***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

The play was called because it was thought to be a play that had a good chance to work.

If Zorn thought it had a good chance, I don't think there's any hope for him as a playcaller. Why exactly was it supposed to work? They lined up on a 3rd and goal from the 5 in a run formation. They had two TEs, a FB, and a WR to go a long with RB. But, IT'S 3RD AND 5! Nobody on the Rams thought they were going to run despite the formation and personnel. Even when they started a run play, nobody on the Rams over committed themselves. Why would they? They had 5 yards to stop him. And, it's not like they had a lot of zone to cover if it was a pass. Cooley could only go so far.I can't think of one reason why that playcall made sense. Even if they completed it, it would have required their RUNNINGBACK to throw a PERFECT pass! It would have been a successful play AGAINST all odds.

 

[MikeApf]

Can someone tell him that he is the Head Coach and he can insert any play he wants at anytime? Improvise, adapt and overcome!!!!

How about this play:

Marko to the left, Kelly to the right. Two fade patterns. Tell Campbell to pick one presnap and throw on a one-step drop. It really doesn't matter what the other 8 players do.

What? This would require Campbell to make a decision and we can't have that! Next time we'll definitely fool them with that off tackle left!

M

 

[Marvelous]

The Czaben article is hilarious.

But reflecting back on the coaching search, there was definately the feel that no coach with other options will coach the Redskins under the Danny/Vinny front office.

The Redskin's Head Coaching job is now on par with the Oakland Raiders. And like the Raiders, they will have a bizarre coaching search in the off season.

 

[Marvelous]

I had one other random thought: Watching the Giants last night, and Manning underthrew a deep ball, I think to Steve Smtih. Smith is well covered, but adjusts to the ball and makes the catch.

This happens all the time in the NFL. But I can't even remember the last time the Redskins had an underthrown bomb and gave the reciever a chance to adjust and make the catch.

 

[fatness]

A detailed look at "Ugly"

When running back Clinton Portis burst through for an 11-yard gain, Washington had first and goal at the 8..........

.................Then Portis was stuffed for a one-yard gain. Portis took a shovel pass from Campbell, ran into his own man, and lunged ahead to the 3. And on third down, Zorn called another pass play. Second-year wide receiver Devin Thomas -- big and physical, drafted for this kind of situation -- was lined up to the right. But Thomas got caught up at the line of scrimmage.......

.......The ball came through quickly. It hit Thomas, he couldn't hold on, and the first red-zone failure was complete.

the Redskins got four more first downs, a good third-down throw from Campbell to Santana Moss, and had another first and goal from the 8. The results this time: Portis for a two-yard loss, and then a bit of a second-down surprise in the form of a pass to fullback Mike Sellers, who cut down a seam in the middle...................................................

.................................Campbell zipped him the ball. Sellers, a stride from cracking the goal line, couldn't hang on........

...................................Campbell's third-down throw to Antwaan Randle El was way over his head, and Washington's entire offense had to let that go.

Campbell hit Randle El with a 24-yard seam pass, giving the Redskins a first and goal from the 7. Here's what followed: Portis for no gain, Portis for two yards up the middle and Portis -- what? -- rolling right, looking to pass?

"That was a play in that particular situation that really had a chance to go," Zorn said........

........................Two problems: Cooley caught his foot in the turf and fell, and the Redskins were called for holding on the play anyway. Another field goal.

The Redskins' last true attempt came when they could have salted the game away, when Zorn had already gone for it on fourth down to keep a drive alive late in the fourth quarter. With first and 10 from the 11, Zorn went to Ladell Betts twice, then to Portis. Fourth and one at the 2. Campbell lined up and saw the Rams loaded to the left side. The play was to Portis just that way. But deep in the red zone, Zorn doesn't want Campbell changing plays, lest a communication problem cause a costly turnover.

So they ran Portis, to the left side. The Rams crushed him, a two-yard loss.

In the red zone I'd let Campbell change Zorn's offensive play calls. Or Portis. Or Chris Horton or Hunter Smith for that matter. Or the drunk woman in the third row, or the embarrassed third grade kid next to her. Someone. Anyone. Because Zorn has no clue what works.

 

[fatness]

A start of 0-2 would have brought one hushed, elephant-in-the-room thought in Ashburn:

If Jim Zorn can't get the troops up to quash the lousy Lions in Detroit next Sunday, when does Greg Blache get the call from the bullpen? How long a leash of losing does Daniel Snyder give to Zorn, the man who 20 months ago coached quarterbacks in Seattle?

