***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

[Bizkiteer]

I'm such a friggin' idiot.

If this is true, then you would fit right in with the coaching staff. Wanna be the next Head Coach?

 

[dgreen]

From the Washington Times from Zorn's PC today:

Yeah, Zorn....if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Is it me or has today not been nearly as bad as I anticipated? I expected a lot more "the sky is falling" than this...or maybe it's just that I'm numb to the whole thing and it all just seems the same now

Yeah, I expected more. I wonder if most people are just feeling bad for Zorn. It's hard to pile on a guy that doesn't seem to know what he's doing. And, since Snyder doesn't make himself available, there aren't many fireworks there.

 

[dgreen]

I'm such a friggin' idiot.

If this is true, then you would fit right in with the coaching staff. Wanna be the next Head Coach?

I'd run the wildcat with Haynesworth!

 

[Bizkiteer]

Feel for the Skins - I know the running game is a train wreck - just checking though - was Portis gimpy or just lousy offense? Read that Betts may lose the 3rd down job but should still be the main backup - anyone confirm this?

5 RB's on the roster now, so your guess is as good as anyone's at this point. Portis was QUE coming into the game, but looked to have enough giddy up during the game. His OL is sucking and he's getting hit behind the LOS or at the LOS on almost every play. Considering he comes out on 3rd downs...not great for FF wise. Betts is nothing special, but most likely would be the direct back up, if Portis was OUT. Probably start seeing Alridge come in on 3rd downs at some point though, if not spell'n CP. Again, it's only talk and my 8 year old probably has more insight into than the actual coaches do.

 

[buster c]

enter Grimm, exit ?

I'd be good with that. Looking at all the 1st time head coaches out there who are doing well leads me to think that's the move to make.

Here is the NFL retred list:

Jauron (buf)

Mangina (cle)

Belichick (NE)

Norv (SD)

Wade (Dal)

Coughlin (NYG)

Mora (sea)

only BB & TC stand out, although Mora and Mangina are still early into their 2nd stint.

the list of 1st-timers is lenghty, but so many are doing well. then again, everybody seems to be doing well, compared to us.

The key is ditching and replacing him with a guy who is not Joe Theismann (i.e. a solid GM). make a play for Martin Mayhew.

 

[Bizkiteer]

BTW - Tom Cruise looked good! Glad he could join and oversee the team warming up. It's probably because of him that S. Moss actually had a good game.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

BTW - Tom Cruise looked good! Glad he could join and oversee the team warming up. It's probably because of him that S. Moss actually had a good game.

The thetans came to play.

 

[buster c]

rant

this has become "must-see" material for us persecuted fans

 

[DCThunder]

Zorn is sort of like Hitler in the summer of 1944 when he'd get reports from his generals about Allied advances in Normandy. He'd deny that the advances had happened and then say that even if they were true, they were minor details that could be fixed, but the plan for the Thousand Year Reich was sound....

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Listening to the Lavar show via internet. JC coming up soon.

 

[fatness]

The key is ditching

That's necessary.

 

[fatness]

Late Sunday afternoon, as the Washington Redskins hurried to dress in the visitors' locker room at Ford Field after an embarrassing 19-14 loss to the Detroit Lions that ended the Lions' losing streak at 19 games, I approached Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, before he boarded the team bus to the airport.

As soon as we made eye contact, Cerrato said, "No comment." It was the first time in 20 years as a journalist someone declined to answer a question before I even had the opportunity to ask one.

Jason Reid

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Late Sunday afternoon, as the Washington Redskins hurried to dress in the visitors' locker room at Ford Field after an embarrassing 19-14 loss to the Detroit Lions that ended the Lions' losing streak at 19 games, I approached Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, before he boarded the team bus to the airport.

As soon as we made eye contact, Cerrato said, "No comment." It was the first time in 20 years as a journalist someone declined to answer a question before I even had the opportunity to ask one.

Jason Reid

Did he make eye contact 4 miles away? I can make eye contact from here at my desk in NOLA with Vinny C.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

PORTIS DECLARES HIMSELF UNAVAILABLE FOR PRACTICE

ASHBURN, VA – Washington Redskins running back said this morning that he was so fatigued from just watching his other teammates practice last week, that he couldn’t summon the energy to play effectively in a Sunday afternoon loss to former league doormat Detroit.

When asked who then was wearing his uniform during the embarrassing loss to the Lions, Portis said: “Yeah, I was there, but that wasn’t me.”

