**Official 2014 MLB Regular Season-All over but the shouting (2 Viewers)

[Long Ball Larry]

I can't imagine what format puts Miggy in the top 10 of 5X5.

Not top 10, but he is number 14 among batters on the ESPN Player Rater.

 

[the moops]

he's #11 in yahoo rankings

 

[Premier]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

 

[Hilts]

Puig running into the triple play has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen since the last dumb thing Puig did. Talented player but he keeps displaying new levels of idiocy.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

 

[Premier]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

You could add 2.5 of those guys together and probably get what Miggy cost you.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

You could add 2.5 of those guys together and probably get what Miggy cost you.

No

 

[guru_007]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

exactly.

how about Chris Davis or CarGo or Prince Fielder or David Wright

No sure things in fantasy baseball. People crying over Cabrera's sub-par home run year have no idea the value he still has to a fantasy baseball team. I posted earlier about how bad Votto was earlier this thread.....I drafted him early in three preseason drafts. dude was a disaster before he got hurt.

 

[Premier]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

You could add 2.5 of those guys together and probably get what Miggy cost you.

No

This site has Miggy at 47, and Longo, Wright and Pedroria at 62.

So......yes.

http://razzball.com/playerrater-preseason-espnmlb12/

 

[Doctor Detroit]

17/89/.308/374

22/95/.253/342

13/79/.261/354

14/94/.257/326

20/106/284/342

Cabrera

Longoria/Wright

Wright/Votto

Wright/Kipnis

Posey/Pedroia

Avg auction values:

Cabrera $44

Votto $28

Pedroia $25

Wright $26

Kipnis $25

Posey $20

Choo $23, Bruce $24, Harper $29, Marte $20, Segura $22

Can you combine any of those top 25 players and actually want to trade them for Cabrera? Posey and Longoria might be the only combo unless you are in an average league, then maybe not. None of the others work, and this happens almost every year. He's not been the guy he was the past three seasons, but he's still an elite fantasy play even playing hurt. Fantasy baseball is a lot harder than fantasy football for this very reason, it's hard to predict and if you are in a 12 or 13 team league with shallow benches, the league will likely be decided on the waiver wire. Cabrera hasn't lived up to his salary, but he's outperforming other guys relative to ADP or $$$ going away.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

You could add 2.5 of those guys together and probably get what Miggy cost you.

No

This site has Miggy at 47, and Longo, Wright and Pedroria at 62.

So......yes.

http://razzball.com/playerrater-preseason-espnmlb12/

You aren't good at math are you?

 

[Premier]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

You could add 2.5 of those guys together and probably get what Miggy cost you.

No

This site has Miggy at 47, and Longo, Wright and Pedroria at 62. So......yes.

http://razzball.com/playerrater-preseason-espnmlb12/

You aren't good at math are you?

Apparently I am because I am whooping you in cake and don't watch any of the games.

2.5 there is 52. Miggy went for 47. Close enough for the point I was trying to make.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

That's all great but you probably had to blow a big wad to get him in an auction league. Only being top-15 isn't getting it done.

Pedroia, Votto, Wright, Longoria, Posey and Kipnis are preseason top 15 guys that aren't in the top 100. Meanwhile Todd Frazier, Charlie Blackmon, Dee Gordon and Dozier are all top 25 in roto. That's how fantasy baseball works.

You could add 2.5 of those guys together and probably get what Miggy cost you.

No

This site has Miggy at 47, and Longo, Wright and Pedroria at 62. So......yes.

http://razzball.com/playerrater-preseason-espnmlb12/

You aren't good at math are you?

Apparently I am because I am whooping you in cake and don't watch any of the games.

2.5 there is 52. Miggy went for 47. Close enough for the point I was trying to make.

Razzball is one site, here is an aggregate of ten sites. No 2.5 for one there.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

If you drafted all three of Longoria, Pedroia and Wright, you definitely lost. If you drafted Cabrera you have an under-perfoming #2 who is currently #11 and still #1 at 3B. That's kind of the point. Lots of crappy players in that list of guys I provided, plenty of places to go wrong.

 

[Eephus]

Definitely a down season by Cabrera's lofty standards but he's stayed in the lineup and racked up solid R and RBI numbers. If you have him on your roster, he's not the reason why you're losing your league.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

First round bye this year with three most expensive buys being Cargo, Davis, and Longoria.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

The Wade Leblanc experiment probably isnt much longer for this world.

 

[Eephus]

The Wade Leblanc experiment probably isnt much longer for this world.

That's a constant since the Bush Administration

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Wade Leblanc experiment probably isnt much longer for this world.

