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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)

Black said:
JohnnyU said:
Gave Michael Floyd

Got Montee Ball

Thin at RB with only Murray, Gore, and Wilson.

Rich at WR with Julio Jones, Cobb, Decker, Patterson, Randle, Sammy Watkins, and MIke Evans.

Fair trade, but a no brainer for me.
If you feel Montee will be the RB1 (esp in non-PPR), seems like fair trade.

I like Floyd and would prefer him, but just depends on your needs.
It was just announced that Knowshon has signed with Miami. It could turn out that he got Montee cheap.
:)
Still disagree. I'm a much bigger believer in Floyd than you guys are and that's fine.
We can like Floyd and still prefer Denver's RB for the next couple years.

Until CJ Anderson beats him in camp anyway.
I still own Floyd in 3 leagues, so I really like him also, but I did what was best for my chances at a title in the league I traded him. I'm very happy about that trade.
In a vacuum I like Floyd by a good margin, but when you're trying to compete sometimes you have to make moves like this. While I'm not extremely high on him it's possible his value jumps up into the Lacy/Bell level by this time next year.

 
12 team PPR QRRWWWTF 21+4 Taxi

I Traded - Tavon, Mathews, and 2.09

I Received - Lynch, C Michael and Turbin

I have Julio, Dez, Garcon, Nicks and Hunter at WR and Morris, Vereen, TRich and Wilson at RB, so I felt I needed some RB help and could afford to give up Tavon
Lynch side every way possible

 
10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group

 
12 team PPR Start 1121+3flex

Got:
Ball, Montee DEN RB
Floyd, Michael ARI WR
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.02
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.02

Gave:
Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB
Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Jackson, Vincent TBB WR

 
12 team PPR Start 1121+3flex

Got:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Floyd, Michael ARI WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.02

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.02

Gave:

Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB

Hilton, T.Y. IND WR

Jackson, Vincent TBB WR
I can't believe you got the 1.02 on top of that. Remove the 1.02 and it's an even trade.

 
10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group
So many quarterbacks rostered for a 20 max roster league. Don't think I would give up 1.01 alone for ARod although I don't play non-ppr in Dynasty so maybe it's more even than it seems.

 
12 team non- PPR

Team A gave Montee Ball

Team B gave: 1.05, 2.12 & 2015 2nd rd pick
I would have taken Ball here before Moreno signed with Miami. Probably because I was positive Moreno would leave, but now that he did, definitely.

I wasnt high on Ball coming into the league. Still really not, and I generally go talent over situation...............but this isnt a normal "good situation". This is THE situation. I'll take two stud years over pick 5 and a couple late 2nds.

Or let him score like a stud this year and then take in a kings randsom next offseason

 
Black said:
JohnnyU said:
Gave Michael Floyd

Got Montee Ball

Thin at RB with only Murray, Gore, and Wilson.

Rich at WR with Julio Jones, Cobb, Decker, Patterson, Randle, Sammy Watkins, and MIke Evans.

Fair trade, but a no brainer for me.
If you feel Montee will be the RB1 (esp in non-PPR), seems like fair trade. I like Floyd and would prefer him, but just depends on your needs.
Agree. In fact I think there is a very good chance Ball gets drafted higher than Floyd later in the summer.

The starting rb in Denver is golden.

 
10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group
So many quarterbacks rostered for a 20 max roster league. Don't think I would give up 1.01 alone for ARod although I don't play non-ppr in Dynasty so maybe it's more even than it seems.
Had Locker on I/R which did not count against roster limit.. EJ was often hurt so picked up Glennon as depth. Wilson was ok last season but not great so was looking for another QB, Now that I have Rodgers will drop EJ and Glennon to make room for rookie picks.