Portis said that watching his teammates running around at practice and trying to get their timing and rhythm down left him feeling winded and tired.

“All that standing around during the practice sessions left my ankles feeling pretty sore too,” he said.

Portis has therefore made himself unavailable this week’s practices, and he won’t even bother to attend any team meetings in preparation for next Sunday’s home game against Tampa Bay.

Said the star running back, “I don’t want to take any chances this week. So I’ll see ya on Sunday. But you should only plan on having me play for part of the 3rd Quarter.”

This was in the comments from Reid's post that Fatness posted above.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Late Sunday afternoon, as the Washington Redskins hurried to dress in the visitors' locker room at Ford Field after an embarrassing 19-14 loss to the Detroit Lions that ended the Lions' losing streak at 19 games, I approached Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, before he boarded the team bus to the airport.

As soon as we made eye contact, Cerrato said, "No comment." It was the first time in 20 years as a journalist someone declined to answer a question before I even had the opportunity to ask one.

Jason Reid

Did he make eye contact 4 miles away? I can make eye contact from here at my desk in NOLA with Vinny C.

 

[nittanylion]

Sorry, GB, I've got nothing to say at this time that hasn't already been said in the aftermath of yesterday's fiasco...

I'm completely disgusted by what I saw yesterday, and I'm still trying to soak it all in...

Poor decisions by both Coaches and Players. Poor play calling. Poor execution. Obvious lack of enthusiasm on both sides of the ball...

As the game ended yesterday, I turned to one of my buddies and said: 'We're not even a joke...we're a punchline!'

"Fail to the Redskins" - whoever came up with that gem...well, I'm laughing and crying at the same time.

I was 12 Years Old when Joe Gibbs rolled into town, and kicked off the Golden Era. Shameful, embarrassing state that our once-proud Franchise finds itself in,yet again...and there's no viable short-to-medium-range solution I can think of to right this derelict ship.

Not quite as bad as the last half of Spurrier's 2nd Season, but where we look to be headed if things don't get better...well, ugh. Just ugh.

I'm not really angry. As I listened to WTEM today, I found myself shrugging my shoulders. I don't think there's a thing we can defend, when it comes to all the criticism...I guess I've just gotten inured to the 'same ol' 'skins', at this point - I've just resigned myself to my opinion that as long as Daniel and Vinny are running the show, we're destined for more of the same, and I'm not going to waste any more energy on something I don't have the power to affect. I'm just...deflated, I guess is the best way to describe it. Workin' my way through another Black Monday. Plenty more of those ahead, I fear...

...so I guess at this point I'm just going to crawl into the bunker and weather the storm.

Some of you should join me at Caddies in Bethesda on Sundays, when you can. I've altered my 'shift' from 11AM - 11PM to 11:30AM - the end of the 4PM Games. With the 'skins Season likely in the toilet, gross consumption will increase significantly, despite the cutback in hours.

A personal support group might not be a bad idea, all things considered.

I'll be big, bald and wearing a burgundy footballguys T-Shirt with an oversized blackeyed joe on the back each and every Sunday. SECOND beer is on me - one-and-done's don't cut it.

At least there will be plenty of other Games on to enjoy.

 

[fatness]

We Stink

 

[fatness]

If You Want To Blame Anybody, Blame "Leadership"

May 1999. That's when Daniel M. Snyder, a prominent businessman, bought the Washington Redskins for $800M following the death of previous owner Jack Kent Cooke. The Redskins had a rich history. They won Super Bowls in 1982, 1987, and 1991. But from 1992 to 1997, they had struggled, going 43-56-1. That's already a bad record in itself, but for a team as proud as the Redskins, that's inexcusable. Snyder took over and said he wanted to make the Redskins a winner again. When asked by Wally Bruckner whether he had a passion for football, the young Snyder had this to say. "Sure. I understand the tradition. First off, the traditiion for the Redskins is winning. And as far as the football, I completely respect that. I'm a team player. I want to propel the Redskins back where they belong."

So when's that going to happen?

 

[fatness]

LOL at this article's title. Oxymoron.

Time For Leadership From Daniel Snyder

A very public, face to the camera, personal statement by Snyder that he has the utmost confidence in the coach and expects the team to make the playoffs provides shelter for the team to pull themselves together.