Three games? Five? Seven? Before going to Blache, the team's defensive coordinator.

And no one wanted that.

Not this early.

Mike Wise

 

[dgreen]

A start of 0-2 would have brought one hushed, elephant-in-the-room thought in Ashburn:

If Jim Zorn can't get the troops up to quash the lousy Lions in Detroit next Sunday, when does Greg Blache get the call from the bullpen? How long a leash of losing does Daniel Snyder give to Zorn, the man who 20 months ago coached quarterbacks in Seattle?

Three games? Five? Seven? Before going to Blache, the team's defensive coordinator.

And no one wanted that.

Not this early.

Mike Wise

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

 

[fatness]

Obviously, the Redskins need someone to replace Thomas, who will be placed on the season-ending injured reserve list and is expected to undergo surgery Wednesday.

During camp, I wrote about the possibility of bringing back Kendall for depth purposes, if nothing else, but the Redskins, who are the oldest team in the league and need to get younger in a lot of areas, stuck with the group they brought to camp. Kendall is 36, has arthritic knees and can't practice.

Link

 

[fatness]

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

To be clear, Mike Wise's opinion in his article is that regardless of record Zorn should coach the whole year. I don't know who they'd replace him with, but I think the job would overmatch anyone currently on staff, so I don't wish it on any of them.

 

[fatness]

* NFL rankings:

Offense is 18th in yards, (17th in rushing, 18th in passing) and tied for 29th in points. Only Cleveland and St. Louis have scored fewer points.

The defense is 12th in yards (18th in rushing, tied for 10th in passing) and eighth in points allowed. The Redskins' defense is 28th in third down efficiency.

Special teams -- The coverage teams are seventh (punts) and second (kickoffs). The return teams are tied for 14th (punts) and 18th (kickoffs).

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I base our team on the ability to win the SB. Not that we are going to go 10-6, or 15-1. But if we happened to make the playoffs, can we go all the way. The answer is sadly no, and has been for a long, long time. Even the couple years we made the playoffs, we were going nowhere.

Since Snyder... 4 coaches (not counting interim). Only Marty and Gibbs had real pedigree at this level. Marty was never given a chance, and Gibbs - love him - simply didn't have the ability to adjust to the new NFL. Spurrier was a total disaster. Zorn isn't far behind. So in my opinion, all bad hires. And who to hold responsible for that - Snyder. And who to hold accountable for bad cap management and poor talent over this time - the one consisten fixture - Vinny (although Marty fired him for 1 year).

Sadly, Dan and Vinny will never get their heads out of their ###. Neither has the respect of other Owners or GMs, and neither has or will ever have the respect of Redskin fans.

 

[dgreen]

Current losing streaks of Redskins opponents:

Rams 12

Lions 19

Buccaneers 6

Panthers 3

Chiefs 6

That's what we call a soft schedule. Unfortunately, I'm not sure they can take advantage.

 

[Sebowski]

I actually thought Campbell looked very good. About the only play I could point to him messing up was that very first throw to Kelly downfield - he underthrew it a bit and that gave the DB a chance to get back in the picture and while Kelly still could have caught it, it was a hard catch.

The throw in the end zone to Thomas was maybe a little harder than it needed to be - but Thomas still should have caught it, and Sellers definitely should have caught the one to him.

But Campbell made a lot of good throws under pressure - and did a good job of stepping up away from pressure and either throwing on the run or taking off and picking up the 1st down. He also did a good job of converting 3rd down plays - even when the team fall-started its way from 3rd and 4 to 3rd and 9.

I blame the playcalling of Zorn in the red zone and the drops. If Sellers and Thomas make those catches - everyone isn't so disgusted today. But still - they should have had more chances. It's very rare in today's NFL that teams can just run it in from the 1st and goal on the 8. You have to come out passing down there. And the Portis throw - that's not fooling anyone. I knew right away he was going to throw. Campbell played very well and Zorn just didn't call good plays in the Red Zone. Agreed with others - 1st down should totally be play action. 4th and 1 was another good time for play action.

As for the D - decent but not great. That roughing the passer penalty killed us - we would have had a turnover on the Rams 15 yard line and had a chance to start a rout right there.

Anyway - there's a lot to be unhappy about in yesterday's performance but I don't see how anyone can say that Campbell wasn't good.

