a lot of targets in the 2nd Half

That’d be great

Not so much, after the 1st drive they never threw to him again, I was wondering if he sustained an injury

Believe he was benched for at least a bit for an illegal motion penalty.

I think so too.

 

[The Frankman]

NINETEEN STRAIGHT RUNS.

 

[oddsbodkins]

Never know when to start BTJ. Benched this week for Cook in flex. Ugh.

My weekly WR 3/4/Flex and when he shows up it's usually for the better

6/86/TD
5/122/TD
Chicago game last week but not a single WR on the Jags made it over 30-40 yds
5/89/TD today...how could you not start him unless you are mortally stacked at WR and Flex?
Those are his last 4 games

I am stacked. Jefferson, Nabers and DK and either Cook or Reek at flex.

 

[ghostguy123]

On a side note, man, I gotta stop using Kirk in my lineup

 

[kface]

On a side note, man, I gotta stop using Kirk in my lineup

He's pretty much a season killer at this point...droppable

 

[The Frankman]

Finally! A pass on 3rd and 7 and the Jags actually blitzed

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Never know when to start BTJ. Benched this week for Cook in flex. Ugh.

My weekly WR 3/4/Flex and when he shows up it's usually for the better

6/86/TD
5/122/TD
Chicago game last week but not a single WR on the Jags made it over 30-40 yds
5/89/TD today...how could you not start him unless you are mortally stacked at WR and Flex?
Those are his last 4 games

I am stacked. Jefferson, Nabers and DK and either Cook or Reek at flex.

Then you need to trade Thomas, he's easily a Top 20 WR and most folks love him

 

[tkrull1]

I can't believe I woke up early to watch Stevenson touch the ball 9 times...

 

[The Frankman]

Kendrick Bourne is a guy who I think will be the real #1 receiver as he works back from his torn ACL. Great route runner and he always seems to catch the big passes...

 

[Donnybrook]

Jags have to be on the phone shopping Etienne right now...

What is a running back worth at the trade deadline? A Painting Manning portrait or a double chunk chocolate cookie.

 

[oddsbodkins]

Never know when to start BTJ. Benched this week for Cook in flex. Ugh.

My weekly WR 3/4/Flex and when he shows up it's usually for the better

6/86/TD
5/122/TD
Chicago game last week but not a single WR on the Jags made it over 30-40 yds
5/89/TD today...how could you not start him unless you are mortally stacked at WR and Flex?
Those are his last 4 games

I am stacked. Jefferson, Nabers and DK and either Cook or Reek at flex.

Then you need to trade Thomas, he's easily a Top 20 WR and most folks love him

Keeper league and he’s mine for 2 more years. I also have Nico in IR! Sold out for this year.

 

[kface]

Jags have to be on the phone shopping Etienne right now...

What is a running back worth at the trade deadline? A Painting Manning portrait or a double chunk chocolate cookie.

He was never going to be worth much after this season might as well get something for him

 

[Schmeabs]

Hasty lol

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

analytics

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Wow very fast game

 

[ghostguy123]

Man, and to think basically the entire difference in this game was a kick return TD

 

[efactor]

I can't believe I woke up early to watch Stevenson touch the ball 9 times...

Yeah. I idiotically made the last minute change and put Stevenson in for Hunt. I’ll never learn. Make your decision and leave it alone.

 

[Donnybrook]

The first thing I notice when I started watching this game in the 2nd half was how disinterested the Pat's offense looked at lining up. It look to me like they already lost.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

In a nutshell, if you wait until the end to go for 2, then you are basically in a black and white situation where if you miss the 2, you lose, as opposed to doing it earlier when you have more opportunities to do things differently to make up for it if you miss it

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I had so much hope for the pats last week...

 

[Snoopy]

Trying for the INT? Knock it down is the moved there.

 

[rockaction]

I think the Jags win this one in the defensive trenches. I think it's almost a laugher. 34-21.

Meh. Not too far off.

 

[Insein]

Double whammy of not paying attention this morning in my league. ETN owner started him and didn't see the notice. The bigsby owner didn't see it either and has him on the bench.

 

[ghostguy123]

Whelp, my Kirk vs Tank matchup went................poorly.
Went from a 25 point favorite to like a 7 point dog

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Now they score?

Weird. Hope I get moar Hunter Henry

 

[pinequick]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

In a nutshell, if you wait until the end to go for 2, then you are basically in a black and white situation where if you miss the 2, you lose, as opposed to doing it earlier when you have more opportunities to do things differently to make up for it if you miss it

I know that this is an argument without a correct answer, but I was struck by this thought during the Pats drive after they stopped JAX (now down 9): "If they had kicked the XP on their last TD drive, the analytics folks would have them with a MUCH higher likelihood of winning this game than they have now." #analytics

 

[The Frankman]

Maye adding up them garbage time points


EDIT: That last drive got Drake Maye over 20 FP in most leagues.

 

[KingPrawn]

On a side note, man, I gotta stop using Kirk in my lineup

He's pretty much a season killer at this point...droppable

Rumors of him being on the trade block might keep him on a few rosters

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Can someone explain the decision to go for 2 there? I thought conventional wisdom was to wait until you absolutely have to have 2 (in this case, once you score another TD and are looking for the tie)

In a nutshell, if you wait until the end to go for 2, then you are basically in a black and white situation where if you miss the 2, you lose, as opposed to doing it earlier when you have more opportunities to do things differently to make up for it if you miss it

I know that this is an argument without a correct answer, but I was struck by this thought during the Pats drive after they stopped JAX (now down 9): "If they had kicked the XP on their last TD drive, the analytics folks would have them with a MUCH higher likelihood of winning this game than they have now." #analytics

I think that the decision to go for 2 increases your overall probability to win on average, but you still have to live with the downside risk of not making it. The numbers are not saying that the decision to go for two early will always improve your probability to win no matter what the outcome is. They are saying that more often than not, they will lead to a better eventual outcome. “Analytics” are never a guarantee, but a tool toward better decision making.

 

[KingPrawn]

Demario Douglas is going to see a lot of targets in the 2nd Half

That’d be great

Not so much, after the 1st drive they never threw to him again, I was wondering if he sustained an injury

Believe he was benched for at least a bit for an illegal motion penalty.

Reports on Twitter say he was dealing with a pre-game illness and taking IVs. He tried playing through it.