 
16 team ppr league....think manziel is worth a 1.05 pick when my main weakness is QB?
You can get much better bang for your buck trading the pick if you want a QB. The bust rate on rookie 1st round QBs is high and they aren't generally fantasy useful until year 2 or 3. You should be able to get a 5-10 ranked dynasty QB for that pick, or, trade down from 1.05 and pick up value plus a mid-2nd pick where you can get one of the rookies coming out this year. Using the pick on Manziel is about like trading that pick for EJ Manuel or Flacco in my opinion, and you wouldn't do that. Don't get caught up in the pre-draft hype on this guy. He's not going to be a special NFL QB.

 
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16 team ppr league....think manziel is worth a 1.05 pick when my main weakness is QB?
You can get much better bang for your buck trading the pick if you want a QB. The bust rate on rookie 1st round QBs is high and they aren't generally fantasy useful until year 2 or 3. You should be able to get a 5-10 ranked dynasty QB for that pick, or, trade down from 1.05 and pick up value plus a mid-2nd pick where you can get one of the rookies coming out this year. Using the pick on Manziel is about like trading that pick for EJ Manuel or Flacco in my opinion, and you wouldn't do that. Don't get caught up in the pre-draft hype on this guy. He's not going to be a special NFL QB.
I agree that 1.05 is high for Manziel, but I think his rushing ability needs to be accounted for. The rushing QBs have been productive from week 1 (Tebow/Newton/RG3/Kaepernick). And what would Flacco be with an extra 500 yards and 6 TDs on the ground?

 
16 team ppr league....think manziel is worth a 1.05 pick when my main weakness is QB?
You can get much better bang for your buck trading the pick if you want a QB. The bust rate on rookie 1st round QBs is high and they aren't generally fantasy useful until year 2 or 3. You should be able to get a 5-10 ranked dynasty QB for that pick, or, trade down from 1.05 and pick up value plus a mid-2nd pick where you can get one of the rookies coming out this year. Using the pick on Manziel is about like trading that pick for EJ Manuel or Flacco in my opinion, and you wouldn't do that. Don't get caught up in the pre-draft hype on this guy. He's not going to be a special NFL QB.
I agree that 1.05 is high for Manziel, but I think his rushing ability needs to be accounted for. The rushing QBs have been productive from week 1 (Tebow/Newton/RG3/Kaepernick). And what would Flacco be with an extra 500 yards and 6 TDs on the ground?
16 team league I think 1.05 might be a bit high for Manziel but if you don't think he will be around at 2.05 then you may have to go that early. I can't imagine the QB's will go early unless you have some very needy teams in that league

 
10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group
So many quarterbacks rostered for a 20 max roster league. Don't think I would give up 1.01 alone for ARod although I don't play non-ppr in Dynasty so maybe it's more even than it seems.
If this is a start 1 QB 10 team league that is a pretty sizeable overpay when you already have Wilson and max 20 roster spots

 
10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group
So many quarterbacks rostered for a 20 max roster league. Don't think I would give up 1.01 alone for ARod although I don't play non-ppr in Dynasty so maybe it's more even than it seems.
If this is a start 1 QB 10 team league that is a pretty sizeable overpay when you already have Wilson and max 20 roster spots
I disagree. In 10 tm you need more studs. It lessens the value of Watkins or the generic 1.1 rookie RB because they won't necessarily be elite, just good. Only 30 WRs start each week and its non-PPR. Edelman is garbage in this format. The roster spots he gains have value too esp in the short bench league.

