*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (3 Viewers)

[EBF]

I actually traded up to take Hill ahead of Williams in our rookie draft, but I like what Williams has shown in the preseason. Very nice burst of speed and he's a load to bring down. He's not a juker, but can cut a little bit. He looks like a guy who's going to do some good things in the NFL. A lot of the concerns I had about him before the draft still linger. He's going to get banged up and he's never going to be a great pass catcher, but his NFL career is only four games old and he has already ripped of some pretty good runs, most of which can be seen here:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-giants/0ap3000000381027/NFL-NOW-Rookie-Watch-Andre-Williams

I don't hate Hill, but he has no special athletic qualities and has looked pretty ordinary in the preseason so far. He also has a more obstructed path to becoming a universally coveted FF asset, as Bernard isn't going anywhere. I still thought it was a close call. Ultimately, I just liked what I was seeing from Williams more. When you make a pick that you regret, it's better to admit your mistake early than to hold onto a guy while opportunities to make moves are dissolving. Likewise, if you see a guy flashing good talent and you think he's going to be pretty good then you should act on that as soon as possible because if you're right then his price will only rise the longer you wait.

 

[Concept Coop]

I actually traded up to take Hill ahead of Williams in our rookie draft, but I like what Williams has shown in the preseason. Very nice burst of speed and he's a load to bring down.

I don't hate Hill, but he has no special athletic qualities and has looked pretty ordinary in the preseason so far. He also has a more obstructed path to becoming a universally coveted FF asset, as Bernard isn't going anywhere.

These things were true before the draft, however--Williams was a combine-warrior athlete and Hill wasn't; Hill had Gio and Williams had Jennings (Wilson, potentially, to be fair).

As for their pre-season play, Hill has better numbers than Williams and spent more time against the ones. His target/carry ratio is obvioiusly higher as well. He is also outplaying Gio, while Williams is being outplayed by Jennings.

I'm not saying there aren't valid arguments for both guys, but I have a hard time buying pre-season play as one of them (for AW), even assuming we are ready to invest this much in 25 pre-season touches.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Calvin Johnson

Team B trades:

Percy Harvin

DeMarco Murray

2015 1st (looks like a top 3 pick, things can change though)

 

[maxhyde]

12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Calvin Johnson

Team B trades:

Percy Harvin

DeMarco Murray

2015 1st (looks like a top 3 pick, things can change though)

Looks like a great haul for Calvin. I would take the Harvin/Murray/early 1st side in a 12 teamer

 

[Concept Coop]

12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Calvin Johnson

Team B trades:

Percy Harvin

DeMarco Murray

2015 1st (looks like a top 3 pick, things can change though)

Calvin. I'd need that pick to be in stone as top 3 before considering, in this format.

 

[EBF]

As for their pre-season play, Hill has better numbers than Williams and spent more time against the ones. His target/carry ratio is obvioiusly higher as well. He is also outplaying Gio, while Williams is being outplayed by Jennings.
I'm not saying there aren't valid arguments for both guys, but I have a hard time buying pre-season play as one of them, even assuming we are ready to invest this much in 25 pre-season touches.

Hill has 21 carries for 100 yards (4.8 YPC). Williams has 33 carries for 151 yards (4.6 YPC). Pretty much a wash. What's more important for me than the stats alone is how the players look. I've seen two of Hill's games and, while he hasn't looked terrible, he doesn't appear to possess any particularly outstanding traits. He has minimal burst and doesn't even look that powerful. He has nimble feet and can get what's blocked, but nothing about him screams difference-maker to me. On the other hand, Williams is a more impressive overall athlete and his initial burst of speed stands out.

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole. That's why I try to watch these guys early to see how they look. It's an opportunity to draw some conclusions while the concrete is still drying for most people. I think you can often tell right away if something isn't right (i.e. Sankey) and also if guys have the talent to make it in the league (i.e. Hyde, Mason, Williams). Once you think you have some actionable knowledge then you can trade accordingly. If you sit around and wait, there's less uncertainty, but a lot of the opportunities that you once had will have dried up.

 

[Concept Coop]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Certainly. I think we disagree on the two players, but that's not important. If you think AW is the better player, and this was his price, that's all that matters.

 

[Adam Harstad]

12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Calvin Johnson

Team B trades:

Percy Harvin

DeMarco Murray

2015 1st (looks like a top 3 pick, things can change though)

Harvin/Murray/1st pretty comfortably.

 

[Adam Harstad]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Alternately, you can arrive at inaccurate conclusions a little slower than the crowd as a whole.

