Leroy Hoard
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Maybe they can have a doubleheader tomorrow, just have all 3 teams show up.Just turned on ESPN2. There is a rain delay right now.
Maybe they can have a doubleheader tomorrow, just have all 3 teams show up.Just turned on ESPN2. There is a rain delay right now.
DD said that they aren't sure yet - but Dusty Ryan is definitely one of the candidates. The pb situation isn't fatal - that is definitely something that he can improve upon.I was warned about this catcher from a friend of mine who went to the entire Cleveland series, apparently passed balls are a common occurrence. I'd really like to know what they have planned for us behind the dish next year...
IngeI was warned about this catcher from a friend of mine who went to the entire Cleveland series, apparently passed balls are a common occurrence. I'd really like to know what they have planned for us behind the dish next year...
Officially clinched last place with the loss! Very frustrating -- not only b/c the team played so poorly but the Central was there for the taking if they won 90 games like we were all saying would get them in the playoffs at the start of the season.Looks like Garcia wasn't ready to pitch in '08 like Ozzie said. Pitched pretty well though until his shoulder gave out. I am thinking they should hold ST in a cold weather climate so we can avoid the whole "the Latin American players can't hit well in April b/c they are getting used to the cold Michigan weather" excuse next year after they start the regular season.Should be interesting to see what they do to overhaul the roster and cut payroll. Hopefully the lineup stays intact and DD works on overhauling the bullpen.On to next year!
Inge will be the every day 3rd baseman & Carlos will be the left fielder, at least that's the story for now.IngeI was warned about this catcher from a friend of mine who went to the entire Cleveland series, apparently passed balls are a common occurrence. I'd really like to know what they have planned for us behind the dish next year...
I actually like this. I am sure they wanted to do this during the season but didn't want to throw Guillen into LF in the middle of the season (although I think he may have played a game or two in LF during the middle of the season). They can give him some time to learn the position in ST instead. I know this is an obvious statement but they really need to improve their defense -- I think only Texas had a worse defense (either based on fielding percentage/total number of errors -- I can't remember) in the AL. Putting Inge at 3B will definitely help that and I really like how Cabrera picked up playing 1B during the season. I think Vance Wilson is done, right? He was in the dugout during the final series but I thought his shoulder was so messed up that it is unlikely he will play again. If that's the case, then who knows who will be our catcher in 2009. That is the biggest hole in our farm system. Alex Avila was pretty good in West Michigan this year but he is still 3-4 years away. It will be interesting to see who plays SS next year. Santiago is not an everyday SS but maybe he and Hollimon can platoon. I still wouldn't be surprised if Renteria is brought back at a bargain price. I really don't see the Tigers being buyers in the FA market to get a new SS but who knows.Inge will be the every day 3rd baseman & Carlos will be the left fielder, at least that's the story for now.IngeI was warned about this catcher from a friend of mine who went to the entire Cleveland series, apparently passed balls are a common occurrence. I'd really like to know what they have planned for us behind the dish next year...
And do what? Play against themselves?I am thinking they should hold ST in a cold weather climate so we can avoid the whole "the Latin American players can't hit well in April b/c they are getting used to the cold Michigan weather" excuse next year after they start the regular season.
I wasn't serious; just joking. I am just anticipating another possible slow hitting April next year where they make the same excuse about the cold weather affecting the Latin American players again.Capella said:And do what? Play against themselves?skillz said:I am thinking they should hold ST in a cold weather climate so we can avoid the whole "the Latin American players can't hit well in April b/c they are getting used to the cold Michigan weather" excuse next year after they start the regular season.
"Cale Iorg is going to be a superstar," Dombrowski said, "and real soon."
Cale Iorg is going to be a stud at SS.
Inge should not be the everyday anything..The guy can not hit good enough to be a starter at any position.Leroy Hoard said:Inge will be the every day 3rd baseman & Carlos will be the left fielder, at least that's the story for now.IngeI was warned about this catcher from a friend of mine who went to the entire Cleveland series, apparently passed balls are a common occurrence. I'd really like to know what they have planned for us behind the dish next year...