That move will redirect fan ire at Snyder, of course. But that's what you need now, Daniel Snyder the lightning rod to save my team.

What happens in December is another matter. If I were the owner, my December conversation with Zorn would start something like: head coach, quarterback coach and playcaller--pick any two and give up the other.

Today, I need Snyder to visibly stand up and tell players and everyone that Jim Zorn is the man.

 

[buster c]

If You Want To Blame Anybody, Blame "Leadership"

DeAngelo Hall is on the decline and was signed to a six-year, $54M extension, which makes little-to-no sense.

 

[fatness]

Cowboys won. Skins are in last place in the NFC East.

Settle in. Get comfortable.

 

[Sebowski]

Billick is in the booth and not on the sidelines for a reason. Ok, for lots of reasons. The fact that he agreed with Zorn is more proof that Zorn was wrong. You always make a kicker kick a 50 yarder in that situation. The chance he misses weighted with the field position recieved after a miss from there make it a no-brainer.

Uhhh, the PK would have had to kick over a 50 yarder if they hadn't made the first. As is, it would have been a 40+ yarder, which is easy peasy for a PK like Jason Hason. That is why they took the penalty, better chance that he wouldn't make the FG or attempt on for 50+.

3-4-WAS 33 (2:22) (Shotgun) 9-M.Stafford pass incomplete short right to 89-W.Heller. WAS-96-C.Griffin was injured during the play. His return is Probable. PENALTY on DET-82-C.Fitzsimmons, Offensive Pass Interference, 9 yards, enforced at WAS 33 - No Play.

That would have been a 50 yard kick. After watching them drive from the half yard line, you make him kick that ball. You go for it on fourth and the half yard line because you have faith in the defense. I get that. Once they get to the 33 that faith needs to be gone, and you need to get the D off the field. Especially after a history of struggling on 3rd downs.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Billick is in the booth and not on the sidelines for a reason. Ok, for lots of reasons. The fact that he agreed with Zorn is more proof that Zorn was wrong. You always make a kicker kick a 50 yarder in that situation. The chance he misses weighted with the field position recieved after a miss from there make it a no-brainer.

Uhhh, the PK would have had to kick over a 50 yarder if they hadn't made the first. As is, it would have been a 40+ yarder, which is easy peasy for a PK like Jason Hason. That is why they took the penalty, better chance that he wouldn't make the FG or attempt on for 50+.

3-4-WAS 33 (2:22) (Shotgun) 9-M.Stafford pass incomplete short right to 89-W.Heller. WAS-96-C.Griffin was injured during the play. His return is Probable. PENALTY on DET-82-C.Fitzsimmons, Offensive Pass Interference, 9 yards, enforced at WAS 33 - No Play.

That would have been a 50 yard kick. After watching them drive from the half yard line, you make him kick that ball. You go for it on fourth and the half yard line because you have faith in the defense. I get that. Once they get to the 33 that faith needs to be gone, and you need to get the D off the field. Especially after a history of struggling on 3rd downs.

Hmm...for some reason I remember them being in under the 30 yard line. Maybe I was dazed and confused after Stafford's run. Thanks for setting me straight and confirming that Zorn is even more of a bonehead than earlier thought.

 

[MikeApf]

Was listening to Sports Radio 106.7 the FAN just now and they reported that a Redskins plane was just seen in Denver, Colorado. They speculated that Redskins officials may have been going to talk with Shanny but of course this report was denied by "sources close to the team," who said that Redskins planes are supposedly used by businesses and that there was no connection. I don't have a link, sorry, because this was on the radio.

Has anyone heard anything more about this?

M

 

[nittanylion]

I'm pretty sure in the PreGame Show before last night's MNF tilt, that Adam Schefter reported the same thing. They did a 5-minute or so segment on the state of the Redskins, and I think at the tail end of that, Adam mentioned the sighting of the plane in Denver, but that his sources with the inside scoop were adamant that it had nothing to do with Shanahan, but rather Snyder's other business pursuits...we'll see, I guess.

 

[dgreen]

I thought Shanny was in NY or something doing pregame shows.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I'm pretty sure in the PreGame Show before last night's MNF tilt, that Adam Schefter reported the same thing. They did a 5-minute or so segment on the state of the Redskins, and I think at the tail end of that, Adam mentioned the sighting of the plane in Denver, but that his sources with the inside scoop were adamant that it had nothing to do with Shanahan, but rather Snyder's other business pursuits...we'll see, I guess.