That should not have been a penalty either. Jarmon was screened by the O-Lineman and barely touched Bulger. It would be great if Jarmon becomes a contributor. Was it me or were we a half second off from a sack and/or strip numerous times yesterday? I really thought those plays would get finished in the 4th.

What if we fired our OC (I know it is hard to believe we actually have one) and gave the new guy play calling duties? It is a way to save face for Zorn for at least the end of the year. Would Shanny take that job and then take over for Zorn next year if it comes to that? He may see it as a good challenge. Turn these offensive woes around and his value goes through the roof. Sputter along and it was to be expected atkeing over during the season.

 

[Sebowski]

A start of 0-2 would have brought one hushed, elephant-in-the-room thought in Ashburn:

If Jim Zorn can't get the troops up to quash the lousy Lions in Detroit next Sunday, when does Greg Blache get the call from the bullpen? How long a leash of losing does Daniel Snyder give to Zorn, the man who 20 months ago coached quarterbacks in Seattle?

Three games? Five? Seven? Before going to Blache, the team's defensive coordinator.

And no one wanted that.

Not this early.

Mike Wise

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

Looks like the players might be alright with that:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsb...yelling_at.html

Why Danny Smith Was Yelling At Jim Zorn

During one of the fourth quarter's most memorable moments on Sunday, Jim Zorn attempted to signal for a timeout before a fourth-down play, and special teams coach Danny Smith just about jumped in front of him, trying to physically prevent him from doing so. Smith was trying to get Zorn to wait until the play clock got closer to zero, to run off the maximum amount of time.

I asked Zorn about the sequence today; here's his explanation, in full.

"He saw the 25-second clock and I didn't, because there was a pile," Zorn said. "Where I was, my vantage point, you can only go down so far. And so my vantage point, there were about four or five guys in front of the 25-second clock. He had looked at the other clock. And so we had time that we could take off the clock. He doesn't have a headset on, I do, I couldn't hear him. And you know how he gets going, 'YEEEEE-HUH!' You know, he just kind of got fired up about it, wanted to make sure. He saw me calling timeout, I didn't hear him, and so he came and got right in front of me. Because I was looking out onto the field."

I asked him whether he'd want an assistant to so forcibly control his actions during a game; "Absolutely," Zorn said. "We're all in it together. And he was helping the situation out, he wasn't hurting the situation. I wasn't hurt by him doing what he did."

Some players hadn't seen this sequence at all, but several had.

"I don't know exactly what happened, but Danny's a very smart coach," said Mike Sellers, one of the special teams captains.

"Danny knows the game and I think he was really into the game, so I think he made a good decision," Rock Cartwright, the other special teams captain, said. "And we were able to run some more time off the clock, so that's a good thing."

 

[Marvelous]

A start of 0-2 would have brought one hushed, elephant-in-the-room thought in Ashburn:

If Jim Zorn can't get the troops up to quash the lousy Lions in Detroit next Sunday, when does Greg Blache get the call from the bullpen? How long a leash of losing does Daniel Snyder give to Zorn, the man who 20 months ago coached quarterbacks in Seattle?

Three games? Five? Seven? Before going to Blache, the team's defensive coordinator.

And no one wanted that.

Not this early.

Mike Wise

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

Looks like the players might be alright with that:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsb...yelling_at.html

Why Danny Smith Was Yelling At Jim Zorn

During one of the fourth quarter's most memorable moments on Sunday, Jim Zorn attempted to signal for a timeout before a fourth-down play, and special teams coach Danny Smith just about jumped in front of him, trying to physically prevent him from doing so. Smith was trying to get Zorn to wait until the play clock got closer to zero, to run off the maximum amount of time.

I asked Zorn about the sequence today; here's his explanation, in full.

"He saw the 25-second clock and I didn't, because there was a pile," Zorn said. "Where I was, my vantage point, you can only go down so far. And so my vantage point, there were about four or five guys in front of the 25-second clock. He had looked at the other clock. And so we had time that we could take off the clock. He doesn't have a headset on, I do, I couldn't hear him. And you know how he gets going, 'YEEEEE-HUH!' You know, he just kind of got fired up about it, wanted to make sure. He saw me calling timeout, I didn't hear him, and so he came and got right in front of me. Because I was looking out onto the field."

I asked him whether he'd want an assistant to so forcibly control his actions during a game; "Absolutely," Zorn said. "We're all in it together. And he was helping the situation out, he wasn't hurting the situation. I wasn't hurt by him doing what he did."

