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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (4 Viewers)

I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.

Anyone who says "good deal" most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.

Once he signs in one of those places price automatically shoots up.

 
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I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.

 
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.

Anyone who says "good deal" most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.

Once he signs in one of those places price automatically shoots up.
...and he's going to earn less than Golden Tate. I actually agree that a late 2015 1st isn't a great haul, but using NFL player valuations doesn't help the argument.

ETA: Damn, CdL beat me to the punch.

 
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I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.
Hate to say it but Nicks may end up with a Riley Cooper type deal

 
I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.turn you
Come on now....equally likely??? I guess everyone needs to stretch a little in the morning :yes: ....but make sure you warm up before this type of stretching
He'll probably go wherever he gets the most $$$, and smarter teams generally are less likely to give a guy like him (injury history, two years of declining performance) a long term deal with any type of guarantees. I know that his FF owners want him in Indy or Carolina, but then again so did Decker owners. The players themselves don't care about your FF team.

 
I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.
Hate to say it but Nicks may end up with a Riley Cooper type deal
No way on God's green earth he gets five years from any competent GM.

 
I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.
Hate to say it but Nicks may end up with a Riley Cooper type deal
No way on God's green earth he gets five years from any competent GM.
That still leaves the Raiders, Dolphins and a handful of others.

 
I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.
Hate to say it but Nicks may end up with a Riley Cooper type deal
No way on God's green earth he gets five years from any competent GM.
That still leaves the Raiders, Dolphins and a handful of others.
Yes indeed it does, and that's why trading him for a rookie 1st right now might end up being a great move.

 
I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.

Anyone who says "good deal" most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.

Once he signs in one of those places price automatically shoots up.
Your post assumes that he stops being Hakeem Nicks. Most of the time, people are who they are. For me? I sold Nicks in 2012. Happy about that too. Maybe you should read more and it'll help you learn.

 
I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong.
Sorry, but that made me laugh.

I did the deal already having Calvin, D Thomas and Gordon as my 1-2-3 - with Terrance Williams as depth and the #1 and #2 rookie picks this year already (Watkins and Evans). I also had 34 players rostered (including IDP), and need to trim that down to 31 prior to our rookie draft in August - so in essence I got a likely late 1st next year (at best the #5, at worst the #10), and the extra player I can now roster with that spot (Donald Brown or Khiry Robinson or D'Qwell Jackson).

 
Just to continue the over talk on this guy...12 team PPR 1/1/1/1 (4 flex)

Gerhart Jax

for

2016 1st (not even worth me guessing)

 
Just to continue the over talk on this guy...12 team PPR 1/1/1/1 (4 flex)

Gerhart Jax

for

2016 1st (not even worth me guessing)
A lotto ticket in 2014 who will be likely spent by 2016, for a lotto ticket in 2016. If you're in "win now" mode, nothing wrong with it.

 
I traded away Nicks for a likely late 2015 1st in a 10 team league this morning.
You got a great deal here.
I don't think that's some great return you should be excited about and I have the feeling you'd be able to get more once he signs
+1
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.turn you
Come on now....equally likely??? I guess everyone needs to stretch a little in the morning :yes: ....but make sure you warm up before this type of stretching
He'll probably go wherever he gets the most $$$, and smarter teams generally are less likely to give a guy like him (injury history, two years of declining performance) a long term deal with any type of guarantees. I know that his FF owners want him in Indy or Carolina, but then again so did Decker owners. The players themselves don't care about your FF team.
Actually....after two years filled with injuries that impacted his performance, he is more likely to go to a good situation on a 1 yr prove it deal so he can make more next yr after a successful 2014. I would personally prefer him in Indy but it is much more likely he goes to Charlotte (played high school ball at Independence).
Do you seriously believe that he'd take a one year prove it deal in Indy or Carolina over a big multi year deal in Oakland or Jacksonville?

 
I think you are both wrong.
Funny, I think your wrong. Anyone who sold Nicks in the last 2 months likely will be regretting it this time next year. I would LOL if someone offered me a late first in next years draft.Anyone who says good deal most likely is in the same boat and traded short. He signs in Indy or Carolina you sold real short. These guys know better than some fantasy football geeks what his worth is.
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.turn you
Come on now....equally likely??? I guess everyone needs to stretch a little in the morning :yes: ....but make sure you warm up before this type of stretching
He'll probably go wherever he gets the most $$$, and smarter teams generally are less likely to give a guy like him (injury history, two years of declining performance) a long term deal with any type of guarantees. I know that his FF owners want him in Indy or Carolina, but then again so did Decker owners. The players themselves don't care about your FF team.
Actually....after two years filled with injuries that impacted his performance, he is more likely to go to a good situation on a 1 yr prove it deal so he can make more next yr after a successful 2014. I would personally prefer him in Indy but it is much more likely he goes to Charlotte (played high school ball at Independence).
Do you seriously believe that he'd take a one year prove it deal in Indy or Carolina over a big multi year deal in Oakland or Jacksonville?
No....I don't believe he will get a big multi yr in Oak or Jax and I don't think he is even talking to them. He has been fairly clear about the teams he would prefer to play for (Indy, Carolina, SD). The guy isn't dumb, he know his situation and wants to go to a good situation. Could he have a weak team reach out with a big offer...anything is possible, but I believe it was you that said "equally likely"
Who "has" Nicks agent talked with? I am of the opinion that Nicks sees himself as a premium WR. He will respond favorably to any team that sees him as a top option.