That's what they say until we lose to the Bucs, then all of a sudden...WAH BAM!!!! Here comes Skeletor!!!!

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I would love to have Jaws as our qb coach, in fact I would give him a boat load of money to do this. Making it hard for him to decline. And I really don't want Skelator. I want a young guy like Ryan with the Jets, that guy has completely changed that team. I'd give some consideration to Jim Harbaugh of Stanford, he's made Stanford a better team, and has them going in the right direction. I am going by what his brother is doing in Baltimore. But I would be much happier with a younger guy with the fire in his stomach. Also I know its early but mock drafts have us taken Brandon Spikes lb from Florida, which would put Rak back at DE full time. But we need OLINE HELP BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!! And I have no problem looking at Hiller from WMU and the Kid from CMU later in the draft as our qb.

 

[dgreen]

Also I know its early but mock drafts have us taken Brandon Spikes lb from Florida, which would put Rak back at DE full time.

The thing that will put Rak at DE full time is him being the best RDE. I'm not saying whether he is or isn't right now. I'm just saying drafting a LB won't get Rak at DE full time if the team feels Andre Carter is better. Of course, if the season progresses as it has, no chance Carter will be back and they look to dump as many salaries as possible.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I'm just getting angrier and angrier. This sucks.

My low points as a Skins fan:

1) The Super Bowl of which we shall not speak.

2) 0-7 start in 1998 after a blowout against the Vikings. Remember Darrell Green crying on the sideline?

3) Yesterday.

Matt Terl adds some low points to the list of historical low points.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

1067 the fan seems pretty confident the Skins talked with Shanny yesterday.

 

[Sebowski]

I would love to have Jaws as our qb coach, in fact I would give him a boat load of money to do this. Making it hard for him to decline. And I really don't want Skelator. I want a young guy like Ryan with the Jets, that guy has completely changed that team. I'd give some consideration to Jim Harbaugh of Stanford, he's made Stanford a better team, and has them going in the right direction. I am going by what his brother is doing in Baltimore. But I would be much happier with a younger guy with the fire in his stomach. Also I know its early but mock drafts have us taken Brandon Spikes lb from Florida, which would put Rak back at DE full time. But we need OLINE HELP BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!! And I have no problem looking at Hiller from WMU and the Kid from CMU later in the draft as our qb.

I have no idea why why didn't go after Ryan before Zorn. I was really hoping we would. I agree with Harbaugh in theory, but I am wary of a college coach. Who is the last NFL head coach to be successful in his first gig out of college? I'm blanking on anyone.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I would love to have Jaws as our qb coach, in fact I would give him a boat load of money to do this. Making it hard for him to decline. And I really don't want Skelator. I want a young guy like Ryan with the Jets, that guy has completely changed that team. I'd give some consideration to Jim Harbaugh of Stanford, he's made Stanford a better team, and has them going in the right direction. I am going by what his brother is doing in Baltimore. But I would be much happier with a younger guy with the fire in his stomach. Also I know its early but mock drafts have us taken Brandon Spikes lb from Florida, which would put Rak back at DE full time. But we need OLINE HELP BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!! And I have no problem looking at Hiller from WMU and the Kid from CMU later in the draft as our qb.

I have no idea why why didn't go after Ryan before Zorn. I was really hoping we would. I agree with Harbaugh in theory, but I am wary of a college coach. Who is the last NFL head coach to be successful in his first gig out of college? I'm blanking on anyone.

That guy with the nice hair that lives on a boat in Miami?

 

[dgreen]

1067 the fan seems pretty confident the Skins talked with Shanny yesterday.

Maybe he's just consulting.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

All of this really blows.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

All of this really blows.

This is just patchwork again to me. I want something brand new. We will FAIL AGAIN!!!!

 

[Sebowski]

All of this really blows.

This is just patchwork again to me. I want something brand new. We will FAIL AGAIN!!!!

Wasn't Zorn suppose to be that something brand new? Are we giving up too early on him? Just trying to see it from a different angle. For the most part I agree with fatness that it looks like Zorn id in over his head.

 

[DCThunder]

All of this really blows.

This is just patchwork again to me. I want something brand new. We will FAIL AGAIN!!!!

Look, Snyder ain't going anywhere. His franchise is worth $1.5BILLION, so why would he?But I could see Shanahan saying "if you want me, then Vinny goes". And know what, I bet Danny agrees. ..........Well, I can dream, can't I?

