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**Official 2014 MLB Regular Season-All over but the shouting (3 Viewers)

shadyridr said:
MAC_32 said:
shadyridr said:
RnR said:
shadyridr said:
Yeah I had no clue donaldson was a first rounder. Wow thanks for the info.
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So why were you so sure that the A's would be the first ones to admit that they lucked into him? Do you just make stuff up on the fly?
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so sure? I said i think. This is a message board not a ####in court room. Why do you always have such a bug up your ### about my posts? People are allowed to post their opinions on here despite what you may think message board cop. Why dont you just block me and move on? And even if he was a first rounder they couldve still lucked into him panning out eventually 5 years later.
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heh heh, guess I'm not the only one.
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hes just a pathetic human being that likes trolling for no reason. You ever notice he only posts in this forum? ####### pathetic. Im moving on and putting him on ignore. Something i shouldve done a long time ago.People are allowed to be wrong about things on message boards but apparently not him. Hes mr perfect!
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I probably should utilize that ignore function more liberally. The educator/personal trainer/coach in me thinks I can fix anything though, so I don't. Even when it's obviously a lost cause. I still think there's that glimmer of hope that even if they are that big of a dope that maybe...just maybe you can get through to them. I was successful once and now I instinctively thinks it can work with anyone. It can't...but I can't help myself from trying.

 
MAC: You didn't invent the pitcher stream, platooning OF or punting catchers. Those are viable methods that have been around for a couple of decades, and they can work in the right situation. People (Read: me + others) just get tired of you touting these methods like some sort of foolproof magic formula to winning fantasy leagues. We are all well aware that platooning players in Coors Field works. People have been doing it in fantasy leagues for 20 seasons.

As for no one commenting on your failures thread, here is why: No one gives a #### about your day-to-day fantasy decisions. Your attitude around here is like you're some sort of magic baseball guru that is gracing us with insight to your awesome fantasy baseball prowess. Its silly. Know your audience. Most of us aren't here for a "how to spend an hour each morning to win your Yahoo league" seminar.

Lincecum post above is perfect example of your nonsense. You nearly injured yourself from patting yourself on the back so hard about how you saw this coming. So I make one quip about it while sheepishly admitting that I added the joker at just the right time, and you lose it and drop an essay on the thread.

Also, I own Mauer in 0 leagues this season. I have drafted him with success (and failure) in past seasons. If you're going to pin a sure-fire Hall of Fame catcher with a career .320 BA and a 133 OPS+ as my biggest fantasy baseball flaw... have at it.

 
Shady: I'll make this one short and sweet because I know you won't follow a lengthy, nuanced response.

You are more than welcome to your opinions, and if we're being honest, I look forward to seeing what you post. Just don't be a crybaby when people think they're not well-reasoned, are often off-the-cuff, emotionally-charged babble, and are more than likely not checked for any sort of factual relevance. You build your own brand around here with that type of posting. I'll give you credit for that.

 
To both of you: Relax. Worse things going on in the world than a disagreement in the FBG Baseball Forum. If me busting your balls every now and again gets you that upset, I'll stop.

 
MAC_32 said:
Then fix your confirmation bias problems. You're looking for stuff like the above, so you comment anytime it happens, but gloss over when it's not because it doesn't fit the story you've already written in your head.

I started a thread detailing my major screw up's last year, no one responded - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=685900#entry15816965. Unlike most people in the message board world I don't hide from my f up's, I try to learn from them.

Based on what's happened so far this year I am better at some of my weaknesses but not all of them. I made one big mistake in one league keeping an expensive Verlander rather than trusting my numbers and letting him go and a smaller mistake getting a little too greedy with veteran OF's that are not surprisingly unhealthy. For whatever reason it irks you that I am good at finding good cheap pitching. I did again this year. I'm probably overly critical when it comes to arms because I think I can build a staff from a smaller, cheaper pool. Similar story with steals. I de-value them draft day then look for those types during the season to cover injuries/players sucking because those are the types that I usually find on waivers. Apparently it bugs you that I don't make catchers a priority. I think owning Mike Napoli is a headache, that also bothered you. I think the Napoli owner in your league this year probably has a headache. It also bugs you that I use platoons. So what? I choose to pick other players then come back with Corey Dickerson and Drew Stubbs late. Yeah, it's two roster spots for one position, but I got 51 games of 35/14/37/9/.323 (111/45/118/29 over a full season) ball out of them before trading away Dickerson. I think my team is better by doing that. This form of team building riles you up because???...

