*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (3 Viewers)

[r0llin_game]

My biggest things about Torrey is I don't think he's a good route runner along with his hands are awful. I've tried selling him in a couple leagues that I have him in.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

In that lineup, I'd call spiller and Cobb roughly equal. Spiller might be worth more.

I am probably more down on Spiller than most I think. Dude is a 27 year old RB with one decent year so far and the rest duds.

Not like anything has changed to make me think he is in store for 3 straight productive seasons.

He turns 27 in August, netted over 1100 yards from scrimmage last year and 1700 the year before. I think you're undervaluing him.

But then, I just traded Cameron++ for him, so I'm biased.

He will be 27 before week 1, so he is 27 for the purposes of football and fantasy football.

As I said, he has had ONE decent year. Last year was pretty bad, especially for fantasy. His 1100 yards were pretty worthless for fantasy purposes.

I think he is talented and COULD do well..............but I don't know too maybe RBs in history that finally did well when they hit 27 after underwhelming for a while prior to that. Well, except maybe his teammate Fjax

A few "late bloomers" that come to mind:

Thomas Jones

Cedric Benson

Michael Turner (circumstances dictated his lack of early success)

Priest Holmes

 

[r0llin_game]

I turned this down. Thought it was a decent offer.

Give:

Mark Ingram, 2.03

Receive:

Rueben Randle, Brandon Bolden

 

[maxhyde]

QB - 2 RB - 3 WR - 1 TE - 2 Flex12 team ppr

Colston

Spiller

Torrey Smith

For

Cobb

R Randle

B LaFell

I am actually the team that traded away Cobb. I know the other guy got the better end of the deal, but I was looking at Ryan Mathews as a#1 RB and #2 was either Deangelo Williams or Steven Jackson. Have an aging, must win now team. Normally I hate any deal where I give up the best player, but in this one, I'm prepared to live with it.

Lineup is

Cam or Romo

Spiller

Mathews

Calvin

Cruz

Torrey Smith

Roddy

Colston

Vernon Davis

Not sure you even lost that deal in a start 2 RB Spiller is a nice add. TSmith is a solid WR2/3 and Colston can maybe do the same.

Cobb is the only player on the other side that has any history of being a fantasy asset. Randle is as much a "hope he breaks out add" and no sure thing. LaFell is filler.

I think that trade is much closer than some obviously trading away the best player for some solid FF starters (assuming Spiller improves form last year). Sometimes these are moves owners have to make to stay in contention and for your team it makes sense

 

[maxhyde]

10 team ppr 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-2 Flex (R/W/T)

A Gives: Colston + 4.04

B Gives: 2.07 + 3.10

A Gives: Montee Ball, Stephen Hill

C Gives: Michael Floyd, Tyler Eifert, 4.01

Good job, A.

+1

Straight thievery in that 2nd deal

 

[r0llin_game]

I turned this down. Thought it was a decent offer.

Give:

Mark Ingram, 2.03

Receive:

Rueben Randle, Brandon Bolden

And he just sent Randle for 3.01 (3.03, we have a 1.13 and 2.13 for toilet bowls)

 

[MoveToSkypager]

10 team ppr 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-2 Flex (R/W/T)

A Gives: Colston + 4.04

B Gives: 2.07 + 3.10

A Gives: Montee Ball, Stephen Hill

C Gives: Michael Floyd, Tyler Eifert, 4.01

Good job, A.

+1

Straight thievery in that 2nd deal

Mike Floyd is gonna be winning some leagues in 2014.

 

[kutta]

10 team ppr 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-2 Flex (R/W/T)

A Gives: Colston + 4.04

B Gives: 2.07 + 3.10

A Gives: Montee Ball, Stephen Hill

C Gives: Michael Floyd, Tyler Eifert, 4.01

Good job, A.

+1

Straight thievery in that 2nd deal

I guess I like Colston more than most. With Lance Moore and Sproles both gone, Brees is going to have fewer targets that he trusts. I could see Colston really have a good couple years and catching a ton of balls. He's not a long-term guy, but give me Colston as my WR2 for the next couple years and I'm pretty happy.

