***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I'm pretty sure in the PreGame Show before last night's MNF tilt, that Adam Schefter reported the same thing. They did a 5-minute or so segment on the state of the Redskins, and I think at the tail end of that, Adam mentioned the sighting of the plane in Denver, but that his sources with the inside scoop were adamant that it had nothing to do with Shanahan, but rather Snyder's other business pursuits...we'll see, I guess.

That what they say until we lose to the Bucs, then all of a sudden...WAH BAM!!!! Here comes Skeletor!!!!

If Skeletor gets the nod, look for the Redskins to draft a RB with their first pick so he can swap out Portis, Betts, New Guy and perhas a Free Agent from week to week!

M

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Skeletor always finds talent later in the draft for RB spots. His only higher picks in the 2nd round were Portis and then Bell to replace Portis...after they got Champ Bailey to boot. Skeletor is infamous for finding talented runners that gain over 1,000 yds later in draft.

Andre Anderson, Tulane

 

[MikeApf]

I'm pretty sure in the PreGame Show before last night's MNF tilt, that Adam Schefter reported the same thing. They did a 5-minute or so segment on the state of the Redskins, and I think at the tail end of that, Adam mentioned the sighting of the plane in Denver, but that his sources with the inside scoop were adamant that it had nothing to do with Shanahan, but rather Snyder's other business pursuits...we'll see, I guess.

That what they say until we lose to the Bucs, then all of a sudden...WAH BAM!!!! Here comes Skeletor!!!!

If Skeletor gets the nod, look for the Redskins to draft a RB with their first pick so he can swap out Portis, Betts, New Guy and perhas a Free Agent from week to week!

M

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Skeletor always finds talent later in the draft for RB spots. His only higher picks in the 2nd round were Portis and then Bell to replace Portis...after they got Champ Bailey to boot. Skeletor is infamous for finding talented runners that gain over 1,000 yds later in draft.

Agreed. As long as it is anyone but Cerrato making those pics, it's bound to be an improvement.

 

[Sebowski]

All of this really blows.

This is just patchwork again to me. I want something brand new. We will FAIL AGAIN!!!!

Wasn't Zorn suppose to be that something brand new? Are we giving up too early on him? Just trying to see it from a different angle. For the most part I agree with fatness that it looks like Zorn id in over his head.

How could that be the case with most of the coaching staff and key players being holdovers from Gibbs, and with no real say in personnel matters or (apparently) the hiring and firing of coaches? Zorn is the Redskins version of Wade Phillips, only with less weight and experience.

I did say I was trying.I wish Zorn would have overhauled the staff. He was very careful not to undermine what Gibbs had done. I'm not shure what the reaction would have been if he got rid of everyone and changed it completely.

Just listened to most of the Portis interview on 980.com

He is remaining optimistic and has Zorn's back. He really feels they are going to get it right soon. Made me feel a little better. When it gets re-capped I'll post it. Should be archived by tomorrow.

 

[Sebowski]

Look, Snyder ain't going anywhere. His franchise is worth $1.5BILLION, so why would he?But I could see Shanahan saying "if you want me, then Vinny goes". And know what, I bet Danny agrees.

Vinny and are good friends though. Shanny would diminish his role as VP, but probably keep him on as VP.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Look, Snyder ain't going anywhere. His franchise is worth $1.5BILLION, so why would he?But I could see Shanahan saying "if you want me, then Vinny goes". And know what, I bet Danny agrees.

Vinny and are good friends though. Shanny would diminish his role as VP, but probably keep him on as VP.

Agreed and that is why it really works. I can see Shanny wanting authority over Vinny in final say though.

 

[dgreen]

Zorn also disagreed with cornerback Carlos Rogers, who said the team lacks an identity on both sides of the ball. In the past, they've been a team that runs well and stops the run. This year they're 24th in rushing and 21st stopping it; they moved the ball better in a power-I formation Sunday."We lost a game and after a big loss like that, I can imagine there are a lot of things that go through guys' minds," Zorn said. "And that is a thought. I don't have that thought."

The follow-up questions to Zorn should be: "OK, then what are your offensive and defensive identities?"

 

[Bizkiteer]

Zorn also disagreed with cornerback Carlos Rogers, who said the team lacks an identity on both sides of the ball. In the past, they've been a team that runs well and stops the run. This year they're 24th in rushing and 21st stopping it; they moved the ball better in a power-I formation Sunday."We lost a game and after a big loss like that, I can imagine there are a lot of things that go through guys' minds," Zorn said. "And that is a thought. I don't have that thought."

The follow-up questions to Zorn should be: "OK, then what are your offensive and defensive identities?"

