****OFFICIAL 2009 Off Season Washington Redskins Thread**** (1 Viewer)

[Sidewinder16]

Here's a pic of big Mike Williams. Dude doesn't look nearly as bad as I thought he would. He carries that 410 lbs pretty well.

http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/30/thursd...hots/#continued

I was expecting him to look like a fat slob with all the talk going around about his weight. Although the comments about how huge of a human being he is really comes home when you compare his picture with the one of Chris Samuels below it. Pretty sure Samuels could stand behind Williams and you wouldn't even know he was there.

 

[dgreen]

Here's a pic of big Mike Williams. Dude doesn't look nearly as bad as I thought he would. He carries that 410 lbs pretty well.

http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/30/thursd...hots/#continued

The camera subtracts 100 pounds.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Rich Tandler is twittering from mini-camp. FWIW, he says Orakpo got to work on the D-line some and had "very impressive speed and quickness" (not sure that should be too surprising). He also says "Colt looked very sharp especially on deep throws at #Skins practice (and I'm not a cult member)"

 

[T Bell]

BTW, Hackett could be a nice signing for them. He's got the skills and he knows the offense, he just has trouble staying healthy.

 

[Sebowski]

Blache has an interview on redskins.com (as does JC, CP, Hall, Orakpo, Zorn, and Al).

Love Blache. Two classics from the interview:

Reporter mentioned that there is a lot of talent on the D now. Blache: "…talent alone is nothing. You know, the prisons are full of talent, the rehab centers are full of talent..." haha

When asked how he thinks they'll do:

"We'll have to wait and see. Dion Warrick is getting sued from pretending she can predict the future. Ms. Cleo is out of the country. I'm not getting in that business." (might have taken some paraphrasing liberties with that one)

 

[fatness]

Here's a pic of big Mike Williams. Dude doesn't look nearly as bad as I thought he would. He carries that 410 lbs pretty well.

http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/30/thursd...hots/#continued

Um, wait a minute. Compare his picture to Chris Samuels picture.Williams

Samuels

 

[fatness]

BTW, Hackett could be a nice signing for them. He's got the skills and he knows the offense, he just has trouble staying healthy.

Bringing both Hackett and Kelly Washington in is a good idea.

 

[buster c]

open letter

An Open Letter to Dan Snyder and The Skins Ticket OfficePosted by: rskinsfan10 on Friday, May 1st, 2009 The following is a letter written by hR’s own Keino, addressed to the Skins Ticket Office and Dan Snyder himself. There is some concern within the hR community that this letter will not be read and just shoved aside by some secretary that is actually in place to do just that sort of thing. While we don’t claim to be the biggest Skins site out there, we do know that we get our fair share of hits, so it seems fitting that we post said letter here. I only wish I could take credit for it’s brilliance….. Mr. Jason Friedman, Vice PresidentWashington Redskins1600 FedEx WayLandover, Maryland 20785AndDaniel M. Snyder, Owner and ChairmanWashington Redskins21300 Redskins Park DriveAshburn, Virginia 20147Dear Sirs:My father and I are in receipt of your letter dated March 23, 2009 in which you are offering to extend our Premium Seating contracts. We reject your offer and will not be extending, renewing or otherwise purchasing season tickets anytime in the near future. This letter is being written to spell out exactly what has led to our decision.Before I delve into our reasons, I think you should understand the type of fans who are withdrawing their financial support of the football team they love. Both my father and I are lifetime fans of the Washington Redskins. We bleed Burgundy and Gold. To put into perspective what “lifetime” entails, my father, an African American man, was a fan of this team when George Preston Marshall was the owner. I hope I don’t have to explain to you the significance of the previous sentence. We are both accurately described as die-hards. I no longer live in the D.C. area, but in Tampa, Florida and yet I sacrifice time with my children and money to fly home and support the team I’ve loved since my own childhood.The decision to withdraw our financial support of this team can be summed up in two words: gross incompetence. This is not some knee-jerk reaction. We have watched these front-office decision makers for a decade continually make poor decisions while evidencing no clear plan or direction. We have watched a proud franchise that conducted business properly become a franchise that is more concerned with its public relations spin machine to combat any negative reporting that may contain analysis grounded in fact than it is with fielding a consistent winner. We have watched your decision makers pour dollar after dollar into marketing its big name signees while fielding one of the smallest scouting departments in the NFC.In short, this decision of ours has come about because of the way the owner of the team refuses to hire a competent personnel man as a general manager and insisting that the team is close to contending. The continued insistence that the current modus operandi works, while the facts have overwhelmingly indicated otherwise is vexing to any fan that knows that the great football teams are built in the trenches. What team puts its head personnel man on a two times per week, two hour radio show? What team has its two top decision makers giving in-depth radio interviews about the draft preparation process the night before the draft? What team only spends three weeks on draft preparation and publicly admits it? What team hires an Offensive Coordinator before having a Head Coach in place and then wonders why none of the potential candidates want the job? I have heard it said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. We will no longer be party to this insanity in any financial way. Jersey sales do not win Superbowls gentlemen, talent does. To acquire talent, teams must be proficient in evaluating talent.For the foreseeable future, my father and I will be withdrawing all financial support of the Washington Redskins, beyond our contractual obligation. We have reached the conclusion that despite protestations to the contrary, this owner does not really care about fielding a consistent winner. That the Redskins belt buckle and lifetime fan mantra is merely another marketing gimmick and that ultimately the only thing that will motivate this team to make meaningful changes in its front office culture is the loss of the almighty dollar. You have lost ours. We will not purchase your food, we will not purchase your officially licensed merchandise, and we will not purchase anything that will contribute to the wealth of the front office beyond your proportional share of the DirecTV Sunday Ticket revenue. You see, not even the dysfunctional way this franchise is being run can dampen the love we have for this team, but you must get the message that the status quo is unacceptable to us. I will no longer sacrifice the time and energy to watch you field an inferior product.Sincerely,Me

