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[Doctor Detroit]

Seahawks would have easily got to the Super Bowl in 1984 had they had homefield, so that loss in week 16 at home to the Broncos was so devastating. I really didn't think anyone could have beaten them in Seattle that year, but John ####### Elway did it anyway. Terrible.

I was 15. Shed more than a few tears that year for Warner. How stupid powerful would that offense have been if he doesn't blow the knee? They might have been the greatest show on turf 15 years earlier than the Rams.

1983 to me was the most memorable season, even more so than 2005.

This is very true for me too. That was a special time. Maybe because of my age, but it was the beginning of the franchise being seriously competitive. I got to grow up with this team. Watched the highs and lows. Won't ever forget rooting for Mudbone. He was such a rags to riches story. Nobody believed in him. Milton college? Where the hell is that? How many times did we get to have that conversation?

The Warner injury was on a Monday night in week one vs Cleveland IIRC. It was like a 5 pm ET start and I remember hearing the news that evening (when sports news moved slowly). I always thought to myself, why the #### were they playing on Monday afternoon? Was there a concert? Can't think it was a baseball game because that would have been considered in scheduling. They would have went 15-1 with Warner, that was the best Seahawks team I've ever seen. Krieg and the defense were stout, my man Dan Doornick stood tall and did what he could. If only...

 

[Hooper31]

my man Dan Doornick stood tall and did what he could.

Have you ever heard Howie Long get interviewed on the subject of Doornink? Seattle kept running the same play over and over in the wildcard game, but the Raiders couldn't stop it. You can just see Howie was reliving the nightmare talking about it.

 

[proninja]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.

Also, it's a joke

 

[Alkahsu]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.

Also, it's a joke

#1 Pro Bowl snub"Most seasons, Sherman would be a candidate for NFL Defensive Player of the Year. It's an absolute joke that Patrick Peterson made the team over Sherman."

 

[devouredbychaos]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

Nah. It's a joke that he's actually still playing after getting caught taking PEDs. Adderall or not, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's taken more, this cheater deserves no credit.

 

[biju]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

Nah. It's a joke that he's actually still playing after getting caught taking PEDs. Adderall or not, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's taken more, this cheater deserves no credit.

How about wait for tomorrow to find out the outcome? Nobody is interested in due process here at all I guess....

 

[devouredbychaos]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

Nah. It's a joke that he's actually still playing after getting caught taking PEDs. Adderall or not, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's taken more, this cheater deserves no credit.

How about wait for tomorrow to find out the outcome? Nobody is interested in due process here at all I guess....

Nope.

 

[mdlane]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

 

[Alkahsu]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

Innocent until proven guilty and have you seen how he's played the last few weeks? He obviously doesn't need adderal to be one of the best CBs in the league.

 

[proninja]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

Yeah, the seahawks really needed him with those mail biters the last 3 weeks. If you think they needed him for any one of those three, he's dpoy. Also, do you not believe there should be an appeal process?

 

[mad sweeney]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

Nah. It's a joke that he's actually still playing after getting caught taking PEDs. Adderall or not, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's taken more, this cheater deserves no credit.

It's not a joke, it's called due process. It's in the CBA negotiated by the union. He has every right to an appeal and the time needed to prepare his defense. If his appeal fails, he will indeed miss the time.

 

[devouredbychaos]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

Innocent until proven guilty and have you seen how he's played the last few weeks? He obviously doesn't need adderal to be one of the best CBs in the league.

And who's to say he hasn't been taking anything else? Fact of the matter is he cheated to gain an advantage over an opponent and is still allowed to play. Why not just man up and accept the punishment instead of dragging it on? I mean if the Seahawks do somehow win the Super Bowl, you know it will be forever tainted because of this..right? *

 

[mad sweeney]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

Innocent until proven guilty and have you seen how he's played the last few weeks? He obviously doesn't need adderal to be one of the best CBs in the league.

And who's to say he hasn't been taking anything else? Fact of the matter is he cheated to gain an advantage over an opponent and is still allowed to play. Why not just man up and accept the punishment instead of dragging it on? I mean if the Seahawks do somehow win the Super Bowl, you know it will be forever tainted because of this..right? *

Who's to say anyone hasn't been taking anything else unless there's a positive test.? Until the appeal is ruled on, you can't honestly call him a cheater because it isn't fact. He actually has a decent case for his defense if indeed his sample was contaminated by an un-sterile container. That doesn't mean I believe him, my natural inclination is to not believe people who say they didn't do it. But he is allowed to play because he is allowed a defense. He'll serve the games if he owes them. I would be very surprised to find out that no previous SB winners had a player who was suspended during the season.