 

[fatness]

A refreshing look at a coach that knows how to win...

from Peter King on SI.com

Late Sunday afternoon, Detroit coach Jim Schwartz and his rookie quarterback, Matthew Stafford, found themselves alone on an elevator leaving Ford Field after the Lions' 19-14 win over Washington. There were many things Schwartz could have said -- how great it was to break a 19-game Lions losing streak, how cool it was for a downtrodden city, how proud he was for both them on their first NFL victory. But this is what Schwartz chose to say:

"Don't you ever go conservative on me.''

"I won't, coach,'' said Stafford.

That's awesome.

 

[fatness]

Larry Weisman won't be able to keep his job for the Redskins if he keeps up with this stuff:

I would like to see a little anger somewhere. If the Redskins don't know it -- and I don't know how they could not -- they are the NFL's new mullets. The slaps. The team to abuse. Is there no pride? No sense of what it means to be a part of this team? ... I drove in listening to Joe Theismann's radio show and I hate to bark up Joe's tree but he says this sort of performance should have been expected (1-2, a loss to Detroit???) because the Redskins are still building and are "a work in progress." Ah, no. Fifth-year QB. Old RB. O-line veteran, if not old, from LT to C. Vet TE. 12-year guy at MLB. DLs who creak. When the season began the Redskins had the OLDEST roster in the NFL, not the youngest. So I'm not buying what Joe is selling there. This team has enough veterans. What it lacks is heart, speed and quickness, not necessarily in that order but that's not a bad order to start with.

It is time for a change in Washington unless Daniel Snyder really wants the 1st pick in the draft in 2010. We as fans need to stand up and let our voices be heard and let Daniel Snyder , Coach Zorn and the team that enough is enough!

You probably saw it. There's no excusing it. No wishing it away. Detroit 19, your Washington Redskins 14. I would not accept any of this wishy-washy nonsense about "all the things we did well" and how good a team Detroit is. I would demand answers. I would demand pressure on the QB if the defense has to blitz 11 men. I would demand excellence from the o-line. I would not ask for anything of these things from the players if I were king of the forest. I would demand them. And I would not ask for things from the other coaches. I would demand them. But that's just me. ... Well, bad football really frosts my Cheerios. The Redskins are about as bad as I have ever seen playing defense on third downs. And their attempts to pressure the passer are pathetic (say that three times fast). Terrible tackling. Inexcusable. Very poor showing in losing to this team in front of about 20,000 empty seats

Larry Weisman's blog

 

[fatness]

My NFL Team Loyalty for Sale, on ebay

After years of constantly being subjected to disappointment, bad decisions, bad draft picks,bad contracts, overpriced tickets and overall Mediocrity, I am deciding to sell my loyalty to the Washington Redskins for the rest of the 2009- 2010 NFL season. I will sell my "fan-ship" and support any of 30 teams.. Notice, I didn't say 31, because, I under no circumstances will I EVER root for the Dallas Cowboys.The Winning Bidder will get my undivided, unwavering support for their team for the rest of the season. SInce I have the Direct TV NFL Superfan Package, I will watch my new team's games and will cheer wholeheartedly for victory on sundays, even if it mean against my beloved redskins.. I will also support by purchasing the teams merchandise, including, but not limited to Jerseys, hats, flags and other team apparel. I will take pictures of myself in my new teams gear and send them to the winning big. Happy Bidding and good luck

Current bid: US $10,100.00

 

[fatness]

Dan Steinberg's blog

A Craigslist ad he found:

1 ticket to see the only team in 20 games to get beaten by the Detroit Lions! I realize this is a terrible time to try to sell this ticket, but I'm going to be out of the country. I couldn't even get my own brother to take this ticket - that's how bad this situation is. If you are a Redskins fan, you have the awesome opportunity to see the offense stall out in the red zone multiple times and the defense literally fall over trying to catch receivers LIVE! If you're a Bucs fan, you're likely to see your team get its first win this season. I don't discriminate - I'll sell it to whoever. It's $80, face value (only because I need to make back a little of the $1000 I paid for season tickets this year - thanks Danny!) but I realize that may be a bit of a stretch, so if you make a decent offer (not $1, even though I'm sure that's all it's worth) I'll throw the ticket your way....Go Redskins...? No wait, Go Caps. Yeah, that's better.

And from Riggins:

There are team specific issues for sure and some individual issues for sure but the owner ultimately is a loser and you can't fix that

 

[TankRizzo]

I wish Zorn would have overhauled the staff. He was very careful not to undermine what Gibbs Snyder had done. I'm not shure what the reaction would have been if he got rid of everyone and changed it completely.

