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Northern Exposure is a wonderful family man, outstanding person and a damn fine American ( even though he's Canadian) and I respect him (2 Viewers)

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Kudos to EG, he is a fine man. But alas, I think he will come to the realization that we all eventually come to. Good luck though!

 
Wow, sweet!

Def going to read through this thing today :thumbup:

When you threaten violence against another poster, you've already lost. Limp Ditka got me to that point, although I had received notice that day that my top client over the last 4 years was canceling, so I was wildly tilting and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Actually was therapeutic doing some pointless yelling and threatening on the internet as it saved me from doing anything stupid IRL. I also just walked away from the forum for a few days almost immediately afterwards knowing I had been defeated in that round after making an idiot of myself.

Looks like you unsurprisingly continued to double down. 

 
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I also would never meet Rok IRL or even cornhole in a city he is located if the info was public - would not be surprised to see him go on a rampage as he is the glaring definition of mental health issues in this country, while refusing to admit anything is wrong or seek much needed help. 

 
fantasycurse42 said:
I also would never meet Rok IRL or even cornhole in a city he is located if the info was public - would not be surprised to see him go on a rampage as he is the glaring definition of mental health issues in this country, while refusing to admit anything is wrong or seek much needed help. 
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:goodposting:  

 
jamny said:
Kudos to EG, he is a fine man. But alas, I think he will come to the realization that we all eventually come to. Good luck though!
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I feel like RNR is a good soul.  An intelligent and talented person who just needs to find his way.  I also feel like this community we have here is PACKED with smart, sympathetic, incredibly kind people.  I have probably 30 interests that are far more important to me than fantasy football, but this is the only message board I have ever posted on with any regularity.  This is a special place in the undeniable #### hole that is the Internet.

I believe that RNR is just looking for people to give a #### about him.  He's probably been largely marginalized in his life.  I'm not a psychologist, these are just my armchair observations.  I feel like he really needs a place to "hang out" where he isn't judged but is met with compassion and friendship.  He's correctly identified FBG as that kind of place, but is going about things all wrong.  I mean, how on Earth do you end up feuding with people like Northern Exposure or Ditkaless Wonders?  Two of the nicest, most interesting people you can iMeet.  RNR has obviously been on the wrong end of bullying in his life, as many of us probably have, and he's tired of rolling over.  When he feels like he's being attacked, he throws his fists up and feels like backing off of that stance is just another capitulation.  Kind of like the kid in "Dazed and Confused," he refuses to let this be another incident that leads to him being an "ineffectual nothing" his entire life.

I want to try to help show him that he doesn't have to fight here.  He has much to offer this board - he's funny, he's a great artist, and I believe deep down a really nice guy.  He just needs to stop trying to punch his way out of every situation, although I understand the instinct.  The rest of us have to try to walk a path of empathy and friendship rather than just dismissing him as a "nut."  I believe that if we collectively take the high road and approach any conflagrations as learning experiences rather than an opportunity to hammer the guy, he can find a place here.  The board will be better for it, and I think we can really help a guy who's clearly floundering at the moment find some greater purpose and some success in life.  This board has proven over and over again how much good it can do when its denizens band together in pursuit of an altruistic goal.  Sometimes that's a lot easier than it is other times, and this one probably won't be easy, nor without its rough patches.  I am volunteering to be the liaison here.  If you have a problem with RNR, instead of lashing out at him, feel free to @ me or PM me and I'll see if I can't sandpaper the edges.

It's worth a try, wouldn't you say?

 
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RokNRole said:
No. I had a private consultation with @Evilgrin 72 . He is going to mentor me as I strive to turn over a new leaf.
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You'd better be serious about this.  I'm sticking my neck out for you here.  If someone comes at you, do not respond in kind.  Let me know and I will strive to mend fences and advocate on your behalf.  If I see you blatantly attention-whoring in an abrasive fashion, I'm going to call you out on it and tell you to shut it down.  You don't have to listen, but if you don't, I'll end this experiment as quickly and capriciously as it began.  If you do listen and follow my lead, you're probably going to have a lifelong "home" and resource here and you'll be that much the better for it.  You just have to trust me.

 
McGarnicle said:
RNR: I love you, man. Welcome home.
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That's what I'm talking about.  Even if you're being facetious, it doesn't come through in print unless you choose to read it that way.  I would urge RNR not to do so.

RNR - McGarnicle is one of the funniest MFs I've ever come across online.  Seriously - the guy cracks me up on a regular basis.  He's sometimes sarcastic, do not take those things personally.

 
EG, Koya, and a bunch of others are good dudes who are overwhelmingly friendly. I've watched multiple people try to stick up for this guy and it always ends the same, as it will here. The guy is unhinged and is always one quote away from a meltdown - he has shown the same ####ty behavior over the course of about a dozen user names and at this juncture, I put the odds of that changing around 10,000 - 1. 

With that said, I'll respect EG's wishes as he is a top tier storyteller who I respect.