 

[buster c]

I keep seeing Foote's name brought up, but can he play SAM? He played inside with the Steelers, no?

Also, I'm glad they didn't throw a lot of money at Hill.

I don't see him as a SAM, more of a Willy, but I dont have the resources to scout schoolboy sports.Now, you're NEXT on Sports Call.

- thanks for adding that to my Birthday Morning of Hilarity!!!"Arby's - You've gotta try the Jamocha!"

I LOVE me some Classic Ken Beatrice!!!

I almost feel guilty laughing about it, but when the Sports Reports parody him, I pretty much have to stop the car and pull over...

Kenny, we laugh because we love you!

Clue: Fool's Gold!

"I don't eat the curly fries as my heart would explode, but I hear they're very good"Fool

the Cosby kid?

 

[Sebowski]

http://realredskins.com/2009/05/minicamp-quick-hits.html

Friday, May 01, 2009

Minicamp quick hits

A few observations from today's Redskins minicamp:

* As most of you know, I'm not much of a Colt Brennan guy but I have to say that I was impressed during seven-on-seven and 11-on-11 drills. He fired a few intermediate passes over the middle with great accuracy and authority and showed good touch on deep passes. I'm not ready to anoint him as a future star or anything but after today I'll be a lot less surprised if it does happen.

* Brian Orakpo worked with the linebackers earlier in the session and with the defensive line later on. In the 11-on-11 he displayed a quick first move and good speed around the edge from a three-point stance. I'm a bit concerned about throwing too much at him with the two positions.

* D. J. Hackett, the former Seahawk and Panther that the Redskins tried to sign as a free agent last year, was in for a non-roster tryout. He looked sharp, although he did have the advantage of having a good base of knowledge of Zorn's offense.

* I had a good chat with Zorn with just a couple of other reporters after the main media session had broken up. He walked us through the process of sorting out the tryout players. "First we identify the ones who are going to hurt themselves or hurt someone else. They're gone today," he said, smiling. "We didn't have any of those," he added.

In his hand was a laminated version of the tryout roster that had been given to us. "It's kind of hard to sort them out when they just got here," Zorn said.

He said that everyone probably would stick around until after the second session on Saturday and then they will probably thin some out before Sunday's single practice.

* And, don't worry, the swine flu is under control at Redskins Park. The fist bump has replaced the handshake as the official greeting and hand sanitizers are all over the place.

* If Phillip Daniels' knee holds out, he could contribute this year. He is in terrific shape. When I first glanced at him up close I thought he was wearing shells but, no, his upper arms are just that big.

Word is he looks even better than Taylor Jacobs.

 

[fatness]

Early Warning On Redskins' Offensive Line

It was only the first 11-on-11 session of the first day of the Washington Redskins' minicamp, with not a single player in full pads, but a glance at the names across the backs of the first-string offensive line could not have bolstered Jason Campbell's confidence after a tumultuous offseason:

Clark, Dockery, Rabach, Rinehart, Heyer.

With Pro Bowl tackle Chris Samuels and longtime guard Randy Thomas still limited in their returns from major surgery, expect these five players to be shuffled over and over before training camp. But as a snapshot, the lineup projected the lack of depth and alternatives within an aging and injury-prone starting group that failed to run- or pass-block sufficiently during a 2-6 finish to last season.

"We've got to find a diamond or two in the rough," said running back Clinton Portis, who has voiced his desire for an improved line in the past. "I'm not the GM, I'm not the owner. I'm not the head coach. I talk to 'em, but my opinion . . . you voice your opinion."

Three veteran linemen are getting tryouts at the three-day camp, and one of them, Jeremy Bridges, 29, impressed coaches with his footwork and could find himself with a contract and a shot at right tackle next week.

"That position, right now, you hate to say it's up for grabs, because it looks like we don't know what we're doing," Zorn said.

One NFL executive said: "If signing a guy like [Williams] isn't a sign of desperation, I don't know what is. I'm not sure what they're doing on the offensive line."