Zorn didn't care what Gibbs had done, he didn't even know the team colors when he came here, I doubt he knows or cares how important Gibbs was/is to the 'skins. We heard so much about "continuity" while Gibbs was here and that was all flushed down the toilet, and IMO Snyder simply eliminated all of the personalities in the coaching staff who would stand up to his and Vinny's BS. Gregg and Al got the boot ASAP, Zorn was the braintrust's "smart" hire for OC...then when they realized nobody with any credentials to be a HC would have the lack of dignity to come into a place where his staff was already chosen and Zorn became the defacto HC. Blache has that cranky old man vibe, but I don't think he'd rock the boat and question the captain of the Titanic here, and Zorn I think would gladly move his desk into the hall next to Robiskie if he was told to do it.The smart thing for Zorn would have been to hire a veteran OC to help him along. I respect him for honoring the promise to Smith, but I think the error of that is pretty apparent.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Sporting News Today put out their weekly NFL power poll yesterday. The Redskins fell 6 spots from #22 to #28, only ahead of the Bucs, Browns, Chiefs and Rams. Sounds about right. And with 2 games within the next 3 weeks against teams below us, there's nowhere to go but down, right?

 

[Sidewinder16]

O'Halloran

*Detroit's 18-play drive to finish the first half was the longest allowed in Greg Blache's 19-game tenure as defensive play-caller. The Redskins' defense has been on the field for three 10-plus play drives in each of the first three games. That happened only once last year (Week 1 at the Giants).

 

[TankRizzo]

O'Halloran

*Detroit's 18-play drive to finish the first half was the longest allowed in Greg Blache's 19-game tenure as defensive play-caller. The Redskins' defense has been on the field for three 10-plus play drives in each of the first three games. That happened only once last year (Week 1 at the Giants).

Blache ain't perfect and I won't shed any tears if he's an offseason casualty, but I can't get behind any of the venom towards him (especially on Extremeskins), calling for his head mid-season. He at least has a history to fall back on and he does hold the opponents to relatively low scores...but right now, he ain't THE problem.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

O'Halloran

*Detroit's 18-play drive to finish the first half was the longest allowed in Greg Blache's 19-game tenure as defensive play-caller. The Redskins' defense has been on the field for three 10-plus play drives in each of the first three games. That happened only once last year (Week 1 at the Giants).

Blache ain't perfect and I won't shed any tears if he's an offseason casualty, but I can't get behind any of the venom towards him (especially on Extremeskins), calling for his head mid-season. He at least has a history to fall back on and he does hold the opponents to relatively low scores...but right now, he ain't THE problem.

I don't know. The inability in three straight games to get off the field on third downs is a pretty damn big problem if you ask me. Second to that is the inability to get pass rush pressure despite now having the personnel to do that. This defense is worse than last year, and I still can't figure out why.

 

[Marvelous]

A refreshing look at a coach that knows how to win...

from Peter King on SI.com

Late Sunday afternoon, Detroit coach Jim Schwartz and his rookie quarterback, Matthew Stafford, found themselves alone on an elevator leaving Ford Field after the Lions' 19-14 win over Washington. There were many things Schwartz could have said -- how great it was to break a 19-game Lions losing streak, how cool it was for a downtrodden city, how proud he was for both them on their first NFL victory. But this is what Schwartz chose to say:

"Don't you ever go conservative on me.''

"I won't, coach,'' said Stafford.

One thought: two offseasons ago, Snyder and Cerrato waited until after the Super Bowl and then interviewed Schwartz. Schwartz took himself out of consideration. The follwoing year, the Lions, who are perienial losers, hire Schwartz. This is with a new front office with no experience running the club. This shows just how undesirable the Redskins HC job is. As long as Snyder/Cerrato are the GM, it will be hard to get a HC with any name or potential.

 

[Marvelous]

One other thought: Most GMs get a mulligan if they hire a bad coach on their first try. Some, like Matt Millen, get 3 tries. Since Zorn was Vinny's first shot as the GM, I suspect Snyder will give Vinny another shot.

 

[TankRizzo]

I don't know. The inability in three straight games to get off the field on third downs is a pretty damn big problem if you ask me. Second to that is the inability to get pass rush pressure despite now having the personnel to do that.

This defense is worse than last year, and I still can't figure out why.

