NFL MVP End-of-the-season update (with poll added) (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

Also, don't look now but the other Manning is making a move! That's right Payton is now the "other" Manning.

Payton? PAyton? PAyton?

Yeah, it's been so long since we've talked about him I forgot how to spell it.

Warner. Period.

Would your opinion change if the Cardinals end up 9-7? They could easily lose to the Giants, Eagles, Vikings, and Patriots (while beating the Rams and Seahawks).

Warner. Period.

Look at the history of the MVP Award and get back to me then. Unless your name is Barry Sanders, you don't win MVP on a 9-7 team.

That is fine, but none of the top teams really have a standout MVP candidate, like has been the case in years past. Collins isn't Tennessee's best offensive player, and Haynesworth won't have a prayer of winning because of his position.

Eli is having a good season, but not MVP quality, and the Giants run the well no matter who is at RB, so that takes away from Jacobs a little bit.

Warner is the clear-cut MVP right now, if you ask me.

 

[Big_Russel]

With more game like last night, and that type of play calling, I could see M. Barber sneak into this conversation, but I think Warner is the clear cut favorite as of now.

Collins, Portis, and A. Peterson will probably be mentioned too.

Don't sleep on the Barbarian down the stretch.

 

[Ghost Rider]

With more game like last night, and that type of play calling, I could see M. Barber sneak into this conversation, but I think Warner is the clear cut favorite as of now.

Collins, Portis, and A. Peterson will probably be mentioned too.

Don't sleep on the Barbarian down the stretch.

I think had Barber carried Dallas while Romo was out, he could have made a strong case, but he didn't, and since the offense will likely take off again now that Romo is back, I don't see how anyone will see Barber as the most valuable player on that offense, much less of the league.

 

[dparker713]

If he can stay on the field, the answer is Bob Sanders, not that he'd actually win the award though.

 

[Big_Russel]

If he can stay on the field, the answer is Bob Sanders, not that he'd actually win the award though.

This is a discussion for most valuable... not most overrated.

 

[nashua55]

My vote would be Warner and a close second, James Harrison of the Steelers. Harrison is all of the place on def. He might end up with 20 sacks this year. The guy is playing great.

 

[Our Gang]

there could be an argument made for Pennington.

 

[Ghost Rider]

there could be an argument made for Pennington.

Please make it. I need a good laugh.

 

[dparker713]

If he can stay on the field, the answer is Bob Sanders, not that he'd actually win the award though.

This is a discussion for most valuable... not most overrated.

Take a look at the difference in defensive stats for the Colts when Sanders plays and when he doesnt. Its astounding and was proved once again this past week when without Sanders, Steve Slaton and the Texans gashed the Colts D time and again on the ground.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Warner. Period.

Would your opinion change if the Cardinals end up 9-7? They could easily lose to the Giants, Eagles, Vikings, and Patriots (while beating the Rams and Seahawks).

Warner. Period.

Look at the history of the MVP Award and get back to me then. Unless your name is Barry Sanders, you don't win MVP on a 9-7 team.

They will not lose to RAMS SEAHAWKS EAGLES OR PATS.... WARNER WILL BE MVP....I HAVE-0.00% DOUBT.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If he can stay on the field, the answer is Bob Sanders, not that he'd actually win the award though.

This is a discussion for most valuable... not most overrated.

Take a look at the difference in defensive stats for the Colts when Sanders plays and when he doesnt. Its astounding and was proved once again this past week when without Sanders, Steve Slaton and the Texans gashed the Colts D time and again on the ground.

But the Colts still won the game. What do you think Indy's record would be without Peyton Manning?

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

My vote is Brett Favre!

The Jets were 4-14 last year. Tennessee was a playoff team plus Collins just hasn;t had the stats worthy of MVP UNTIL LAST COUPLE WEEKS. Favre has the same two receivers the 4-14 team had and the same two RB's. If they win that tuff East no doubt he deserves it! He deserved it last year too. It's just Brady had a record smashing historic year.

