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Official 2015 Cowboys Thread- 4-12. We won the 4th pick! (1 Viewer)
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
What I meant by that was when was the last time you saw the Pats buy big on a RB? They never do. They keep winning.
Banger
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
and what i meant is, we are not the pats, romo is not brady, garrett is not bellicheck
i do not think chopped liver can come in and replace murray, and my biggest fear is if we try and fail then the progress we made in actually trying to run the ball will be gone, and before you know it Romo is throwing to Dez all the time and the cowboys are 8-8
there's some balance between blowing 8 mil on murray or 13 on peterson and thinking anyone you put back there can be successful. our line is great, but Murray was great this season too.
B-Deep
Footballguy
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I dont see the Cowboys bringing in one of these retread RB. I just dont. There are already two on the roster and I think they are eyeing a rookie in the draft.
I may be wrong but that is the way I see it.
This team needs defensive help. Romo/Dez and the O-line will make a lot of RB look really good.
I may be wrong but that is the way I see it.
This team needs defensive help. Romo/Dez and the O-line will make a lot of RB look really good.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I'll be disappointed if they don't take advantage of this deep RB class and grab one in the first 3 rounds. I personally don't trust Randle/Williams enough and would also bring in a cheap vet.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Im still confident they'll get ADP but if not I'm with Banger; sign McFadden and Gurley.
I'd have a look at Moreno on the cheap.
I honestly believe the biggest downside is losing Murray's pass pro. (Although he did miss the block that led to the hit that broke Romos ribs.)
His insight to the Cowboys offensive game plans will help the Eagles too. Should be interesting to watch.
ETA- I'm scared to death of Randle.
I'd have a look at Moreno on the cheap.
I honestly believe the biggest downside is losing Murray's pass pro. (Although he did miss the block that led to the hit that broke Romos ribs.)
His insight to the Cowboys offensive game plans will help the Eagles too. Should be interesting to watch.
ETA- I'm scared to death of Randle.
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
Guys for real. A Peterson is NOT coming to Dallas.
There just isnt a way to fit him under the salary cap. Do some research. Read some articles. Peterson isnt taking anywhere near what the Cowboys can afford.
There just isnt a way to fit him under the salary cap. Do some research. Read some articles. Peterson isnt taking anywhere near what the Cowboys can afford.
Looking ahead to the draft now. I see Dallas signing a veteran RB like P.Thomas, Ridley or Moreno. Then a young gun in the draft.
My most recent fanspeak mock draft:
27 - R1P27
DE ARIK ARMSTEAD
OREGON
60 - R2P28
RB TODD GURLEY
GEORGIA
91 - R3P27
DT GRADY JARRETT
CLEMSON
124 - R4P28
CB SENQUEZ GOLSON
MISSISSIPPI
155 - R5P27
DT LOUIS TRINCA-PASAT
IOWA
My most recent fanspeak mock draft:
27 - R1P27
DE ARIK ARMSTEAD
OREGON
60 - R2P28
RB TODD GURLEY
GEORGIA
91 - R3P27
DT GRADY JARRETT
CLEMSON
124 - R4P28
CB SENQUEZ GOLSON
MISSISSIPPI
155 - R5P27
DT LOUIS TRINCA-PASAT
IOWA
jurb26
Footballguy
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
We either get ADP or a RB in Round 2.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
I'm still sticking with this, DL in the 1st. I think we grab a RB round 3 or later. Sucks losing Murray but hopefully Linehan/Stephen Jones have a plan. Do you guys think Dez will wind up in the same situation after the tag is up?
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Footballguy
I'm more concerned with all the defensive defections then I am letting Murray walk.
RB's haven't gone early for awhile now. I think Gordon goes end of round one.
Gurley could go end of round two.
IF they are both gone, then I like the following in round 3+
Tevin Coleman
Jay Ajayi
David Cobb
Small but fit our running game i.e. one cut guys:
Duke Johnson
Ameer Abdullah
IgglesFan
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
god i hope Peterson does not come here.
but quit telling people do there homework do their research ok? Just because someone has a different opinioon than you on if AP is an option or if the RBs on the cowboys roster are sufficient does not mean they are dumber than you.
if there's one thing YOU need to do your homework on it is that Jerry can make damn near anything happen if he sets his mind to it. And all the research in the world cannot tell you what Peterson will decide to do in the future, unless miss cleo is on your research list
B-Deep
Footballguy
I just have more faith in the Defensive coaching staff.
I fear a stutter to our running game and some pressure form Jerry and they'll go back to throwing all the time and forcing the ball to Dez. They made huge strides last year by running the ball, they need to stick with it.
Routilla
Footballguy
At this point I think we should either go DT/DE with our first pick if a good player is there. If not I'd like to trade out of the 1st rd and gain more picks. May as well keep helping our future cap situation. I like RB Gordon but it's tough to spend a 1st rounder on him with the needs on the DL. I do think a faster RB than Murray would have broken more big runs last year and should this coming season too assuming the OL remains dominant. In a strange way Randle could actually turn out to be a stud Rb behind this OL, assuming he stops getting arrested lol.
DreamTheater
Footballguy
Agree here with this.
Having to take a RB in rd 1 takes away from what IMO we really needed most, a pass rusher. Kid out of UCLA had an amazing pro day from what i hear.
Plus, too many LB defections, No faith in Lee ever staying on the field for 16 games.
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Footballguy
jkruppe
Footballguy
Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus 9m9 minutes ago
Getting word that Darren McFadden is here in the building today with the Cowboys and are working on getting a deal done.