I think that's more to the fact that we're watching the entire TEAM unravel. Week 1 they held the Giants to 1 TD. As things have gotten uglier and it's more and more apparent that they can't rely on the offense to do ANYTHING, we've seen the wind taken out of their sails. But again, Blache's complete lack of any kind of pressure and the secondary are in fact problems, but getting on Blache over 1 game when Zorn can't get his team up to score on the Lions or the Rams....the D isn't the problem.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

A refreshing look at a coach that knows how to win...

from Peter King on SI.com

Late Sunday afternoon, Detroit coach Jim Schwartz and his rookie quarterback, Matthew Stafford, found themselves alone on an elevator leaving Ford Field after the Lions' 19-14 win over Washington. There were many things Schwartz could have said -- how great it was to break a 19-game Lions losing streak, how cool it was for a downtrodden city, how proud he was for both them on their first NFL victory. But this is what Schwartz chose to say:

"Don't you ever go conservative on me.''

"I won't, coach,'' said Stafford.

One thought: two offseasons ago, Snyder and Cerrato waited until after the Super Bowl and then interviewed Schwartz. Schwartz took himself out of consideration. The follwoing year, the Lions, who are perienial losers, hire Schwartz. This is with a new front office with no experience running the club. This shows just how undesirable the Redskins HC job is. As long as Snyder/Cerrato are the GM, it will be hard to get a HC with any name or potential.

I thought the same thing. Ditto Spagnuolo who, in addition to going to a team at the bottom of the heap, also opted for an uncertain ownership situation. There's only one reason for the 'Skins head coaching job to be inferior given the resources that the team has, its history and its fan base, and the overall prestige of the job and the high profile of the division it plays in: ownership and the management it has put in place. No ambitious coach with any career sense wants to throw in with a team that won't let him even have basic levels of control over his coaching staff and input on personnel. It's pathetic.

 

[dgreen]

A refreshing look at a coach that knows how to win...

from Peter King on SI.com

Late Sunday afternoon, Detroit coach Jim Schwartz and his rookie quarterback, Matthew Stafford, found themselves alone on an elevator leaving Ford Field after the Lions' 19-14 win over Washington. There were many things Schwartz could have said -- how great it was to break a 19-game Lions losing streak, how cool it was for a downtrodden city, how proud he was for both them on their first NFL victory. But this is what Schwartz chose to say:

"Don't you ever go conservative on me.''

"I won't, coach,'' said Stafford.

One thought: two offseasons ago, Snyder and Cerrato waited until after the Super Bowl and then interviewed Schwartz. Schwartz took himself out of consideration. The follwoing year, the Lions, who are perienial losers, hire Schwartz. This is with a new front office with no experience running the club. This shows just how undesirable the Redskins HC job is. As long as Snyder/Cerrato are the GM, it will be hard to get a HC with any name or potential.

I thought the same thing. Ditto Spagnuolo who, in addition to going to a team at the bottom of the heap, also opted for an uncertain ownership situation. There's only one reason for the 'Skins head coaching job to be inferior given the resources that the team has, its history and its fan base, and the overall prestige of the job and the high profile of the division it plays in: ownership and the management it has put in place. No ambitious coach with any career sense wants to throw in with a team that won't let him even have basic levels of control over his coaching staff and input on personnel. It's pathetic.

And it used to be that Snyder could talk (pay?) people into joining this mess. Marty said he'd never work for someone like Snyder, yet Snyder somehow got him to DC. Snyder did what we all thought was impossible and got Gibbs to return to football. We've thought, "Sure, this organization is a mess. But, man, Snyder's such a great salesman that he can get anyone to come here." That may no longer be the case.

 

[buster c]

found this link on the Czabe's blog:

Jim Zorn - worst hire ever

You can file this one under "Prediction of the Decade."

Rarely to you find sportswriters who quickly, and definitively crush a new NFL coaching hire. For one, writers always want to preserve some shred of access in case the guy is good. For another, who the hell knows if a guy can do the job? (I remember distinctly the mocking of Andy Reid when he was hired by Philly. That seems to have worked out pretty well.)

Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News, authored this column on the Skins hiring of Zorn back in February of 2008. It's so dead on, it reads like he filed the column yesterday from the back seat of Dan Snyder's limo.

Wrote Kawakami....

I talked to Zorn when he was first getting into coaching on the Seahawks staff and I can tell you that, if first impressions mean anything–and they do–I walked away from that interview thinking, This guy shouldn’t be anywhere near an NFL sideline.

He was a very good QB, undoubtedly. But he was known as a non-thinking QB even when he played. Total instinct. He never was considered a coach-candidate.

He took a bunch of years away from football when he retired… then he got back with the Seahawks and apparently became buddy-buddy with Matt Hasselbeck.

But who do you think coaches the QBs, really, in Seattle? Zorn or Mike Holmgren? Come on. The Zorn I talked to was over-emotional, antsy, defensive and very short on the ability to communicate general NFL knowledge–and I was just doing a soft story on the Seahawks during the off-season, so it wasn’t like I was plumbing the depths of intricate analysis.