 

[Milkman]

12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Calvin Johnson

Team B trades:

Percy Harvin

DeMarco Murray

2015 1st (looks like a top 3 pick, things can change though)

I like the Calvin side. If Harvin was more dependable then I would like the other side but he's banged up all the time.

 

[Evil G]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

 

[Hankmoody]

Team A gets

Devonta Freeman

Eric Ebron

Khalil Mack

2015 3rd from Team A (getting own pick back)

Team B gets

Kendall Wright

2015 1st from Team A

2015 2nd from Team A

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Calvin Johnson

Team B trades:

Percy Harvin

DeMarco Murray

2015 1st (looks like a top 3 pick, things can change though)

Calvin for me

 

[One More Rep]

Team A gets

Devonta Freeman

Eric Ebron

Khalil Mack

2015 3rd from Team A (getting own pick back)

Team B gets

Kendall Wright

2015 1st from Team A

2015 2nd from Team A

Wright and the picks

 

[squistion]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Oh, you mean like saying before he had played a down in the NFL that Trent Richardson was a MORTAL LOCK to succeed?

 

[az_prof]

Waiting on Commish approval: Dynasty, 1 pt PPR; start 3-4 WRs

I gave up Shonne Greene

I get Allen Hurns

 

[One More Rep]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

Marshall

 

[squistion]

Waiting on Commish approval: Dynasty, 1 pt PPR; start 3-4 WRs

I gave up Shonne Greene

I get Allen Hurns

That may turn out to be a steal - problem is at this point no one really knows what Hurns value is. I have pulled out all the stops to acquire him and now own him in 5 leagues but I don't know if I have found gold or fool's gold.

 

[az_prof]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

Marshall

Marshall = Winning....

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Oh, you mean like saying before he had played a down in the NFL that Trent Richardson was a MORTAL LOCK to succeed?

Do we have to do this here? A large majority of dynasty owners believed this.

 

[squistion]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Oh, you mean like saying before he had played a down in the NFL that Trent Richardson was a MORTAL LOCK to succeed?

Do we have to do this here? A large majority of dynasty owners believed this.

I don't recall many others saying that on this forum, that Richardson was a no lose, can't miss proposition. Many said he was the best player they had seen since ADP (or even better) but few, if any, took it a step further to say he was a MORTAL LOCK and a guaranteed success barring injury.

Some people think they can predict the future. But usually they cant.

 

[Evil G]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Oh, you mean like saying before he had played a down in the NFL that Trent Richardson was a MORTAL LOCK to succeed?

Do we have to do this here? A large majority of dynasty owners believed this..

Some people think they can predict the future. But usually they cant.

I believe this thread is about completed trades in a Dynasty setting.

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium

Team D gives: Andre Johnson

Team B gives: Vereen, Amendola, Eifert

Not involved. Strange one. I thought this was a nice little haul for AJ, but another Owner was texting me to say it wasn't nearly enough.

 

[cdubz]

I believe this thread is about completed trades in a Dynasty setting.


12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium

Team D gives: Andre Johnson

Team B gives: Vereen, Amendola, Eifert

Not involved. Strange one. I thought this was a nice little haul for AJ, but another Owner was texting me to say it wasn't nearly enough.

I would take the Vereen/Eifert side pretty easily in most instances. What is the premium, 1.25 or 1.5?

 

[Redmen62]

Got to value the proven talent of KW over all the rookies this year except maybe the top three. There's just to much risk of these youngsters busting.

And there's risk of Wright not breaking 80/900 and being basically what Cecil Shorts is. Valuewise, it's much safer to invest in someone like Adams whose upside isn't questioned. Most of Wright's points came with QBs no longer in Tenn. He's the perfect guy for Fitzpatrick, not Locker. There's a ton of WRs I'd happily downgrade Wright to. Wright is far from a safe investment, and if you're blindly looking at ADP he's way overvalued.

Agreed. I don't necessarily dislike Kendall Wright but there's a lot of potential for him to go the way of Eddie Royal - bursting on the scene as a volume WR in ppr leagues but lacking real substances behind those receptions.

I would have agreed with that before I watched KW highlights.

I actually like Wright - but for some reason he's maintained a real low ypr for his two years in the league and has not been a scoring threat. Odd since he was a good deep ball WR at Baylor. I'm not saying he can't develop into more than he's been, but the threat that he doesn't is real, which was really the main take away from the post I replied to.

Yeah there is an article on that on the net somewhere. It basically said that his slow 40 at the combine had the old coaching staff thinking he couldn't be a deep threat but that on a very limited sample he's been quite successful doing it in the NFL. Basically it implied they weren't using him correctly and the new staff will have him running more deep routes. I'll just add I'm not sure what's going to happen but he is not slow. That's completely evident when you watch his tape. He's as electric/explosive as they come.

