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***Official 2013 NLCS Thread: St. Louis vs. Los Angeles (1 Viewer)

Eephus

Eephus

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2013 NLCS schedule

Game Date Site Time^

Game 1 Fri., Oct. 11 Busch Stadium 5 p.m.

Game 2 Sat., Oct. 12 Busch Stadium 1 p.m.

Game 3 Mon., Oct. 14 Dodger Stadium 5 p.m.

Game 4 Tue., Oct. 15 Dodger Stadium 5 p.m.

Game 5* Wed., Oct. 16 Dodger Stadium 1 p.m.

Game 6* Fri., Oct. 18 Busch Stadium TBD

Game 7* Sat., Oct. 19 Busch Stadium TBD

Greinke & Kershaw get the starts in St. Louis

 
This is going to be a difficult series for the Cards to pull out. It's almost a situation where homefield might play against them combined with having to use Wainwright for a game 5. Greinke and Kershaw can absolutely win both games here in St. Louis. The advantage of playing at home is negated by those 2. Falling behind 0-2 is a very real possibility. Then, while the pitching matchups for games 3 and 4 will favor St. Louis, it will be on the road, once again, negating that advantage. Throw in Kershaw at home in Game 5 and Greinke back in StL in game 6 if it gets there, there's a very good chance Wainwright pitches only one game this entire series.

Keys to Cards making it through:

1) Quite obvious, but they must win at least one of the first 2 games at home. If they fall behind 0-2, I think it's over. Game 5 is a lock for LA, IMO, much like Game 3 vs. Liriano at home was.

2) If they can make it out of StL at 1-1 and Wainwright can get the win in Game 3, then Game 4 becomes the key game of the series for so many reasons. In this scenario, winning this game would give them a 3-1 edge. Of course, this is also the game that we'll have to see who takes the mound: Shelby or Lynn (assuming it's Kelly and Wacha at home for the first 2). If LA can take that game and make it 2-2, then once again, the series may be decided before Wainwright can pitch again.

3) Again, pretty obvious, Wainwright must win game 3 no matter what happens. A loss in Game 3 spells disaster in pretty much any scenario save the Cards actually winning the first 2. Even then, it's dicey.

My prediction:

1) Game 1 to LA

2) Game 2 to StL

3) Game 3 to StL

4) Game 4 to LA in a close one

5) Game 5 to LA

6) ..........

I have a feeling this is going to be an absolutely classic, epic, never to be forgotten series.

 
It pains me as a National Leauge guy, but I can't root for either of these teams

On one hand you've got the team I hate more than my SIL, STL(although IMO, they are the best run organization in all of sports) And on the other hand you have the Yankee's of the Natioanal League.

It's called a no-win

Lets go American League.

 
gianmarco said:
This is going to be a difficult series for the Cards to pull out. It's almost a situation where homefield might play against them combined with having to use Wainwright for a game 5. Greinke and Kershaw can absolutely win both games here in St. Louis. The advantage of playing at home is negated by those 2. Falling behind 0-2 is a very real possibility. Then, while the pitching matchups for games 3 and 4 will favor St. Louis, it will be on the road, once again, negating that advantage. Throw in Kershaw at home in Game 5 and Greinke back in StL in game 6 if it gets there, there's a very good chance Wainwright pitches only one game this entire series.
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:confused:

Why wouldn't Wainwright pitch in Game 3 on normal rest? Rest Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun, Pitch Mon. And then it would be a question of whether to bring him back on 3 days if necessary for Game 6 or pitch a potential game 7 on normal rest.

 
Bob Sacamano said:
gianmarco said:
This is going to be a difficult series for the Cards to pull out. It's almost a situation where homefield might play against them combined with having to use Wainwright for a game 5. Greinke and Kershaw can absolutely win both games here in St. Louis. The advantage of playing at home is negated by those 2. Falling behind 0-2 is a very real possibility. Then, while the pitching matchups for games 3 and 4 will favor St. Louis, it will be on the road, once again, negating that advantage. Throw in Kershaw at home in Game 5 and Greinke back in StL in game 6 if it gets there, there's a very good chance Wainwright pitches only one game this entire series.
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:confused:

Why wouldn't Wainwright pitch in Game 3 on normal rest? Rest Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun, Pitch Mon. And then it would be a question of whether to bring him back on 3 days if necessary for Game 6 or pitch a potential game 7 on normal rest.
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n/m. I misread. I get what you were saying.

 
gianmarco said:
This is going to be a difficult series for the Cards to pull out. It's almost a situation where homefield might play against them combined with having to use Wainwright for a game 5. Greinke and Kershaw can absolutely win both games here in St. Louis. The advantage of playing at home is negated by those 2. Falling behind 0-2 is a very real possibility. Then, while the pitching matchups for games 3 and 4 will favor St. Louis, it will be on the road, once again, negating that advantage. Throw in Kershaw at home in Game 5 and Greinke back in StL in game 6 if it gets there, there's a very good chance Wainwright pitches only one game this entire series.