 

[Hooper31]

Sherman led the league in passes defensed, Opponents QB rating against, 2nd in int, 3FF, and 2 TDs.

Just from a statistical view this is one the greatest seasons ever by an NFL CB.

He is pissed off about it. His twitter account shows that. Will be interesting to see how he takes this snub in the long term. He has been a solid citizen in Seattle. He has made trips to children's hospital with Wilson. He was part of the team that took presents to needy families for Christmas. Hopefully he uses this snub to fuel his fire. Time will tell.

As far as people passing judgment on Sherman... Whatever. We know where that comes from. When there's a line full of people excited about casting the first stone it has more to do with their inability to look in the mirror. We have no idea what Sherman did or didn't do, nor will we.

It's a shame that a rational discussion about ADD medication isn't likely to happen. Any NFL player can get a prescription if they want it. About 4% of the population has one. Only 2% of NFL players have one. Nearly 16% of MLB players have one. These are numbers I got off of Mike Sando's blog on ESPN.

 

[Alkahsu]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

Innocent until proven guilty and have you seen how he's played the last few weeks? He obviously doesn't need adderal to be one of the best CBs in the league.

And who's to say he hasn't been taking anything else? Fact of the matter is he cheated to gain an advantage over an opponent and is still allowed to play. Why not just man up and accept the punishment instead of dragging it on? I mean if the Seahawks do somehow win the Super Bowl, you know it will be forever tainted because of this..right? *

That's not a fact at all, there hasn't been a ruling yet. And you really think 1 player getting suspended would taint a SB win? Lol, keep hating.

 

[biju]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

Innocent until proven guilty and have you seen how he's played the last few weeks? He obviously doesn't need adderal to be one of the best CBs in the league.

And who's to say he hasn't been taking anything else? Fact of the matter is he cheated to gain an advantage over an opponent and is still allowed to play. Why not just man up and accept the punishment instead of dragging it on? I mean if the Seahawks do somehow win the Super Bowl, you know it will be forever tainted because of this..right? *

That's not a fact at all, there hasn't been a ruling yet. And you really think 1 player getting suspended would taint a SB win? Lol, keep hating.

Don't let this guy troll you. Our fanbase is going to need to learn how to deal with this because we're going to get a lot of it over the next few years. It's the same thing New England, Pittsburgh and Green Bay fans have done in the past decade and I hope we can even better than they have been in dealing with it.Let's win and show class where others can't.

 

[proninja]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/kfutl6

 

[devouredbychaos]

I'm almost happy Sherman didn't make the pro bowl. He's going to be pissed about that all off season.Also, it's a joke

He cheated. It's an embarrassment to the league that his appeal allowed him to play long enough to lock the Seahawks into the postseason. Why compound that by selecting him to a probowl?

Innocent until proven guilty and have you seen how he's played the last few weeks? He obviously doesn't need adderal to be one of the best CBs in the league.

And who's to say he hasn't been taking anything else? Fact of the matter is he cheated to gain an advantage over an opponent and is still allowed to play. Why not just man up and accept the punishment instead of dragging it on? I mean if the Seahawks do somehow win the Super Bowl, you know it will be forever tainted because of this..right? *

That's not a fact at all, there hasn't been a ruling yet. And you really think 1 player getting suspended would taint a SB win? Lol, keep hating.

When that one player is technically one of the best players on the team, yes.And let's not forget about Browner either.

 

[ImTheScientist]

And who's to say he hasn't been taking anything else? Fact of the matter is he cheated to gain an advantage over an opponent and is still allowed to play. Why not just man up and accept the punishment instead of dragging it on? I mean if the Seahawks do somehow win the Super Bowl, you know it will be forever tainted because of this..right? *

Im kinda surprised you got so many people to bite.Anyways.... RW is only 2TD passes away from breaking Mannings record.

 

[ImTheScientist]

How is Pete Carroll not coach of the year and John Schneider not GM of the year?

 

[biju]

I'm likely being very greedy here, but I want Russell Wilson to throw for 3 TDs this weekend. This is primarily because I know there will be a large group of people who want to put an asterisk against anything that is either 26 (tie) or 27 (beat by one) TDs against Peyton Manning's record.

Football Gods: let him throw for three so there is not a single word about that touchdown.

 

[proninja]

I'm likely being very greedy here, but I want Russell Wilson to throw for 3 TDs this weekend. This is primarily because I know there will be a large group of people who want to put an asterisk against anything that is either 26 (tie) or 27 (beat by one) TDs against Peyton Manning's record.

