**Official 2015 In-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)

[ConnSKINS26]

12 team PPR, second in my division and trying to do something to replace Lewis. Must start 2 RB.

Gave:

Late 2016 2nd

Got:

Theo Riddick

 

[NattyDread]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

wtf?

 

[Deuceman]

12 team PPR

Team A got: Eli and Gurley

Team B got: Luck, J Matthews, 2016 1st and 2016 2nd

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR

Team A got: Eli and Gurley

Team B got: Luck, J Matthews, 2016 1st and 2016 2nd

Gurley

 

[ILUVBEER99]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

 

[SayWhat?]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

Agreed with the side, but not by the landslide. Make that 2nd an early 2 and that's a tougher call. Both Miller and Floyd are marginal dynasty prospects IMO and IMO overrated a bit.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

Agreed with the side, but not by the landslide. Make that 2nd an early 2 and that's a tougher call. Both Miller and Floyd are marginal dynasty prospects IMO and IMO overrated a bit.

Take Floyd out completely and its an easy value win for Miller

 

[JackReacher]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

Agreed with the side, but not by the landslide. Make that 2nd an early 2 and that's a tougher call. Both Miller and Floyd are marginal dynasty prospects IMO and IMO overrated a bit.

Take Floyd out completely and its an easy value win for Miller

I place no value in Floyd, so this trade is about Lamar. Always a big supporter of his and he has had a couple good weeks, but usage/future remain big questions for him. I don't see this as a "wtf trade" at all.

 

[JackReacher]

Went back to look at Floyd and he has played better recently while Brown is gimpy.

 

[FreshiZ]

Went back to look at Floyd and he has played better recently while Brown is gimpy.

If you read on Floyd's pedigree since high school it seems the talent is there. Of course that means nothing if he doesn't produce in the NFL but he could be more interesting with a change of teams.

 

[armchairffqb]

Went back to look at Floyd and he has played better recently while Brown is gimpy.

If you read on Floyd's pedigree since high school it seems the talent is there. Of course that means nothing if he doesn't produce in the NFL but he could be more interesting with a change of teams.

Hidden value for Floyd imo. He's had 4 TDs called back this year, 3 due to OPI. Not that it makes a difference in his current point total.

He basically sat out the first the first 3 games due to the thumb/finger injury. Brown was only out week 8, right?. And, for better or for worse, he is a FA in 2017.

 

[Soulfly3]

1PPR / 1.5 PPR TE

Gronk for Martavis and Matrellus Bennett

 

[maf005]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

Agreed with the side, but not by the landslide. Make that 2nd an early 2 and that's a tougher call. Both Miller and Floyd are marginal dynasty prospects IMO and IMO overrated a bit.

Take Floyd out completely and its an easy value win for Miller

I place no value in Floyd, so this trade is about Lamar. Always a big supporter of his and he has had a couple good weeks, but usage/future remain big questions for him. I don't see this as a "wtf trade" at all.

Time to buy the 24 year old rb with a career ypc of 4.7 (5.3 this year)

 

[JackReacher]

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

Agreed with the side, but not by the landslide. Make that 2nd an early 2 and that's a tougher call. Both Miller and Floyd are marginal dynasty prospects IMO and IMO overrated a bit.

Take Floyd out completely and its an easy value win for Miller

I place no value in Floyd, so this trade is about Lamar. Always a big supporter of his and he has had a couple good weeks, but usage/future remain big questions for him. I don't see this as a "wtf trade" at all.

Time to buy the 24 year old rb with a career ypc of 4.7 (5.3 this year)

Agree on Lamar.. Just have no faith in Floyd long term. My overall opinion is fair trade for both sides

 

[maxhyde]

Team A gives:

Luck, Andrew

Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Thomas, Julius JAC TE

-for-

Team B gives:

Wilson, Russell

Cooper, Amari

Watkins, Sammy BUF WR

I was team A. Hated trading Luck and Bell away, but at 7-2 with a MASH unit of an offense, I went all in for this year. Salary/contract year league. The move did save me a chunk of money. Flame away.

I'll probably be in the minority here but as "all in this year" trades go that's pretty good expected future value.I'm probably one of the Wr-heaviest dyno owners strategy wise though.

However, as far as "all-in this year" trades go that's also pretty mediocre value for this year.

Agree with this.

