Dinsy Ejotuz
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Big Phil at kickoff: Jo, I have some bad news -- you're going to sit this one out so I can start six defensive players.
Jo: weeps for ~29 minutes.
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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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Steve Tasker
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Eephus
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Steve Tasker
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at the Brazil fans ole-ing as Germany passed the ball around in the second half.
Bill Brasky
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Has anyone been beheaded or quartered yet?
Dinsy Ejotuz
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WTF?! Had never heard about this before -- must've been fun to watch. 
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Billy Bats
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They're starting on the buses.
http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/2014/07/onibus-sao-incendiados-em-sao-paulo.html
http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/2014/07/onibus-sao-incendiados-em-sao-paulo.html
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Okay, now that the cream has obviously risen to the top, lets look at tomorrow and the finals.
Without DiMaria, I definitely prefer the Dutch to advance tomorrow. I have no idea why Argentina such favorites here. Yeah, Messi is great, sure. But he cannot do it all.
RvP may not be as huge a miss as many may think, if he is not available, but I think he will be. He's been mediocre of late, and Hollands attack comes more in waves.
But, which opponent would the Germans rather face? That is a tougher question.
A lot depends on the health/availability of their opponents. As good as Germany has been, they have been very fortunate since the start of this tournament in that all of their players have been available, sans a Hummels absence which really didn't have much effect.
If both teams are at full strength, you have to think the Germans would fare better vs the Dutch. But Argentina missing a few key players. Hmmmmmm.
I'm obviously biased as I am a fan of Germany, and have the view of a punter more than a fan for sure. German victory today is ####ed for betting, whomever they play they will be getting a lot of action.
I do think Germany wins this WC though. And I think they beat the Dutch in the finals. I'm rooting for this, not because they match up better with the Dutch, but rather, I'd rather see Brazil and Argentina play in the consolation game.
And if anyone likes action, almost every consolation game sees goals, believe every game since the mid 70s over 2.5.
For tomorrow's game, I'm playing the Dutch to advance at + odds, the dutch to win outright, and will play for the dutch to advance in ET and PKs.
But one thing I'll definitely be on is cards - should be a ton more yellows thrown tomorrow than today, as the game was without doubt by the 20'. With cards resetting, and both sides not opposed to diving - look for cards to be out. http://worldreferee.com/site/copy.php?linkID=565 With 4 and 5 cards already in previous matches, I've already played a few props on 4+ cards.
Will be very, very interesting to see who gets the final, as I don't think that's been announced yet. Could be Webby. I honestly think the best referee in the world is Rizolli from Serie A, but I do think we see Webb in the finals.
Without DiMaria, I definitely prefer the Dutch to advance tomorrow. I have no idea why Argentina such favorites here. Yeah, Messi is great, sure. But he cannot do it all.
RvP may not be as huge a miss as many may think, if he is not available, but I think he will be. He's been mediocre of late, and Hollands attack comes more in waves.
But, which opponent would the Germans rather face? That is a tougher question.
A lot depends on the health/availability of their opponents. As good as Germany has been, they have been very fortunate since the start of this tournament in that all of their players have been available, sans a Hummels absence which really didn't have much effect.
If both teams are at full strength, you have to think the Germans would fare better vs the Dutch. But Argentina missing a few key players. Hmmmmmm.
I'm obviously biased as I am a fan of Germany, and have the view of a punter more than a fan for sure. German victory today is ####ed for betting, whomever they play they will be getting a lot of action.
I do think Germany wins this WC though. And I think they beat the Dutch in the finals. I'm rooting for this, not because they match up better with the Dutch, but rather, I'd rather see Brazil and Argentina play in the consolation game.
And if anyone likes action, almost every consolation game sees goals, believe every game since the mid 70s over 2.5.
For tomorrow's game, I'm playing the Dutch to advance at + odds, the dutch to win outright, and will play for the dutch to advance in ET and PKs.
But one thing I'll definitely be on is cards - should be a ton more yellows thrown tomorrow than today, as the game was without doubt by the 20'. With cards resetting, and both sides not opposed to diving - look for cards to be out. http://worldreferee.com/site/copy.php?linkID=565 With 4 and 5 cards already in previous matches, I've already played a few props on 4+ cards.
