*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (5 Viewers)

[Concept Coop]

at Matthews not starting. Donald Brown is a dog turd.

He looked good this year. I don't think he was brought in to start, but--for a stretch, at least--he looked as good as Mathews ever has.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

montee ball

for

2015 1st rounder

2015 2nd rounder

2015 3rd rounder

picks are from the same team, likely a playoff team

Someone threw their picks away.

I was thinking someone gave ball away. I guess the mixed reviews are signs that the trade was more fair than I thought. I'll gladly give my 2015 playoff caliber 1st three rounds for Ball

Yeah. I respect people's expectations for Ball. I don't share them. I also think when a talented young player gets a starter in front of him moved, that's a great sign. It only means he'll have the chance to play. If he is bad, it doesn't matter if Moreno is gone or not. If Ball makes Manning/Gase/Fox angry, he becomes an albatross. Ball seems to be alot like Moreno. He isn't outstanding at anything. Just my opinion. Also, the Broncos now have an opening at RB. They could draft one that might make the coaches think twice about feeding Ball.

 

[cstu]

at Matthews not starting. Donald Brown is a dog turd.

Who's had a higher YPC and YPR the past 2 years?

You think you know better than Chargers fan who have seen every play of Mathews' career? He won't be any loss to the team when they let him walk.

 

[5Rings]

montee ball

for

2015 1st rounder

2015 2nd rounder

2015 3rd rounder

picks are from the same team, likely a playoff team

Interesting. I am trying to get Ball in another league and the owner wants my 1.02, 1.04 and 1.05. I told him I would give him 1.02 (Watkins or Evans).I like the Ball side here, but make sure you try and get CJ Anderson as well.

I don't think Anderson's role is set in stone. Hillman could just as easily get the backup role this preseason.

yeah I know I missed the CJ andersons gonna be a stud memo

I have to laugh as his value is all over the board. I have picked him up in a couple leagues as a cuff for Ball. Other owners want the world for him. I also have Anderson in a couple other leagues and have tried to move him to Ball owners. Most have no interest.

One of the issues I have is that as much as I appreciate when Cecil Lammey covers Broncos camp, he pumps up almost every player. Makes it harder to sort the Julius Thomas's from the Jeremiah Johnson's. The big thing Anderson had going for him was that the team kept him on active roster even though he was injured last year. May seem like no big deal, but those roster spots become scarce as the season goes on. The fact they hung on to him means they like him and were afraid to lose him. Doesn't guarantee he pans out, but I can see why owners might be hopeful.

This is a pretty good point and one that I think people are afraid to discuss. Cecil has a terrible record. After listening to our "insider" and acquiring the wrong back or receiver each year, I went full ignore this past year and enjoyed great seasons from Moreno and Thomas. Cecil brings alot to FBGs and I'm not torching him, but I'd rather listen to his take on, say, Pittsburgh than Denver. Perhaps he just lets emotions get in the way.

 

[Spin]

10 team start 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex(any)/idp 1ppr

I gave: Julius Thomas

I received 1.5

I already have Vernon Davis and Jordan Reed at TE and could really use some RB depth. I already have 1.3,1.4 so gonna try to pair some 1sts together and get a RB.

His TEs were Garret Graham, Marcedes Lewis and Owen Daniels. He's stacked at RB/WR (Martin, Murray, Lacy / Dez, Julio, Jeffery) so this should push him close to the favorite.

Probably sold him a bit too cheap, but he's been on the block for awhile and this is the best offer I've really received.

 

[maxhyde]

10 team start 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex(any)/idp 1ppr

I gave: Julius Thomas

I received 1.5

I already have Vernon Davis and Jordan Reed at TE and could really use some RB depth. I already have 1.3,1.4 so gonna try to pair some 1sts together and get a RB.

His TEs were Garret Graham, Marcedes Lewis and Owen Daniels. He's stacked at RB/WR (Martin, Murray, Lacy / Dez, Julio, Jeffery) so this should push him close to the favorite.

Probably sold him a bit too cheap, but he's been on the block for awhile and this is the best offer I've really received.

Flex (any) mean supeflex? If so I think that is a pretty solid get for JT.

Nice work

 

[Spin]

10 team start 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex(any)/idp 1ppr

I gave: Julius Thomas

I received 1.5

I already have Vernon Davis and Jordan Reed at TE and could really use some RB depth. I already have 1.3,1.4 so gonna try to pair some 1sts together and get a RB.

His TEs were Garret Graham, Marcedes Lewis and Owen Daniels. He's stacked at RB/WR (Martin, Murray, Lacy / Dez, Julio, Jeffery) so this should push him close to the favorite.

Probably sold him a bit too cheap, but he's been on the block for awhile and this is the best offer I've really received.

Flex (any) mean supeflex? If so I think that is a pretty solid get for JT.