 
12 Team PPR:

Team A gives: Cordarrelle Patterson

Team B gives: DeSean Jackson, Terrance Williams, Lamar Miller

 
10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group
So many quarterbacks rostered for a 20 max roster league. Don't think I would give up 1.01 alone for ARod although I don't play non-ppr in Dynasty so maybe it's more even than it seems.
If this is a start 1 QB 10 team league that is a pretty sizeable overpay when you already have Wilson and max 20 roster spots
I disagree. In 10 tm you need more studs. It lessens the value of Watkins or the generic 1.1 rookie RB because they won't necessarily be elite, just good. Only 30 WRs start each week and its non-PPR. Edelman is garbage in this format. The roster spots he gains have value too esp in the short bench league.
Agree with this take. I think it's a great trade to get Rodgers

 
10 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only, start QRRWWWT + flex, 4 year max contracts (plus a 5 man rookie squad and a 2 man 2nd yr player devy squad)

Gave Mi.Floyd (4 yr), pick 1.07, pick 3.02, my 2015 1st (should be late)

Received De.Thomas (2 yr), pick 2.02, pick 2.06, Moreno (RFA, would have to resign him to keep him, minor value here)

~~~

My team:

Luck (4 yr), Bradford (2 yr)

Charles (2 yr), Tate (1), Vereen (2), L.Miller (3), Jo.Stewart (2)

J.Gordon (3), AJ Green (2), Ju.Jones (2), De.Thomas (2), B.Marshall (2) - (years of planning to get here)

J.Graham (1)

Have the rights to match the following RFAs (but won't be able to match them all):

Dez Bryant

Cam Newton, P.Manning

Moreno, B.Pierce

ETA: Apparently I am in a 2 year championship window. :)

 
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10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group
First thought was I liked it. Then I read the 10 team part and think you could have gotten a better deal. Rodgers may be the top dynasty QB but I'd still take the 1.01 over him in that format. Would have looked to deal the 1.08 for RG3 or someone else along those lines. Or 1.08 and something for Rodgers.

Who is K Patterson?

 
10 Team 20 Man rosters Non PPR Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def

Gave 1.01, J Locker, J Edelman and KC Def

Got A Rodgers, H Douglas and SF Def

QBs before trade were R Wilson, EJ Manuel, M Glennon and J Locker

WRs now are Gordon, K Patterson, M Crabtree, J Blackmon, D. Rogers, R Streater, M Goodwin, H Douglas and I still have the 1.8 which I will probably use on a WR

Figured upgrade of Rodgers > R Wilson will be more of an impact on my starting lineup then adding Watkins to my WR group
So many quarterbacks rostered for a 20 max roster league. Don't think I would give up 1.01 alone for ARod although I don't play non-ppr in Dynasty so maybe it's more even than it seems.
If this is a start 1 QB 10 team league that is a pretty sizeable overpay when you already have Wilson and max 20 roster spots
I disagree. In 10 tm you need more studs. It lessens the value of Watkins or the generic 1.1 rookie RB because they won't necessarily be elite, just good. Only 30 WRs start each week and its non-PPR. Edelman is garbage in this format. The roster spots he gains have value too esp in the short bench league.
I'd look at Rodgers - X QB, in this case Wilson for now. Removing Rodgers injured game, he scored roughly 6 pts more per game than Wilson last year. Assuming they stay at the same level, it's a good deal. But I don't think they do. Wilson should improve if Harvin is healthy. I think it will be closer to a 3 ppg difference. Watkins should yield more than that.

Agree that getting studs is even more important in a 10 team league, so your point is certainly valid. I'd be curious to see other deals in the league involving stud QBs to see if it was worthwhile.

 
14 Tm - QRRWWWTF - PPR(.75/1/1.25) - DEVY (1 rd)

Gave: Gore, P.Thomas, 2.03

Got: 2015 Devy (Middle of the pack)
Assuming a rebuild, I like it. for both really, assuming other team is a contender needing depth.
The other team is loaded and can certainly afford the move, having Gurley, Yeldon, and Ajayi joining his squad next season.