 

[bostonfred]

Michael floyd is so overrated right now its ridiculous.

 

[maxhyde]

Michael floyd is so overrated right now its ridiculous.

Even IF Ball > Floyd. He isn't but Ball carries some value right now so I would be fine if people want Ball more today. More fine if they want to trade me Floyd for Ball

Eifert >>>>>>>> Hill

4.01 >> 0

 

[jmo87usc]

Dalton + 1.05 + 2.10

For

Tannehill 1.03 + 2.03

Congrats on being in a league with Andy's mom.

Give me dalton side, but only if I can wait until after the nfl draft to make sure cinci doesn't take a qb.

The 2.3 looks like a late 1st in other years. Looking at the talent that will be there I'd trade Dalton straight up for the 2.3 and find myself another QB2.

I would take Tannehill over Dalton straight up. He's been just as good with a way worse supporting cast. Will only get better IMO.

 

[FUBAR]

Dalton + 1.05 + 2.10

For

Tannehill 1.03 + 2.03

Congrats on being in a league with Andy's mom.

Give me dalton side, but only if I can wait until after the nfl draft to make sure cinci doesn't take a qb.

The 2.3 looks like a late 1st in other years. Looking at the talent that will be there I'd trade Dalton straight up for the 2.3 and find myself another QB2.

I would take Tannehill over Dalton straight up. He's been just as good with a way worse supporting cast. Will only get better IMO.

long term, yes.

Next year or two? Give me Dalton.

 

[Concept Coop]

14Tm - QRRWWWTFF - PPR: 1/1/1.5

A gave up:
Gillislee, Mike MIA RB
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.01
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10

B gave up:
Lacy, Eddie GBP RB
Starks, James GBP RB
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.14

 

[EBF]

Even in a 14 team 2 RB league, I'd take the picks over Lacy. Might prefer the 1.01 alone. The 1.10 is a great bonus, especially with the 1.5 PPR for TE. Should be able to get a very good prospect in that #10 spot.

 

[Todem]

Dalton + 1.05 + 2.10

For

Tannehill 1.03 + 2.03

Congrats on being in a league with Andy's mom.

Give me dalton side, but only if I can wait until after the nfl draft to make sure cinci doesn't take a qb.

The 2.3 looks like a late 1st in other years. Looking at the talent that will be there I'd trade Dalton straight up for the 2.3 and find myself another QB2.

I would take Tannehill over Dalton straight up. He's been just as good with a way worse supporting cast. Will only get better IMO.

Dalton finished #3 overall in points for QB's in my leagues vs 14th overall for Tannehill.

I am a huge Dolphins homer. But for FF....give me Dalton.

It's not as close as you think.

 

[Matty2D]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

 

[Phenomena]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

You grossly overpaid for him both times. Even if you believe he's the next Antonio Gates, market value dictates you got hosed. These guys aren't within 20 spots of each other on any dynasty start-up I can find.

 

[Matty2D]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

You grossly overpaid for him both times. Even if you believe he's the next Antonio Gates, market value dictates you got hosed. These guys aren't within 20 spots of each other on any dynasty start-up I can find.

I am curious to see what start-ups where this is the case?

I think they are all closely ranked players. On DLF the ADP for April has Green more than a round ahead of Rice and a few picks ahead of Williams. I like Williams a lot but in that particular league he was my #6 WR and I didn't really have a TE.

The Rice deal I made because I can't really compete this year and Rice has probably 2 seasons left.

Plus, I don't see any deals this year where Rice was going for a mid-to-late first round like Green has. I like Green more than Ebron and he has gone as high as 1.04 in pre-draft leagues I am in.

 

[BallzDeep]

FFPC dynasty

Spiller

3.03 rookie

For

Trent Richardson

Bernard Pierce

Tavon Austin

 

[Concept Coop]

12 Tm - QRWWTFF - PPR:1/1/1.25

Gave:
Cruz, Victor NYG WR
Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.11
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.01
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR

Likely an overpay, but in this shallow format, studs are going to decide the league.