Warner has a strong case it's just the competion in the West vs the East is like the difference of night and day. Favre would get my vote if the vote was today. Still a lot of football left to be played though!

 

[Our Gang]

there could be an argument made for Pennington.

Please make it. I need a good laugh.

6-4 vs 1-15#7 in passer rating. The better ones (warner,rivers,romo,brees,rogers,favre) all have considerably better WR's/TE's to throw to. Miami is not in the playoff hunt without Pennington.

 

[theprince]

there could be an argument made for Pennington.

Please make it. I need a good laugh.

6-4 vs 1-15#7 in passer rating. The better ones (warner,rivers,romo,brees,rogers,favre) all have considerably better WR's/TE's to throw to.

Week by week, the Dolphins are moving up the standings, led by Chad and Porter. If they beat NE again this weekend, and NYJ loses to Tennessee.. then the hype will really get rolling.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Warner. Period.

Would your opinion change if the Cardinals end up 9-7? They could easily lose to the Giants, Eagles, Vikings, and Patriots (while beating the Rams and Seahawks).

Warner. Period.

Look at the history of the MVP Award and get back to me then. Unless your name is Barry Sanders, you don't win MVP on a 9-7 team.

I wasn't aware that the rest of the games have already been determined. The Cards aren't without flaws, but I think that you're not giving them their due either. I think they end up better than 9-7. And no other player on the teams that are better than the Cards has really stood out above everyone else like Warner has.

 

[Ghost Rider]

there could be an argument made for Pennington.

Please make it. I need a good laugh.

6-4 vs 1-15#7 in passer rating. The better ones (warner,rivers,romo,brees,rogers,favre) all have considerably better WR's/TE's to throw to. Miami is not in the playoff hunt without Pennington.

Pennington is definitely an upgrade over what they had last year, but he is still an average NFL QB, at best. His 8-5 TD-INT ratio is nothing to write home about. The defense is the biggest reason why their record is much better this year. They have went from 28th (last year) to 14th (this year). Like I said, yes, Pennington is an upgrade, but your QB going from bad to average doesn't mean that that average QB is a legit league MVP candidate.

 

[Chunky Soup]

How about we throw Brady Quinn's name in the hat? He's undefeated, no interceptions and it's already week 12.

 

[kd1]

How about we throw Brady Quinn's name in the hat? He's undefeated, no interceptions and it's already week 12.

incorrect.

 

[Bri]

Kerry Collins. That team would not be 10-0 with Vince Young at QB.

No, but they would probable be no worse than 7-3. Where would the Cardinals be with Matt Leinart at QB? What Warner has done this year with no running game is remarkable (and their defense is pretty average, too). I'll give Collins props for the way he has played, especially over the last few weeks, but he isn't even the MVP of his own team, or his own offense.

The Titans are most likely the best team in the league right now, but that doesn't mean that Collins is an MVP. They're a great TEAM. Guys like Chris Johnson, Cortland Finnegan, and Albert Haynesworth are tremendous players and contributing a ton towards their wins.On the Cardinals, Boldin and Fitz are great players and contributing a ton towards their wins, but Warner is making all the great throws. His timing and precision with those guys is unreal. And make no mistake, the Cardinals are winning based on their passing game. The defense is pretty decent, but not overwhelming. And the running game has been putrid. No, Warner is what makes that team tick. Take him out and the Cardinals would be lucky to be around .500.

I think Boldin was sorely missed one week but all in all I agree as Breaston filled in very well and emphasized that it's Kurt's show.I don't disagree with your comment about the Titans team. Not only have they had a different player excel each week but many have been player of the week in some fashion-ST, rook, AFC.IIRC Carr, Hope, Bulluck, Haynesworth, Finnegan, and CJ have been. There may be more, or duplicates. I don't think people realize all the awards they already have like those. Best defender, best player, best ST player, best player in conference, best rook, .....even if it's just for one week, when they add up it's very very impressive.MVP is the D- allowing 12-13ppg with a tiny range above and below. The offense has it easy.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Anyone think that Warner's chances took a hit after yesterday?