Nice work

Yah, Superflex

 

[32 Counter Pass]

at Matthews not starting. Donald Brown is a dog turd.

Who's had a higher YPC and YPR the past 2 years?

You think you know better than Chargers fan who have seen every play of Mathews' career? He won't be any loss to the team when they let him walk.

Unpack this for me please. Are you saying that Brown = Matthews? How do you see the touches split between the Charger RBs this year?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

at Matthews not starting. Donald Brown is a dog turd.

Who's had a higher YPC and YPR the past 2 years?

You think you know better than Chargers fan who have seen every play of Mathews' career? He won't be any loss to the team when they let him walk.

I live in Indiana and have seen far more Colts games than I'd care to the past five years -- and Donald Brown isn't any good. He's been beat out and outplayed by a collection of replacement level RBs from Joseph Addai (old version) to Vick Ballard. Indy gave him his walking papers six weeks prior to the start of free agency -- they didn't want him back at any price. He's just not good.

I get that you are bitter at the price paid for Matthews, and no, he's not LT. But I watched a bunch of SD games down the stretch last year, and Matthews absolutely did carry the offense. Not saying they will or should give him big bucks next year at all -- but if they hand the reins to Donald Brown, it's a massive downgrade. Brown is a backup level RB at best.

 

[Todem]

12 Team PPR (1 point per) 22 man rosters. QB RB RB WR WR WR TE RB/WR/TE Flex DST K

Team A Gives

Jamal Charles

Knowshon Moreno

Zach Ertz

Team B Gives

Arian Foster

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

Larry Fitzgerald

 

[Coeur de Lion]

12 Team PPR (1 point per) 22 man rosters. QB RB RB WR WR WR TE RB/WR/TE Flex DST K

Team A Gives

Jamal Charles

Knowshon Moreno

Zach Ertz

Team B Gives

Arian Foster

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

Larry Fitzgerald

Charles by a lot. He'll probably put up more points over baseline than the other side's four guys combined, unless Johnson lands somewhere truly spectacular. And he's doing it from one spot.

 

[maxhyde]

12 Team PPR (1 point per) 22 man rosters. QB RB RB WR WR WR TE RB/WR/TE Flex DST K

Team A Gives

Jamal Charles

Knowshon Moreno

Zach Ertz

Team B Gives

Arian Foster

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

Larry Fitzgerald

Charles by a lot. He'll probably put up more points over baseline than the other side's four guys combined, unless Johnson lands somewhere truly spectacular. And he's doing it from one spot.

Agreed

 

[Bamac]

Team C gives:

Antonio Brown

Team D gives:

Michael Crabtree, Ryan Matthews

FMV, but I'll take Brown because I don't see the value in Mathews.

Lol statement like no value in Mathews makes your opinion worth nil. Please support that. Guy had over 1300 yards with a slow start of the season and finished as strong rb2 on the year. Last 8 games he was RB 1. So yeah no value there.Guys like you crack me up. Either you sold too soon or wish you would have bought last year when he really was worth nothing.

1. I said the deal was fair market value, but I don't see the value in Mathews. Of course he's worth something, but I don't think he's worth the market price.

2. I own Mathews in one league, where I drafted him at 7.02 in a startup last year. I've never owned him otherwise (that I can remember).

3. Friendly suggestion: in the future, try to read and understand a comment before making unfounded personal attacks on the author. I understand that reading may not be your strength, but if you put in a little extra effort you may get more out of these forums than the fleeting satisfaction of having laughed at someone who disagrees with you.

 

[One More Rep]

10 team start 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex(any)/idp 1ppr

I gave: Julius Thomas

I received 1.5

I already have Vernon Davis and Jordan Reed at TE and could really use some RB depth. I already have 1.3,1.4 so gonna try to pair some 1sts together and get a RB.

His TEs were Garret Graham, Marcedes Lewis and Owen Daniels. He's stacked at RB/WR (Martin, Murray, Lacy / Dez, Julio, Jeffery) so this should push him close to the favorite.

Probably sold him a bit too cheap, but he's been on the block for awhile and this is the best offer I've really received.

I like the 1.5 in a regular ppr

12 Team PPR (1 point per) 22 man rosters. QB RB RB WR WR WR TE RB/WR/TE Flex DST K

Team A Gives

Jamal Charles

Knowshon Moreno

Zach Ertz

Team B Gives

Arian Foster

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

Larry Fitzgerald

Charles side

 

[djb916420]

12 Team PPR League

Team A gave: James Starks

Team B gave: Quinton Patton, 4.07 rookie

other league

Team A gave: Doug Baldwin

Team B gave: Brandon LaFell

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

?

 

[ghostguy123]

montee ball

for

2015 1st rounder

2015 2nd rounder

2015 3rd rounder

picks are from the same team, likely a playoff team

Someone threw their picks away.

