*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (4 Viewers)

[ghostguy123]

14 team PPR

Team A gets: Julius Thomas

Team B gets: Justin Hunter and David Wilson

Team A has fallen asleep at the wheel.

you sure you got that right?

 

[duaneok66]

14 team PPR

Team A gets: Julius Thomas

Team B gets: Justin Hunter and David Wilson

Team A.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:
Bernard, Giovani CIN RB
Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:
Ball, Montee DEN RB
Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

 

[ORC]

14 team PPR

Team A gets: Julius Thomas

Team B gets: Justin Hunter and David Wilson

Team A has fallen asleep at the wheel.

you sure you got that right?

Team A thinks Wilson's injury is that severe I guess.

 

[ORC]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

Might be a little closer without Randle. With him, would much rather have that side.

 

[cstu]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

This one makes no sense to me. Put Randle on the other side and I'd still prefer Gio.

 

[EBF]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

 

[r0llin_game]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

This is close to touching that Gio for TY deal I posted.

 

[ghostguy123]

14 team PPR

Team A gets: Julius Thomas

Team B gets: Justin Hunter and David Wilson

Team A has fallen asleep at the wheel.

you sure you got that right?

Team A thinks Wilson's injury is that severe I guess.

probably because it is

 

[ghostguy123]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

This is close to touching that Gio for TY deal I posted.

probably worse cause he also gave Randle

 

[One More Rep]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

Might be a little closer without Randle. With him, would much rather have that side.

Gio side easy

 

[Mighty Mice]

Gave up my 2.10 for Randle.

I know what Gilbride stated recently and now Cruz's comments. I guess I can't see the NYG taking a WR early (certainly not at 12) given the needs they have. And, I think a WCO being installed helps Randle and works with is skill set. He's shown flashes and is still only 22. Like him more than my likely options in the late 2nd.

What do you think?

 

[EBF]

I'd certainly roll the dice on him for that price.

 

[squistion]

Gave up my 2.10 for Randle.

I know what Gilbride stated recently and now Cruz's comments. I guess I can't see the NYG taking a WR early (certainly not at 12) given the needs they have. And, I think a WCO being installed helps Randle and works with is skill set. He's shown flashes and is still only 22. Like him more than my likely options in the late 2nd.

What do you think?

That I hope you are not in a league that votes on every trade.

 

[maxhyde]

Gave up my 2.10 for Randle.

I know what Gilbride stated recently and now Cruz's comments. I guess I can't see the NYG taking a WR early (certainly not at 12) given the needs they have. And, I think a WCO being installed helps Randle and works with is skill set. He's shown flashes and is still only 22. Like him more than my likely options in the late 2nd.

What do you think?

I would buy Randle for that I think

 

[JohnnyU]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

Ball will run circles around Gio's numbers. Sorry you can't see that, but I do.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

This one makes no sense to me. Put Randle on the other side and I'd still prefer Gio.

Ball will be a top 10 FF player this year and Gio won't. Randle is having issues with consistency and chemistry with Eli, so the way I see it is I'd rather give Randle for a 2nd as long as I really believe in the leap I will have from Gio to Ball and I do. I'm trying to win, not wait. That's about all I have to say about defending that trade, which I really don't need to do. It will all come out in the wash in December 2014.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

14 team PPR

Team A gets: Julius Thomas

Team B gets: Justin Hunter and David Wilson

Team A has fallen asleep at the wheel.

you sure you got that right?

I'm sure I got it wrong.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

Yeesh. Terrible trade for Team A.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

Yeesh. Terrible trade for Team A.

Over the final eight regular season games of last year, Ball rushed 65 times for 382 yds (5.87 ypc) with 3 TDs and 18 receptions for 118 yds for another TD. That was while playing behind Moreno. I can easily see 1600 or 1700 total yards and double digit TDs. Do you think Bernard will do better? Isn't he still in larger RBBC than what Ball will be in? I believe they are 1 year apart in age. It is always my philosophy to get the best player in the deal and I believe that is Ball if you want to win your league.

 

[ghostguy123]

Awesome, you like Ball more than Gio. You are in the very small minority.

 

[Gawain]

I like Ball more than Gio for 2014, but Gio carries more value than Ball currently.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

That's about all I have to say about defending that trade

 

[Vincesanity]

12 team PPR

Team A - 1.05

Team B - TY Hilton

 

[maxhyde]

12 team PPR

Team A - 1.05

Team B - TY Hilton

1.05 for me

 

[duaneok66]

12 team PPR

Team A - 1.05

Team B - TY Hilton

1.05 for me

good one . . . think I would take Hilton.

 

[duaneok66]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

Yeesh. Terrible trade for Team A.

Over the final eight regular season games of last year, Ball rushed 65 times for 382 yds (5.87 ypc) with 3 TDs and 18 receptions for 118 yds for another TD. That was while playing behind Moreno. I can easily see 1600 or 1700 total yards and double digit TDs. Do you think Bernard will do better? Isn't he still in larger RBBC than what Ball will be in? I believe they are 1 year apart in age. It is always my philosophy to get the best player in the deal and I believe that is Ball if you want to win your league.

right now, Gio has higher value than Ball. That could change in a few months.