Some players hadn't seen this sequence at all, but several had.

"I don't know exactly what happened, but Danny's a very smart coach," said Mike Sellers, one of the special teams captains.

"Danny knows the game and I think he was really into the game, so I think he made a good decision," Rock Cartwright, the other special teams captain, said. "And we were able to run some more time off the clock, so that's a good thing."

The full explanation does not help Jim's case. Basically, it never dawned on him to run the clock down. Otherwise, we would have take a few steps so he could see the play clock.

 

[Bizkiteer]

You get the feeling that the less you know about Zorn and his actions, the better off you are as a fan. The saying that seems to fit is "sometimes less is more."

 

[fatness]

2009 Redskin Offensive Leaders - Touchdowns

Hunter Smith - 1

Chris Cooley - 1

51 others with 0

 

[fatness]

Barry Svrluga

For Jim Zorn, there is always an explanation for why a specific play didn't work, and each day that follows a game during the Redskins' season, he spends time investigating the particulars on every snap. On Monday, he went over each of 69 plays his offensive unit ran in Sunday's 9-7 victory over the St. Louis Rams. Twenty-one of those plays resulted in first downs. Seven of them went for at least 15 yards. None of them -- not even the dozen plays the Redskins ran inside the Rams 10-yard line -- resulted in a touchdown.

During his tenure overseeing the Redskins' offense, Zorn has professed confidence in his ability as a play-caller, even though he had never held the job in the NFL before

Zorn, more than anything, believes it is a matter of players executing their assignments. It is a theme that dates from last year, when the Redskins shot out to a 6-2 start only to collapse by losing six of their final eight games. When he was asked about failed plays from the victory over the Rams, Zorn pointed to problems in each one.

Zorn just does not get it.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Fatness is this you???

 

[Sebowski]

Here is my solution: fire Sherman Smith and hire Peyton Manning to be our OC. He can still QB for the Colts. I just want him calling the plays for us.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Barry Svrluga

For Jim Zorn, there is always an explanation for why a specific play didn't work, and each day that follows a game during the Redskins' season, he spends time investigating the particulars on every snap. On Monday, he went over each of 69 plays his offensive unit ran in Sunday's 9-7 victory over the St. Louis Rams. Twenty-one of those plays resulted in first downs. Seven of them went for at least 15 yards. None of them -- not even the dozen plays the Redskins ran inside the Rams 10-yard line -- resulted in a touchdown.

During his tenure overseeing the Redskins' offense, Zorn has professed confidence in his ability as a play-caller, even though he had never held the job in the NFL before

Zorn, more than anything, believes it is a matter of players executing their assignments. It is a theme that dates from last year, when the Redskins shot out to a 6-2 start only to collapse by losing six of their final eight games. When he was asked about failed plays from the victory over the Rams, Zorn pointed to problems in each one.

Zorn just does not get it.

Zorn gets too scholarly. No more of this pedantic post-game breakdown of plays that went wrong. He just needs to kick ### and take names right now. His play-calling is a bizarre combination of conservatism and trying to be too cute with gimmicks. You run the WCO with a decently skilled QB chomping at the bit in a contract year in an offense that finally has complimentary WR's and a very good TE. Throw the ####### ball already!

I'm very worried that Zorn is a deer in the headlights with the pressure very much on him to perform this year.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

For some quick entertainment of the Schadenfreud variety, fellow 'Skins fans, please take a look at the last two pages of the Cowboys season thread. They went from near orgasmic giddiness regarding the opening of the new stadium and its baptism by fire to almost suicidal despair at their loss.

I'm thinking some bi-polar meds may be in order over there.

 

[Arizona Ron]

Perhaps the most animated player was backup linebacker Robert Henson, who took to Twitter to repeatedly criticize the home crowd, saying he had never been booed at home like that before, and that his friends on the Rams were also surprised."All you fake half hearted Skins fan can .. I won't go there but I dislike you very strongly, don't come to Fed Ex to boo dim wits!!" he wrote, among many other jabs. "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds," he wrote later.

Getting on the 9-5 shift isn't easy guy.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Jason Reid

With Thomas expected to be out for the season, Montgomery might now be the Redskins' starting right guard. Second-year guard Chad Rinehart, who was inactive Sunday, is another option.