I was thinking someone gave ball away. I guess the mixed reviews are signs that the trade was more fair than I thought. I'll gladly give my 2015 playoff caliber 1st three rounds for Ball

Yep. Ball pretty easy for me there

 

[msudaisy26]

Team A gave up Matt Ryan, Brian Hoyer, Doug Baldwin, Golden Tate, and Aaron Dobson

Team B gave up Sam Bradford, Ryan Tannehill, Roy Helu, Tavon Austin, Terrance Williams

PPR, 6 points for all touchdowns, 1qb, 2 rb, 2, wr, 1 te 2 flex (rb, wr, te)

 

[slackjawedyokel]

12 Team PPR League

Team A gave: James Starks

Team B gave: Quinton Patton, 4.07 rookie

other league

Team A gave: Doug Baldwin

Team B gave: Brandon LaFell

I like Patton and the pick.

Doug Baldwin for me as well.

 

[opensourcebeer]

12 team ppr, best ball scoring

Team A gives: M.Colston, pick 3.11

Team B gives: J.Cook

12 team ppr

Team A gives: C.J.Spiller, R.Randle, A.Dobson, pick 2.05, pick 2.07

Team B gives: M.Ball, C.J. Anderson, Michael Floyd

Team C gives T.King

Team D gives pick 3.09

Team E gives: P.Manning, T.Gerhart

Team F gives: A Rodgers

 

[Vincesanity]

12 team PPR

Jordy Nelson

M. Lattimore

K. Stills

1.06

1.11

2015 4th ( late 4th )

for

1.01

Joique Bell

2015 2nd ( early 2nd )

 

[MoveToSkypager]

12 Team PPR (1 point per) 22 man rosters. QB RB RB WR WR WR TE RB/WR/TE Flex DST K

Team A Gives

Jamal Charles

Knowshon Moreno

Zach Ertz

Team B Gives

Arian Foster

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

Larry Fitzgerald

moronic trade here. Who gives Charles for a bunch of beaten up players unlikely to see their old fantasy values?

 

[Scoonie Pencil]

12 team ppr, best ball scoring

Team A gives: M.Colston, pick 3.11

Team B gives: J.Cook

12 team ppr

Team A gives: C.J.Spiller, R.Randle, A.Dobson, pick 2.05, pick 2.07

Team B gives: M.Ball, C.J. Anderson, Michael Floyd

Team C gives T.King

Team D gives pick 3.09

Team E gives: P.Manning, T.Gerhart

Team F gives: A Rodgers

Colston, pick - easy

Spiller Side - argument for either side

3.9

Team E - Team F, depends on Situation

 

[cstu]

Team E gives: P.Manning, T.GerhartTeam F gives: A Rodgers

Team E - Team F, depends on Situation

I don't see a situation where this makes sense for Team F.

 

[cstu]

12 Team PPR (1 point per) 22 man rosters. QB RB RB WR WR WR TE RB/WR/TE Flex DST K

Team A Gives

Jamal Charles

Knowshon Moreno

Zach Ertz

Team B Gives

Arian Foster

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

Larry Fitzgerald

moronic trade here. Who gives Charles for a bunch of beaten up players unlikely to see their old fantasy values?

Wouldn't call Fitz broken down. There's still a chance he bounces back into the top 10.

 

[cstu]

12 team PPR

Jordy Nelson

M. Lattimore

K. Stills

1.06

1.11

2015 4th ( late 4th )

for

1.01

Joique Bell

2015 2nd ( early 2nd )

I'm a big supporter of Watkins, but c'mon.

 

[ghostguy123]

Team E gives: P.Manning, T.GerhartTeam F gives: A Rodgers

Team E - Team F, depends on Situation

I don't see a situation where this makes sense for Team F.

unless team F plans to quit the league very, very soon

 

[deadlyrange0321]

12 team tiered PPR (0.75/1.00/1.25) 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/3FLEX

Team A trades:

Shane Vereen

Greg Olsen

Team B trades:

Jordan Cameron

2015 3rd Rd Pick

 

[jmo87usc]

12 team PPR

Jordy Nelson

M. Lattimore

K. Stills

1.06

1.11

2015 4th ( late 4th )

for

1.01

Joique Bell

2015 2nd ( early 2nd )

I'm a big supporter of Watkins, but c'mon.

Agreed. Take out Jordy or the 1.11 and you can at least justify doing it.

 

[C & C]

Team A gave up:

Bailey, Stedman STL WR
Hunter, Justin TEN WR

Team B gave up:

Lattimore, Marcus SFO RB

 

[bostonfred]

12 team tiered PPR (0.75/1.00/1.25) 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/3FLEX

Team A trades:

Shane Vereen

Greg Olsen

Team B trades:

Jordan Cameron

2015 3rd Rd Pick

Vereen olsen side by a lot. Cameron has upside, but olsen might be the better player and vereen is a ppr stud rb.