Q - Eli

R - RBBC: Pierce, Pierre, Greene, Sproles, Blount, Turbin

W - Calvin

W - Dez

T - Gronk

F - AJ Green

F - G. Jennings

Picks: 1.05

 

[cdubz]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

You grossly overpaid for him both times. Even if you believe he's the next Antonio Gates, market value dictates you got hosed. These guys aren't within 20 spots of each other on any dynasty start-up I can find.

Not sure what start-ups you are looking at. I'd prefer Green to Rice and Williams/Green is probably a toss-up from a "market value" standpoint. Depending on roster composition, I'd be up for taking the Green side.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

12 Tm - QRWWTFF - PPR:1/1/1.25

Gave:

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.11

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR

Likely an overpay, but in this shallow format, studs are going to decide the league.

Q - Eli

R - RBBC: Pierce, Pierre, Greene, Sproles, Blount, Turbin

W - Calvin

W - Dez

T - Gronk

F - AJ Green

F - G. Jennings

Picks: 1.05

Not an overpay at all, I'd say under pay

 

[maxhyde]

14Tm - QRRWWWTFF - PPR: 1/1/1.5

A gave up:

Gillislee, Mike MIA RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10

B gave up:

Lacy, Eddie GBP RB

Starks, James GBP RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.14

Picks for me.

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

If I were rebuilding or had a solid TE already I could see doing Twill. Rice is a bit of a gamble selling him low and buying Green high. Could be bad if Rice has a top 10 year

FFPC dynasty

Spiller

3.03 rookie

For

Trent Richardson

Bernard Pierce

Tavon Austin

Pretty close. Probably still Spiller for me but some upside on the other side

12 Tm - QRWWTFF - PPR:1/1/1.25

Gave:

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.11

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR

Likely an overpay, but in this shallow format, studs are going to decide the league.

Q - Eli

R - RBBC: Pierce, Pierre, Greene, Sproles, Blount, Turbin

W - Calvin

W - Dez

T - Gronk

F - AJ Green

F - G. Jennings

Picks: 1.05

Hard to believe he let you keep 1.05.

I think this is an easy price to pay for AJG

 

[Skeletore Eh]

14Tm - QRRWWWTFF - PPR: 1/1/1.5

A gave up:

Gillislee, Mike MIA RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10

B gave up:

Lacy, Eddie GBP RB

Starks, James GBP RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.14

Picks for me.

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

If I were rebuilding or had a solid TE already I could see doing Twill. Rice is a bit of a gamble selling him low and buying Green high. Could be bad if Rice has a top 10 year

using all my creativity i can't come up with a scenario where rice is top 10 this year. he's going to miss games due to suspension and he was awful last year. i'd take green easily over rice. I'd also take green over williams

 

[opensourcebeer]

12 Tm - QRWWTFF - PPR:1/1/1.25

Gave:

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.11

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR

Likely an overpay, but in this shallow format, studs are going to decide the league.

Q - Eli

R - RBBC: Pierce, Pierre, Greene, Sproles, Blount, Turbin

W - Calvin

W - Dez

T - Gronk

F - AJ Green

F - G. Jennings

Picks: 1.05

I'd pay that all day long for Green, regardless of roster size. Also, that is an ugly mess at RB you have. ;-)

 

[Concept Coop]

I'd pay that all day long for Green, regardless of roster size. Also, that is an ugly mess at RB you have. ;-)

Very ugly! QB too. But...I get to start AJ Green in my flex spot.

 

[Dez]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

What a difference 1 year makes

 

[Concept Coop]

12 Tm - QRWWTFF - PPR:1/1/1.25

Gave:

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.11

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR

Likely an overpay, but in this shallow format, studs are going to decide the league.

Q - Eli

R - RBBC: Pierce, Pierre, Greene, Sproles, Blount, Turbin

W - Calvin

W - Dez

T - Gronk

F - AJ Green

F - G. Jennings

Picks: 1.05

Same league, same teams:

Gave: 1.05, 3rd(2015), 4th(2015)

Got: Witten, 1.11

 

[maxhyde]

14Tm - QRRWWWTFF - PPR: 1/1/1.5

A gave up:

Gillislee, Mike MIA RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10

B gave up:

Lacy, Eddie GBP RB

Starks, James GBP RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.14

Picks for me.