Rinehart's inactive status doesn't bother me because he's a OG, only. They need Montgomery active because he's a C-OG and is more versatile as an in-game emergency backup than Rinehart is. This may end up being good news. While I like Thomas, he's not what he was and they need to see what younger guys can do on that O-line. It worries me that this is on the right side with Heyer, but we'll just have to see what happens in that regard.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Jason Reid

With Thomas expected to be out for the season, Montgomery might now be the Redskins' starting right guard. Second-year guard Chad Rinehart, who was inactive Sunday, is another option.

Rinehart's inactive status doesn't bother me because he's a OG, only. They need Montgomery active because he's a C-OG and is more versatile as an in-game emergency backup than Rinehart is. This may end up being good news. While I like Thomas, he's not what he was and they need to see what younger guys can do on that O-line. It worries me that this is on the right side with Heyer, but we'll just have to see what happens in that regard.

Means even more runs to the left for 1 yard gains...

 

[dgreen]

You get the feeling that the less you know about Zorn and his actions, the better off you are as a fan. The saying that seems to fit is "sometimes less is more."

Some of the Spurrier stories that surfaced after he was gone are priceless.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Perhaps the most animated player was backup linebacker Robert Henson, who took to Twitter to repeatedly criticize the home crowd, saying he had never been booed at home like that before, and that his friends on the Rams were also surprised.

"All you fake half hearted Skins fan can .. I won't go there but I dislike you very strongly, don't come to Fed Ex to boo dim wits!!" he wrote, among many other jabs. "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds," he wrote later.

Getting on the 9-5 shift isn't easy guy.

Since this is getting negative national coverage, anyone think Henson gets slapped with any kind of penalty, either from the team or the league?

 

[fatness]

Fatness is this you???

Best. Rant. Ever.

 

[fatness]

While I like Thomas, he's not what he was and they need to see what younger guys can do on that O-line. I

Most teams see what guys can do during the preseason. And in fact the Redskins did see what Rinehart could do. That's why they hid him in a closet all last year and made him inactive this year. Don't get me wrong, I'd like young guys to take over and step up and I'll be rooting for him to do well. But I don't think Rinehart is any good. I think he's closer to Helen Keller than to Russ Grimm.

 

[dgreen]

Perhaps the most animated player was backup linebacker Robert Henson, who took to Twitter to repeatedly criticize the home crowd, saying he had never been booed at home like that before, and that his friends on the Rams were also surprised.

"All you fake half hearted Skins fan can .. I won't go there but I dislike you very strongly, don't come to Fed Ex to boo dim wits!!" he wrote, among many other jabs. "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds," he wrote later.

Getting on the 9-5 shift isn't easy guy.

Since this is getting negative national coverage, anyone think Henson gets slapped with any kind of penalty, either from the team or the league?

I'm mildly surprised there hasn't been a press release with a team apology.

 

[fatness]

boo dim wits

I ordered that once at a Chinese place.

 

[Sidewinder16]

boo dim wits

I ordered that once at a Chinese place.

Kornheiser and Co. were noting that the poor punctuation made that awfully ironic, not to mention more of a slam to Henson's own teammates than to the fans.

 

[dgreen]

While I like Thomas, he's not what he was and they need to see what younger guys can do on that O-line. I

Most teams see what guys can do during the preseason. And in fact the Redskins did see what Rinehart could do. That's why they hid him in a closet all last year and made him inactive this year. Don't get me wrong, I'd like young guys to take over and step up and I'll be rooting for him to do well. But I don't think Rinehart is any good. I think he's closer to Helen Keller than to Russ Grimm.

I believe Rinehart was played at tackle last preseason. It was a disaster. Hopefully he can be adequate at guard.But, it appears the decision isn't final yet. It sounds like Montgomery could still be the guy. I liked Rabach's quote about Montgomery. He basically said he didn't even realize he was in the game his first 3 plays. And here's what Keim said about Montgomery:

RG Will Montgomery. Listen, the kid was not great. But he's worked at guard for two weeks -- two weeks! -- and wasn't horrible. He missed on some blocks where he had to block down. It could have been worse. Montgomery is a center, so any mistakes he would have made would be on those putting the team together who could not find a suitable backup at this spot.

 

[fatness]

Zorn gets too scholarly. No more of this pedantic post-game breakdown of plays that went wrong. He just needs to kick ### and take names right now.