 

[maxhyde]

12 Team PPR League

Team A gave: James Starks

Team B gave: Quinton Patton, 4.07 rookie

other league

Team A gave: Doug Baldwin

Team B gave: Brandon LaFell

Patton in the first and Baldwin in the second

 

[maxhyde]

Team A gave up:

Bailey, Stedman STL WR

Hunter, Justin TEN WR

Team B gave up:

Lattimore, Marcus SFO RB

Bailey/Hunter

 

[maxhyde]

12 team PPR

Jordy Nelson

M. Lattimore

K. Stills

1.06

1.11

2015 4th ( late 4th )

for

1.01

Joique Bell

2015 2nd ( early 2nd )

Massive overpay for 1.01...or Joique Bell

 

[gchip]

Team A gave up Matt Ryan, Brian Hoyer, Doug Baldwin, Golden Tate, and Aaron Dobson

Team B gave up Sam Bradford, Ryan Tannehill, Roy Helu, Tavon Austin, Terrance Williams

PPR, 6 points for all touchdowns, 1qb, 2 rb, 2, wr, 1 te 2 flex (rb, wr, te)

Seems pretty fair all around but I'd give the slight edge to the Matt Ryan/Golden Tate side.

I think they'll both have better years.

 

[One More Rep]

12 team tiered PPR (0.75/1.00/1.25) 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/3FLEX

Team A trades:

Shane Vereen

Greg Olsen

Team B trades:

Jordan Cameron

2015 3rd Rd Pick

Vereen/Olsen

 

[One More Rep]

Team A gave up:

Bailey, Stedman STL WR

Hunter, Justin TEN WR

Team B gave up:

Lattimore, Marcus SFO RB

Hunter

 

[BallzDeep]

12 team PPR

QB,RB, RB, WR, WR, WR,TE, 2 Flex

Team A received:

Terrance Williams

2.12 rookie

Team B received:

1.12

2.09

'15 2nd round pick

-------------------------------------

Different league, same format.

Team C received:

Josh Gordon

Team D received:

1.01 rookie

1.02

 

[gchip]

Saw this the other day in a 12Team / PPR / TE bonus league (with devys) and I'm curious about thoughts on this....

Gave:

Jordan Reed, 3.11, 2015 2nd & 3rd

Got:

1.12, 2.04

 

[gchip]

12 team PPR

QB,RB, RB, WR, WR, WR,TE, 2 Flex

Team A received:

Terrance Williams

2.12 rookie

Team B received:

1.12

2.09

'15 2nd round pick

-------------------------------------

Different league, same format.

Team C received:

Josh Gordon

Team D received:

1.01 rookie

1.02

Team A & Team D for me.

(IMO, I like Gordon but that's a lot to pay for him)

 

[maxhyde]

12 team tiered PPR (0.75/1.00/1.25) 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/3FLEX

Team A trades:

Shane Vereen

Greg Olsen

Team B trades:

Jordan Cameron

2015 3rd Rd Pick

Pretty close.

TE premium and I like Cameron but still seems like alot to give up.

Probably lean to the Vereen/Olsen side for now

 

[maxhyde]

12 team PPR

QB,RB, RB, WR, WR, WR,TE, 2 Flex

Team A received:

Terrance Williams

2.12 rookie

Team B received:

1.12

2.09

'15 2nd round pick

-------------------------------------

Different league, same format.

Team C received:

Josh Gordon

Team D received:

1.01 rookie

1.02

Picks in the first and Gordon in the second

 

[maxhyde]

Saw this the other day in a 12Team / PPR / TE bonus league (with devys) and I'm curious about thoughts on this....

Gave:

Jordan Reed, 3.11, 2015 2nd & 3rd

Got:

1.12, 2.04

I like 1.12, 2.04 but Reed's concussions have me concerned.

 

[sheerterror]

Start 2rb 2wr 1flex. PPR.

Gave:

1.06

2.02

Got:

Montee Ball

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR

QB,RB, RB, WR, WR, WR,TE, 2 Flex

Team A received:

Terrance Williams

2.12 rookie

Team B received:

1.12

2.09

'15 2nd round pick

-------------------------------------

Different league, same format.

Team C received:

Josh Gordon

Team D received:

1.01 rookie

1.02

Williams in first Gordon in second

 

[JMon348]

Bowe

for

2.3

 

[gchip]

Bowe

for

2.3

2.3

 

[One More Rep]

Bowe

for

2.3

I would take the pick

 

[One More Rep]

Start 2rb 2wr 1flex. PPR.

Gave:

1.06

2.02

Got:

Montee Ball

I will take the picks

 

[maxhyde]

Start 2rb 2wr 1flex. PPR.

Gave:

1.06

2.02

Got:

Montee Ball

Decent price for Ball