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NFL viewership off 11% YOY (5 Viewers)

Da Guru said:
We would do the same and at time scream "knocked him out cold!!" when a player was laying there "Or get the cart" Now I don`t want see anyone to get hit like that anymore.

  The NFL and ESPN conditioned us that the joy of the sport was the sudden high impact where bodies were sprawled all over the field. The NFL even had their own videos called "Crunch Course" that showed huge hits and KOs. Players wanted kill shots that made the highlight reel instead of just tackling a guy.

There was a big hit on Sunday in the Green Bay game and they did not even show the replay.
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Parrothead said:
Remember the popular segment on ESPN "Jacked Up" where they celebrated the biggest hits of the week?   
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Interesting....  Haven't really bothered to look at this angle....  Goes with the movie on how carefully the NFL orchestrates everything

 
With all the injuries this year I just don't find this a "fun" game to watch and hardly any team is at its peak.  We are seeing guys on the field that have no business being NFL players.

I've been saying this for years but they need to widen the field 5 yards because the players are too big and too fast in today's game. 

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
The movie tanked bad
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I'm sure it did.  Not the kind of movie you want to pay and watch.  

I was interested as I had a slight concussion last January that resulted in a procedure that Jim McMahon had done and was featured at the end of the 85 Bears ESPN 30 for 30.  I still have some very minor lingering effects that weer suppose to go way in 60 days.

 
Did anyone else see the Cleveland fan with the big, cardboard crying baby face in the stands?

Absolutely hilarious!

:lmao: :lmao:

 
Bup TE Konrad Reuland died at the age of 29 from a brain aneurysm today.  This sucks, My twins went to HS with him.

 
I posted in the injury thread in the SP, but seeing two young promising QBs go down and Lockett's horrific injury just bums me out more these days.  You never want to see anyone get hurt, but injuries are through the roof again this year and it just leads to a poor product.  Oakland and Tennessee were two of the most exciting story lines this year. 

As it stands right now the starting QBs for AFC playoff teams will be...

Brady

Big Ben

Tom Savage (is his first name even Tom?)

Alex Smith

Matt McGloin

Matt Moore

 
Max Power said:
I posted in the injury thread in the SP, but seeing two young promising QBs go down and Lockett's horrific injury just bums me out more these days.  You never want to see anyone get hurt, but injuries are through the roof again this year and it just leads to a poor product.  Oakland and Tennessee were two of the most exciting story lines this year. 

As it stands right now the starting QBs for AFC playoff teams will be...

Brady

Big Ben

Tom Savage (is his first name even Tom?)

Alex Smith

Matt McGloin

Matt Moore
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Yes his name is Tom.

interesting list though when put in this context.

 
Max Power said:
I posted in the injury thread in the SP, but seeing two young promising QBs go down and Lockett's horrific injury just bums me out more these days.  You never want to see anyone get hurt, but injuries are through the roof again this year and it just leads to a poor product.  Oakland and Tennessee were two of the most exciting story lines this year. 

As it stands right now the starting QBs for AFC playoff teams will be...

Brady

Big Ben

Tom Savage (is his first name even Tom?)

Alex Smith

Matt McGloin

Matt Moore
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Pats are good but damn Belicheck's deal with the devil has to end soon.

 
TwinTurbo said:
It ends when Brady retires. 
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That's what I thought, before they won 3 out of 4 without Brady. And any RB's of note. And any WR's worth a damn. And traded away his best two pass rushers. And lost the best TE in the game. And etc/etc/etc.

JFC..... it's like he's hitting UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START at the start of every season. It's unreal.

 
Saw a couple people on Twitter mention yesterday that the league was experimenting with shorter commercial breaks and integrating sponsors into the game action/replays more. I happened to not watch much football this week but curious to see how far they go and how much it helps. 

 
RUSF18 said:
Saw a couple people on Twitter mention yesterday that the league was experimenting with shorter commercial breaks and integrating sponsors into the game action/replays more. I happened to not watch much football this week but curious to see how far they go and how much it helps. 
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They've been doing this for years now, although probably need to move further in this direction as more and more people dvr and skip commercials. i wouldn't be surprised to start seeing nascar / soccer style ads on the uniforms and other forms of in game advertising creeping further into the game. 