Football Gods: let him throw for three so there is not a single word about that touchdown.

While we're being greedy, can we have all three of those come in the first half and then have a matt flynn cigar for the second half?

 

[biju]

I'm likely being very greedy here, but I want Russell Wilson to throw for 3 TDs this weekend. This is primarily because I know there will be a large group of people who want to put an asterisk against anything that is either 26 (tie) or 27 (beat by one) TDs against Peyton Manning's record.

Football Gods: let him throw for three so there is not a single word about that touchdown.

While we're being greedy, can we have all three of those come in the first half and then have a matt flynn cigar for the second half?

Oh, I could not agree more. Getting a second half of Flynn, Turbin, Jermaine Kearse, Deon Butler and everyone that would normally not stand during a game would be an ideal situation. We have already had 3 games in a row where the 1st teams have played half a game and I'd love to see them well rested for the Wild Card round (because there's no way SF loses to the Cards).

 

[Hooper31]

This is what it felt like back in 1983. For those too young to remember, the 83 Seahawks built a monster defense. Curt Warner the first was just a rookie and Seattle was primed to set the NFL on fire much like Wilson is doing now. At the start of the 1984 season Seattle was the favorite in Vegas to win a super bowl. Several of those guys from that 83 team have their name in the ring of honor. They were a special group. Seeing Kam destroy Davis last night instantly reminded me of Easley. The win in Miami during the 83 playoffs is still my favorite Seattle win in the team's history, but that game last night is easily a top 5 game from my memories. Enjoy this team while it lasts Seahawk fans. Not For Long = NFL for most franchises. I hope this team can keep it going.

Only had to wait 29 years and 1 week for that same feeling. Super cool.

 

[proninja]

I am really excited, and pretty nervous about each one of these games. Though not as nervous as I would be playing against this team. It's a fun feeling - actually feeling like the team has a legit shot.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What can you guys tell me about Gus Bradley?

 

[Hooper31]

What can you guys tell me about Gus Bradley?

Well respected around the league. Worked under Monte Kiffin in Tampa from 06 to 09. Kiffin raved about Bradley enough to make people take notice. Brought in by Mora, and the only coach Carroll kept when he took over. Prefers to dominate at the line of scrimmage. Wants to stop the run at all costs. Likes to play zone behind and mix in the blitzes selectively. Wants speed speed speed and guys who know how to tackle.

 

[Hooper31]

If Clemons is out with an ACL injury, I have no idea what the DE rotation is going to look like. Irvin will slide to the LEO and Bryant it going to have to play more downs. After watching Irvin respond in the fourth quarter from the left side with some inspired play I feel a bit better about him getting some reps, but I have major doubts about Bryant having to see more snaps.

Who rotates in at DE? McDonald? Scruggs? My gut tells me Scruggs, but then that means you're asking Branch to see more reps at DT.

 

[ImTheScientist]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2013/01/07/washington-redskins-accuse-seattle-seahawks-of-cheap-shots/1814279/I love Richard Sherman.

 

[ImTheScientist]

If Clemons is out with an ACL injury, I have no idea what the DE rotation is going to look like. Irvin will slide to the LEO and Bryant it going to have to play more downs. After watching Irvin respond in the fourth quarter from the left side with some inspired play I feel a bit better about him getting some reps, but I have major doubts about Bryant having to see more snaps. Who rotates in at DE? McDonald? Scruggs? My gut tells me Scruggs, but then that means you're asking Branch to see more reps at DT.

Irvin to LEO and Scruggs will play 3rd down pass rush role.

 

[Hooper31]

Season over. At some point I will scrap together my thoughts and make some lists. Best and worst moments. Perhaps some random musings.

 

[mdlane]

Best early present this year? Merry ####### Christmas 49ers!

 

[Hooper31]

Best early present this year? Merry ####### Christmas 49ers!

I might need to spend some time analyzing data to see why is it Lynch seemed to kick ### on natural turf, but struggle on the artificial surface lately.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Was just coming in to report that Seahawks boards are saying the Bradley to Eagles thing. Hard to say about a DC with such a good D on his hands, but good riddance. Other than individual effort, guy seems to have no clue how to get pressure on the QB. With Carroll's attention to the D, the next guy up will be up to speed in no time. Would galdly welcome Horton...

How true is this?

 

[mad sweeney]

Was just coming in to report that Seahawks boards are saying the Bradley to Eagles thing. Hard to say about a DC with such a good D on his hands, but good riddance. Other than individual effort, guy seems to have no clue how to get pressure on the QB. With Carroll's attention to the D, the next guy up will be up to speed in no time. Would galdly welcome Horton...