Somewhere, Chris Volstad rejoices.

Actually it might be Fresno....

 

[Eephus]

The Wade Leblanc experiment probably isnt much longer for this world.

Somewhere, Chris Volstad rejoices.

Actually it might be Fresno....

I have no pride. I admit to streaming LeBlanc a few times at Petco.

 

[Raider Nation]

The Cubs are going to call up highly-touted prospect Jorge Soler before their series against Cincinnati begins Tuesday, reports David Kaplan of Comcast Chicago. Soler clubbed a three-run homer and then was pulled from the Iowa Cubs' game Monday night shortly thereafter mid-inning, seeming to signal the promotion.Soler, 22, is hitting .340/.432/.700 with 23 doubles, 15 homers and 57 RBI in 62 minor-league games this season (eight in Rookie ball while he was rehabbing from injury, 22 in Double-A and 32 in Triple-A). He was ranked as the 41st best prospect in all of baseball heading into the season by Baseball America.

Expect Soler to play everyday, just as Javier Baez and Arismendy Alcantara are doing, in order to adjust to the majors this season while the Cubs aren't in contention. He'll play one of the corner outfield spots.

The Cubs signed Soler to a nine-year, $30 million deal in 2012 out of Cuba and he was already on the 40-man roster, so this move is hardly surprising. It's also worth mentioning that perhaps the Cubs' two best prospects -- Kris Bryant and Addison Russell -- are still in the minors. So the new wave isn't all up just yet.

 

[Eephus]

Lorenzo Hampton with a 2 yard TD run to put Miami up 7-0 at the half.

 

[shuke]

I can't imagine what format puts Miggy in the top 10 of 5X5.

#9 hitter in cake league.

 

[RnR]

Definitely a down season by Cabrera's lofty standards but he's stayed in the lineup and racked up solid R and RBI numbers. If you have him on your roster, he's not the reason why you're losing your league.

Old man has nailed this one. Discussion over.

 

[urbanhack]

Definitely a down season by Cabrera's lofty standards but he's stayed in the lineup and racked up solid R and RBI numbers. If you have him on your roster, he's not the reason why you're losing your league.

 

[pantagrapher]

Not sure why people can't understand the gripes about Cabrera. You aim to hit certain thresholds at each roto category. Cabrera has been way below his career average in one category. Below average in another. And about career average in the others. If you picked him, you probably knew you were going to get him, and you planned your draft accordingly. That is, you probably didn't load up on power later in the draft.

He's been fine. He's been productive. But if you drafted him, you were hoping for more. Probably.

 

[the moops]

I think everyone agrees that his numbers are not exactly what you hoped for. But his lower than expected numbers are fantastic compared to about 2/3 of the. first round picks this year.

 

[MAC_32]

I was lucky enough to get Miggy in one of my leagues.

If I had to list all of the things that have gone wrong on that team he is somewhere between #10 and #20, probably closer to #20.

 

[pantagrapher]

Low power numbers early from Cabrera (2nd pick) and Davis (keeper) forced me to trade away Carlos Gomez (keeper) for Stanton (non-keeper) in June. The move worked for a while, and finding Marlon Byrd on waivers early didn't hurt, but I'm still going to finish second because the guy in first was just a beast (he now leads every offensive category). I admit I had a poor draft overall, but did strong work on waivers. Losing Fernandez AND Tanaka left me with little ability to trade for more bats when I realized I didn't have enough to hang onto first place.

Oh well. Two straight seasons in second isn't horrible. And the guy in first—who will win his second straight title—had to deal the farm to win it this year.

Really wish I still had Gomez though.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Jack Z resigned to a multi-year extension. Pretty amazing.

 

[Eephus]

Jack Z resigned to a multi-year extension. Pretty amazing.

I stopped reading at Jack Z resigned

 

[Eephus]

Wade LeBlanc DFAed again

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Not sure why people can't understand the gripes about Cabrera. You aim to hit certain thresholds at each roto category. Cabrera has been way below his career average in one category. Below average in another. And about career average in the others. If you picked him, you probably knew you were going to get him, and you planned your draft accordingly. That is, you probably didn't load up on power later in the draft.

He's been fine. He's been productive. But if you drafted him, you were hoping for more. Probably.

IMO if you are doing anything beyond getting a ballpark estimate, you are pretty much setting yourself up for failure. I've never tied myself to thresholds due to the pure volatility of fantasy baseball. Especially for pitching, it simply doesn't compute. So I don't understand your gripe about people not understanding the griping.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Yeah, I don't get the thresholds thing either. In roto I think you want to stay "well rounded" on offense, but otherwise there isn't much point to setting stat targets.