Anyway, wrapping up this rant. I think you, and a small subset of the others that usually post in here, are morons. It's because you constantly follow me around looking for errors in anything I post because you know that I'll snark back at you. I'm sure there are several others that regularly post on here that have f'd up in posts that I don't respond to because that's not my style. If you're going to be an ### hole though I'll be more than happy to oblige. Personally, I don't think the others really care about it, they don't want to read it. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they like to see the same 4 or 5 people constantly bicker. If that's what you guys want I can adapt, which I've done. It's why anytime you respond to me I say Mauer. Dr. D will now be Bryan Shaw. You get on your high horse when you think I write something that is laughable then it comes back and bites you. If you're going to remind me about my f up's, or snark like that bs above with Lincecum, then it's going to go back and forth with a bunch of #### that (I think) most here don't want to read.

Don't get on that horse and you won't hear from me.

Your choice.
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MAC_32 said:
Lol I'm in his head
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:lmao:

 
RnR said:
To both of you: Relax. Worse things going on in the world than a disagreement in the FBG Baseball Forum. If me busting your balls every now and again gets you that upset, I'll stop.
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The dude asked about Lincecum. I responded. Your response is the same #### over and over again, consistent with the other 2 dolts. If the others in here really want to see us all rib each other back and forth over and over again then fine, say so. Based on what they've written in the past I don't think they do though.

I started threads I thought others would provide input for, so everyone would benefit, not to toot my own horn and act like I'm re-inventing the wheel. I'm not. When others didn't respond and it became obvious they didn't care I stopped posting in them. When I do respond it's usually having to do with players on my teams (that I'm familiar with), ones I never considered drafting (because I think they're incorrectly valued), or waiver wire guys (because I usually scour through at least a couple of times per week to see what's going on). It's annoying, to others, when the 3 amigos usually follow up with the same ole schtick. Oooooh, look, MAC's posting, how can I nit pick something he wrote then let the next page turn into a dumpster fire. Or I gotta book mark this for later in case he's wrong. That'll show him.

I would never bring up something like Mauer if you would have handled your disagreement with an ounce of non-idiocy, but you could not wait to go all oh MAC you are so ####### stupid for that take.

RnR said:
MAC_32 said:
RnR said:
Please don't listen to that advice. If its a 2 C league, you keep Mauer.

ETA: If he retorts about the value of daily platooning Terry Steinbach and Mike LaValliere at the position instead, you'll know I'm right.
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the only reason to keep Mauer is if you plan to trade him pre draft. His adp is not in line with his actual value. He's a one category player. Lots of alternative routes to play at catcher.
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Please list the catchers that will have more R & RBI than a non-catching Mauer this season. I don't think you understand what "one-category player" means.

Also, what in the world does his ADP have to do with this decision?

ETA: There are not "lots of alternative routes to play at catcher." In fact, in his keeper league it is probably a wasteland. You can create all the threads you want here to try and frame yourself as an expert, but don't bring that weak sauce in other threads and give bad advice to innocent folks in the name of looking like some kind of magic baseball guru by "thinking outside the box." It's unbecoming... and mostly just lame.
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The problem is you were totally wrong about that. If you didn't act like a chode about it I'm not writing this. You did though, and you won't stop the same thing over and over again. You're not learning from your f up's. You're being a jack ###. Pour the gas, light the match, then watch it burn. Wrong? Oh well, rinse, repeat.

In the end I'll go back and forth all day long, but I don't think anyone else really cares. I'm all for ribbing, but this is ####### ridiculous with you three knobs. Since it's clear you don't care what anyone else on this board thinks besides yourself I guess we just wait and see what the next one will be. I guess I can at least thank you for not throwing temper tantrums like Dr. D when I point out your being a moron though.

 
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I was wrong about Joe Mauer this season. I can own up to that.

He has been quite bad this season and the additional plate appearances have resulted from the move to first base have proved to be insignificant.

I still don't consider him a one-category player at the catcher position. Over the past decade, he has made a pretty strong case that he's a three-category player with occasional upside in the other two categories. The only "lesson" to learn from this is that at 31, we may be seeing a decline in Mauer in spite of the position change.

I stand behind the reasoning for my advice, even if it didn't prove to be particularly helpful for the guy who was deciding whether or not Mauer was a keeper this season.

I suppose I am fortunate that other I played against this season valued Joe a little more highly than I did not come away with him in any re-drafts and do not own him in dynasty.