 

[duaneok66]

that being said, with Randle in the deal, you have to take that side.

 

[starks2755]

12 Team, PPR, 1RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

• Team A gave up Cunningham, Benny STL RB;Ingram, Mark NOS RB; Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06;Year 2014 Draft Pick 4.06
• Team B gave up Murray, DeMarco DAL RB; Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.12

 

[maxhyde]

12 Team, PPR, 1RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

• Team A gave up Cunningham, Benny STL RB;Ingram, Mark NOS RB; Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06;Year 2014 Draft Pick 4.06
• Team B gave up Murray, DeMarco DAL RB; Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.12

Murray for me

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

Ball will run circles around Gio's numbers. Sorry you can't see that, but I do.

There's nothing like the "let me post my trade for commentary, and then lash out when people think I got the short end of the stick" schtick.

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR

Team A - 1.05

Team B - TY Hilton

1.5

 

[One More Rep]

12 Team, PPR, 1RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

• Team A gave up Cunningham, Benny STL RB;Ingram, Mark NOS RB; Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06;Year 2014 Draft Pick 4.06
• Team B gave up Murray, DeMarco DAL RB; Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.12

I will take the 1.6 side

 

[r0llin_game]

Montee probably will out score Gio this year, but I definitely think Gio is way more talented and will out score Montee overall the next five seasons.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

Ball will run circles around Gio's numbers. Sorry you can't see that, but I do.

There's nothing like the "let me post my trade for commentary, and then lash out when people think I got the short end of the stick" schtick.

Not at all. At least in one of my post I said why I like Ball instead of just criticizing without saying why.

"Over the final eight regular season games of last year, Ball rushed 65 times for 382 yds (5.87 ypc) with 3 TDs and 18 receptions for 118 yds for another TD. That was while playing behind Moreno. I can easily see 1600 or 1700 total yards and double digit TDs. Do you think Bernard will do better? Isn't he still in larger RBBC than what Ball will be in? I believe they are 1 year apart in age. It is always my philosophy to get the best player in the deal and I believe that is Ball if you want to win your league."

 

[matttyl]

Team A trades: Lacy, K Wright and the #5 rookie pick

Team B trades Forte, #2 and #7 rookie picks

Not sure how I feel about it.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

Ball will run circles around Gio's numbers. Sorry you can't see that, but I do.

There's nothing like the "let me post my trade for commentary, and then lash out when people think I got the short end of the stick" schtick.

Not at all. At least in one of my post I said why I like Ball instead of just criticizing without saying why.

"Over the final eight regular season games of last year, Ball rushed 65 times for 382 yds (5.87 ypc) with 3 TDs and 18 receptions for 118 yds for another TD. That was while playing behind Moreno. I can easily see 1600 or 1700 total yards and double digit TDs. Do you think Bernard will do better? Isn't he still in larger RBBC than what Ball will be in? I believe they are 1 year apart in age. It is always my philosophy to get the best player in the deal and I believe that is Ball if you want to win your league."

Yes. That's exactly what happened. Just cool off and come back when you don't want to argue please.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

Ball will run circles around Gio's numbers. Sorry you can't see that, but I do.

There's nothing like the "let me post my trade for commentary, and then lash out when people think I got the short end of the stick" schtick.

Not at all. At least in one of my post I said why I like Ball instead of just criticizing without saying why.

"Over the final eight regular season games of last year, Ball rushed 65 times for 382 yds (5.87 ypc) with 3 TDs and 18 receptions for 118 yds for another TD. That was while playing behind Moreno. I can easily see 1600 or 1700 total yards and double digit TDs. Do you think Bernard will do better? Isn't he still in larger RBBC than what Ball will be in? I believe they are 1 year apart in age. It is always my philosophy to get the best player in the deal and I believe that is Ball if you want to win your league."

It's certainly not a ludicrous position to take, preferring Ball (for 2014 especially), but like others I personally rank Gio higher than Ball. I just see him as the better talent (but yes there's more to production than just talent). I haven't done my 2014 projections yet, but I suspect both RBs will be in the same neighborhood. Gio has an OC that likes to run the ball, and BJGE is 29 and pedestrian to begin with.

I also think your panicking a little on Randle - based on a few vague quotes from the GM and former OC. Randle should be fine this season - as far as not having chemistry with Eli - what do you base that on? Last season the offense was a mess in general but Randle showed some play making ability scoring 6 TDs on 41 receptions, as a second year player.

Of course winning the battle of public perception will be meaningless if Ball has a top 5 season, and helps your fantasy team.

 

[maxhyde]

Team A trades: Lacy, K Wright and the #5 rookie pick

Team B trades Forte, #2 and #7 rookie picks

Not sure how I feel about it.

I feel like the former Forte owner made out pretty well.

I am not a Lacy fan but at worst Lacy=Forte+1.07.

Then KWright/1.05 for pick 1.02 seems like a overpay for Evans

 

[One More Rep]

Team A trades: Lacy, K Wright and the #5 rookie pick

Team B trades Forte, #2 and #7 rookie picks

Not sure how I feel about it.