 

[fatness]

Kelly Recovering from Microfracture Surgery

Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly said he plans to be fully cleared to participate in June's organized team activities and was relieved that his latest knee surgery was not as extensive as first thought. Kelly, who had a history of knee issues in college and as a rookie last year, underwent microfracture surgery in February, with doctors having to do less repair work than they'd anticipated.

"They thought they were going to have to microfracture the whole thing," Kelly said. "But when they went in they found it had healed up a lot more than they thought, so they just had to microfracture a little part. And I actually had a little bone that they shaved down a little bit, and that really helped out a lot of the stuff. When they went and did that and finally fixed it instead of just trying to clean it up, like the first time, it helped out a whole lot."

I don't think this guy will ever be healthy enough to play regularly.

 

[southeastjerome]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...n-to-cance.html

"With the swine flu going around, this water could have some swine flu in it, then all of us gonna be dead," Portis said during a group interview session with reporters on the field as it rained. "You should cancel minicamp, especially in bad weather. Right now in Mexico, they canceled all sporting events. They need to do that in the U.S. ... This is a scary, dangerous situation."

 

[fatness]

Haynesworth

In the Redskins' recent schemes (under defensive coordinator Greg Blache and his predecessor, Gregg Williams), defensive tackles for the most part have been supposed to occupy blockers in an effort to help linebackers make big plays. Having linemen fill the role of "space eaters" helped Washington to four top-10 finishes defensively in the last five seasons.

Blache, however, is expected to change his approach with the defensive line because "I'm no space eater," said Pro Bowl defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, who signed with the team in February. "If I see the ball, I'm going to go after it. All that stuff about maintaining your gaps, I mean, yeah, I can do that, but I have to play the way I feel comfortable. I'm out there to make plays. That's always the way I've been, and that's what I'm coming here to do."

Haynesworth expressed optimism about his early conversations with Blache, and "I think he really wants me to be comfortable," Haynesworth said. "The things we did in Tennessee, that's really the way I like to play. Coach Blache is open to doing some different things, so you definitely feel good about that. But the stuff they've always done, there's still going to be a lot of that. I just know from talking to [some of Washington's other defensive linemen], they've told me they'd definitely like to go out there and make more plays."

 

[fatness]

Dr. Diego Morales Speaks Up

Running Clinton Portis, who often expresses his disdain for minicamp, training camp and preseason games, was not happy about being on the field in the rain, especially given the threat of swine flu.

"With the swine flu going around, this water could have some swine flu in it, then all of us gonna be dead," Portis said during a group interview session with reporters on the field as it rained.

edited to add: southeastjerome just posted the same thing 4 minutes before this post.

 

[fatness]

about Haynesworth

Zorn said Haynesworth's value won't be obvious on every snap because of his ability to draw double teams and open lanes for other players.

"We looked at a lot of video, and for our system he's going to do the same things for us as he did for them," Zorn said. "He's going to get into the backfield, and he's going to push on double teams. When he creates that much of a problem, you have to be on him with a couple of guys and that hopefully frees up other guys to make plays.

"There are going to be times when people will say, 'Where's Albert? Why isn't he doing this?' But he's doing what we're asking him to do."

 

[Bankerguy]

Dr. Diego Morales Speaks Up

Running Clinton Portis, who often expresses his disdain for minicamp, training camp and preseason games, was not happy about being on the field in the rain, especially given the threat of swine flu.

"With the swine flu going around, this water could have some swine flu in it, then all of us gonna be dead," Portis said during a group interview session with reporters on the field as it rained.

Dude is straight up funny.

 

[buster c]

Kelly Recovering from Microfracture Surgery

Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly said he plans to be fully cleared to participate in June's organized team activities and was relieved that his latest knee surgery was not as extensive as first thought. Kelly, who had a history of knee issues in college and as a rookie last year, underwent microfracture surgery in February, with doctors having to do less repair work than they'd anticipated.

"They thought they were going to have to microfracture the whole thing," Kelly said. "But when they went in they found it had healed up a lot more than they thought, so they just had to microfracture a little part. And I actually had a little bone that they shaved down a little bit, and that really helped out a lot of the stuff. When they went and did that and finally fixed it instead of just trying to clean it up, like the first time, it helped out a whole lot."

I don't think this guy will ever be healthy enough to play regularly.

microFRACTURE surgery forget this guy ever being productive

 

[T Bell]

Kelly Recovering from Microfracture Surgery

Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly said he plans to be fully cleared to participate in June's organized team activities and was relieved that his latest knee surgery was not as extensive as first thought. Kelly, who had a history of knee issues in college and as a rookie last year, underwent microfracture surgery in February, with doctors having to do less repair work than they'd anticipated.