 

[TankRizzo]

I would love to have Jaws as our qb coach, in fact I would give him a boat load of money to do this. Making it hard for him to decline. And I really don't want Skelator. I want a young guy like Ryan with the Jets, that guy has completely changed that team. I'd give some consideration to Jim Harbaugh of Stanford, he's made Stanford a better team, and has them going in the right direction. I am going by what his brother is doing in Baltimore. But I would be much happier with a younger guy with the fire in his stomach. Also I know its early but mock drafts have us taken Brandon Spikes lb from Florida, which would put Rak back at DE full time. But we need OLINE HELP BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!! And I have no problem looking at Hiller from WMU and the Kid from CMU later in the draft as our qb.

Only reason I want a big name coach again is that they'll hopefully demand the reigns of the team. Otherwise Snyder is going to want to impose God knows what on the new, unproven guy and he'll take it. If they're not a name, Snyder will never sign someone like a Lane Kiffen. Whether or not they'll be subservient is probably at the top of his interview list.

 

[MikeApf]

I'm pretty sure in the PreGame Show before last night's MNF tilt, that Adam Schefter reported the same thing. They did a 5-minute or so segment on the state of the Redskins, and I think at the tail end of that, Adam mentioned the sighting of the plane in Denver, but that his sources with the inside scoop were adamant that it had nothing to do with Shanahan, but rather Snyder's other business pursuits...we'll see, I guess.

That what they say until we lose to the Bucs, then all of a sudden...WAH BAM!!!! Here comes Skeletor!!!!

If Skeletor gets the nod, look for the Redskins to draft a RB with their first pick so he can swap out Portis, Betts, New Guy and perhas a Free Agent from week to week!

M

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I'm pretty sure in the PreGame Show before last night's MNF tilt, that Adam Schefter reported the same thing. They did a 5-minute or so segment on the state of the Redskins, and I think at the tail end of that, Adam mentioned the sighting of the plane in Denver, but that his sources with the inside scoop were adamant that it had nothing to do with Shanahan, but rather Snyder's other business pursuits...we'll see, I guess.

That what they say until we lose to the Bucs, then all of a sudden...WAH BAM!!!! Here comes Skeletor!!!!

If Skeletor gets the nod, look for the Redskins to draft a RB with their first pick so he can swap out Portis, Betts, New Guy and perhas a Free Agent from week to week!

M

Ok so who is our Rb? Spiller, Dywer?

 

[pablito]

A refreshing look at a coach that knows how to win...

from Peter King on SI.com

Late Sunday afternoon, Detroit coach Jim Schwartz and his rookie quarterback, Matthew Stafford, found themselves alone on an elevator leaving Ford Field after the Lions' 19-14 win over Washington. There were many things Schwartz could have said -- how great it was to break a 19-game Lions losing streak, how cool it was for a downtrodden city, how proud he was for both them on their first NFL victory. But this is what Schwartz chose to say:

"Don't you ever go conservative on me.''

"I won't, coach,'' said Stafford.

 

[buster c]

Was listening to Sports Radio 106.7 the FAN just now and they reported that a Redskins plane was just seen in Denver, Colorado. They speculated that Redskins officials may have been going to talk with Shanny but of course this report was denied by "sources close to the team," who said that Redskins planes are supposedly used by businesses and that there was no connection. I don't have a link, sorry, because this was on the radio.

Has anyone heard anything more about this?

M

linkI know I said in the offseason thread to fire Zorn and hire Shanny, but the more I look around and see younger men getting teams ready to play winning football, I like the hiring of Russ Grimm more and more.

Then I realize, it doesn't really matter.

But I think will get himself fired eventually. Of course, if that results in Napoleon bringing in Joey T, we get 10 more years of inept personnel mgt. Maybe by 2020, Snyder dies of cancer and his wife hires a real football man. I'm giving up the dream of some deranged fan assassinating him.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Was listening to Sports Radio 106.7 the FAN just now and they reported that a Redskins plane was just seen in Denver, Colorado. They speculated that Redskins officials may have been going to talk with Shanny but of course this report was denied by "sources close to the team," who said that Redskins planes are supposedly used by businesses and that there was no connection. I don't have a link, sorry, because this was on the radio.

Has anyone heard anything more about this?