Will be very, very interesting to see who gets the final, as I don't think that's been announced yet. Could be Webby. I honestly think the best referee in the world is Rizolli from Serie A, but I do think we see Webb in the finals.
NewlyRetired
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This game is infamous in soccer lore.WTF?! Had never heard about this before -- must've been fun to watch.
The best part was that Gentile got a yellow in the first minute and then just hacked away for the rest of the game. Maradona got a yellow for complaining to the ref about constant infringement.
Twas a different game back then.
Was it really? Not hard to believe something like that could happen today...This game is infamous in soccer lore.WTF?! Had never heard about this before -- must've been fun to watch.
The best part was that Gentile got a yellow in the first minute and then just hacked away for the rest of the game. Maradona got a yellow for complaining to the ref about constant infringement.
Twas a different game back then.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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James was fouled six times in the Q-finals and people raised hell (admittedly they were cynical fouls -- but nowhere near 23 of them). Even Howard "see no evil" Webb would get the red card out well before 20.Was it really? Not hard to believe something like that could happen today...This game is infamous in soccer lore.WTF?! Had never heard about this before -- must've been fun to watch.
The best part was that Gentile got a yellow in the first minute and then just hacked away for the rest of the game. Maradona got a yellow for complaining to the ref about constant infringement.
Twas a different game back then.
charvik
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It was awesome!This game is infamous in soccer lore. The best part was that Gentile got a yellow in the first minute and then just hacked away for the rest of the game. Maradona got a yellow for complaining to the ref about constant infringement.WTF?! Had never heard about this before -- must've been fun to watch.
Twas a different game back then.
sporthenry
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Evilgrin 72
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Steve Tasker
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He sure looked like a PJV out there today.
belljr
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a year ago I wouldn't have got this:growing:He sure looked like a PJV out there today.
oh great. werewolf shtick.a year ago I wouldn't have got this:growing:He sure looked like a PJV out there today.
Probably because Hulk said he was a BG 451 times during D1.
:X
NewlyRetired
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It could never happen today imo. I don't know how much you follow stats but 23 fouls in one game by one player is extrodinarily high (like the highest I have ever seen and I follow stats pretty in depth).Was it really? Not hard to believe something like that could happen today...This game is infamous in soccer lore.The best part was that Gentile got a yellow in the first minute and then just hacked away for the rest of the game. Maradona got a yellow for complaining to the ref about constant infringement.WTF?! Had never heard about this before -- must've been fun to watch.
Twas a different game back then.
And then 23 fouls by one player on the exact same opponent? It never happens from my observance. Maybe you have seen different but it would utterly shock me.
There is good reason this game is built into soccer's lore. Here is a snippet from one of ten thousand stories on the game
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Evilgrin 72
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oh great. werewolf shtick. :Xa year ago I wouldn't have got this:growing:He sure looked like a PJV out there today.
Probably because Hulk said he was a BG 451 times during D1.
HULK and (Boston)Fred are both players. I mean, the joke was RIGHT there, what could I do?
NewlyRetired
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To give an example for just how high 23 fouls is by one player in one game (and for now ignoring the fact that the 23 were on the same player), UEFA has statistics for the most fouls committed.
Matija Nastasic for Serbia committed a confederation high 23 fouls, which was the most in UEFA.
This 23 fouls was for the entire round of qualifying, which for Serbia was 10 games.
Matija Nastasic for Serbia committed a confederation high 23 fouls, which was the most in UEFA.
This 23 fouls was for the entire round of qualifying, which for Serbia was 10 games.
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Ilov80s
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HellToupee
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Yep.I love them both. That was so much fun to listen to.Darke is a very solid pro but he is a waste on US games since he lacks so much knowledge of the US game.
Macca is just god awful. A good color guy in soccer is so hard to get.
Did he even go out on that limb here before the game?Sorry, I'm probably nitpicking here but you've now changed your tune to "I was pessimistic". I have no doubts that you were pessimistic. I thought Brazil would lose too. But there's multiple football fields between "I don't like their chances" and "I fully expect them to lose by three". The latter is just ridiculous. If you really thought that then, again, I really hope you put down a ton of money on Germany or you missed possibly the greatest investment opportunity of your life.The squad Brazil played with today is not one of the best on the planet, not even close. They have struggled mightily in this tournament and were without their best defender and striker. I was very pessimistic about Brazil's chances today.I count only 9 game decided by 3 or more goals in this entire world cup -- and you were fully convinced one of the best squads on the planet would lose by 3? Hopefully you laid every penny you had on Germany if you were convinced.