I'll tell you exactly what he reminds me of. He reminds me of a guy who goes into a long detailed discussion of someone's hand and foot movements, explaining the mechanics involved, the muscles and synapses involved, the coordination necessary, how adequately the person performed those motions, and what they could do to compensate for deficiencies. And then some guy taps him on the shoulder and says "Dude, this is a dance competition."He sees all the individual motions, but he doesn't see the dance.

 

[dgreen]

Fatness is this you???

Best. Rant. Ever.

I'm watching his latest video from the Giants game. I can't wait to see if he makes one about the Rams game.

 

[TankRizzo]

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

I, for one, welcome the coming Danny Smith era But yeah, I agree, Blache doesn't get the gig because they most likely want Blache to be the D-Coordinator next year. I do think that Blache should have been the one to receive the phone call to come up instead of Zorn last year though.

 

[fatness]

Good stuff from Jason Reid. He'll soon be on Snyder's #### list.

The loss of Randy Thomas is another blow to an offensive line that has struggled to start the season. It was highly unlikely that Thomas, who underwent neck and knee surgeries in the offseason, would make it through the season. Offensive line coach Joe Bugel expressed concern about Thomas in the preseason after he experienced knee pain, and Coach Jim Zorn acknowledged that Thomas would have to take it easy at times during the week. And then Thomas suffers a season-ending torn right triceps against the Rams.

Right tackle Stephon Heyer has performed poorly in pass protection at key moments in the first two games and been ineffective in run blocking, league sources said, and center Casey Rabach was not especially effective in the running game against the Rams. Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels still is the team's best lineman, but how long will his knee hold up? Second-year guard Chad Rinehart showed promise at times in the preseason, and will move into the starting lineup in place of Thomas, but he has never played in a regular-season game.

In their internal offseason evaluation of the roster, the Redskins identified the offensive line as their main deficiency.

Is it Zorn's fault the people in charge of player personnel have not appropriately addressed an offensive line clearly in need of help? I don't think it can be overstated what a bad job management has done constructing and replenishing the offensive line.

Is it his fault he's working with a roster that doesn't have nearly the amount of talent as some of the people in the big offices at Redskins Park seem to believe? I mean, really, what's the expectation level around here with the way they've constructed the team?

Link

 

[Bizkiteer]

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

I, for one, welcome the coming Danny Smith era But yeah, I agree, Blache doesn't get the gig because they most likely want Blache to be the D-Coordinator next year. I do think that Blache should have been the one to receive the phone call to come up instead of Zorn last year though.

I'm glad Blache didn't get that call. Not sure why anyone would think this guy is anything other than a DC. Matter of fact, one could argue that he's not that great of a DC too. His handling of Lavar Arrington, Jason Taylor and many other things got very little press. This guy is so stuck on his system that player are not even being used for their ability. Having Jason Taylor play LDE is a prime example of Blache's inability to improvise. Staying to your way has some advantages, but he has shown to take certain type of players and not change a thing of what he's done. Fat Al seems to be the only player so far that he might be playing more to their strengths, but I'm sure that it's not full blown to his strengths.As for our 3rd down coverage, I blame that on Blache. Yes, he's not out there running and covering, but he is the guy that needs to put the players in the best situation to make a stop. So far, he gets a D grade from me for the job that he's doing. Yes, we haven't given up a ton of points, but we can't get off the field either. If another decent DC was here, I'm sure they could get the exact production if not better from this group of defensive players. Add Blache's lack of tact in dealing with media and anyone else...NO THANKS!!!

 

[DCThunder]

I assume you guys saw that Jack Del Rio of the Jags cut two guys yesterday who f'ed up important plays the day before. Anyone think that ANY Redskin is in jeopardy of getting cut for poor performance Sunday?

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

I, for one, welcome the coming Danny Smith era But yeah, I agree, Blache doesn't get the gig because they most likely want Blache to be the D-Coordinator next year. I do think that Blache should have been the one to receive the phone call to come up instead of Zorn last year though.

I don't believe that Blache has any head coaching aspirations. I seem to recall that he was ready to retire after 2007 but got surprised by the D Coord position opening up and being offered to him.

 

[fatness]

Breaking Down Juim Zorn's Failed Timeout

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Zorn gets too scholarly. No more of this pedantic post-game breakdown of plays that went wrong. He just needs to kick ### and take names right now.

I'll tell you exactly what he reminds me of. He reminds me of a guy who goes into a long detailed discussion of someone's hand and foot movements, explaining the mechanics involved, the muscles and synapses involved, the coordination necessary, how adequately the person performed those motions, and what they could do to compensate for deficiencies. And then some guy taps him on the shoulder and says "Dude, this is a dance competition."He sees all the individual motions, but he doesn't see the dance.