 
Favorite time of the year coming up these next 3 weekends when it comes to NFL football (The Super Bowl is corporate crap now to the extreme the last 7-8 years).

Postseason football is always great. The ref's typically let them play more (allow more contact for the defense).

Let's see how she goes this year.

 
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Must be the first time ever that I have not watched NFL playoff games.  I dunno what has changed but I couldn't care less.   weird. 

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
Must be the first time ever that I have not watched NFL playoff games.  I dunno what has changed but I couldn't care less.   weird. 
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This 4:30 game is the first I've watched all weekend. Like 4 of these teams who have played have no business being here. 

 
I honestly can't believe Houston and Miami were even in the playoffs.  These teams kind of killed it for me, and it's preposterous that Houston is on to the next round.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I honestly can't believe Houston and Miami were even in the playoffs.  These teams kind of killed it for me, and it's preposterous that Houston is on to the next round.
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Not many good teams this year in general. Kc and Atlanta got byes. Does anybody think they have a shot to make the super bowl? I don't

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I honestly can't believe Houston and Miami were even in the playoffs.  These teams kind of killed it for me, and it's preposterous that Houston is on to the next round.
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Raiders were on their 3rd string QB. Not many teams, even good teams, can win in that situation. 

 
This will be meaningless to everyone but I've kinda wanted to put it in writing.  As I've posted in here a few times this year, I've watched less NFL this year than I can ever recall.  The most instant complaint that pops into my head as to why is because of the length of games and frequency of commercials.  But in retrospect, I watch an absolute ton of college football and my viewership there hasn't changed (or has in fact become stronger) despite the fact that the games actually take even longer to play.  So I've tried over the past few weeks to delineate the two and figure out why I much prefer college football over the NFL.  Here's what I've come up with:

  • Variation in scheme/strategy - in the NFL, all 32 teams generally run a variation of a small number of offensive and defensive philosophies.  But in college you have teams all over the board - pro-style, triple option, read option, run and shoot, pistol, 3-4, 4-3, 4-4, buck linebackers, 3-3-5, etc.  I feel this adds an extra dimension to games.
  • The games are more meaningful - In college, drop 2 games in September and your season might be over.  In the NFL, drop 2 games in September and it's not uncommon to see a team run off a 10-4 record in the rest of the games and get right into the playoffs.  The concept of a middling wildcard team getting hot and winning a Super Bowl just doesn't happen in college, and I like that.
  • Constant new players - a star player in college football will get 2, maybe 3 years of stardom before either graduating or jumping to the pros.  Every year there's a new hotshot star (Lamar Jackson, for example) who can set the game on fire.  That just doesn't happen in the NFL.  The same teams with the same quarterbacks are good pretty much every year, rinse repeat.
  • The atmosphere of games - Even a big NFL playoff game just can't hold a candle to, say, a Saturday night in Baton Rouge.  The NFL atmosphere is so corporate, so controlled, so....blah.  Fans of college teams just seem to have a stronger attachment to their teams, and with the traditions, that all adds up.
  • Sheer number of readily-accessible games - this may have changed if I had Sunday Ticket, but I don't because I'm not home for a number of Sundays because I'm at the Bills game.  With my basic standard cable package, I can find probably 6-8 college games on at any given time all Saturday afternoon.  Even if 75% are blowouts, there's inevitably something worth watching.  Add in the WatchESPN app and there's another handful at my fingertips as well.  Without Sunday Ticket, I get 1-2 1 PM NFL games and 1-2 4 PM games, one of which is the Bills game and one of which is pretty much always the Giants game.  Meh.
  • Reviews/challenges - I don't love the concept of a replay review to begin with, but college reviews just seem to go so much smoother.  They don't review every scoring play and turnover, and tons of plays inside 2 minutes.  An NFL review seems to put everything on hold for 3-4 minutes....ref goes under the hood, channel may go to commercial, takes forever.  In college he puts on a headset and they've usually got it settled quickly....at least it seems so.
 