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

If I were rebuilding or had a solid TE already I could see doing Twill. Rice is a bit of a gamble selling him low and buying Green high. Could be bad if Rice has a top 10 year

using all my creativity i can't come up with a scenario where rice is top 10 this year. he's going to miss games due to suspension and he was awful last year. i'd take green easily over rice. I'd also take green over williams

Not sure I understand how a guy drafted (and considered) a top5 RB one year ago can't in any creative scenario score in the top 10

Even missing a few games if he is suspended I don't think it is actually a massive reach to think he can get there. Not a big group of players that are likely to even have the opportunity to do it let alone the talent

 

[maxhyde]

12 Tm - QRWWTFF - PPR:1/1/1.25

Gave:

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.11

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR

Likely an overpay, but in this shallow format, studs are going to decide the league.

Q - Eli

R - RBBC: Pierce, Pierre, Greene, Sproles, Blount, Turbin

W - Calvin

W - Dez

T - Gronk

F - AJ Green

F - G. Jennings

Picks: 1.05

Same league, same teams:

Gave: 1.05, 3rd(2015), 4th(2015)

Got: Witten, 1.11

Nice deal to cover Gronk for 6 games and flex in for Jennings when Gronk is back

Not sure there is a massive drop-off from 1.05 to 1.11

 

[DexterDew]

getting Witten to move down 6 spots is a no brainer

 

[memphis raines]

This trade went down today in my league.

Team A gave- Dez Bryant, 3.12, 2015 3rd

Team B gave- Michael Floyd, Justin Hunter, 1.10, 2015 1st

 

[JoshuaJon]

Not a big group of players that are likely to even have the opportunity to do it let alone the talent

Probably around 10 or so.

 

[One More Rep]

This trade went down today in my league.

Team A gave- Dez Bryant, 3.12, 2015 3rd

Team B gave- Michael Floyd, Justin Hunter, 1.10, 2015 1st

This looks like it could be a good deal for both sides

 

[FUBAR]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

You grossly overpaid for him both times. Even if you believe he's the next Antonio Gates, market value dictates you got hosed. These guys aren't within 20 spots of each other on any dynasty start-up I can find.

Weird, I thought he got a steal on the first (long term) and a fair deal on the second.

 

[FUBAR]

This trade went down today in my league.

Team A gave- Dez Bryant, 3.12, 2015 3rd

Team B gave- Michael Floyd, Justin Hunter, 1.10, 2015 1st

This looks like it could be a good deal for both sides

this is the kind of deal one side is likely happy for a bit, then the other is happier.

 

[jonboltz]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

You grossly overpaid for him both times. Even if you believe he's the next Antonio Gates, market value dictates you got hosed. These guys aren't within 20 spots of each other on any dynasty start-up I can find.

Prefer Green in both trades; don't consider either of them close.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Gave: Blackmon

Received: Roddy White/2015 2nd

then

Gave: Roddy White/2015 3rd

Received: Ray Rice/Bernard Pierce

 

[Dragon1952]

The wife just accepted this trade which netted her Calvin Johnson

16 team, 1 PPR, 10 starters (no kickers)

Total Starters: 10 Number of Starting QBs: 1 Number of Starting RBs: 2-4 Number of Starting WRs: 3-5 Number of Starting TEs: 1-3 Number of Starting Defs: 1

Team A gave - Calvin Johnson, Frank Gore, Stevie Johnson

Team B gave - Keenan Allen, Danny Woodhead, rookie pick 1.13, 2015 1st rookie pick

 

[Matty2D]

Been a pretty busy day today for me.

Gave: Ben Tate and Nate Washington

Received: Kendall Wright

12 Team PPR. I believe Wright is pretty underrated and his TD totals have to go up. I think Cleveland drafts a RB on day 2 and knocks Tate down a bit.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Been a pretty busy day today for me.