I do not. It was the same old, same old. Warner and the passing game are great, the running game is practically non-existent, and the defense is average, at best.

 

[zamboni]

Michael Turner may be getting some consideration as well. Ryan playing well has helped Turner, but it goes both ways.

 

[sdsjr3]

Anyone think that Warner's chances took a hit after yesterday?I do not. It was the same old, same old. Warner and the passing game are great, the running game is practically non-existent, and the defense is average, at best.

Me neither. They played the odds on favorite in the NFC right now and frankly, they played them really tough. Warner's lone pick did hurt because they had a chance to really put pressure on the Giants. Either way, Warner was still very good and has been limiting his TO's since about week 3 or so. Farve, OTOH took a big step forward yesterday and will now be mentioned in the same breath as Warner for MVP. And beyond those 2, I think the argument ends at this point. Still 5 weeks to go however and lots can change.ETA: my lack of proofreading my spelling

 

[David Yudkin]

Anyone think that Warner's chances took a hit after yesterday?I do not. It was the same old, same old. Warner and the passing game are great, the running game is practically non-existent, and the defense is average, at best.

An isolated loss won't hurt him . . . but a series of losses will.

 

[sho nuff]

Not as much Warner taking a hit...as a few others stepping up.

Favre, Eli, Turner as someone said starting to creep up.

 

[FavreCo]

Kerry Collins. That team would not be 10-0 with Vince Young at QB.

I have no idea what I was talking about. MVP candidate ->

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I would love a dark horse guy like Leon Washignton to get some recognition......This guy needs to be appreciated for his role and what he does for the Jets ....As a RB: Rushing Yards:51 attempts, 240 yards, 4.7 ypc, 2 TD'sReceiving Yards: 226 yards, 30 rec, 2 TD'sKick Returns:25 attempts, 739 yards, 29.6 yard average (number 1 in the league), with 1 TDPunt Returns:21 punt returns 270 yards, (5th most yards in the league for punt return yards)I have been so impressed with this guy and what he does for the Jets. He has been amazing at putting his team in great field position and not only is he one of the best special team guys in the league he is very important on offense as well. He has ran for some tough 3rd down conversions and is a game changer when in the game.Total yards: The guy has 1475 combined yards and 5 TD'sFor those of you saying Thomas Jones, who would the Jets miss more due to injury. Thomas Jones or Leon?

I know he won't get any votes, but seriously what Leon brings to the table with that Jets team is nothing short of spectacular.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Anyone think that Warner's chances took a hit after yesterday?I do not. It was the same old, same old. Warner and the passing game are great, the running game is practically non-existent, and the defense is average, at best.

Me neither. They played the odds on favorite in the NFC right now and frankly, they played them really tough. Warner's lone pick did hurt because they had a chance to really put pressure on the Giants. Either way, Warner was still very good and has been limiting his TO's since about week 3 or so. Farve, OTOH took a big step forward yesterday and will now be mentioned in the same breath as Warner for MVP. And beyond those 2, I think the argument ends at this point. Still 5 weeks to go however and lots can change.ETA: my lack of proofreading my spelling

It did take a hit. Not so much because of the Cards losing, but because of Favre/Jets winning.

 

[NoCheese]

I would rank them like this....