My team is rebuilding-ish. I'm likely middle of the road next season with a lot of 2015 assets (4x 1sts, 2x devys).
I like this one a lot for you. I would not have done it if I were the other team since I would want more bang for the buck on the Devy.
I'm the other side of the equation. I wanted to reinforce my weak spot rb. I won the league last year and feel like I was a little rb depth away from a repeat.(luck...foster/Mathews/DMC/gore/blount/Pierre...Jeffrey/ brown/ cobb/Lee/boldin/ Jennings/s smith...Graham... Seattle). The 2.3 is going to be a solid player too. The other advantage for me is I have the other teams devy pick... so by taking gore/Pierre/2.3 from him, I'm making that devy pick higher for me next year. Also as the op said I have gurley/yeldon/ajayi coming too

 
tdmills said:
14 Tm - QRRWWWTF - PPR(.75/1/1.25) - DEVY (1 rd)

Gave: Gore, P.Thomas, 2.03

Got: 2015 Devy (Middle of the pack)
Assuming a rebuild, I like it. for both really, assuming other team is a contender needing depth.
The other team is loaded and can certainly afford the move, having Gurley, Yeldon, and Ajayi joining his squad next season.

My team is rebuilding-ish. I'm likely middle of the road next season with a lot of 2015 assets (4x 1sts, 2x devys).
I like this one a lot for you. I would not have done it if I were the other team since I would want more bang for the buck on the Devy.
I'm the other side of the equation. I wanted to reinforce my weak spot rb. I won the league last year and feel like I was a little rb depth away from a repeat.(luck...foster/Mathews/DMC/gore/blount/Pierre...Jeffrey/ brown/ cobb/Lee/boldin/ Jennings/s smith...Graham... Seattle). The 2.3 is going to be a solid player too. The other advantage for me is I have the other teams devy pick... so by taking gore/Pierre/2.3 from him, I'm making that devy pick higher for me next year. Also as the op said I have gurley/yeldon/ajayi coming too
Ah, the classic sabotage. Always good to help with the rebuild when you own their pick, even if you have to give a little extra value.

 
Oooof.....Team A is a "rebuilding team" that has finished last 2 yrs in a row

12 team PPR

21 + 4 taxi

Q RR WWW T F

Team A just made 3 trades - I am not involved

Team A gets GTate, 1.09, 2.07

Team B gets DJax, 2015 1st (likely 1.01)

Team A gets DBladwin, S Hill, 4.06

Team C gets 2.01

Team A gets DBowe, 3.01

Team D gets 1.09

In total

Team A gets GTate, Bowe, Baldwin, S Hill, 2.07, 3.01, 4.06

Team A gave up DJax, 2015 1s (likely 1.01), 2.01

Like I said....oooof
I just don't follow his logic. Trading Djax alone for Tate and the 1.09 would have been a good move for him. Giving his one in that deal was way overkill. The other two trades are not rebuild type deals and he got robbed on them too.

 
Not involved in this one.

12 team devy league, ppr.

Team A gives: Calvin

Team B gives: Mike Wallace, 1.07, 1.09, 1.11 (again, devy league, so Watkins, lee, seastrunk, evans, etc are gone)

 
Here are a handful of recent deals in my 14 team dynasty

Not involved in any of these, just posting here as I think this thread is a great reference for people trying to gauge player values.

1) 1.03 for Spiller

2) 1.09 for Justin Hunter

3) 1.06 and Jarrett Boykin for Fitzgerald

4) 1.14 and 2.14 for Boykin, 2.06 and 4.10

5) Glennon for 2015 4th

 
Here are a handful of recent deals in my 14 team dynasty

Not involved in any of these, just posting here as I think this thread is a great reference for people trying to gauge player values.

1) 1.03 for Spiller

2) 1.09 for Justin Hunter

3) 1.06 and Jarrett Boykin for Fitzgerald

4) 1.14 and 2.14 for Boykin, 2.06 and 4.10

5) Glennon for 2015 4th
all of those seem pretty fair.

 
Put me also in the camp who thinks Floyd will be a stud, perhaps even as early as the upcoming season. You got ripped off, Johnny boy.
No. Ball makes his starting lineup better. This is a win for him. But only people who win dynasty leagues would know it.
 

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