Keys to Cards making it through:

1) Quite obvious, but they must win at least one of the first 2 games at home. If they fall behind 0-2, I think it's over. Game 5 is a lock for LA, IMO, much like Game 3 vs. Liriano at home was.

2) If they can make it out of StL at 1-1 and Wainwright can get the win in Game 3, then Game 4 becomes the key game of the series for so many reasons. In this scenario, winning this game would give them a 3-1 edge. Of course, this is also the game that we'll have to see who takes the mound: Shelby or Lynn (assuming it's Kelly and Wacha at home for the first 2). If LA can take that game and make it 2-2, then once again, the series may be decided before Wainwright can pitch again.

3) Again, pretty obvious, Wainwright must win game 3 no matter what happens. A loss in Game 3 spells disaster in pretty much any scenario save the Cards actually winning the first 2. Even then, it's dicey.

My prediction:

1) Game 1 to LA

2) Game 2 to StL

3) Game 3 to StL

4) Game 4 to LA in a close one

5) Game 5 to LA

6) ..........

I have a feeling this is going to be an absolutely classic, epic, never to be forgotten series.
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Yup I'm not sure i like the matchups for the cards. I'll say dodgers in 6. The cards fans here have been very classy but I still can't root for them (they win too often). However, I can't root for the dodgers either.

 
I like the Dodgers here, simply due to Kershaw. Guy is easily best sp in baseball, and either him or Greinke should negate hfa for the cards.

Give me Dodgers in 5.

 
If it weren't for Kershaw, then I would heavily favor the Cardinals in this matchup. Unfortunately, there is Kershaw. We'll trade punches with them, but the way the rotations matchup negates the home field advantage. This has the makings of another NLCS classic. Maybe we can bring the Wiz out of retirement to bat lefthanded and jack one out of the park.

 
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guru_007 said:
I like the Dodgers here, simply due to Kershaw. Guy is easily best sp in baseball, and either him or Greinke should negate hfa for the cards.

Give me Dodgers in 5.
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In five? That's harsh, man.

 
I've lost track at how many series in the last 10 years the Cardinals supposedly were supposed to lose because the other team had the advantage when it came to starting pitching, yet the Cardinals still won - '04 against Houston; '06 against Detroit; '11 against Philly; 12 against Washington - it's what they do. That doesn't mean they will do it this time, but to call the Dodgers the favorite simply because of Greinke and Kershaw is ignoring recent history.

 
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The rotations and schedule certainly line up to give the Dodgers an opportunity to return home with a huge advantage. Hopefully the Cards are up to the task of at least splitting at home against Kershaw/Greinke.

 
Pretty questionable managerial moves by Mattingly in back to back innings. Pinch runs Gordon for AGone with no out, Puig up and Puig grounds into a force eliminting Gordon.

Then he pinch hits Schumacker for Greinke with no one on and 2 out in the 9th, when he could have maybe used Van Slyke. Now Schumacker a versitile player, is also out of a game that could go extras.

 
Would have been nice to have AGONE up there with runners at the corners and one out, but Mattingly took him out for a pinch runner. Only jonmx approves of that move.

 
So Michael Young who replaced AGONE has now batted twice with 4 runners on base, two in scoring position. He's made 4 outs. :mellow:

 
I still don't know how Gibby hit that HR against Eck in '88. The swing was all arms, and it went 40 rows deep.

Definitely a corked bat.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Pretty questionable managerial moves by Mattingly in back to back innings. Pinch runs Gordon for AGone with no out, Puig up and Puig grounds into a force eliminting Gordon.

Then he pinch hits Schumacker for Greinke with no one on and 2 out in the 9th, when he could have maybe used Van Slyke. Now Schumacker a versitile player, is also out of a game that could go extras.
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Piling on... Bunting Crawford to second gave Matheny an excuse to intentionally walk Hanley Ramirez and pitch to Gonzalez Young.

 
That was a great game. It'll be interesting to see if there's any carry over to tomorrow's today's game.

 
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