"They thought they were going to have to microfracture the whole thing," Kelly said. "But when they went in they found it had healed up a lot more than they thought, so they just had to microfracture a little part. And I actually had a little bone that they shaved down a little bit, and that really helped out a lot of the stuff. When they went and did that and finally fixed it instead of just trying to clean it up, like the first time, it helped out a whole lot."

I don't think this guy will ever be healthy enough to play regularly.

microFRACTURE surgery forget this guy ever being productive

Any time that surgery is mentioned I start mentally writing off peoples' careers. It's a shame if we're right because Kelly is otherwise a very good looking WR prospect.

 

[fatness]

JLC

Over the first two days of minicamp, veteran wide receiver Kelly Washington has made some nice catches and could be a player the Redskins sign at some point. Receiver D.J. Hackett, like Washington a non-roster invitee to camp, also has years of NFL experience. With the Redskins short on veteran wide receivers now because of injuries, this duo is getting lots of reps with the first team.

Washington's special teams ability makes him attractive; Hackett knows Coach Jim Zorn well from their time together in Seattle and has a solid grasp of the system, which is particularly important with so many college receivers in camp. "Hackett is showing his experience in this offense," said Zorn, who is comfortable moving him to different receiving positions.

Both players are unrestricted free agents and the Redskins are not likely to dangle more than one-year veteran minimum contracts at this point. Washington said he has invitations to attend upcoming minicamps with other clubs, and is comfortable continuing to show his ability through that process if he does not get signed quickly here.

"It's just a good opportunity for me to come in and show my skills as a veteran in the league," Washington said, "and keep getting in better shape, because there are other teams in the league that are interested. So it's good to work through the team drills and just get evaluated."

Washington has engaged in a few spirited exchanges with the defensive backs and said that if signed he would look forward to playing special teams, as he has in the past. "I've been a great player on special teams the past couple of years and that's something I love to do," he said.

more JLC

The Redskins have agreed to terms on a deal with veteran offensive lineman Jeremy Bridges, Coach Jim Zorn said, and will sign him tonight, pending the results of a physical. Zorn also said that the team could sign either Kelly Washington or D.J. Hackett, veteran wide receivers who were brought in for tryouts.

Bridges has started in the past; his footwork was particularly impressive and the team hopes he could make a push at the unsettled starting right tackle spot.

I think they'll sign either Washington or Hackett. Which one depends more on whether they want a WR on the field more (which favors Hackett due to his familiarity with the system) or a special teams guy (where it looks like Washington has the edge).

 

[fatness]

An article about Lorenzo Alexander which is worth reading. There's some insight on why the Redskins didn't offer Demetric Evans a contract, on what the defense will be doing this year, and lots on Alexander. Good article.

 

[fatness]

It's the time of the year for "hey, let's try this guy at this position and see what happens."

When Washington drafted Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo last weekend, coach Jim Zorn said he might play strongside linebacker, the team's biggest weakness. It didn't take long for the Redskins to decide that's where the rookie might help them the most.

"Brian will be a linebacker mostly on first and second downs. And when he's a defensive end, it will mostly be on third downs," Zorn said Saturday.

Phillip Daniels, 36, is the front-runner to start at left end, where he started from 2004 to 2007 before missing last season with two torn knee ligaments. Orakpo would line up behind him on running downs. Orakpo would move to end on passing downs, with Daniels vying for playing time with Cornelius Griffin at tackle.

Jon Jansen, the Redskins' starting right tackle most of the past 10 seasons, received some time at center in relief of Casey Rabach.

Jansen struggled during a stint at guard in practice after he was benched for Stephon Heyer in September. But at 33 and understanding that he might be a backup this season, Jansen is more accommodating to the move.

"I'm a man of many talents," Jansen said. "We just want to take a look at it and see if I can play more than one position. I think it went real well. I had a bit of an introduction to it this time last year and a little bit more this time."

Last year's backup center, Justin Geisinger, signed with Carolina, and veteran guard Pete Kendall, who had started at center earlier in his career, has not signed and is unlikely to return. Young lineman Will Montgomery has tried snapping, too, but if Jansen can master the skill, his chances of sticking around and remaining active for each game will increase.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I think they'll sign either Washington or Hackett. Which one depends more on whether they want a WR on the field more (which favors Hackett due to his familiarity with the system) or a special teams guy (where it looks like Washington has the edge).

Contracts have been extended to both WRs. Hackett could sign today.

The Redskins have offered contracts to veteran free agent wide receivers Kelley Washington and D.J. Hackett, who participated in minicamp this weekend, a league source said. Washington is expected to decide on the Redskins' offer after visiting the Baltimore Ravens this week. Hackett was expected to take a physical this afternoon and planned to sign with the team today, a league source said.

 

[Sidewinder16]

A couple mini-camp wrap up notes from JLC:

First-round draft pick Brian Orakpo was effective in his first pro work this weekend, coaches said. Linebackers Coach Kirk Olivadotti was impressed with how Orakpo, a college defensive end, started to fit in at strong side linebacker, Zorn said.