REACT: Good, gawd. "Over-emotional, antsy, and defensive" are dead on. The phrase "shouldn't be anywhere near a sideline" is chilling. Because he's not just near our sideline, HE'S ON IT!!!

 

[Marvelous]

Here's one of the problems I sensed from the interview process. When Snyder first bought the team, he asked Charley Casserly about acquiring a certain player (forgot who it was). Casserly said it was a bad idea (not sure if it was talent based or cap based for his reasonoing). So Casserly is fired. Norv Turner is asked what he thinks. He always said it's a good idea. Norv coaches for many more years.

In the last head coaching search, two question that were reportedly asked of every candidate: Can you develop Jason Campbell and what do you think of trading for Chad Johnson. If someone answered that Campbell as not the qb of the future or Chad Johnson was a bad idea, they were probably not seriously considered for the job. Snyder and Cerrato were looking for someone who agrees with them, not someone who may reach a different conclustion than they do.

 

[TankRizzo]

found this link on the Czabe's blog:

Jim Zorn - worst hire ever

WOW.......just....WOW.....I don't even know what to say. Can we get this guy to sit in on coaching interviews in the future? :X

 

[dgreen]

The Zorn I talked to was over-emotional, antsy, defensive and very short on the ability to communicate general NFL knowledge–and I was just doing a soft story on the Seahawks during the off-season, so it wasn’t like I was plumbing the depths of intricate analysis.

I think Chris Knoche made a good point yesterday about this. To be fair to Zorn, he may sound one way in an interview with media than he does in a locker room, on the practice field, or on the sideline during a game. I agree he sounds like a bumbling idiot in interviews and in press conferences. But, that glimpse we got of him being mic-ed up against St. Louis doesn't lead me to believe that he lacks "the ability to communicate general NFL knowledge" to his players. Now, I'll fully admit that he not be very good at it compared to other NFL coaches. But, to just assume he can't communicate based off interviews is kind of silly.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Here's one of the problems I sensed from the interview process. When Snyder first bought the team, he asked Charley Casserly about acquiring a certain player (forgot who it was). Casserly said it was a bad idea (not sure if it was talent based or cap based for his reasonoing). So Casserly is fired. Norv Turner is asked what he thinks. He always said it's a good idea. Norv coaches for many more years.In the last head coaching search, two question that were reportedly asked of every candidate: Can you develop Jason Campbell and what do you think of trading for Chad Johnson. If someone answered that Campbell as not the qb of the future or Chad Johnson was a bad idea, they were probably not seriously considered for the job. Snyder and Cerrato were looking for someone who agrees with them, not someone who may reach a different conclustion than they do.

I don't know that I agree with you on either point. Casserly was fired because he was quickly identified by Snyder as someone who couldn't co-exist or work successfully with Norv, a determination that I've never heard anyone take issue with. Snyder gained control of the team relatively late in the year, like June or July IIRC, which is too late for a head coaching change so the only reasonable choice was to fire Casserly. Snyder has since told Casserly that the decision was a mistake, but I assume that he means that longer term as opposed to his short-term decision making. As for the development of Campbell, I see Campbell as being very much of a Gibbs choice. I've never sensed that Campbell was favored by this front office regime, so making the hire purely tied to Campbell doesn't make much sense to me. Snyderrato may have been looking for a yes-man - that I agree with - but I doubt that Campbell was a centerpiece in that analysis.

 

[dgreen]

Here's one of the problems I sensed from the interview process. When Snyder first bought the team, he asked Charley Casserly about acquiring a certain player (forgot who it was). Casserly said it was a bad idea (not sure if it was talent based or cap based for his reasonoing). So Casserly is fired. Norv Turner is asked what he thinks. He always said it's a good idea. Norv coaches for many more years.In the last head coaching search, two question that were reportedly asked of every candidate: Can you develop Jason Campbell and what do you think of trading for Chad Johnson. If someone answered that Campbell as not the qb of the future or Chad Johnson was a bad idea, they were probably not seriously considered for the job. Snyder and Cerrato were looking for someone who agrees with them, not someone who may reach a different conclustion than they do.

I don't know that I agree with you on either point. Casserly was fired because he was quickly identified by Snyder as someone who couldn't co-exist or work successfully with Norv, a determination that I've never heard anyone take issue with. Snyder gained control of the team relatively late in the year, like June or July IIRC, which is too late for a head coaching change so the only reasonable choice was to fire Casserly. Snyder has since told Casserly that the decision was a mistake, but I assume that he means that longer term as opposed to his short-term decision making.

That's the story I've heard too. I've never heard anything about there being a player Casserly nixed, leading to his firing.