Beyond that, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You're ranting like a lunatic. I value the opinion of several folks on this board. Even in the Mauer discussion you have rehashed, I was trying to give advice in good faith. The fact I disagreed with you on that one doesn't change that.

Also, as an educator, you should be ashamed of that last sentence.

 
Eephus said:
shadyridr said:
Wrigley said:
shadyridr said:
East Coast Bias said:
Yankees make a move and pick up Jeff Francis from the A's.
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I really wish they would start trading for prospects and rebuild the right way. Focus everything on 2016 with Tanaka coming back and Betances as your closer. Blow everything else up.
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Hard to trade some of those huge contracts
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I agree but I think they can get something for Kuroda & Robertson.
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Those guys aren't going to bring huge returns and the organization isn't deep with pitchers. They're close enough in both the division and wild card races that blowing things up doesn't make any sense. The Yankees don't have a lot of trade assets but they do have more ability to take on toxic contracts than just about any other club.
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i realize those two wont get huge prospects but maybe they can get a few B level prospects and maybe they hit on one. And at the very least they shed some salary. Theres just too many holes for them to patch to make a run IMO. Hard to blame cashman when 4/5 of the rotation gets hurt. No team can withstand that kind of hit to their staff except the A's i guess lol
 
RnR said:
Also, as an educator, you should be ashamed of that last sentence.
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i know you hate outside the box thinking but all good educators have to. There really is no way to reach people who are belligerent but the only successful way I have seen is like this. They will never realize they are being a moron until you call them one. Usually repeatedly.
 
MAC_32 said:
I guess I can at least thank you for not throwing temper tantrums like Dr. D when I point out your being a moron though.
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You're like a teenage girl, only they probably know baseball better than you do. Please keep us updated on the guys who have been great all year that you allegedly drafted. TIA.

 
MAC_32 said:
RnR said:
Also, as an educator, you should be ashamed of that last sentence.
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i know you hate outside the box thinking but all good educators have to. There really is no way to reach people who are belligerent but the only successful way I have seen is like this. They will never realize they are being a moron until you call them one. Usually repeatedly.
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:whoosh:

 
MAC_32 said:
RnR said:
Also, as an educator, you should be ashamed of that last sentence.
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i know you hate outside the box thinking but all good educators have to. There really is no way to reach people who are belligerent but the only successful way I have seen is like this. They will never realize they are being a moron until you call them one. Usually repeatedly.
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MAC_32 said:
I evaluate trades at the time they happen
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Moron

MAC_32 said:
I think the Indians are a contender again
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Moron

MAC_32 said:
:goodposting: Soto was a late round flier, but he has been dynamite in A ball. Not saying he's going to blossom into anything meaningful, but he might...something Peralta won't do. Peralta sucks. At everything.
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Moron

/outsidethebox

 
MAC_32 said:
RnR said:
MAC_32 said:
RnR said:
Also, as an educator, you should be ashamed of that last sentence.
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i know you hate outside the box thinking but all good educators have to. There really is no way to reach people who are belligerent but the only successful way I have seen is like this. They will never realize they are being a moron until you call them one. Usually repeatedly.
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:whoosh:
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exactly.
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Let's take another angle at this: You're not an English teacher, are you?

 
Replay experts, help me out here.

Runner on 1st, 1 out

Line drive to LF caught.

Runner on 1st never makes it to 2nd base. Goes 1/2 way, sees ball caught/out sign from 2b umpire, goes back to 1st

LF throws ball back into infield. 2B catches ball and clearly steps on 2B

Play is challenged as LF trapped the ball. Call is over turned

So how in the hell is the runner on 1B awarded 2nd base and not out via a force?

 
I'm far from an expert on this stuff, but I think that's one of those scenarios where what happens on the field is overruled by what theoretically would have happened if the umpire makes the correct ruling on the field.

If ump correctly signals that the ball was not caught, the runner likely beats a throw to 2B for the force out.

 
RnR said:
I'm far from an expert on this stuff, but I think that's one of those scenarios where what happens on the field is overruled by what theoretically would have happened if the umpire makes the correct ruling on the field.

If ump correctly signals that the ball was not caught, the runner likely beats a throw to 2B for the force out.
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That's what went through my head too. just hate the fact that they prevent the ability to have the reviewer use logic, if needed.

Not even saying the scenario today was a 'he wouldn't have made 2nd', but I can see the possibility of that happening.