1) Warner

2) Favre

3) M Turner

4) Clinton Portis

5) Adrian Peterson

6) Eli Manning

7) Kerry Collins

 

[MCguidance]

Warner

Portis/Favre

 

[Perfect Tommy]

If the Jets keep winning, Favre will take it again easily. I predicted he would win it before the season started and I see no reason to change it now. Not only does he keep the Jets in every game, winning most of them, but he has turned them into an explosive offense. His presence has allowed Thomas Jones to be one of the leading rushers in the NFL. His leadership and youthful enthusiasm has even brought the NYJ defense into some prominence. Favre is the only player in the league who can win games singlehandedly by sheer force of will. Warner or Brees might win Offensive player of the year, but if you are looking at MVP it can only be the greatest NFL QB of all time. Jett Favre.

 

[netmau5]

I define MVP as a player who totally changed the quality of the team as a whole. To me, there are a few names in the running atm: Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, Adrian Peterson, Clinton Portis, and Jay Cutler.

Each of those teams would be a near-disaster without those individual contributions imo. I personally think Warner has the most promise this year if they finish strong in AZ as he could get them to 10 wins, break Marino's yardage record, and no one is going to argue Leinart could have done anything close. Brees will be in the cards if he manages to get the Saints to the playoffs but I don't see that happening honestly. AP's name will be in the mix but unless he breaks 1800+ rushing yards, I doubt he will get any real consideration. Without Cutler, the Broncos would be down with Oakloland... but has anyone seen such a young player get MVP? And Portis will obviously keep his name in the bag if he stays healthy; there have been several games where he has made Jim Zorn look like a better coach than he probably is at this point.

I <3 Collins, but I think the Titans would still be a playoff team with VY at the helm so I can't give him consideration. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him get it as a veteran props call.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I define MVP as a player who totally changed the quality of the team as a whole. To me, there are a few names in the running atm: Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, Adrian Peterson, Clinton Portis, and Jay Cutler.

Each of those teams would be a near-disaster without those individual contributions imo. I personally think Warner has the most promise this year if they finish strong in AZ as he could get them to 10 wins, break Marino's yardage record, and no one is going to argue Leinart could have done anything close. Brees will be in the cards if he manages to get the Saints to the playoffs but I don't see that happening honestly. AP's name will be in the mix but unless he breaks 1800+ rushing yards, I doubt he will get any real consideration. Without Cutler, the Broncos would be down with Oakloland... but has anyone seen such a young player get MVP? And Portis will obviously keep his name in the bag if he stays healthy; there have been several games where he has made Jim Zorn look like a better coach than he probably is at this point.

I <3 Collins, but I think the Titans would still be a playoff team with VY at the helm so I can't give him consideration. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him get it as a veteran props call.

Didnt Marino get it in his second season?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

None of the QBs excite me as an MVP at this point, for various reasons.

I think the award will go to whichever RB puts his team on his back over the next month and takes them to the playoffs, and the teams (with star runners) who have to fight to get there are WSH, DAL, MIN. So one of those RBs.

 

[jurb26]

WarnerPortis/Favre

I'm inclined to agree with this. I do think a few other guys are worth mentioning though.Eli Manning - Plays on the best team in the NFL (at the moment anyway) and I'm betting most people don't realize his stat line looks like this: 62% completions, 2,319 yds, 18 Tds, 7 Ints, 91.6 passer rating.Peyton Manning - Peyton has quietly been making a strong move up this season and so have the Colts.Michael Tunner - If Atl can power their way into the playoffs he should start to get a lot more attention.Anquan Boldin - This dude is putting up 8 receptions, 98 yds and 1.2 Tds per game.

 

[Chreesto]

After week 12 I see a 2 way tie for first:

Warner/Favre

After that I see 3 RBs who are still in the running:

Michael Turner/Adrian Peterson/Clinton Portis

A case can be made for each of them. They each bring something special to their team. I think if the QBs listed above falter down the homestretch and one of these RBs has a huge final 5 games and gets their team to the playoffs we could see an RB get the award this year.