Pretty good analogy. In other words he's coaching like a position coach instead of a head coach. That needs to stop. Yesterday.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Fatness is this you???

Best. Rant. Ever.

I'm watching his latest video from the Giants game. I can't wait to see if he makes one about the Rams game.

"I'm not my dad!!!! I barely remember a guy named Rypien throwing bombs to Art Monk, and Gary Clark!!!!!"Funniest effing line!!!

Also waiting for Rams remarks. Dude might of hung himself.

 

[fatness]

Stephon Heyer simply hasn't played well, sources said. If Heyer struggles again this week against the Detroit Lions, I wouldn't be surprised if tackle Mike Williams started at some point soon.

I know, I know. Williams hasn't played in a regular-season game since 2005. But he made the opening 53-man roster, was active in the first two games and Heyer has left the door ajar for him. In camp, a source in the organization told me that Williams could be the starting right tackle by Week 3. We'll see.

no, no desperation, not here, no way

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Stephon Heyer simply hasn't played well, sources said. If Heyer struggles again this week against the Detroit Lions, I wouldn't be surprised if tackle Mike Williams started at some point soon.

I know, I know. Williams hasn't played in a regular-season game since 2005. But he made the opening 53-man roster, was active in the first two games and Heyer has left the door ajar for him. In camp, a source in the organization told me that Williams could be the starting right tackle by Week 3. We'll see.

no, no desperation, not here, no way

 

[fatness]

In other words he's coaching like a position coach instead of a head coach. That needs to stop. Yesterday.

Yes.He needs to start coaching now like a head coach, who's responsible for getting his team to do anything necessary to win the game they are involved in at the moment.Whatever happened to watching game trends and tendencies and taking advantage of them? To using one thing to set up another? Those things happen within the flow of a game, not in academic study.

 

[fatness]

I assume you guys saw that Jack Del Rio of the Jags cut two guys yesterday who f'ed up important plays the day before. Anyone think that ANY Redskin is in jeopardy of getting cut for poor performance Sunday?

That is a sign that del Rio is in big trouble.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I assume you guys saw that Jack Del Rio of the Jags cut two guys yesterday who f'ed up important plays the day before. Anyone think that ANY Redskin is in jeopardy of getting cut for poor performance Sunday?

That is a sign that del Rio is in big trouble.

This wasn't exactly a secure Bill Parcells dropping the hammer. Del Rio's hanging on by the fingernails right now. I agree with the fundamantal point, however. The players feel far too secure from any wrath their head coach might want to dole out.

 

[Sebowski]

Not that I think it's going to happen, but I doubt Blache would get the interim job. My guess is that would go to Danny Smith.

I, for one, welcome the coming Danny Smith era But yeah, I agree, Blache doesn't get the gig because they most likely want Blache to be the D-Coordinator next year. I do think that Blache should have been the one to receive the phone call to come up instead of Zorn last year though.

I'm glad Blache didn't get that call. Not sure why anyone would think this guy is anything other than a DC. Matter of fact, one could argue that he's not that great of a DC too. His handling of Lavar Arrington, Jason Taylor and many other things got very little press. This guy is so stuck on his system that player are not even being used for their ability. Having Jason Taylor play LDE is a prime example of Blache's inability to improvise. Staying to your way has some advantages, but he has shown to take certain type of players and not change a thing of what he's done. Fat Al seems to be the only player so far that he might be playing more to their strengths, but I'm sure that it's not full blown to his strengths.As for our 3rd down coverage, I blame that on Blache. Yes, he's not out there running and covering, but he is the guy that needs to put the players in the best situation to make a stop. So far, he gets a D grade from me for the job that he's doing. Yes, we haven't given up a ton of points, but we can't get off the field either. If another decent DC was here, I'm sure they could get the exact production if not better from this group of defensive players. Add Blache's lack of tact in dealing with media and anyone else...NO THANKS!!!

 

[TankRizzo]

I assume you guys saw that Jack Del Rio of the Jags cut two guys yesterday who f'ed up important plays the day before. Anyone think that ANY Redskin is in jeopardy of getting cut for poor performance Sunday?

Marcus Mason is pretty much the only cuttable person that even comes to mind. Every other position is either locked down with a lofty contract or at a position we're so thin at we wouldn't dream of cutting them.