I'd like to see that article. The idea that coaches would decide how to use a player based on a stopwatch instead of what they saw with their eyes in practice everyday seems ridiculous to me.

 

[EBF]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Oh, you mean like saying before he had played a down in the NFL that Trent Richardson was a MORTAL LOCK to succeed?

Do we have to do this here? A large majority of dynasty owners believed this.

I don't recall many others saying that on this forum, that Richardson was a no lose, can't miss proposition. Many said he was the best player they had seen since ADP (or even better) but few, if any, took it a step further to say he was a MORTAL LOCK and a guaranteed success barring injury.

Some people think they can predict the future. But usually they cant.

I did alright with Jake Locker and Darren McFadden, didn't I?

Anticipation is a valuable practice in dynasty leagues, but assessing players in the preseason is less about predicting the future than it is about paying attention to the present. The preseason provides the first opportunity to see rookies in an NFL environment. There is quite a bit of actionable information to be gained from that. If you don't trust yourself to assess what you're watching and evaluate players on your own then you can always find some people whose opinions you do trust and act according to what they say. Either way, quite a few eventual breakout stars like Victor Cruz, Alfred Morris, and Marques Colston began as camp sensations. If you pay close attention, you can often get a jump on rostering those guys and/or get a sense for who looks legit and who doesn't. That applies to the preseason and the regular season as well. It applies to rookies, sophomores, and even veterans. Guys like Ingram are out there flashing talent that defies their consensus market value. Who's going to capitalize on that? Most of the time, it's going to be the people paying attention and not the guys who wait for every fluid situation to resolve itself decisively before they feel comfortable revising a player's valuation.

 

[Hankmoody]

Oh goody more of this in this thread.

 

[squistion]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Oh, you mean like saying before he had played a down in the NFL that Trent Richardson was a MORTAL LOCK to succeed?

Do we have to do this here? A large majority of dynasty owners believed this.

I don't recall many others saying that on this forum, that Richardson was a no lose, can't miss proposition. Many said he was the best player they had seen since ADP (or even better) but few, if any, took it a step further to say he was a MORTAL LOCK and a guaranteed success barring injury.

Some people think they can predict the future. But usually they cant.

I did alright with Jake Locker and Darren McFadden, didn't I?

Anticipation is a valuable practice in dynasty leagues, but assessing players in the preseason is less about predicting the future than it is about paying attention to the present. The preseason provides the first opportunity to see rookies in an NFL environment. There is quite a bit of actionable information to be gained from that. If you don't trust yourself to assess what you're watching and evaluate players on your own then you can always find some people whose opinions you do trust and act according to what they say. Either way, quite a few eventual breakout stars like Victor Cruz, Alfred Morris, and Marques Colston began as camp sensations. If you pay close attention, you can often get a jump on rostering those guys and/or get a sense for who looks legit and who doesn't. That applies to the preseason and the regular season as well. It applies to rookies, sophomores, and even veterans. Guys like Ingram are out there flashing talent that defies their consensus market value. Who's going to capitalize on that? Most of the time, it's going to be the people paying attention and not the guys who wait for every fluid situation to resolve itself decisively before they feel comfortable revising a player's valuation.

The jury is still out on Locker because of injuries, but we will probably know either way for certain this season if he is "Joke Locker" as you so cleverly nicknamed him.

DMC you predicted would be a complete bust in the league, but you wrong on that. In 2010 he was the 2nd best RB in points scored per game in PPR leagues (behind only Arian Foster) playing 13 games IIRC and many DMC owners rode him to their league championship that year like I did in the league we are both in.

 

[az_prof]

Waiting on Commish approval: Dynasty, 1 pt PPR; start 3-4 WRs

I gave up Shonne Greene

I get Allen Hurns

That may turn out to be a steal - problem is at this point no one really knows what Hurns value is. I have pulled out all the stops to acquire him and now own him in 5 leagues but I don't know if I have found gold or fools gold.

True dat! But I have Ball, Gerhart, Tate/West, and Deangelo/Stewart. It's a PPR league too so I just didn't think I would be starting Greene often and he is 29 and has never been a great PPR Rb. So, I give him up for a lottery ticket that could be the next Anquon Boldin or more likely isn't. But, I just really like what I have seen and everything I hear about him. I figure with your last few roster pieces you want lottery tickets and not plodders who will give you 10 points for half the season and then disappear.

 

[squistion]

Waiting on Commish approval: Dynasty, 1 pt PPR; start 3-4 WRs

I gave up Shonne Greene

I get Allen Hurns

That may turn out to be a steal - problem is at this point no one really knows what Hurns value is. I have pulled out all the stops to acquire him and now own him in 5 leagues but I don't know if I have found gold or fools gold.