A dark horse sleeper would be Matt Ryan. Maybe it would be unheard of to give the award to a rookie but his skills have made an all-pro out of roddy white (or vice versa)

 

[David Yudkin]

If Matt Cassel keeps playing like the past couple weeks (possible but unlikely) and the Pats win out or go 4-1 (possible as they play PIT, @SEA, @OAK, ARI, and @BUF) he could get into the MVP race. A lot can happen over the next

month, as team fate's will have as much to do with the MVP race as personal production.

 

[gigantor]

Payton and the Colts are heating up..can never count him out

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

After week 12 I see a 2 way tie for first:

Warner/Favre

After that I see 3 RBs who are still in the running:

Michael Turner/Adrian Peterson/Clinton Portis

A case can be made for each of them. They each bring something special to their team. I think if the QBs listed above falter down the homestretch and one of these RBs has a huge final 5 games and gets their team to the playoffs we could see an RB get the award this year.

A dark horse sleeper would be Matt Ryan. Maybe it would be unheard of to give the award to a rookie but his skills have made an all-pro out of roddy white (or vice versa)

Why does Roddy White get no credit for last years 83 catches and 1202 yards with 6 TD's last year in a much worst situation? I actually think what White did last season may be more impressive then this year considering Joey Harrington was his QB for most of the season. Roddy White proved last season that he is one of the ten best WR's in the game. Ryan may make him the best WR in the game in due time, but lets not disregard those great numbers from last year.

 

[Tau837]

I define MVP as a player who totally changed the quality of the team as a whole. To me, there are a few names in the running atm: Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, Adrian Peterson, Clinton Portis, and Jay Cutler.

Each of those teams would be a near-disaster without those individual contributions imo. I personally think Warner has the most promise this year if they finish strong in AZ as he could get them to 10 wins, break Marino's yardage record, and no one is going to argue Leinart could have done anything close. Brees will be in the cards if he manages to get the Saints to the playoffs but I don't see that happening honestly. AP's name will be in the mix but unless he breaks 1800+ rushing yards, I doubt he will get any real consideration. Without Cutler, the Broncos would be down with Oakloland... but has anyone seen such a young player get MVP? And Portis will obviously keep his name in the bag if he stays healthy; there have been several games where he has made Jim Zorn look like a better coach than he probably is at this point.

I <3 Collins, but I think the Titans would still be a playoff team with VY at the helm so I can't give him consideration. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him get it as a veteran props call.

Didnt Marino get it in his second season?

Marino won in his second season at age 23.Earl Campbell won in his second season at age 24.

Bob Waterfield won in his first season, though he was 25.

Not sure what others are close to that.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

None of the QBs excite me as an MVP at this point, for various reasons.I think the award will go to whichever RB puts his team on his back over the next month and takes them to the playoffs, and the teams (with star runners) who have to fight to get there are WSH, DAL, MIN. So one of those RBs.

So yeah... if Minn. wins 10 or more games, I think ADP is the easy pick for MVP.

 

[Chreesto]

After week 12 I see a 2 way tie for first:

Warner/Favre

After that I see 3 RBs who are still in the running:

Michael Turner/Adrian Peterson/Clinton Portis

A case can be made for each of them. They each bring something special to their team. I think if the QBs listed above falter down the homestretch and one of these RBs has a huge final 5 games and gets their team to the playoffs we could see an RB get the award this year.

A dark horse sleeper would be Matt Ryan. Maybe it would be unheard of to give the award to a rookie but his skills have made an all-pro out of roddy white (or vice versa)

Why does Roddy White get no credit for last years 83 catches and 1202 yards with 6 TD's last year in a much worst situation? I actually think what White did last season may be more impressive then this year considering Joey Harrington was his QB for most of the season. Roddy White proved last season that he is one of the ten best WR's in the game. Ryan may make him the best WR in the game in due time, but lets not disregard those great numbers from last year.

You're right about this. White did have a great year last year, I think he's even better this year but he was no slouch without Ryan last year. What I should have emphasized is how Ryan (with help) has the falcons in serious playoff contention with 4 games left.