As for the development of Campbell, I see Campbell as being very much of a Gibbs choice. I've never sensed that Campbell was favored by this front office regime, so making the hire purely tied to Campbell doesn't make much sense to me. Snyderrato may have been looking for a yes-man - that I agree with - but I doubt that Campbell was a centerpiece in that analysis.

This I agree with Marvelous. There were plenty of reports that Campbell was a major topic of discussion during the interview process. I remember hearing that from Zorn and Fassel and I'm thinking a few others, too. Now, I don't remember any candidate saying what the discussion was, just that it was about Campbell. I don't know if it was either positive or negative. But, I'd guess Snyderatto only accepted candidates who agreed with them regarding Campbell.

 

[TankRizzo]

The Zorn I talked to was over-emotional, antsy, defensive and very short on the ability to communicate general NFL knowledge–and I was just doing a soft story on the Seahawks during the off-season, so it wasn’t like I was plumbing the depths of intricate analysis.

I think Chris Knoche made a good point yesterday about this. To be fair to Zorn, he may sound one way in an interview with media than he does in a locker room, on the practice field, or on the sideline during a game. I agree he sounds like a bumbling idiot in interviews and in press conferences. But, that glimpse we got of him being mic-ed up against St. Louis doesn't lead me to believe that he lacks "the ability to communicate general NFL knowledge" to his players. Now, I'll fully admit that he not be very good at it compared to other NFL coaches. But, to just assume he can't communicate based off interviews is kind of silly.

If he sounds like a bumbling idiot in interviews....then how/why the hell was he hired?wait...don't answer that

 

[dgreen]

The Zorn I talked to was over-emotional, antsy, defensive and very short on the ability to communicate general NFL knowledge–and I was just doing a soft story on the Seahawks during the off-season, so it wasn’t like I was plumbing the depths of intricate analysis.

I think Chris Knoche made a good point yesterday about this. To be fair to Zorn, he may sound one way in an interview with media than he does in a locker room, on the practice field, or on the sideline during a game. I agree he sounds like a bumbling idiot in interviews and in press conferences. But, that glimpse we got of him being mic-ed up against St. Louis doesn't lead me to believe that he lacks "the ability to communicate general NFL knowledge" to his players. Now, I'll fully admit that he not be very good at it compared to other NFL coaches. But, to just assume he can't communicate based off interviews is kind of silly.

If he sounds like a bumbling idiot in interviews....then how/why the hell was he hired?wait...don't answer that

I'm just referring to media interviews. As much as we like to bash Vinny, he knows much more about football than the media and maybe Zorn could easily talk with him.Personally, I can't stand talking about certain things with people I believe aren't on my level. Especially when they ask stupid questions which I'm sure the media does often.

 

[Billy Bonds]

Just listened to most of the Portis interview on 980.com

He is remaining optimistic and has Zorn's back. He really feels they are going to get it right soon. Made me feel a little better. When it gets re-capped I'll post it. Should be archived by tomorrow.

soundbites possibly from the above interview...http://twitter.com/RickMaese

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Just listened to most of the Portis interview on 980.com

He is remaining optimistic and has Zorn's back. He really feels they are going to get it right soon. Made me feel a little better. When it gets re-capped I'll post it. Should be archived by tomorrow.

soundbites possibly from the above interview...http://twitter.com/RickMaese

Good, so we're safe for one more week from a Portis meltdown. Stay tuned.

 

[dgreen]

Just listened to most of the Portis interview on 980.com

He is remaining optimistic and has Zorn's back. He really feels they are going to get it right soon. Made me feel a little better. When it gets re-capped I'll post it. Should be archived by tomorrow.

soundbites possibly from the above interview...http://twitter.com/RickMaese

As I said in the Portis thread, I'm glad to hear the ankles are doing better. But, predictions of 3 TDs and 150 yards are just talk until we see a huge change in this offense.

 

[dgreen]

Anyone see Sherman Smith's weekly interview on CSN last night? He tends to rub me the wrong way. Last night he basically said they don't adjust their playcalling based on who is on the field. That seems stupid to me. I just don't like the "We have what we have" and "We're gonna call our offense" comments from the coaching staff. Gibbs took so much heat for taking all the blame for everything, but it would be nice if this staff would do that more often.

You can see it here.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Anyone listening to the Lavar show. The begining was efffing great. Singing over 8mile words

 

[Bizkiteer]

Just listened to most of the Portis interview on 980.com

He is remaining optimistic and has Zorn's back. He really feels they are going to get it right soon. Made me feel a little better. When it gets re-capped I'll post it. Should be archived by tomorrow.

soundbites possibly from the above interview...http://twitter.com/RickMaese

As I said in the Portis thread, I'm glad to hear the ankles are doing better. But, predictions of 3 TDs and 150 yards are just talk until we see a huge change in this offense.