Germany was the pretty clear favorite over a full strength Brazil based on their play. Without Neymar and Silva?
You can believe that or not, I don't really care.
HFSNot really, my vote would go to Ray Hudson or Phil Schoen. That said, Gus is better than Ian in my book. Not by a lot.So you're why we're getting Gus Johnson.Nope. I am not remotely interested in hearing English bias every time I watch a game. Neither of these guys are capable of calling a game neutrally.
Yes, it was. Now you're just being dense,Was it really? Not hard to believe something like that could happen today...This game is infamous in soccer lore.WTF?! Had never heard about this before -- must've been fun to watch.
The best part was that Gentile got a yellow in the first minute and then just hacked away for the rest of the game. Maradona got a yellow for complaining to the ref about constant infringement.
Twas a different game back then.
Mjolnirs
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I did for the US-Germany game.CletiusMaximus said:
He seems to be pretty good at it.The Gator said:
My wife told me I shouldn't have laughed at it, but I did!Jayrod said:
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Indeed
What do you think the chances are that at halftime not a single German purchased any concessions. I'm thinking everything would have tasted like spit.
The Gator
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Good at what captainwise?
I did for the US-Germany game.CletiusMaximus said:
He seems to be pretty good at it.The Gator said:
Mister CIA
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Brazilian superiority in soccer was a pipe dream; Brazilian dominance in MMA is in the past; Brazilian women are God's greatest creation.
Rohn Jambo
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Is it really worse losing 1-7 than 1-2?
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Good Posting Judge
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Mjolnirs
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He's well respected by his teammates and coaches. He's very talented, smart at the game and levelheaded. I can't find anything to confirm it, but I've heard announcers state that he has never been ejected through a red or double yellow. That all adds up to a guy that should make a pretty good leader on the field.Good at what captainwise?
I did for the US-Germany game.CletiusMaximus said:
He seems to be pretty good at it.The Gator said:
Officer Pete Malloy
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Eephus
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He's pretty good at lifting cups over his headHe's well respected by his teammates and coaches. He's very talented, smart at the game and levelheaded. I can't find anything to confirm it, but I've heard announcers state that he has never been ejected through a red or double yellow. That all adds up to a guy that should make a pretty good leader on the field.Good at what captainwise?
I did for the US-Germany game.CletiusMaximus said:
He seems to be pretty good at it.The Gator said:
Mister CIA
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WAIT A SECOND!
Is this proper numerical prose in the world of soccer fandom to refer to box score results with the losing score first? ... or is Rohn Jamo a lifelong resident of Long Island who lacks a little awareness? ... or other?
Futbol, I will not carry this baggage.
Rohn Jambo
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I like him, so it's nothing against him, it's something that I've wondered. Schweinsteiger seems the more vocal leader and getting guys under control or in their place on the field.He's well respected by his teammates and coaches. He's very talented, smart at the game and levelheaded. I can't find anything to confirm it, but I've heard announcers state that he has never been ejected through a red or double yellow. That all adds up to a guy that should make a pretty good leader on the field.Good at what captainwise?
I did for the US-Germany game.CletiusMaximus said:
He seems to be pretty good at it.The Gator said:
That's because, like young Frankenstein, Schweinsteiger must have a big Schwanstucker.I like him, so it's nothing against him, it's something that I've wondered. Schweinsteiger seems the more vocal leader and getting guys under control or in their place on the field.He's well respected by his teammates and coaches. He's very talented, smart at the game and levelheaded. I can't find anything to confirm it, but I've heard announcers state that he has never been ejected through a red or double yellow. That all adds up to a guy that should make a pretty good leader on the field.Good at what captainwise?
I did for the US-Germany game.CletiusMaximus said:He seems to be pretty good at it.The Gator said:
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Rohn Jambo
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I did.
Goal, Goal, Goal, Goal, Goal...............................Goal, Goal
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