Doctor D,Are we going to keep going with this thread for the offseason stuff or do you anticipate starting a new one? I figure if we keep this one going you will at least be able to continue making shameless bumps like this when things you predicted come to fruition."Cale Iorg is going to be a superstar," Dombrowski said, "and real soon."Cale Iorg is going to be a stud at SS.
This guy knows stuff.hary said:The Detroit Tigers are a professional baseball team based in Detroit, Michigan, USA. The Tigers are a member of the Central Division of Major League Baseball's American League. From 2000 to the present, the Tigers have played in Comerica Park.________________________________________________________________________________
His glove work at 3B makes up for the lack of a bat imho, at least on this team. If there's one thing this team needs is better defense, just look at Tampa 2007 vs. 2008 to see how great of a difference a quality defense means...and this pitching staff needs all the help behind them they can get.Inge should not be the everyday anything..The guy can not hit good enough to be a starter at any position.Leroy Hoard said:Inge will be the every day 3rd baseman & Carlos will be the left fielder, at least that's the story for now.IngeI was warned about this catcher from a friend of mine who went to the entire Cleveland series, apparently passed balls are a common occurrence. I'd really like to know what they have planned for us behind the dish next year...
At Leylands age a one year deal is more than enough.I am sure many of you may have already read Albom's article on Leyland's status but I am going to post it anyway for those who have not. Looks like DD wants Leyland to put up or shut up next year, which is good. Some interesting comments from Leyland on the firing of Hernandez and Jones, including a shot at Verlander.Leyland wants more time, but he'll have to earn itBy MITCH ALBOM • FREE PRESS COLUMNIST • September 30, 2008Jim Leyland wanted a vote of confidence. He didn’t get it. He had a talk with his boss, Dave Dombrowski, but when it was done, Leyland had the same one-year left on his contract that he had when it started. After Monday’s loss in rainy Chicago, cementing a last-place, 74-88 finish, Leyland returned to Detroit, packed up and drove home to Pittsburgh.As the highway rolled past, he thought about what went wrong this year. And Tuesday afternoon, when we spoke for a radio interview, he revealed, for the first time, that his Tigers’ long-term future was up in the air.“I have not been extended, and I’m not gonna be extended,” Leyland said. “Dave and I have had a conversation. There was some sense of an offer that I did not accept. ...“I want to manage the Tigers. I have every intention of managing the Tigers. I’m disappointed that I did not get an extension but I understand — well, maybe I don’t understand.”I don’t understand, either. Unless Dombrowski and Mike Ilitch want to send a message to Leyland that it’s win or leave. And maybe it is. On paper, they gave him the best team since he has been here. And it played worse than the previous two.Still, how much of that was Leyland’s fault?“I think we had a great year, I think we had a good year and then we had one disastrous year. … I’ll take my share of the blame for it. ... But you can put several people up on a dart board and if you threw a dart, you’d probably hit the right guy. ... We were all guilty.”A do-or-die season in ’09Leyland pulled no punches — but it was clear he was stung by the club’s refusal to extend him.“Our organization failed this year. … We were bad and we were unfortunate and we absolutely made no breaks and we caught no breaks. …“If you’re saying do I have any defense for this year, no, I don’t. But the overall picture, I think, it’s pretty fair on my part. But I’m a big boy. I think Dave has tough decisions to make. For whatever reason he chose to go this direction and I respect that. … “I think if I do a good job next year, I’ll be extended. If I don’t, I’ll be fired. “If I’d been on the last year of my contract this year, I’d have been fired instead of the coaches, because those guys were scapegoats for people not doing their jobs. …“I’m not gonna lie to anybody or beat around the bush. Chuck Hernandez and Jeff Jones basically were fired because the pitching was terrible. And people have to be accountable for this. I read one comment where Justin Verlander said, ‘Well, I was probably part of the reason.’ No, not probably. You were one of the reasons. “And I’m not picking on Justin Verlander, because he’s a horse. … But it’s not ‘probably.’ Let's all face up to the music here. We didn’t do the job, including me. At the head of the class. Did not do the job. Simple. There’s no ifs, buts and all that kind of stuff. I can’t stand that kind of stuff.”Ready with the penWithout an extension, Leyland could be a lame-duck manager. And hiring a quality pitching coach might be tough if the boss could be gone in a year.Still, Leyland clearly holds out hope. “I don’t need power. I don’t want to get paid when I’m not working. … I don’t want an option. I don’t want a buyout. I want a contact and I will try and earn another contract next year. If I do, fine, and if I don’t, they can make another selection. That’s just the way it is. ...”I asked if he would sign mid-season — or insist in exploring the market after it was done.“I would extend tomorrow. I would extend in June. I would extend in July. I would extend in August. I want to manage the Tigers. … And I think I deserve to manage the Tigers. But … I don’t want to be anywhere where I’m not wanted.”The Tigers would make a mistake letting him go. Think about the managers before him. This was a nutty season of injuries, underachievement, position switching and scrambled lineups. But Leyland voluntarily took more heat than his players did. I’d rather see him here long-term than some of them.I asked if Tuesday was the longest drive home he’d had in a while. He said a guy at a Hardees at a highway stop did ask him for an autograph.“So everything’s not for naught, I guess.”He managed a laugh. Here’s hoping he gets to manage a lot more than that.
Judging by recent photos, he'll be lucky to make it thru another year.At Leylands age a one year deal is more than enough.
I am a little put off by Leylands actions the last week. Leyland always preaches to handles thing in house, yet when he did not get an extension he was crying to the media. Plus he ripped Verlander after Verlander manned up and took some of the blame for the coaches getting fired.Leylands act is worn out in Detroit.Leroy Hoard said:Judging by recent photos, he'll be lucky to make it thru another year.Da Guru said:At Leylands age a one year deal is more than enough.
I think he will have a short leash next year, another bad April and it could be bye-bye for the skipper by summer.I am a little put off by Leylands actions the last week. Leyland always preaches to handles thing in house, yet when he did not get an extension he was crying to the media. Plus he ripped Verlander after Verlander manned up and took some of the blame for the coaches getting fired.Leylands act is worn out in Detroit.Leroy Hoard said:Judging by recent photos, he'll be lucky to make it thru another year.Da Guru said:At Leylands age a one year deal is more than enough.
Yep. 2006 notwithstanding, the team underachieved in 2007 and even more so in 2008. The team is going backwards under his leadership right now so unless he gets things turned around early in 2009, I think he will be shown the door. Jim keeps trying to say all the right things like "I am responsible, it's my fault...I'm not getting the job done." Great, you are taking accountability for the problems, but at some point you need to fix them. I thought it was interesting how he referred to the clubhouse dynamics -- pitchers were mad at the position players b/c of their poor defense and the position players were mad at the pitchers for not pitching well. No surprise there but I was surprised he even brought that up to the media.I think he will have a short leash next year, another bad April and it could be bye-bye for the skipper by summer.I am a little put off by Leylands actions the last week. Leyland always preaches to handles thing in house, yet when he did not get an extension he was crying to the media. Plus he ripped Verlander after Verlander manned up and took some of the blame for the coaches getting fired.Leylands act is worn out in Detroit.Leroy Hoard said:Judging by recent photos, he'll be lucky to make it thru another year.Da Guru said:At Leylands age a one year deal is more than enough.
Why don't you do it, I seem to have been bad luck.Doctor D,Are we going to keep going with this thread for the offseason stuff or do you anticipate starting a new one? I figure if we keep this one going you will at least be able to continue making shameless bumps like this when things you predicted come to fruition.
OK, we'll kill this thread and start a new one.Here is the new thread for everyone to begin posting in: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=432081Why don't you do it, I seem to have been bad luck.Doctor D,
Are we going to keep going with this thread for the offseason stuff or do you anticipate starting a new one? I figure if we keep this one going you will at least be able to continue making shameless bumps like this when things you predicted come to fruition.