For 150 yards...is he going to have to carry the ball 50 times. Can we actually hold onto the ball that long on that many drives where he can get 50 carries to get that 150 yds???? Wow that will be impressive!!!!

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

My Man is back

Part 2

 

[Bizkiteer]

Anyone see Sherman Smith's weekly interview on CSN last night? He tends to rub me the wrong way. Last night he basically said they don't adjust their playcalling based on who is on the field. That seems stupid to me. I just don't like the "We have what we have" and "We're gonna call our offense" comments from the coaching staff. Gibbs took so much heat for taking all the blame for everything, but it would be nice if this staff would do that more often.

You can see it here.

They don't seem to make any adustments at all...in changing plays to gameplan. Not too surprising as it looks like we always run right to where the defense has it main group of players set up. There is this thing, it's call an audible...you can even do it in the Madden video game.

 

[Sebowski]

Zorn on Haynesworth's strain:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...s-only-a-s.html

"It's keeping him from working laterally," Zorn said. "But I suspect by the end of the week he'll be out to practice."

Any other coach reveal what the exact limitations of a star player are? If Zorn was anywhere near the Patriots and said something like that Bellichek would fire him on the spot.

Zorn should just send the Bucs our playbook while he is at it.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Zorn on Haynesworth's strain:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...s-only-a-s.html

"It's keeping him from working laterally," Zorn said. "But I suspect by the end of the week he'll be out to practice."

Any other coach reveal what the exact limitations of a star player are? If Zorn was anywhere near the Patriots and said something like that Bellichek would fire him on the spot.

Zorn should just send the Bucs our playbook while he is at it.

This Zorn guy acts like reporters are his BFF's.

 

[Sebowski]

Zorn on Haynesworth's strain:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...s-only-a-s.html

"It's keeping him from working laterally," Zorn said. "But I suspect by the end of the week he'll be out to practice."

Any other coach reveal what the exact limitations of a star player are? If Zorn was anywhere near the Patriots and said something like that Bellichek would fire him on the spot.

Zorn should just send the Bucs our playbook while he is at it.

This Zorn guy acts like reporters are his BFF's.

Wouldn't it be great if the reporter followed that up by asking "why the hell would you tell me that?"

 

[Chiwawa]

I know I'm not supposed to venture into this thread, for penalty of death, but I had nowhere else to put this:

I recently switched jobs, and went into work on my day off to drop off some paperwork wearing a cowboys shirt. My boss sees me and rolls his eyes at my shirt. After informing me he is a redskins fan, the conversation went like this:

Me: Wow, thank God I already got the job!

boss: It's not too late, you know.[hint of sarcasm]

Me: oh....um.....I thought your organization was....um.....very classy to let the lions win a game?

boss:

Me: Do I still have a job?

boss: Call me before coming in.

No hint of sarcasm. Not sure if he was serious or not...

 

[Sebowski]

I know I'm not supposed to venture into this thread, for penalty of death, but I had nowhere else to put this:I recently switched jobs, and went into work on my day off to drop off some paperwork wearing a cowboys shirt. My boss sees me and rolls his eyes at my shirt. After informing me he is a redskins fan, the conversation went like this:Me: Wow, thank God I already got the job!boss: It's not too late, you know.[hint of sarcasm]Me: oh....um.....I thought your organization was....um.....very classy to let the lions win a game?boss: Me: Do I still have a job?boss: Call me before coming in.No hint of sarcasm. Not sure if he was serious or not...

I work with a lot of vendors. One day one of them came in wearing a cowboy hat and hoodie. I started getting bidding out his products right away.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I know I'm not supposed to venture into this thread, for penalty of death, but I had nowhere else to put this:I recently switched jobs, and went into work on my day off to drop off some paperwork wearing a cowboys shirt. My boss sees me and rolls his eyes at my shirt. After informing me he is a redskins fan, the conversation went like this:Me: Wow, thank God I already got the job!boss: It's not too late, you know.[hint of sarcasm]Me: oh....um.....I thought your organization was....um.....very classy to let the lions win a game?boss: Me: Do I still have a job?boss: Call me before coming in.No hint of sarcasm. Not sure if he was serious or not...

Let's just say that now is not the time as a Cowboys fan to be screwing with Redskins fans who have the power to fire you.

 

[thayman]

Anyone see Sherman Smith's weekly interview on CSN last night? He tends to rub me the wrong way. Last night he basically said they don't adjust their playcalling based on who is on the field. That seems stupid to me. I just don't like the "We have what we have" and "We're gonna call our offense" comments from the coaching staff. Gibbs took so much heat for taking all the blame for everything, but it would be nice if this staff would do that more often.