Lacy side

 

[solorca]

Two recent trades from different leagues...

Gave - Torrey Smith, Da'rick Rogers, 2.2, 2.7

Received - Keenan Allen

Gave - Julian Edelman, Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener, 3.10

Received - Torrey Smith, Michael Vick, Levine Toilolo

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Gave - Torrey Smith, Da'rick Rogers, 2.2, 2.7

Received - Keenan Allen

I like Torrey Smith more than the concensus, but I'm shocked that offer was accepted. Good deal for you.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dynasty League that can draft college players (total of 12 allowed on all rosters combined).

Team A gave up:

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Team B gave up:

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B

I'd love to get Bernard for that. Wouldn't even need Randle in there to pull the trigger on that one.

Ball will run circles around Gio's numbers. Sorry you can't see that, but I do.

There's nothing like the "let me post my trade for commentary, and then lash out when people think I got the short end of the stick" schtick.

Not at all. At least in one of my post I said why I like Ball instead of just criticizing without saying why.

"Over the final eight regular season games of last year, Ball rushed 65 times for 382 yds (5.87 ypc) with 3 TDs and 18 receptions for 118 yds for another TD. That was while playing behind Moreno. I can easily see 1600 or 1700 total yards and double digit TDs. Do you think Bernard will do better? Isn't he still in larger RBBC than what Ball will be in? I believe they are 1 year apart in age. It is always my philosophy to get the best player in the deal and I believe that is Ball if you want to win your league."

It's certainly not a ludicrous position to take, preferring Ball (for 2014 especially), but like others I personally rank Gio higher than Ball. I just see him as the better talent (but yes there's more to production than just talent). I haven't done my 2014 projections yet, but I suspect both RBs will be in the same neighborhood. Gio has an OC that likes to run the ball, and BJGE is 29 and pedestrian to begin with.

I also think your panicking a little on Randle - based on a few vague quotes from the GM and former OC. Randle should be fine this season - as far as not having chemistry with Eli - what do you base that on? Last season the offense was a mess in general but Randle showed some play making ability scoring 6 TDs on 41 receptions, as a second year player.

Of course winning the battle of public perception will be meaningless if Ball has a top 5 season, and helps your fantasy team.

I can respect your position thinking Gio is a better talent, but I disagree, or at least think they are comparable. Also, I did not trade Randle for any other reason other than to get Ball, who I think could be a beast in 2014 and beyond. I still like Randle, even if he is somewhat inconsistent with Manning, running the wrong routes, etc.. If he ever figures it out he could be very good.

 

[Concept Coop]

Team A trades: Lacy, K Wright and the #5 rookie pick

Team B trades Forte, #2 and #7 rookie picks

Not sure how I feel about it.

I feel like the former Forte owner made out pretty well.

I am not a Lacy fan but at worst Lacy=Forte+1.07.

Then KWright/1.05 for pick 1.02 seems like a overpay for Evans

My thoughts as well.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Awesome, you like Ball more than Gio. You are in the very small minority.

Give me Ball. That minority will be all but full fledge census this time next year.

 

[solorca]

Gave - Torrey Smith, Da'rick Rogers, 2.2, 2.7

Received - Keenan Allen

I like Torrey Smith more than the concensus, but I'm shocked that offer was accepted. Good deal for you.

I'm the same, and had actually just traded for Torrey the week before. I had offered what I thought was a better deal (Torrey, Golden Tate, and a 2015 1st for Keenan), but this was his counter.

 

[maxhyde]

Two recent trades from different leagues...

Gave - Torrey Smith, Da'rick Rogers, 2.2, 2.7

Received - Keenan Allen

Gave - Julian Edelman, Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener, 3.10

Received - Torrey Smith, Michael Vick, Levine Toilolo

I like both deals for you. Upgrading to Torrey was a great deal imo

Upgrading to Allen from Torrey I think you did well

 

[Jeremy]

Here was another fun one in my 12 team dynasty. Large rosters (up to 35) and up to 30 man taxi squad where players can be kept up to 3 years. SAlary cap.

2015 1st (looks like a pretty good bet to be a playoff team)

for these picks this year:

36

37

38

39

40

44

45

47

48

The one team certainly cornered the market on 4th round picks.

 

[ghostguy123]

Awesome, you like Ball more than Gio. You are in the very small minority.

Give me Ball. That minority will be all but full fledge census this time next year.

whatever floats your boat.

Gio talent>>>>Ball talent

Ball situation>>>>Gio situation

two young backs, give me the more talented guy.

If Ball scores more than Gio this year, so be it. Still takin Gio

 

[ghostguy123]

Here was another fun one in my 12 team dynasty. Large rosters (up to 35) and up to 30 man taxi squad where players can be kept up to 3 years. SAlary cap.

2015 1st (looks like a pretty good bet to be a playoff team)

for these picks this year:

36

37

38

39

40

44

45

47

48

The one team certainly cornered the market on 4th round picks.

You saying that guy got hosed?