Linebacker Cody Glenn, a fifth-round pick, was added to the injured list after pulling his hamstring Saturday, but he should be fine for training camp, Zorn said.

Veteran Jon Jansen, in an uphill fight for a starting spot at right tackle, continued to take work at guard and at center through mini-camp. The team lacks a proven back-up center.

 

[fatness]

The Redskins have offered contracts to veteran free agent wide receivers Kelley Washington and D.J. Hackett, who participated in minicamp this weekend, a league source said. Washington is expected to decide on the Redskins' offer after visiting the Baltimore Ravens this week. Hackett was expected to take a physical this afternoon and planned to sign with the team today, a league source said.

This is good news. They both may make the team.

 

[T Bell]

The Redskins have offered contracts to veteran free agent wide receivers Kelley Washington and D.J. Hackett, who participated in minicamp this weekend, a league source said. Washington is expected to decide on the Redskins' offer after visiting the Baltimore Ravens this week. Hackett was expected to take a physical this afternoon and planned to sign with the team today, a league source said.

This is good news. They both may make the team.

Bad news for James Thrash given that Washington may actually be useful from time to time lining up as a WR.

 

[Sebowski]

I'd like to see Thrash eventually end up on the staff. I think he'd make a great WR coach.

 

[buster c]

An article about Lorenzo Alexander which is worth reading. There's some insight on why the Redskins didn't offer Demetric Evans a contract, on what the defense will be doing this year, and lots on Alexander. Good article.

yeah, I read this article and was about why Evans wasn't even offered a contract. a solid player, flexible in that he can play DE & DT, locker room leader, not making major money...yet the team said they didn't sign him because of the cap?

Many in the organization considered Evans to be Washington's most valuable defensive lineman last season, citing his productivity as a run-stuffing end on first and second downs and an effective pass rusher on third downs, when he would move to an interior position.

Despite Evans's strong season, the Redskins made no attempt to re-sign him because "it was just a decision we had to make cap-wise," Blache said. It was "a decision we had to make personnel-wise and we made it. Demetric is a fine player and he did a lot for the Redskins. But Lorenzo is, very much, a similar person."

you can't have too many of these guys. look, I'm a Lo Alexander guy. love him. but this is yet another example of the team ignoring the importance of quality, inexpensive depth. they should sign Pete Kendall for exactly these reasons for the OL

 

[Bizkiteer]

An article about Lorenzo Alexander which is worth reading. There's some insight on why the Redskins didn't offer Demetric Evans a contract, on what the defense will be doing this year, and lots on Alexander. Good article.

yeah, I read this article and was about why Evans wasn't even offered a contract. a solid player, flexible in that he can play DE & DT, locker room leader, not making major money...yet the team said they didn't sign him because of the cap?

Many in the organization considered Evans to be Washington's most valuable defensive lineman last season, citing his productivity as a run-stuffing end on first and second downs and an effective pass rusher on third downs, when he would move to an interior position.

Despite Evans's strong season, the Redskins made no attempt to re-sign him because "it was just a decision we had to make cap-wise," Blache said. It was "a decision we had to make personnel-wise and we made it. Demetric is a fine player and he did a lot for the Redskins. But Lorenzo is, very much, a similar person."

you can't have too many of these guys. look, I'm a Lo Alexander guy. love him. but this is yet another example of the team ignoring the importance of quality, inexpensive depth. they should sign Pete Kendall for exactly these reasons for the OL

The difference is that Evans wanted more money than the 'Skins were willing to pay. Though it's nice to have these kind of guys, their spots are filled much easier. I would say that for once our FO made the right choice to not overpay to keep that type of player.

 

[T Bell]

An article about Lorenzo Alexander which is worth reading. There's some insight on why the Redskins didn't offer Demetric Evans a contract, on what the defense will be doing this year, and lots on Alexander. Good article.

yeah, I read this article and was about why Evans wasn't even offered a contract. a solid player, flexible in that he can play DE & DT, locker room leader, not making major money...yet the team said they didn't sign him because of the cap?

Many in the organization considered Evans to be Washington's most valuable defensive lineman last season, citing his productivity as a run-stuffing end on first and second downs and an effective pass rusher on third downs, when he would move to an interior position.

Despite Evans's strong season, the Redskins made no attempt to re-sign him because "it was just a decision we had to make cap-wise," Blache said. It was "a decision we had to make personnel-wise and we made it. Demetric is a fine player and he did a lot for the Redskins. But Lorenzo is, very much, a similar person."

you can't have too many of these guys. look, I'm a Lo Alexander guy. love him. but this is yet another example of the team ignoring the importance of quality, inexpensive depth. they should sign Pete Kendall for exactly these reasons for the OL

The difference is that Evans wanted more money than the 'Skins were willing to pay. Though it's nice to have these kind of guys, their spots are filled much easier. I would say that for once our FO made the right choice to not overpay to keep that type of player.