You can see it here.

They aren't taking the blame because they know they are done at the end of the year. Normally I am a fan of staying the course and keeping continuity but I want everyone gone. I want the whole structure fired.

 

[Marvelous]

Anyone see Sherman Smith's weekly interview on CSN last night? He tends to rub me the wrong way. Last night he basically said they don't adjust their playcalling based on who is on the field. That seems stupid to me. I just don't like the "We have what we have" and "We're gonna call our offense" comments from the coaching staff. Gibbs took so much heat for taking all the blame for everything, but it would be nice if this staff would do that more often.

You can see it here.

They don't seem to make any adustments at all...in changing plays to gameplan. Not too surprising as it looks like we always run right to where the defense has it main group of players set up. There is this thing, it's call an audible...you can even do it in the Madden video game.

The problem is the Redskins don't have any confidence runnig to the right or straight ahead. The other teams know this too. So on crucial running downs, they overload the left side, knowing that where the running play is going.

 

[Marvelous]

Anyone see Sherman Smith's weekly interview on CSN last night? He tends to rub me the wrong way. Last night he basically said they don't adjust their playcalling based on who is on the field. That seems stupid to me. I just don't like the "We have what we have" and "We're gonna call our offense" comments from the coaching staff. Gibbs took so much heat for taking all the blame for everything, but it would be nice if this staff would do that more often.

You can see it here.

They aren't taking the blame because they know they are done at the end of the year. Normally I am a fan of staying the course and keeping continuity but I want everyone gone. I want the whole structure fired.

Continuity is good IF what you have is worth keeping and building on. If Zorn is not the coach of the future, they need to replace him this offseason. No sense in having another year of mediocrity just for continuity. Actually, mediocrity is looking pretty good right now, but that may set the bar too high for this team.

 

[fatness]

Continuity is good IF what you have is worth keeping and building on.

Good point there. I had food poisoning, had the heaves continuously. It wasn't good.

 

[fatness]

Good god, man, just give it up. Next year he'll be out for the season after being grievously injured on the coin flip.

His triceps muscle surgically repaired, Redskins RG Randy Thomas said he hasn't thought about his future, only that it includes him playing in 2010.

Link

 

[TankRizzo]

Continuity is good IF what you have is worth keeping and building on. If Zorn is not the coach of the future, they need to replace him this offseason. No sense in having another year of mediocrity just for continuity. Actually, mediocrity is looking pretty good right now, but that may set the bar too high for this team.

The mediocrity was getting really old though. Coming up 8-8, drafting in the teens every year and plugging in the newest FA in hopes of getting to 10-6 (and always falling short) was getting so redundant and unfulfilled. A meltdown is much needed and long overdue, and I actually said it last year during the coaching search that turned up Zorn. Actually, I said it after Vinny got his latest promotion. 8-8 keeps him employed year to year, if we're ever going to be rid of him we just need to scrap the whole damn thing, purge him and the dead weight and re-build the right way.

 

[buster c]

Anyone see Sherman Smith's weekly interview on CSN last night? He tends to rub me the wrong way. Last night he basically said they don't adjust their playcalling based on who is on the field. That seems stupid to me. I just don't like the "We have what we have" and "We're gonna call our offense" comments from the coaching staff. Gibbs took so much heat for taking all the blame for everything, but it would be nice if this staff would do that more often.

You can see it here.

They don't seem to make any adustments at all...in changing plays to gameplan. Not too surprising as it looks like we always run right to where the defense has it main group of players set up. There is this thing, it's call an audible...you can even do it in the Madden video game.

The problem is the Redskins don't have any confidence runnig to the right or straight ahead. The other teams know this too. So on crucial running downs, they overload the left side, knowing that where the running play is going.

somebody mentioned it earlier I think, but watching on TV, most of us know from the formation whether the play call is a run or a pass. it seems to me that the need for an audible would be lessened if there was even minimal pre-snap motion. Every time I see some other team fake a WR reverse only to run the ball straight up the gut for positive yardage, I wonder why that is not in our playbook. My well-trained eyes are always taking a peek to see if the WR has the ball. imagine what a Lion LB would have done. check the 4th down Portis failed goal line run again...the right side of the formation begged for a motion man to go in motion to blast a LB.

Then you've got Randal El - a former Big 10 QB - who is ready made to run the wild cat, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

miserable failures abound

speaking of which - MeAngelo Hall just told team fluffer Larry Michael that he disagrees with London Fletcher and that this is a GREAT redskin team. Amazing.

And does JC recycle his material? I just heard him say - yet again - that 'we just need to go out there and have fun'

delusional.

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