Not sure if this is good news or not, but at least it's news.
Getting word that Darren McFadden is here in the building today with the Cowboys and are working on getting a deal done.
Not sure if this is good news or not, but at least it's news.
jkruppe
Footballguy
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 8s9 seconds ago
Cowboys have agreed to a two-year deal with Darren McFadden, per multiple reports.
Ok...I guess that was pretty fast.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Not a Cowboys fan, but this tells me that Jerruh signed McFadden to be the #2 complementary RB, not the #1.
My guess is that they don't get Adrian Peterson to agree to take a smaller salary, and they will take Melvin Gordon or Todd Gurley with their 1st round pick.
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Banger
Footballguy
jkruppe
Footballguy
Good call on a meh signing. Maybe he'll just be so dang happy to be out of Oakland that he really will resurrect his career.
So, we've signed a FB and still have Randle, Williams and Dunbar. And we're still thinking they pick up a rookie in the draft. Unless they're going to dump Randle and his stupidity, I think that might tell us what we need to know about Williams.
Banger
Footballguy
jkruppe
Footballguy
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 4m4 minutes ago
The RB market: RT @toddarcher: Source: Darren McFadden's 2-year deal worth up to $5.85 million. Receives $200,000 bonus.
Not peanuts, but depending on the 2nd year, that seems pretty cheap if we can get anything out of him at all.
jkruppe
Footballguy
I agree. But I still want to use our 1st on defense. Unless one of them falls for some reason, I think the Gordon\Gurley talk is unreasonable.
Banger
Footballguy
Bankerguy
Footballguy
jkruppe
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think it's likely that, assuming Gurley slips: Gurley+2nd round defender > late first defender+Ajayi/Coleman.
As a prospect, Gurley is elite and will come cheap. If he can give us 85% of what Murray did this year, over the course of his rookie contract, he will have been well worth a 1st round pick.
I hope the Cowboys do their homework and find a high level impact player on defense in the first. But if he's simply not there to be drafted, I don't know how anyone could take issue with Gurley there.
Hastur
Footballguy
I know we have mellowed a bit with crazy deals on draft day as of late. However, I wonder what the chances are of using this years draft picks, along with the plethora of draft picks next year, to make deals and somehow pick twice in the first round this year. Two 1st round DLinemen makes for an interesting draft.
Tyrion
Footballguy
Nice call Banger. 
The McFadden deal is a win win. If he has lost it then we can cut him with no cap issues and if he blows up like Rolando McClain did we have his rights for a second year and our top expenditure is $5.85 million over two years. He has to hit 1600 yards in both years to get that and then Jerry will have 3 consecutive GM of the year awards under his belt.
I think we have a 50/50 chance of him being a significant player for us. He plays a lot like Murray but with an extra gear, better receiving skills, and no fumbling issues. I thought he was a little soft but I saw some highlights that showed him laying the wood on some defenders. His issues were health and the fact that the Raiders were just straight awful. McFadden has the kinda speed that can kill a defense.
That being said I fully expect Dallas to draft another RB in this draft. Good signing.
The McFadden deal is a win win. If he has lost it then we can cut him with no cap issues and if he blows up like Rolando McClain did we have his rights for a second year and our top expenditure is $5.85 million over two years. He has to hit 1600 yards in both years to get that and then Jerry will have 3 consecutive GM of the year awards under his belt.
I think we have a 50/50 chance of him being a significant player for us. He plays a lot like Murray but with an extra gear, better receiving skills, and no fumbling issues. I thought he was a little soft but I saw some highlights that showed him laying the wood on some defenders. His issues were health and the fact that the Raiders were just straight awful. McFadden has the kinda speed that can kill a defense.
That being said I fully expect Dallas to draft another RB in this draft. Good signing.
Banger
Footballguy
Low risk, high reward. You draft a talented rook to mitigate the injury/McFadden risk and If the line is that good then the Cowboys should be just fine. I happen to think Murray is being undersold to a certain extent. He had a great year and es the line was good but he was terrific and made them look good as well. He's a good back he just runs too violent and gets too banged up.Nice call Banger.
The McFadden deal is a win win. If he has lost it then we can cut him with no cap issues and if he blows up like Rolando McClain did we have his rights for a second year and our top expenditure is $5.85 million over two years. He has to hit 1600 yards in both years to get that and then Jerry will have 3 consecutive GM of the year awards under his belt.
I think we have a 50/50 chance of him being a significant player for us. He plays a lot like Murray but with an extra gear, better receiving skills, and no fumbling issues. I thought he was a little soft but I saw some highlights that showed him laying the wood on some defenders. His issues were health and the fact that the Raiders were just straight awful. McFadden has the kinda speed that can kill a defense.
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That being said I fully expect Dallas to draft another RB in this draft. Good signing.
mlbnfl
Footballguy
Obviously assuming due diligence and the team is happy with what they find/hear I think I would welcome him. Certainly a lot of games to miss but the pass rush was so non existent for the most of the seasons and theres no guarantee Lawrence steps up as needed and other than Mincey being solid doesnt look like well have much of a pass rush at this rate again so I think if all checks out Id take the plunge. Obviously drafting some help would be nice too perhaps making Hardy less of a need.Routilla said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Mincey is gone. Signed elsewhere. I worry about Hardy. He got off with the law due to a technicality. He sounds like a bad character guy and don't like the thought of his presence on the team.
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mlbnfl
Footballguy
Mincey is gone? I know they let Melton go but hadnt seen Mincey. Hopefully just a name mix up or theres even fewer pass rush options than I thought.