Evans was particularly valuable last year because Daniels was out. Daniels gets short shrift from a lot of people, but the guy is a very useful DL to have and is a bull on the d-line. The team has two guys in Alexander and Daniels who can do what Evans does, and for less money. Evans had what for him was a breakout season and he wanted to get paid like a starting DE. The Redskins clearly didn't want to do that and didn't feel they needed to. That's pretty much the story. I always liked Evans and hope he does well, but I don't hold any illusions about how indispensable he was.

 

[buster c]

2 years for $3.8m - that's overpaying?

instead, we've got Daniels (who I love) and Wynn (who is finished). you can argue that's better depth (2 for 1), but think the A-move is to lock up a younger guy for a little more and you'll get better production over time.

but this is what happens when you overpay "others" (fat albert) and let the loyal leaders (Evans) get paid by someone else:

just like antonio pierce for michael barrow

just like ryan clark for adam archuletta

anybody else noticing a theme here?

PS - I tried to reply to Bell's post, but got this error:

THE FOLLOWING ERROR(S) WERE FOUND

You have posted more than the allowed number of quoted blocks of text

anyone else get this?

 

[fatness]

An article about Lorenzo Alexander which is worth reading. There's some insight on why the Redskins didn't offer Demetric Evans a contract, on what the defense will be doing this year, and lots on Alexander. Good article.

yeah, I read this article and was about why Evans wasn't even offered a contract. a solid player, flexible in that he can play DE & DT, locker room leader, not making major money...yet the team said they didn't sign him because of the cap?

What I got from the article is that they didn't offer Evans a contract because Alexander is as good as he is, and more cap friendly.

 

[Sebowski]

2 years for $3.8m - that's overpaying? instead, we've got Daniels (who I love) and Wynn (who is finished). you can argue that's better depth (2 for 1), but think the A-move is to lock up a younger guy for a little more and you'll get better production over time. but this is what happens when you overpay "others" (fat albert) and let the loyal leaders (Evans) get paid by someone else: just like antonio pierce for michael barrowjust like ryan clark for adam archulettaanybody else noticing a theme here?PS - I tried to reply to Bell's post, but got this error:THE FOLLOWING ERROR(S) WERE FOUNDYou have posted more than the allowed number of quoted blocks of textanyone else get this?

Almost 2mil a year is overpaying for a guy who isn't going to start. Especially when the coaching staff believes Alexander can step right in without missing a beat. Pierce left because he is a ####. He had a great offer and took off to a rival for a couple extra bucks. We had just extended Arrington and brought in Washington. He knew we couldn't put that much many in the LBs. He should have taken the deal here after being groomed from being an UDFA. Lemar Marshal wasn't even a step down his first year taking over. It was after that that the MLB position got in trouble. Now I wouldn't trade Fletcher for his whiny ### anyway, so I think it was for the best. You must have messed with his post when quoting it. Happens to me sometimes. I try to delete a certain part of the post I'm quoting and delete a necessary quote tag accidently.

 

[Marvelous]

An article about Lorenzo Alexander which is worth reading. There's some insight on why the Redskins didn't offer Demetric Evans a contract, on what the defense will be doing this year, and lots on Alexander. Good article.

yeah, I read this article and was about why Evans wasn't even offered a contract. a solid player, flexible in that he can play DE & DT, locker room leader, not making major money...yet the team said they didn't sign him because of the cap?

Many in the organization considered Evans to be Washington's most valuable defensive lineman last season, citing his productivity as a run-stuffing end on first and second downs and an effective pass rusher on third downs, when he would move to an interior position.

Despite Evans's strong season, the Redskins made no attempt to re-sign him because "it was just a decision we had to make cap-wise," Blache said. It was "a decision we had to make personnel-wise and we made it. Demetric is a fine player and he did a lot for the Redskins. But Lorenzo is, very much, a similar person."

you can't have too many of these guys. look, I'm a Lo Alexander guy. love him. but this is yet another example of the team ignoring the importance of quality, inexpensive depth. they should sign Pete Kendall for exactly these reasons for the OL

This article did not make much sense on Demetric Evans. I thought I originally heard that he wasn't be best match for the Redskins since they don't need a DE to slide inside anymore since they signed Haysnesworth. But the article basically said they decided to go with Alexander and move him into Evans role. But this is risky since Evans had done it before and Alexancder has not.

Also, with Haynesworth, Griffin, Goldston, and Montgomery, how many DT snaps will there be for a DE moving inside on passing downs?

 

[Marvelous]

2 years for $3.8m - that's overpaying?

instead, we've got Daniels (who I love) and Wynn (who is finished). you can argue that's better depth (2 for 1), but think the A-move is to lock up a younger guy for a little more and you'll get better production over time.

but this is what happens when you overpay "others" (fat albert) and let the loyal leaders (Evans) get paid by someone else:

just like antonio pierce for michael barrow

just like ryan clark for adam archuletta

anybody else noticing a theme here?