Steve Tasker said:
This will be meaningless to everyone but I've kinda wanted to put it in writing.  As I've posted in here a few times this year, I've watched less NFL this year than I can ever recall.  The most instant complaint that pops into my head as to why is because of the length of games and frequency of commercials.  But in retrospect, I watch an absolute ton of college football and my viewership there hasn't changed (or has in fact become stronger) despite the fact that the games actually take even longer to play.  So I've tried over the past few weeks to delineate the two and figure out why I much prefer college football over the NFL.  Here's what I've come up with:

  • Variation in scheme/strategy - in the NFL, all 32 teams generally run a variation of a small number of offensive and defensive philosophies.  But in college you have teams all over the board - pro-style, triple option, read option, run and shoot, pistol, 3-4, 4-3, 4-4, buck linebackers, 3-3-5, etc.  I feel this adds an extra dimension to games.
  • The games are more meaningful - In college, drop 2 games in September and your season might be over.  In the NFL, drop 2 games in September and it's not uncommon to see a team run off a 10-4 record in the rest of the games and get right into the playoffs.  The concept of a middling wildcard team getting hot and winning a Super Bowl just doesn't happen in college, and I like that.
  • Constant new players - a star player in college football will get 2, maybe 3 years of stardom before either graduating or jumping to the pros.  Every year there's a new hotshot star (Lamar Jackson, for example) who can set the game on fire.  That just doesn't happen in the NFL.  The same teams with the same quarterbacks are good pretty much every year, rinse repeat.
  • The atmosphere of games - Even a big NFL playoff game just can't hold a candle to, say, a Saturday night in Baton Rouge.  The NFL atmosphere is so corporate, so controlled, so....blah.  Fans of college teams just seem to have a stronger attachment to their teams, and with the traditions, that all adds up.
  • Sheer number of readily-accessible games - this may have changed if I had Sunday Ticket, but I don't because I'm not home for a number of Sundays because I'm at the Bills game.  With my basic standard cable package, I can find probably 6-8 college games on at any given time all Saturday afternoon.  Even if 75% are blowouts, there's inevitably something worth watching.  Add in the WatchESPN app and there's another handful at my fingertips as well.  Without Sunday Ticket, I get 1-2 1 PM NFL games and 1-2 4 PM games, one of which is the Bills game and one of which is pretty much always the Giants game.  Meh.
  • Reviews/challenges - I don't love the concept of a replay review to begin with, but college reviews just seem to go so much smoother.  They don't review every scoring play and turnover, and tons of plays inside 2 minutes.  An NFL review seems to put everything on hold for 3-4 minutes....ref goes under the hood, channel may go to commercial, takes forever.  In college he puts on a headset and they've usually got it settled quickly....at least it seems so.
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That's very well thought out and I agree with many of them. Still, if they don't have a true tournament at the end of the season the entire season is really an exhibition that idiotic sports writers have too much influence in deciding the "champion". And by tournament I mean a minimum of 16 teams but really they could have a 32 team tournament. A 5 week tournament starting in mid-December and ending in mid-January would NOT throw a huge wrench into the academic schedule at most universities.... even if you pretend that the reason a national championship level college football player is only there for the education in the first place. The only reason they have the scholarship in the first place is because of football.

If they ever went to 32 team tournament and took "voting" out of the equation I would likely never watch another NFL game. And college football could make a ton more money as well. Think about it. The best college football teams in the nation playing ~30 primetime games in a one game elimination. It would be the biggest sporting event in the country.

 
One thing that is worse this year, or just more apparent to me, is the difference between the top tier teams and the next tier.

Patriots, KC, Pitt are literally miles ahead of oak, hou, Miami.

 
need2know said:
One thing that is worse this year, or just more apparent to me, is the difference between the top tier teams and the next tier.

Patriots, KC, Pitt are literally miles ahead of oak, hou, Miami.
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It's been that way in the AFC for awhile.  How often is it not the Pats or Steelers in the AFCCG?

 
need2know said:
You are forgetting Denver and the colts.  Both of them out this year.  Makes it even worse.
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But you can say the same thing about college football. The best teams are close to the top (Ohio State, Alabama, etc etc.)

I still enjoy NFL over college football.

 
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