 

[MAC_32]

Yeah, I don't get the thresholds thing either. In roto I think you want to stay "well rounded" on offense, but otherwise there isn't much point to setting stat targets.

I heavily lean on power then play catch up with steals later. If you run into problems during the season guys like Dyson and Fuld pop up, fill in, let you catch up in steals while your injured guys heal. Tougher to find power in season to cover injuries and ineffectiveness.

 

[pantagrapher]

Not sure why people can't understand the gripes about Cabrera. You aim to hit certain thresholds at each roto category. Cabrera has been way below his career average in one category. Below average in another. And about career average in the others. If you picked him, you probably knew you were going to get him, and you planned your draft accordingly. That is, you probably didn't load up on power later in the draft.

He's been fine. He's been productive. But if you drafted him, you were hoping for more. Probably.

IMO if you are doing anything beyond getting a ballpark estimate, you are pretty much setting yourself up for failure. I've never tied myself to thresholds due to the pure volatility of fantasy baseball. Especially for pitching, it simply doesn't compute. So I don't understand your gripe about people not understanding the griping.

I don't do anything beyond getting a ballpark estimate, thank you. My two top power guys are having a ~54 home run dropoff in one season. Even if my ballpark estimate was 30 home runs lower, that's 24 home runs. Pretty significant. And I agree with Mac: replacing power in-season is probably the toughest thing to do. That's why I had to deal my top keeper to get a legitimate power bat.

Sorry, but that's Cabrera's fault and he should apologize to me personally.

 

[Gopher State]

Miggy the star on my team, has hit three home runs since July 1st. My team is toast, thanks big guy

 

[Annyong]

soler homers in his first ab

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Not sure why people can't understand the gripes about Cabrera. You aim to hit certain thresholds at each roto category. Cabrera has been way below his career average in one category. Below average in another. And about career average in the others. If you picked him, you probably knew you were going to get him, and you planned your draft accordingly. That is, you probably didn't load up on power later in the draft.

He's been fine. He's been productive. But if you drafted him, you were hoping for more. Probably.

IMO if you are doing anything beyond getting a ballpark estimate, you are pretty much setting yourself up for failure. I've never tied myself to thresholds due to the pure volatility of fantasy baseball. Especially for pitching, it simply doesn't compute. So I don't understand your gripe about people not understanding the griping.

I don't do anything beyond getting a ballpark estimate, thank you. My two top power guys are having a ~54 home run dropoff in one season. Even if my ballpark estimate was 30 home runs lower, that's 24 home runs. Pretty significant. And I agree with Mac: replacing power in-season is probably the toughest thing to do. That's why I had to deal my top keeper to get a legitimate power bat.

Sorry, but that's Cabrera's fault and he should apologize to me personally.

I'm not sure who drafts speed over power, I think pretty much everyone drafts power first or at least dedicates a good portion of their budgets to power. It's not like it's some sort of brilliant draft strategy, Truck and I were drafting on ISO numbers several years back. Then again, you can always find Mark Reynolds on the waiver wire and Chris Carter is a guy probably not drafted in most leagues. So there was power left out there that could be had in-season, seems like you just missed the boat.

 

[Master of Past and Present]

Yankees just batted around against Price with all hits. 9 up, 9 hits, 6 runs, Price out with bases loaded

 

[shadyridr]

I think Mickey Mantle just singled off Price

 

[Gopher State]

I think Mickey Mantle just singled off Price

 

[Fly]

Posey is dialed in.

 

[guru_007]

Last night was the first time all year the bases have been loaded against Kershaw

 

[Annyong]

Last night was the first time all year the bases have been loaded against Kershaw

Crazy.

Lowered his ERA from 1.82 to 1.73

 

[Bogart]

David Price gave up nine straight hits in the third inning of his start last night, and has a 4.41 ERA since joining the Tigers. Drew Smyly, one of the pieces Detroit sent to Tampa Bay to get Price, has a 1.67 ERA since the trade. Smyly has allowed fewer runs in five Rays starts than Price allowed in that one inning.

From Newberg this morning. Baseball is a strange game.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Posey is dialed in.

Took him five months.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

They can't make up their minds on the blocking the plate call. Can't wait until it costs someone a playoff game.

 

[Premier]

They can't make up their minds on the blocking the plate call. Can't wait until it costs someone a playoff game.

That rule is going to be a one and done.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

They can't make up their minds on the blocking the plate call. Can't wait until it costs someone a playoff game.

That rule is going to be a one and done.

The application is the problem, it pretty much changes from replay official to replay official. I don't get it.