How true is this?

It's 100% true that some Seahawks boards are talking about it.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Was just coming in to report that Seahawks boards are saying the Bradley to Eagles thing. Hard to say about a DC with such a good D on his hands, but good riddance. Other than individual effort, guy seems to have no clue how to get pressure on the QB. With Carroll's attention to the D, the next guy up will be up to speed in no time. Would galdly welcome Horton...

How true is this?

It's 100% true that some Seahawks boards are talking about it.

Not doubting you. Do you have any links you could pass along?

 

[Hooper31]

Several reports on Twitter that Bradley doesn't have the job... yet. The early reports are only rumor to this point.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Several reports on Twitter that Bradley doesn't have the job... yet. The early reports are only rumor to this point.

He's actually scheduled for his second interview tomorrow.

 

[mad sweeney]

Was just coming in to report that Seahawks boards are saying the Bradley to Eagles thing. Hard to say about a DC with such a good D on his hands, but good riddance. Other than individual effort, guy seems to have no clue how to get pressure on the QB. With Carroll's attention to the D, the next guy up will be up to speed in no time. Would galdly welcome Horton...

How true is this?

It's 100% true that some Seahawks boards are talking about it.

Not doubting you. Do you have any links you could pass along?

Not to anything reliable.

 

[biju]

If I had to guess, I think Bradley gets a job somewhere. I've read that he has three different interviews lined up now including a second with the Eagles. If he doesn't go to Philly he'll end up somewhere.With Bevell I think although the numbers don't quite support it I believe he's going to get a job. I know some Seahawks fans don't want to hear it, but his plays are friggin awesome. Playcalling only seems suspect because he's setting things up most of the time. I really believe he's going to get a job because he's a hell of a lot smarter than people give him credit for.On the offense side I'm a little concerned only because I really think we're losing a great offensive mind and that another year in the same system for Wilson would be huge. On the defensive side I think a solid portion of this is Carroll and the plays are his. I know Monte Kiffin regards Bradley as special but it seems like his defense broke down at the worst times and capitalized during the times when it didn't matter. (That's probably the bitter fan in me saying that more than anything else.)

 

[ImTheScientist]

If I had to guess, I think Bradley gets a job somewhere. I've read that he has three different interviews lined up now including a second with the Eagles. If he doesn't go to Philly he'll end up somewhere.With Bevell I think although the numbers don't quite support it I believe he's going to get a job. I know some Seahawks fans don't want to hear it, but his plays are friggin awesome. Playcalling only seems suspect because he's setting things up most of the time. I really believe he's going to get a job because he's a hell of a lot smarter than people give him credit for.On the offense side I'm a little concerned only because I really think we're losing a great offensive mind and that another year in the same system for Wilson would be huge. On the defensive side I think a solid portion of this is Carroll and the plays are his. I know Monte Kiffin regards Bradley as special but it seems like his defense broke down at the worst times and capitalized during the times when it didn't matter. (That's probably the bitter fan in me saying that more than anything else.)

I don't think we will miss Bradley.....Im more concerned about Bevell. I would like to see RW not have to change scheme's a ton...it would be nice to see him stay.As for the offseason the Hawks really don't have any crucial guys to sign back. Hopefully they can find a pass rushing DT.

 

[ImTheScientist]

According to CSN Philly, the Eagles "hope" to get Seahawks DC Gus Bradley under contract before he leaves Philadelphia Tuesday.Bradley will be in town for a second interview for the Eagles' head-coaching vacancy. He's "obviously the top choice," but still has interviews scheduled with the Jaguars and Chargers. Bradley may never make it to those interviews. A source told local radio personality Howard Eskin that Bradley is coming back to Philly to "finalize" the deal.

 

[biju]

If I had to guess, I think Bradley gets a job somewhere. I've read that he has three different interviews lined up now including a second with the Eagles. If he doesn't go to Philly he'll end up somewhere.With Bevell I think although the numbers don't quite support it I believe he's going to get a job. I know some Seahawks fans don't want to hear it, but his plays are friggin awesome. Playcalling only seems suspect because he's setting things up most of the time. I really believe he's going to get a job because he's a hell of a lot smarter than people give him credit for.On the offense side I'm a little concerned only because I really think we're losing a great offensive mind and that another year in the same system for Wilson would be huge. On the defensive side I think a solid portion of this is Carroll and the plays are his. I know Monte Kiffin regards Bradley as special but it seems like his defense broke down at the worst times and capitalized during the times when it didn't matter. (That's probably the bitter fan in me saying that more than anything else.)