Gave: Ben Tate and Nate Washington

Received: Kendall Wright

12 Team PPR. I believe Wright is pretty underrated and his TD totals have to go up. I think Cleveland drafts a RB on day 2 and knocks Tate down a bit.

Pretty big bet on a guess like that.

 

[One More Rep]

Been a pretty busy day today for me.

Gave: Ben Tate and Nate Washington

Received: Kendall Wright

12 Team PPR. I believe Wright is pretty underrated and his TD totals have to go up. I think Cleveland drafts a RB on day 2 and knocks Tate down a bit.

I rather have Wright either way

 

[maxhyde]

This trade went down today in my league.

Team A gave- Dez Bryant, 3.12, 2015 3rd

Team B gave- Michael Floyd, Justin Hunter, 1.10, 2015 1st

Probably still Dez for me but this is a decent deal.

 

[maxhyde]

Been a pretty busy day today for me.

Gave: Ben Tate and Nate Washington

Received: Kendall Wright

12 Team PPR. I believe Wright is pretty underrated and his TD totals have to go up. I think Cleveland drafts a RB on day 2 and knocks Tate down a bit.

Wright for me.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 Tm - QRWWTFF - PPR:1/1/1.25

Gave:

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.11

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR

Likely an overpay, but in this shallow format, studs are going to decide the league.

Q - Eli

R - RBBC: Pierce, Pierre, Greene, Sproles, Blount, Turbin

W - Calvin

W - Dez

T - Gronk

F - AJ Green

F - G. Jennings

Picks: 1.05

Not an overpay at all, I'd say under pay

agreed. Not an overpay one bit

 

[ghostguy123]

edit................wrong thread, I am dumb..............................

 

[ghostguy123]

checkin the specs on the endline...rotary....der der

 

[Sitch]

Been a pretty busy day today for me.

Gave: Ben Tate and Nate Washington

Received: Kendall Wright

12 Team PPR. I believe Wright is pretty underrated and his TD totals have to go up. I think Cleveland drafts a RB on day 2 and knocks Tate down a bit.

I rather have Wright either way

Agreed - Wright pretty easily actually. Not high on Tate at all and Wright is very underrated in a PPR

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

You grossly overpaid for him both times. Even if you believe he's the next Antonio Gates, market value dictates you got hosed. These guys aren't within 20 spots of each other on any dynasty start-up I can find.

[/quote

Weird, I thought he got a steal on the first (long term) and a fair deal on the second.

I haven't seen a TE as over valued as green in a long time. Finley at least was the starter.

Green is going for waaaaaaaaaaay too much for never have done anything, number 2 TE on his team, and not a high draft pedigree. I could understand if he had maybe 50 catches last season and didn't have Gates in front of him.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

14Tm - QRRWWWTFF - PPR: 1/1/1.5

A gave up:

Gillislee, Mike MIA RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.01

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10

B gave up:

Lacy, Eddie GBP RB

Starks, James GBP RB

Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.14

Picks for me.

Made a couple of trades for Ladarius Green today.

12 Team PPR SuperFlex

Gave: Ray Rice

Received: Ladarius Green

12 Team PPR

Gave: Terrance Williams

Received: Ladarius Green

If I were rebuilding or had a solid TE already I could see doing Twill. Rice is a bit of a gamble selling him low and buying Green high. Could be bad if Rice has a top 10 year

using all my creativity i can't come up with a scenario where rice is top 10 this year. he's going to miss games due to suspension and he was awful last year. i'd take green easily over rice. I'd also take green over williams

Not sure I understand how a guy drafted (and considered) a top5 RB one year ago can't in any creative scenario score in the top 10

Even missing a few games if he is suspended I don't think it is actually a massive reach to think he can get there. Not a big group of players that are likely to even have the opportunity to do it let alone the talent

Well i think he's going to get suspended for 2-4 games. So say he misses 3. Pierce will (most likely) be the feature back for those 3 games and I doubt rice just steps back into a lead back role and dominates carries upon his return. Even if he does, it will probably take another game or two. So you are looking at him playing 13 games, and of those 13, 1 or 2 he'll be splitting carries in a best case scenario.

So i dont think he has the situation to do it and as far as the talent, who knows