M

linkI know I said in the offseason thread to fire Zorn and hire Shanny, but the more I look around and see younger men getting teams ready to play winning football, I like the hiring of Russ Grimm more and more.

Then I realize, it doesn't really matter.

But I think will get himself fired eventually. Of course, if that results in Napoleon bringing in Joey T, we get 10 more years of inept personnel mgt. Maybe by 2020, Snyder dies of cancer and his wife hires a real football man. I'm giving up the dream of some deranged fan assassinating him.

Maybe all the Redskins fans chip in X amount of money. And we all buy the team from Snyder.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

All of this really blows.

This is just patchwork again to me. I want something brand new. We will FAIL AGAIN!!!!

Wasn't Zorn suppose to be that something brand new? Are we giving up too early on him? Just trying to see it from a different angle. For the most part I agree with fatness that it looks like Zorn id in over his head.

How could that be the case with most of the coaching staff and key players being holdovers from Gibbs, and with no real say in personnel matters or (apparently) the hiring and firing of coaches? Zorn is the Redskins version of Wade Phillips, only with less weight and experience.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I'm pretty sure in the PreGame Show before last night's MNF tilt, that Adam Schefter reported the same thing. They did a 5-minute or so segment on the state of the Redskins, and I think at the tail end of that, Adam mentioned the sighting of the plane in Denver, but that his sources with the inside scoop were adamant that it had nothing to do with Shanahan, but rather Snyder's other business pursuits...we'll see, I guess.

That what they say until we lose to the Bucs, then all of a sudden...WAH BAM!!!! Here comes Skeletor!!!!

If Skeletor gets the nod, look for the Redskins to draft a RB with their first pick so he can swap out Portis, Betts, New Guy and perhas a Free Agent from week to week!

M

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Skeletor always finds talent later in the draft for RB spots. His only higher picks in the 2nd round were Portis and then Bell to replace Portis...after they got Champ Bailey to boot. Skeletor is infamous for finding talented runners that gain over 1,000 yds later in draft.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Skeletor always finds talent later in the draft for RB spots. His only higher picks in the 2nd round were Portis and then Bell to replace Portis...after they got Champ Bailey to boot. Skeletor is infamous for finding talented runners that gain over 1,000 yds later in draft when he had Alex Gibbs as his o-line coach.

Fixed.

 

[Bizkiteer]

All of this really blows.

Yes, it is a fine mess we are in. We can only hope some fool with a red cape will come and save our day.

All of this really blows.

This is just patchwork again to me. I want something brand new. We will FAIL AGAIN!!!!

Wasn't Zorn suppose to be that something brand new? Are we giving up too early on him? Just trying to see it from a different angle. For the most part I agree with fatness that it looks like Zorn id in over his head.

Yep, Zorn was something brand new and it was a great idea at the time. The problem is...he never was an OC, so just having him run an offense was new enough. We put him in as HC and what is being asked of him appears to be far over his head. He probably could have been a success if he had a great supporting staff, but knuckleheads like Blache aren't helping Zorn at all.How much of an opportunity did Zorn really have to be successful?

Look, Snyder ain't going anywhere. His franchise is worth $1.5BILLION, so why would he?But I could see Shanahan saying "if you want me, then Vinny goes". And know what, I bet Danny agrees.

I think you are actually right on at this point. Shanny, Holgren or Cowher will want Vinny out or to have authority to turnover Vinny decisions. DanMan might be so fumming and desperate over the direction of the team....that he actually caves in. Then they will have success and Danny will think he knows better and fire the coach, just ask Jimmy Johnson how that scenario plays out.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Skeletor always finds talent later in the draft for RB spots. His only higher picks in the 2nd round were Portis and then Bell to replace Portis...after they got Champ Bailey to boot. Skeletor is infamous for finding talented runners that gain over 1,000 yds later in draft when he had Alex Gibbs as his o-line coach.

Fixed.

Which I'm sure he'll get to come to WAS after the season. Gibbs caught on with the Texans, where most of Shanny's boys are at now, since Kubiak is there. Keep hoping that the Texans play poorly and who knows...Kubiak can join Shanny as his OC again too.Remember it's Shanny that oversees the talent, it was Gibbs that created and maintain the zone blocking.

 

[Bizkiteer]

1067 the fan seems pretty confident the Skins talked with Shanny yesterday.

Let's hope that they are right and not just having a hunch. It would be great if they actually had a source, but just weren't spillin' the beans about it.