True dat! But I have Ball, Gerhart, Tate/West, and Deangelo/Stewart. It's a PPR league too so I just didn't think I would be starting Greene often and he is 29 and has never been a great PPR Rb. So, I give him up for a lottery ticket that could be the next Anquon Boldin or more likely isn't. But, I just really like what I have seen and everything I hear about him. I figure with your last few roster pieces you want lottery tickets and not plodders who will give you 10 points for half the season and then disappear.

FYI. An article on Hurns from SB Nation:

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/8/25/6065227/allen-hurns-jaguars-roster-fantasy-football-2014

 

[tarheel1unc]

Gave: R Cobb D Martin

Got D Bryant

 

[r0llin_game]

Gave: R Cobb D Martin

Got D Bryant

I almost did a deal similar to this in a league. Would have been Hopkins/Martin for my Dez. Decided to hold though.

Also, nobody should be starting Shonn Greene in a dynasty league imo lol. Whatever you can get for him alone is a win.

 

[Donsmith753]

EBF and Squiston need to rent a lodge, light a fire and make peace.

It wasn't entertaining the first time, it isn't now.

 

[r0llin_game]

12 Team PPR QRRWWTKF

Team A gives: DeAndre Hopkins

Team B gives: Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders

Cores

A:

Brady/Foles

Ball, Mathews, Pierce, Rice, NE backfield except Vereen

Stevie, Maclin, ARob, Sanders, Terrance Williams, Sammy Watkins

Reed/ASJ

B:

Stafford/Tannehill

Charles, SJax, Sankey

Davante, Cruz, Hopkins, Alshon, Hunter, Wayne

Jimmy

 

[EBF]

EBF and Squiston need to rent a lodge, light a fire and make peace. It wasn't entertaining the first time, it isn't now.

The first time? Might want to check his post history in The Shark Pool. He has created some sort of bizarre imaginary rivalry with me in his head and spends an unhealthy amount of his posting energy on petty little unprovoked attacks directed towards me.

I'm usually pretty good at staying on-topic, but it can be difficult when you get weirdos interjecting their own personal beef at every opportunity.

 

[FUBAR]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

Marshall

Marshall = Winning....

In a vacuum, ok. But if you're rebuilding that's a decent haul

 

[Adam Harstad]

I believe this thread is about completed trades in a Dynasty setting.

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium

Team D gives: Andre Johnson

Team B gives: Vereen, Amendola, Eifert

Not involved. Strange one. I thought this was a nice little haul for AJ, but another Owner was texting me to say it wasn't nearly enough.

Didn't even notice it was TE-premium at first and I still preferred the Vereen/Amendola/Eifert side. With the bonus for Eifert, that's a huge return for Andre Johnson.

Heck, that's a trade I wouldn't even balk at in redraft.

 

[Adam Harstad]

12 Team PPR QRRWWTKF

Team A gives: DeAndre Hopkins

Team B gives: Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders

Mathews/Sanders.

 

[Adam Harstad]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

Marshall

Marshall = Winning....

In a vacuum, ok. But if you're rebuilding that's a decent haul

I might prefer the other side even on a contender. Two quality firsts and Vernon is a pretty strong cash-out value.

 

[PatsWillWin]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

Marshall

Marshall = Winning....

In a vacuum, ok. But if you're rebuilding that's a decent haul

I might prefer the other side even on a contender. Two quality firsts and Vernon is a pretty strong cash-out value.

Looks like one 1st to me. I like the Marshall side prreeetty easily.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I've said it elsewhere, but in dynasty I think there's a big advantage to be gained if you can arrive at accurate conclusions a little faster than the crowd as a whole.

Oh, you mean like saying before he had played a down in the NFL that Trent Richardson was a MORTAL LOCK to succeed?

Do we have to do this here? A large majority of dynasty owners believed this.

I don't recall many others saying that on this forum, that Richardson was a no lose, can't miss proposition. Many said he was the best player they had seen since ADP (or even better) but few, if any, took it a step further to say he was a MORTAL LOCK and a guaranteed success barring injury.

Some people think they can predict the future. But usually they cant.

I did alright with Jake Locker and Darren McFadden, didn't I?