 
We'll see what kind of contract he gets relative to solid #2s like Decker and Tate -- and I'm pretty sure that it will be much less in $, years, and guarantees. Nicks has been hot garbage for two years now, and his FF value will likely be entirely dependent on where he signs. Could his value bounce back some in the right situation? Sure. But it's probably equally likely he goes to Oakland or Jacksonville or somewhere else where he'll be dead man walking. Either way, there's nothing at all wrong with wanting to cash out now for reasonable value. It isn't 2010 / 2011 anymore.turn you
Come on now....equally likely??? I guess everyone needs to stretch a little in the morning :yes: ....but make sure you warm up before this type of stretching
He'll probably go wherever he gets the most $$$, and smarter teams generally are less likely to give a guy like him (injury history, two years of declining performance) a long term deal with any type of guarantees. I know that his FF owners want him in Indy or Carolina, but then again so did Decker owners. The players themselves don't care about your FF team.
Actually....after two years filled with injuries that impacted his performance, he is more likely to go to a good situation on a 1 yr prove it deal so he can make more next yr after a successful 2014. I would personally prefer him in Indy but it is much more likely he goes to Charlotte (played high school ball at Independence).
Do you seriously believe that he'd take a one year prove it deal in Indy or Carolina over a big multi year deal in Oakland or Jacksonville?
No....I don't believe he will get a big multi yr in Oak or Jax and I don't think he is even talking to them. He has been fairly clear about the teams he would prefer to play for (Indy, Carolina, SD). The guy isn't dumb, he know his situation and wants to go to a good situation. Could he have a weak team reach out with a big offer...anything is possible, but I believe it was you that said "equally likely"
Who "has" Nicks agent talked with? I am of the opinion that Nicks sees himself as a premium WR. He will respond favorably to any team that sees him as a top option.
From what I have seen he talked to Carolina and will be in Indy tomorrow.

Edit: Just read that the Panthers offered him 4.5/yr...no word on how many yrs...http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/report-panthers-offer-giants-free-agent-nicks-article-1.1720292
Interesting. I saw this http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/13/panthers-not-showing-interest-in-nicks-yet/

Anyway where Nicks visits and who his agent has taken calls from are not necessarily the same so I would be skeptical that the only temas interested are the ones he is visiting.

 
RGIII (3 yr contract) / 2015 3rd

2015 1st / 2nd

draft both Luck in RGIII 2 yrs ago because I wasn't sure which one I liked better. Ofcourse Luck is now seen as the better option so I feel like I good deal here.

 
12 team dynasty PPR TE bonus

Team A got pick 1.1

Team B got

EJ Manuel, Deangelo Williams, Knowshon Moreno, Victor Cruz, Anquan Boldin, Jermichael Finely, Andrew Quarles

 
14 team PPR. We draft BEFORE the NFL draft.

Gave:

2.11

2015 1st (late)

Got:

Justin Hunter

3.08
Hunter
14 team PPR. We draft BEFORE the NFL draft.

Gave:

2.11

2015 1st (late)

Got:

Justin Hunter

3.08
I'll take 2.11 and the 1st
Good to see two different views on this. I think it's close, obviously prefer my side. The rookie picks are even riskier (but with possibly higher reward the deeper you go) because we draft before the NFL, and I'd far prefer Hunter to a random late 1st round player who could get drafted anywhere in the draft to any team in the NFL, if at all (Da'Rick was the 4th overall pick in this league last year).

 
14 team PPR. We draft BEFORE the NFL draft.

Gave:

2.11

2015 1st (late)

Got:

Justin Hunter

3.08
hunter...and i am not sure it is close for me

i get that the 2015 1st is a 1st but hunter will easily be worth that 1st and a 9 spot drop this year in the 3rd round basically

great deal for hunter imo

 
12 team dynasty PPR TE bonus

Team A got pick 1.1

Team B got

EJ Manuel, Deangelo Williams, Knowshon Moreno, Victor Cruz, Anquan Boldin, Jermichael Finely, Andrew Quarles
oooffff. A bunch of mediocrity, outside of Cruz, for a valuable commodity. Even if you didn't want to use the pick, you need to get a stud back in any deal where you move it. Cruz is a borderline stud I guess, but if Eli continues to regress and with him being the focus of opposing defenses now that can go the wrong way fast as well.

 
Team A gave up: Calvin Johnson, Toby Gerhart, Ben Tate

Team B gave up: Julio Jones, Eddie Lacy
Pretty close imo, but would take Julio and Lacy. With Calvin getting a little older guys like Jones may be closing the gap a bit and while I think Tate and Gerhart can be useful players and perhaps even be as productive as Lacy, I'll take his youth and "less risk".

Calvin is still best player in the deal though.

 
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Team A gave up: Calvin Johnson, Toby Gerhart, Ben Tate

Team B gave up: Julio Jones, Eddie Lacy
Pretty close imo, but would take Julio and Lacy. With Calvin getting a little older guys like Jones may be closing the gap a bit and while I think Tate and Gerhart can be useful players and perhaps even be as productive as Lacy, I'll take his youth and "less risk".

Calvin is still best player in the deal though.
Julio has injured the same bone in his foot twice in 4 years now. It's serious enough to knock him out of the season. I can understand that people want to get out of the Julio Jones owning business.

 

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