 
It was good to see you finally came around on Jay Hon's lousy defense after beating the uzr drum to death on him though. Eye test tells a totally different story, which you finally agree on. After calling me a moron for saying the same thing three years ago.

Lulz

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Donaldson was a first round pick out of Auburn that mashed early on with the Cubs, then hit a bit of a roadblock in 2008 in A ball, which is when the A's pounced in the Harden deal.
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The Cubs have been woeful at developing 3B since Ron Santo retired, yet they have let go several prospects who have flourished with other teams; Donaldson, Josh Harrison, Casey McGehee and Eric Hinske.

 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
"Good said:
Donaldson was a first round pick out of Auburn that mashed early on with the Cubs, then hit a bit of a roadblock in 2008 in A ball, which is when the A's pounced in the Harden deal.
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The Cubs have been woeful at developing 3B since Ron Santo retired, yet they have let go several prospects who have flourished with other teams; Donaldson, Josh Harrison, Casey McGehee and Eric Hinske.
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donaldson was a catcher in their system though. And kris bryant seems pretty cant miss. I guess well see
 
RnR said:
I was wrong about Joe Mauer this season. I can own up to that.

He has been quite bad this season and the additional plate appearances have resulted from the move to first base have proved to be insignificant.

I still don't consider him a one-category player at the catcher position. Over the past decade, he has made a pretty strong case that he's a three-category player with occasional upside in the other two categories. The only "lesson" to learn from this is that at 31, we may be seeing a decline in Mauer in spite of the position change.

I stand behind the reasoning for my advice, even if it didn't prove to be particularly helpful for the guy who was deciding whether or not Mauer was a keeper this season.

I suppose I am fortunate that other I played against this season valued Joe a little more highly than I did not come away with him in any re-drafts and do not own him in dynasty.

Beyond that, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You're ranting like a lunatic. I value the opinion of several folks on this board. Even in the Mauer discussion you have rehashed, I was trying to give advice in good faith. The fact I disagreed with you on that one doesn't change that.

Also, as an educator, you should be ashamed of that last sentence.
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the passive aggressiveness in this post followed quickly by the I told you so's, bumps, updates, and insulting my livelihood in others is just so textbook you can't make it up.
 
MAC_32 said:
RnR said:
I was wrong about Joe Mauer this season. I can own up to that.

He has been quite bad this season and the additional plate appearances have resulted from the move to first base have proved to be insignificant.

I still don't consider him a one-category player at the catcher position. Over the past decade, he has made a pretty strong case that he's a three-category player with occasional upside in the other two categories. The only "lesson" to learn from this is that at 31, we may be seeing a decline in Mauer in spite of the position change.

I stand behind the reasoning for my advice, even if it didn't prove to be particularly helpful for the guy who was deciding whether or not Mauer was a keeper this season.

I suppose I am fortunate that other I played against this season valued Joe a little more highly than I did not come away with him in any re-drafts and do not own him in dynasty.

Beyond that, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You're ranting like a lunatic. I value the opinion of several folks on this board. Even in the Mauer discussion you have rehashed, I was trying to give advice in good faith. The fact I disagreed with you on that one doesn't change that.

Also, as an educator, you should be ashamed of that last sentence.
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the passive aggressiveness in this post followed quickly by the I told you so's, bumps, updates, and insulting my livelihood in others is just so textbook you can't make it up.
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Read through some of your posts from earlier. I showed quite a bit of restraint in responding to your little tirade. Some of the names you were slinging around would get your ### kicked in person, Mr. iTough guy. If I were you, I'd just let it go and move on.

 
Hahahahahaha, oh my....the iFight.

If you don't want me to be a meanie then DO NOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING I WRITE. I've written this to you before, but it isn't something I could possibly be wrong about so I wouldn't expect you to remember me writing it.

 
Oof.

When shadyridr's the only guy still left in your corner, it might be time to throw in the towel on this.

:shrug:

ETA: For the sake of everyone involved, please PM me if you feel the need to continue this further. No reason to keep this going in the thread.

 
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RnR said:
Oof.

When shadyridr's the only guy still left in your corner, it might be time to throw in the towel on this.

:shrug:

ETA: For the sake of everyone involved, please PM me if you feel the need to continue this further. No reason to keep this going in the thread.
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Don't respond to me, I don't respond to you. Pretty simple. I've been doing it well for a while then you went and screwed it up today. You have done better than limp and dr Doolittle though. Go back to being good, maybe they will follow suit.But probably not.

 
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