Anticipation is a valuable practice in dynasty leagues, but assessing players in the preseason is less about predicting the future than it is about paying attention to the present. The preseason provides the first opportunity to see rookies in an NFL environment. There is quite a bit of actionable information to be gained from that. If you don't trust yourself to assess what you're watching and evaluate players on your own then you can always find some people whose opinions you do trust and act according to what they say. Either way, quite a few eventual breakout stars like Victor Cruz, Alfred Morris, and Marques Colston began as camp sensations. If you pay close attention, you can often get a jump on rostering those guys and/or get a sense for who looks legit and who doesn't. That applies to the preseason and the regular season as well. It applies to rookies, sophomores, and even veterans. Guys like Ingram are out there flashing talent that defies their consensus market value. Who's going to capitalize on that? Most of the time, it's going to be the people paying attention and not the guys who wait for every fluid situation to resolve itself decisively before they feel comfortable revising a player's valuation.

The jury is still out on Locker because of injuries, but we will probably know either way for certain this season if he is "Joke Locker" as you so cleverly nicknamed him.

DMC you predicted would be a complete bust in the league, but you wrong on that. In 2010 he was the 2nd best RB in points scored per game in PPR leagues (behind only Adrien Foster) playing 13 games IIRC and many DMC owners rode him to their league championship that year like I did in the league we are both in.

EBF gets stuff wrong sometimes. Show me who doesn't. Maybe we could move on.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Gave: R Cobb D Martin

Got D Bryant

I'm curious as to whether this is a negative view on Cobb or Martin (or neither...or both I guess).

 

[FUBAR]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

Marshall

Marshall = Winning....

In a vacuum, ok. But if you're rebuilding that's a decent haul

I might prefer the other side even on a contender. Two quality firsts and Vernon is a pretty strong cash-out value.

Looks like one 1st to me. I like the Marshall side prreeetty easily.

Benjamin = a 1st.

This is Oliver Vernon, right?

 

[FUBAR]

Gave: R Cobb D Martin

Got D Bryant

I'm curious as to whether this is a negative view on Cobb or Martin (or neither...or both I guess).

I have both in one league where I have good depth at WR but could use a stud in a league where we start 6 WR/RB. I'd consider making this deal but would likely keep Martin and Cobb. Seems fair to give two top 15 players at their positions for a top 4 at his. Depends on lineups though.

 

[mrnick33]

Team A gave: Tony Romo, Torrey Smith, Rod Streater

Team 2 gave: Peyton Manning.

 

[PatsWillWin]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + Superflex, TE Premium

Gave: Benjamin, Vernon, 2015 1st (mid)

Got: Marshall

Marshall

Marshall = Winning....

In a vacuum, ok. But if you're rebuilding that's a decent haul

I might prefer the other side even on a contender. Two quality firsts and Vernon is a pretty strong cash-out value.

Looks like one 1st to me. I like the Marshall side prreeetty easily.

Benjamin = a 1st.

This is Oliver Vernon, right?

Okay for some reason I just didn't see the word Benjamin. I think that's a pretty fair deal. If I am rebuilding, that's exactly the kind of price I'm hoping for in exchange for Marshall.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Gave: R Cobb D Martin

Got D Bryant

I'm curious as to whether this is a negative view on Cobb or Martin (or neither...or both I guess).

I have both in one league where I have good depth at WR but could use a stud in a league where we start 6 WR/RB. I'd consider making this deal but would likely keep Martin and Cobb. Seems fair to give two top 15 players at their positions for a top 4 at his. Depends on lineups though.

I could see very good arguments either way, which is why I find it an interesting trade. Some people are down on Martin (only had a couple of huge games vs. Oakland, injury, new coach, etc.). Other, somewhat down on Cobb (injuries, only one year left on contract with the Packers). I'm just curious if the Martin/Cobb seller was down on one, or both, of these guys or views it as two red chip players for one blue chip type thing. Me, I'm not giving up Martin to upgrade from Cobb to Dez, personally.

 

[One More Rep]

Gave: R Cobb D Martin

Got D Bryant

Gave: R Cobb D Martin

Got D Bryant

I like Martin and Cobb just fine but will take Dez here

 

[One More Rep]

Team A gave: Tony Romo, Torrey Smith, Rod Streater

Team 2 gave: Peyton Manning.

Team A gave: Tony Romo, Torrey Smith, Rod Streater

Team 2 gave: Peyton Manning.

I will take the Romo/Torrey side pretty much any format

 

[Concept Coop]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium

Team D gives: Andre Johnson

Team B gives: Vereen, Amendola, Eifert

Not involved. Strange one. I thought this was a nice little haul for AJ, but another Owner was texting me to say it wasn't nearly enough.

Great haul for AJ, imo, especially in a TE premium league. I personally think it's closer to fair if you take Vereen out, assuming TE PPR = 1.5.

 

[Henry Ford]

Team 1 gives: Andy Dalton

Team 2 gives: Percy Harvin