 

[sho nuff]

Adrian Peterson is creeping in...especially with how Favre, Warner, Brees and Portis did last week.

IMO, if any of the QBs falter and Peterson just gets a little over 100 yards and a TD a game down the stretch and the Vikings make the playoffs...it will be his.

 

[jurb26]

Adrian Peterson is creeping in...especially with how Favre, Warner, Brees and Portis did last week.IMO, if any of the QBs falter and Peterson just gets a little over 100 yards and a TD a game down the stretch and the Vikings make the playoffs...it will be his.

I don't think 1700 rushing yards and 13 TDs is be able to compete with the accomplishments of the QBs. Especial when the guys like Warner and Favre are going to make the playoffs as well and do so with more impressive records. All the RBs are on the outside looking in for the MVP right now except for Turner (but he needs Atl to make the playoffs which I don't think is going to happen). It's going to take better efforts than 100/1 down the stretch from them IMO.

 

[Bri]

If Matt Cassel keeps playing like the past couple weeks (possible but unlikely) and the Pats win out or go 4-1 (possible as they play PIT, @SEA, @OAK, ARI, and @BUF) he could get into the MVP race. A lot can happen over the next month, as team fate's will have as much to do with the MVP race as personal production.

It'll be hard to forget Cassel's early struggles. If Moss has four 2-3 TD games, it'd be easier to make a case for him and almost blame his off weeks on Cassel.Along with your latter point, if the Titans or Gmen can wind up 15-1 I figure a player on their team has the strongest chance. Eli? Tuck? Haynesworth? Collins? CJ?It's too bad neither OL can win it as a group I think that would be pretty well received by fans if either did. It's pretty great that the best two OLs(and maybe DLs) have the 11-1 records. It'd fit well and be hard to argue Brees or Warner or Peterson over those units. I guess Eli and Haynesworth are the best player candidates from those teams.In the losing category that should be an award because it seems like there's one every year. WOW are the Seahawks bad without Hasselbeck. I knew he was a fine player but, I misjudged his importance. I'd guess a number of people did as well.

 

[David Yudkin]

Taking another look at this, here's a team breakdown as I see it.

Titans (11-1):

People have been suggesting Haynesworth, but I don't see it even if he has been very disruptive. There had been talk earlier about Collins, but there are so many other QBs that seem more impressive. Johnson might have had a chance if they gave him the ball more and White scored fewer TD. I really don't see a great option here, as it really has been a team effort.

Giants (11-1):

Eli has started to get a little more consideration than in week's past (but again won't have the volume of stats as others). Jacobs would have been positioned for a run, but he's been banged up and faces tough teams the rest of the way (PHI, DAL, CAR, MIN).

Steelers (9-3):

The Steelers biggest difference makers are on defense. Harrison would probably be the leading option, but it's rare that a defender wins the MVP. There really isn't anyone earth shattering on offense here.

Bucs (9-3):

Another team with a decent record and no great MVP candidates. Garcia seems like the default Bucs option, as no one else on offense has anything close to MVP stats and TB has done very well with him recordwise.

Panthers (9-3):

Not sure how they are 9-3, but that's what the standings say. Williams might be an option with a big finish (but not likely) and Peppers is their marquee defensive guy.

Jets (8-4):

A lot will depend what happens the rest of the way out. NY could win the division or miss the playoffs entirely depending upon how they finish. If the Dolphins win out, MIA would win the AFC East and the Jets might not make the playoffs. Pats could also win out, making this situation even cloudier. Favre and TJones would both be candidates.

Ravens (8-4):

Like the Jets, BAL could win their division or miss the playoffs. I don't see a MVP candidate here.

Colts (8-4):

The Colts could end up on a major role and in that case you can't count Manning out.