I enjoy threads like this one and won't contribute to any of the meltdowns, instead will sit back and :popcorn:

 
fantasycurse42 said:
EG, Koya, and a bunch of others are good dudes who are overwhelmingly friendly. I've watched multiple people try to stick up for this guy and it always ends the same, as it will here. The guy is unhinged and is always one quote away from a meltdown - he has shown the same ####ty behavior over the course of about a dozen user names and at this juncture, I put the odds of that changing around 10,000 - 1. 

With that said, I'll respect EG's wishes as he is a top tier storyteller who I respect.

I enjoy threads like this one and won't contribute to any of the meltdowns, instead will sit back and :popcorn:
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Thanks man, I really appreciate it.

Also, I'm going into this with eyes wide open.  I understand that this is likely to crumble in about as much time as it took me to type out that last post, but I'm giving RNR the benefit of the doubt that he's on the level and really wants to be a part of this board and not an irritant.  If he makes me look like a chump, so be it, I'll move on without a second thought.  I'm hoping that's not the case.

 
McGarnicle said:
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Your humor can have an edge to it sometimes, and that's part of what makes you so frigging funny.  I'm a Sam Kinison fan, not a Jim Gaffigan fan.  I simply don't want RNR to erroneously perceive something as a slight that isn't intended that way.

 
RokNRole said:
Can I attention , occasionally, in a non abrasive fashion?
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I'm an attention whore too, it is known.  You can do it, but you have to do it in a fashion that entertains rather than annoys.  See the "Story Time with EG" thread for examples.

Make people laugh and/or smile and they'll gravitate to you.  That's the key to it.  Remember how well the dong drawings were being received?  More of that kind of thing (or EXACTLY that).  Once you've ingratiated yourself to people, they'll give you a lot more leeway on other topics.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I'm an attention whore too, it is known.  You can do it, but you have to do it in a fashion that entertains rather than annoys.  See the "Story Time with EG" thread for examples.

Make people laugh and/or smile and they'll gravitate to you.  That's the key to it.  Remember how well the dong drawings were being received?  More of that kind of thing (or EXACTLY that).  Once you've ingratiated yourself to people, they'll give you a lot more leeway on other topics.
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Deal.

What do I do when I have important life questions that are difficult for me but others take for granted and get upset about ( suits, taxes, pizza toppings etc)?

Should I condense those questions in to one thread? Sometimes several questions pop up in my life in a short period of time and people get upset.

 
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RokNRole said:
Deal.

What do I do when I have important life questions that are difficult for me but others take for granted and get upset about ( suits, taxes, pizza toppings etc)?

Should I condense those questions in to one thread? Sometimes several questions pop up in my life in a short period of time and people get upset.
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Start whatever thread you want.  If a person or persons get on your case in the thread, you simply ignore them.  Engage those who are having a rational discourse with you and either put the others on ignore or disregard any inflammatory posts.  Do not respond to them, and I don't mean don't fight back, just don't respond at all.  Let them think you have them on ignore, even if you don't.  Capisce?

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Start whatever thread you want.  If a person or persons get on your case in the thread, you simply ignore them.  Engage those who are having a rational discourse with you and either put the others on ignore or disregard any inflammatory posts.  Do not respond to them, and I don't mean don't fight back, just don't respond at all.  Let them think you have them on ignore, even if you don't.  Capisce?
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Ok

 
I've always kind of enjoyed RnR and never understood the hate. Count me as one that hopes Evilgrin can turn things around here ?

 
I don't want to ruin the Kumbaya/group hug moment going on in here, but I would like to make a suggestion.

Instead of changing the thread title and pruning the thread of his more "out there" posts, maybe Rok could be accountable for his actions. What he did in this thread was a #### move and he continued to up the ante. So, he should admit what he did. 

A post like "I took things too far. I stepped over the line. Sorry about that." would be a lot better than blowing smoke up my ### and pretending that nothing happened. I am raising two young sons and I teach them they are accountable for the things they do and say. If they cross a line, they own it and apologize to the people affected. It is what grownups do, so maybe Rok could give it a shot? 

Or not. It doesn't matter to me either way. If he stays out of my way in the FFA, I will stay out of his. 

 
northern exposure said:
I don't want to ruin the Kumbaya/group hug moment going on in here, but I would like to make a suggestion.

Instead of changing the thread title and pruning the thread of his more "out there" posts, maybe Rok could be accountable for his actions. What he did in this thread was a #### move and he continued to up the ante. So, he should admit what he did. 

A post like "I took things too far. I stepped over the line. Sorry about that." would be a lot better than blowing smoke up my ### and pretending that nothing happened. I am raising two young sons and I teach them they are accountable for the things they do and say. If they cross a line, they own it and apologize to the people affected. It is what grownups do, so maybe Rok could give it a shot? 

Or not. It doesn't matter to me either way. If he stays out of my way in the FFA, I will stay out of his. 
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He's right, Rok.  A sincere apology and an agreement to let bygones be bygones would not be out of order here.  I urge you to consider this request.  Contrition <> weakness.

 
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