PS - I tried to reply to Bell's post, but got this error:

THE FOLLOWING ERROR(S) WERE FOUND

You have posted more than the allowed number of quoted blocks of text

anyone else get this?

I get the error too often. You have to go through the original post and delete some of the embedded quotes. And if your open & close quote don't match up, you get another error.

 

[T Bell]

2 years for $3.8m - that's overpaying?

instead, we've got Daniels (who I love) and Wynn (who is finished). you can argue that's better depth (2 for 1), but think the A-move is to lock up a younger guy for a little more and you'll get better production over time.

but this is what happens when you overpay "others" (fat albert) and let the loyal leaders (Evans) get paid by someone else:

just like antonio pierce for michael barrow

just like ryan clark for adam archuletta

anybody else noticing a theme here?

PS - I tried to reply to Bell's post, but got this error:

THE FOLLOWING ERROR(S) WERE FOUND

You have posted more than the allowed number of quoted blocks of text

anyone else get this?

I get the error too often. You have to go through the original post and delete some of the embedded quotes. And if your open & close quote don't match up, you get another error.

The board recently changed the setup to reduce the number of embedded quotes you can have in your posts, probably to reduce the amount of text per post. In truth, there were times when prior posts were needlessly and repeatedly posted, but it's also a hinderance in some productive exchanges where you need to go back five, or six or more posts to fully understand the context.

 

[Marvelous]

From PFT:

Redskins Reel In Roydell WilliamsPosted by Mike Florio on May 4, 2009, 5:28 p.m. Count the Washington Redskins as another franchise welcoming new players and simultaneously giving others a pointy shoe to the posterior.The Redskins announced earlier today that they have signed receivers Trent Shelton and Roydell Williams.The ‘Skins also announced that they’ve released tight end Devin Frischknecht, wide receiver John Halman, defensive tackle Brigham Harwell, linebacker Ronnie Palmer, and offensive lineman Isaiah Ross.But the big name is Williams.He had a solid season in 2007 with the Titans, but broke an ankle during practice prior to the team’s playoff loss. By June, Williams still was struggling to make it back. He started training camp on the PUP list, received clearance to practice in August, and then was dumped from the roster.If healthy, Williams can be effective. He caught 55 passes for 719 yards in 2007, including a five-catch, 124-yard game at Houston on October 21.

And offereing Hackett and Washington contract, maybe the Redskins aren't that happy with Thomas and Kelley.

 

[Bizkiteer]

And offereing Hackett and Washington contract, maybe the Redskins are that happy with Thomas and Kelley.

I think the important part or word was "offering." Hackett is on hold because he had some other obligation and the sense I took from the report is that the offer might be extended after...might not. As for Kelly Washington, he's now a participant in the Ravens mini camp...if they offer him a deal, then he gets to decide between BAL or WAS. The 'Skins signing Roydell makes me think that the dynamic duo are not betting on getting one or both of them. Just a hunch...

 

[T Bell]

And offereing Hackett and Washington contract, maybe the Redskins are that happy with Thomas and Kelley.

I think the important part or word was "offering." Hackett is on hold because he had some other obligation and the sense I took from the report is that the offer might be extended after...might not. As for Kelly Washington, he's now a participant in the Ravens mini camp...if they offer him a deal, then he gets to decide between BAL or WAS. The 'Skins signing Roydell makes me think that the dynamic duo are not betting on getting one or both of them. Just a hunch...

These are all minimum deals, and right now they've got three WR's (Moss, Thomas, Kelly) who are unable to practice. They've also needed a 5th WR for some time. I don't see anything here other than keeping their options open.

 

[Marvelous]

And offereing Hackett and Washington contract, maybe the Redskins are that happy with Thomas and Kelley.

I think the important part or word was "offering." Hackett is on hold because he had some other obligation and the sense I took from the report is that the offer might be extended after...might not. As for Kelly Washington, he's now a participant in the Ravens mini camp...if they offer him a deal, then he gets to decide between BAL or WAS. The 'Skins signing Roydell makes me think that the dynamic duo are not betting on getting one or both of them. Just a hunch...

These are all minimum deals, and right now they've got three WR's (Moss, Thomas, Kelly) who are unable to practice. They've also needed a 5th WR for some time. I don't see anything here other than keeping their options open.

All three are veteran players looking for work. I think the Redskins are looking to see if any of these players can fill in as a wr #3. Most teams look for wr #5 and special team players through low round draft picks and UDFA and see if they can find a diamond in the rough that can grow into a bigger role. So these offers look like more than just roster filler to me.Mike and Roydell Williams both look more like reclamation projects. If they work out great, and if not, they only invested a preseason roster spot.

 

[T Bell]

And offereing Hackett and Washington contract, maybe the Redskins are that happy with Thomas and Kelley.

I think the important part or word was "offering." Hackett is on hold because he had some other obligation and the sense I took from the report is that the offer might be extended after...might not. As for Kelly Washington, he's now a participant in the Ravens mini camp...if they offer him a deal, then he gets to decide between BAL or WAS. The 'Skins signing Roydell makes me think that the dynamic duo are not betting on getting one or both of them. Just a hunch...