I don't think we will miss Bradley.....Im more concerned about Bevell. I would like to see RW not have to change scheme's a ton...it would be nice to see him stay.As for the offseason the Hawks really don't have any crucial guys to sign back. Hopefully they can find a pass rushing DT.

It's hard to say we won't miss Bradley when we have the #1 scoring defense in the league. I would have loved to see another year--but having said that I think the playcalling could have been better. Having said that, if/when we lose Bradley I would be *very* open to having Lovie Smith come in as DC if he doesn't get a HC job elsewhere. Since Gus Bradley and Lovie Smith hail from the same coaching tree (the Tony Dungy/Monte Kiffin tree) I think it would be a smooth transition. The other issue is Todd Wash, the current DL coach might follow for a DC gig (assuming we don't promote him from within).On the Bevell side, I agree but Carroll won't bring in an OC (assuming Bevell gets a job) with a dramatically different approach from Bevell anyway. Again, I would love to see consistency here but it's not the end of the world. I'm not sure who we might bring in to replace him however.By the way, I wonder how many times a team as been plucked of their OC *and* their DC in the same offseason? It speaks to how much success we have had this year for sure.

 

[MaxThreshold]

According to CSN Philly, the Eagles "hope" to get Seahawks DC Gus Bradley under contract before he leaves Philadelphia Tuesday.Bradley will be in town for a second interview for the Eagles' head-coaching vacancy. He's "obviously the top choice," but still has interviews scheduled with the Jaguars and Chargers. Bradley may never make it to those interviews. A source told local radio personality Howard Eskin that Bradley is coming back to Philly to "finalize" the deal.

We missed you. Where have you been? Thought for sure you jumped off a bridge.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Dan Quinn is going to be one hell of a "re-hire".

 

[AAABatteries]

Dan Quinn is going to be one hell of a "re-hire".

 

[ImTheScientist]

Anyone have thoughts on the draft?

 

[devouredbychaos]

Anyone have thoughts on the draft?

No. But what time are the Seahawks playing on Sunday again?

 

[Hooper31]

Anyone have thoughts on the draft?

Too far away to know. I have general roster thoughts. These could be severely impacted before the draft via free agency.My gut says significant changes in the defensive line. I hate to say it, but they have to move forward with the idea that Clemons won't be back. If that's the case I doubt they have enough confidence in Irvin to go forward with him being the full time Leo. I bet they keep Irvin in the rotation at LDE with Bryant as the pass rush specialist. Along with a missing a DE in Clemons I think they look for an upgrade at the pass rushing specialist DT. Jones showed us he could make a difference, but the question becomes whether or not they want to sink cap space into him to retain him. Also, how much can they depend on Jones health? And then there's Branch. He could be gone too. If Clemons, Branch, and Jones are all missing from the rotation that's a lot to replace. Two other veterans to replace are Hill and Trufant. I think there's a good chance that Hill comes back at a cut rate. I would be for keeping Hill. He still makes plays, especially against the run. Trufant might be done. IMO they move forward with the current personnel in the defensive backfield assuming Thurmond is good to go.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Anyone have thoughts on the draft?

Too far away to know. I have general roster thoughts. These could be severely impacted before the draft via free agency.My gut says significant changes in the defensive line. I hate to say it, but they have to move forward with the idea that Clemons won't be back. If that's the case I doubt they have enough confidence in Irvin to go forward with him being the full time Leo. I bet they keep Irvin in the rotation at LDE with Bryant as the pass rush specialist. Along with a missing a DE in Clemons I think they look for an upgrade at the pass rushing specialist DT. Jones showed us he could make a difference, but the question becomes whether or not they want to sink cap space into him to retain him. Also, how much can they depend on Jones health? And then there's Branch. He could be gone too. If Clemons, Branch, and Jones are all missing from the rotation that's a lot to replace. Two other veterans to replace are Hill and Trufant. I think there's a good chance that Hill comes back at a cut rate. I would be for keeping Hill. He still makes plays, especially against the run. Trufant might be done. IMO they move forward with the current personnel in the defensive backfield assuming Thurmond is good to go.

I hope they address the DL and the WR position. WR is deep this year so I think a 2nd round pick there would be nice for additional depth. I don't trust Sydney Rice to stay healthy. They need a DT who can rush the passer and another DE. I would actually like to see them ditch the Red Bryant experiment. We just don't generate enough pass rush with him in there.Gotta address Hill as well... I hope Trufant is done.... I think Lane/Maxwell could fill in for him.