Cowboys (8-4):

Talk of Romo as MVP has started, especially if DAL ends up on a hot streak. That may be tough with games against PIT, NYG, BAL & PHI. Barber could also be a candidate if the Boys win by running the ball instead of Romo passing it (provided he's healthy which at the moment it seems like he's not). Cowboys are also not looking good in the playoff tiebreakers.

Falcons (8-4):

Ryan and Turner deserve at least honorable mention here. ATL could end up the #2 seed if they win out (NO, TB, MIN, STL) which would give these guys more of a shot at MVP consideration. I'd put Turner ahead of Ryan just based on their numbers.

From the 7-5 teams . . .

Cassel from NE could be an option if the Pats win out and do so by passing.

Cutler has been the catalyst in DEN if they end strong (but he may already have too many turnovers).

Portis is always in the discussion, but WAS could be on the wrong side of the playoff picture if they lose to BAL this week.

ADP would have to have some huge games at this point and the Vikes would need to win at least 3 times for this to even get any traction IMO. They have ARI, ATL & NYG after this week's bye against DET.

Warner still is lurking on the Cards, but they could easily be a mediocre playoff team record wise. I would expect them to go 2-2 and at 9-7 I'm not sure that Warner would get enough votes.

From the 6-6 teams . . .

Brees could have better numbers than Warner. The Saints could conceivably finish 10-6 and in LAST PLACE in their division and obviously miss the playoffs. A lot would have top break their way for them to make the playoffs, and I doubt the voters will take a guy from a non-playoff team.

If Forte goes on a tear and the Bears make the playoffs, he could also be a candidate in a wide open race.

If I were to guess, if ATL can win out they would be the #2 seed and Turner could be the MVP. Granted, the Falcons haven't won more than 2 games in a row this season and would have to win 6 to do it, so the chances of that happening may be remote.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

"Cassel from NE could be an option if the Pats win out and do so by passing."

Then so could be Pennington, Rodgers, who else? If we're talking moonshots...

 

[sho nuff]

Adrian Peterson is creeping in...especially with how Favre, Warner, Brees and Portis did last week.IMO, if any of the QBs falter and Peterson just gets a little over 100 yards and a TD a game down the stretch and the Vikings make the playoffs...it will be his.

I don't think 1700 rushing yards and 13 TDs is be able to compete with the accomplishments of the QBs. Especial when the guys like Warner and Favre are going to make the playoffs as well and do so with more impressive records. All the RBs are on the outside looking in for the MVP right now except for Turner (but he needs Atl to make the playoffs which I don't think is going to happen). It's going to take better efforts than 100/1 down the stretch from them IMO.

True...but one big game against Det and that 1700 turns closer to 2000 rushing yards pretty quick.and yudkin mentioned Romo and I forgot about him.If he keeps playing that way and Dallas ends up on a hot streak, he might blow the other QBs out of the water.

 

[David Yudkin]

"Cassel from NE could be an option if the Pats win out and do so by passing."Then so could be Pennington, Rodgers, who else? If we're talking moonshots...

Cassel had 800+ yards and 6 TD passing over 2 games prior to playing PIT. NE seems to have abandoned the run again, so if Cassel got an insane amount of passing attempts to the tune of say 1500 more yards and 8 more TD that would give him 4200 yards, 21 TD, and an 11-5 record for the Pats.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Well yeah, with no strong leading candidate this late in the year, it's more fun for many of us because we can root for players on our favorite teams to have a chance based on these unlikely - though possible, always possible - outcomes.

 

[David Yudkin]

Well yeah, with no strong leading candidate this late in the year, it's more fun for many of us because we can root for players on our favorite teams to have a chance based on these unlikely - though possible, always possible - outcomes.

There are several teams and players that could make a run late in the season, but IMO the team's success will have as much or greater impact than the player himself. I don't think Cassel will put up those kind of numbers (but the teams NE faces could help his cause). IMO, many of the borderline playoff contenders could make their QBs or RBs MVP candidates with big numbers and a big finish by their teams - especially if they make the playoffs with a decent record.