These are all minimum deals, and right now they've got three WR's (Moss, Thomas, Kelly) who are unable to practice. They've also needed a 5th WR for some time. I don't see anything here other than keeping their options open.

All three are veteran players looking for work. I think the Redskins are looking to see if any of these players can fill in as a wr #3. Most teams look for wr #5 and special team players through low round draft picks and UDFA and see if they can find a diamond in the rough that can grow into a bigger role. So these offers look like more than just roster filler to me.Mike and Roydell Williams both look more like reclamation projects. If they work out great, and if not, they only invested a preseason roster spot.

We're either saying the same thing or quibbling over semantics. These guys are fliers. One thing I would point out, BTW, is that this offense lacks an established, large WR which of course is what the WCO tends to favor over the smaller, quicker veteran guys that we have. When I've mentioned a QB5, I don't literally mean that that person is the 5th in line to take the field as a WR because this offense figures to use different packages. The main injury concern is with Kelly who BTW is also the largest WR on the roster. It's not clear right now whether he'll ever be able to play for them on any consistent basis, or maybe at all.

 

[fatness]

Interesting item from Rich Tandler's blog last Friday:

The best-looking receiver out there was Devin Thomas. He certainly seems to be in excellent shape and he's running sharp routes. It appears that, unlike last year, he "gets it".

Link

 

[fatness]

 

[Yamato]

I DVR'd that last summer. Portis is crazy.

 

[fatness]

No interest in JonesBy David Elfin on May 7, 2009 into Redskins 360A Redskins source said that has no interest in offensive tackle Levi Jones, who was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals on Wednesday.This news comes despite the Redskins' questions at right tackle, where underwhelming incumbents Stephon Heyer and Jon Jansen will face competition from Mike Williams, the just-under-400-pound former Buffalo Bills starter.

 

[Marvelous]

No interest in JonesBy David Elfin on May 7, 2009 into Redskins 360A Redskins source said that has no interest in offensive tackle Levi Jones, who was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals on Wednesday.This news comes despite the Redskins' questions at right tackle, where underwhelming incumbents Stephon Heyer and Jon Jansen will face competition from Mike Williams, the just-under-400-pound former Buffalo Bills starter.

My guess is Jones is too expensive. Nothing but the best that a veteran minimum contract will buy.

 

[Sidewinder16]

No interest in JonesBy David Elfin on May 7, 2009 into Redskins 360A Redskins source said that has no interest in offensive tackle Levi Jones, who was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals on Wednesday.This news comes despite the Redskins' questions at right tackle, where underwhelming incumbents Stephon Heyer and Jon Jansen will face competition from Mike Williams, the just-under-400-pound former Buffalo Bills starter.

My guess is Jones is too expensive. Nothing but the best that a veteran minimum contract will buy.

I may be in the minority here, but I'm fairly pleased with what they're doing at RT, all things considered.Having Heyer, Williams, Bridges and Jansen all competing for the starting job should only bring out the best in at least one of them. The potential ceilings for Heyer, Williams and Bridges seems pretty high from everything I've seen and heard. All three are terrific low-risk, high-reward projects.I'm glad Jansen is getting reps at G and C, too. Since he's extremely uncapfriendly (i.e., impossible) to cut, having him available as serviceable depth all the way across the line would maximize whatever is left of his on-field value.

 

[T Bell]

No interest in JonesBy David Elfin on May 7, 2009 into Redskins 360A Redskins source said that has no interest in offensive tackle Levi Jones, who was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals on Wednesday.This news comes despite the Redskins' questions at right tackle, where underwhelming incumbents Stephon Heyer and Jon Jansen will face competition from Mike Williams, the just-under-400-pound former Buffalo Bills starter.

My guess is Jones is too expensive. Nothing but the best that a veteran minimum contract will buy.

I may be in the minority here, but I'm fairly pleased with what they're doing at RT, all things considered.Having Heyer, Williams, Bridges and Jansen all competing for the starting job should only bring out the best in at least one of them. The potential ceilings for Heyer, Williams and Bridges seems pretty high from everything I've seen and heard. All three are terrific low-risk, high-reward projects.I'm glad Jansen is getting reps at G and C, too. Since he's extremely uncapfriendly (i.e., impossible) to cut, having him available as serviceable depth all the way across the line would maximize whatever is left of his on-field value.

 

[Harjiran]

Has anyone heard anything more about DJ Hackett or Kelly Washington possibly signing with the Skins?

 

[Harjiran]

I'm glad Jansen is getting reps at G and C, too. Since he's extremely uncapfriendly (i.e., impossible) to cut, having him available as serviceable depth all the way across the line would maximize whatever is left of his on-field value.

Jansen still excels at run blocking. I wonder if he could beat out Dockery at guard, if given the opportunity.