 

[maxhyde]

1PPR / 1.5 PPR TE

Gronk for Martavis and Matrellus Bennett

Gronk

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

Agreed with the side, but not by the landslide. Make that 2nd an early 2 and that's a tougher call. Both Miller and Floyd are marginal dynasty prospects IMO and IMO overrated a bit.

Take Floyd out completely and its an easy value win for Miller

I place no value in Floyd, so this trade is about Lamar. Always a big supporter of his and he has had a couple good weeks, but usage/future remain big questions for him. I don't see this as a "wtf trade" at all.

If Floyd wasn't in the deal it would make more sense. Whether you "value" Floyd or not getting him for free is something I can't do anywhere.

So I think that is where the wtf comes from.

 

[soothsayer]

10 team performance; 1Q/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex

Decided to pull the plug on this season - made two deals:

Gave Woodhead and TY Hilton

Received Winston, 1 1st (likely 1.5-1.8) and 2 2nds

Gave Forte

Received K Benjamin

 

[JackReacher]

1PPR / 1.5 PPR TE

Gronk for Martavis and Matrellus Bennett

Gronk

12 team, 1/2 PPR, QB-RB-3WR-TE-1Flex RB/WR

Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd -- both mid to late

Receive: Lamar Miller and Michael Floyd

ouch, miller/floyd side by a landslide.

Agreed with the side, but not by the landslide. Make that 2nd an early 2 and that's a tougher call. Both Miller and Floyd are marginal dynasty prospects IMO and IMO overrated a bit.

Take Floyd out completely and its an easy value win for Miller

I place no value in Floyd, so this trade is about Lamar. Always a big supporter of his and he has had a couple good weeks, but usage/future remain big questions for him. I don't see this as a "wtf trade" at all.

If Floyd wasn't in the deal it would make more sense. Whether you "value" Floyd or not getting him for free is something I can't do anywhere.So I think that is where the wtf comes from.

Lamar=mid-firstFloyd=second

That's how I see it but everyone has different player values

 

[CR69]

10 team performance; 1Q/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex

Decided to pull the plug on this season - made two deals:

Gave Woodhead and TY Hilton

Received Winston, 1 1st (likely 1.5-1.8) and 2 2nds

Gave Forte

Received K Benjamin

Well done on both trades

 

[maxhyde]

10 team performance; 1Q/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex

Decided to pull the plug on this season - made two deals:

Gave Woodhead and TY Hilton

Received Winston, 1 1st (likely 1.5-1.8) and 2 2nds

Gave Forte

Received K Benjamin

I think you did well to reload for next year.

Good haul for Hilton considering his new QB situation for the next month

 

[Spike]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts, no salary

Gave: Gurley, Cooper, Ryan

Got: Bortles, Evans, Ivory, Robinson, Perriman, 2016 2nd (mid) 2017 2nd (mid)

Awful move. I think Gurley and Cooper are the best 2 players in the deal.

 

[Blick]

Freeman for D. Murray and a first.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts, no salary

Gave: Gurley, Cooper, Ryan

Got: Bortles, Evans, Ivory, Robinson, Perriman, 2016 2nd (mid) 2017 2nd (mid)

Awful move. I think Gurley and Cooper are the best 2 players in the deal.

It's a Super Flex league so as odd as it may sound, Bortles may be the most valuable player in that deal.

 

[tangfoot]

Sold draft picks early in the season to take my shot. Through REALLY bad luck of the schedule I'm 3-6 (losing three times to the highest score in the league, twice while having the #2 high score.)

Sold Ryan Mathews and Larry Fitzgerald for a 2016 1st.

 

[opensourcebeer]

16 team ppr, start qrwwtffkd

Team A (currently 2-7) gave: Danny Woodhead, Team A's 2016 3rd

Team B (currently 8-1) gave: 2016 2nd (late), 2016 2nd (late), $89 blind bidding bucks (start with $100 for in season use, does not carry over)

 

[maxhyde]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts, no salary

Gave: Gurley, Cooper, Ryan

Got: Bortles, Evans, Ivory, Robinson, Perriman, 2016 2nd (mid) 2017 2nd (mid)

Awful move. I think Gurley and Cooper are the best 2 players in the deal.

It's a Super Flex league so as odd as it may sound, Bortles may be the most valuable player in that deal.

I like Ryan > Bortles but I think the QB's at least have a case as being the top players and as a wash.

Evans and Cooper are probably equal for some (not me) and I assume that is Allen Robinson/Ivory/Perriman/2nd(x2) for Gurley.

Anyway I doubt I would make that deal as the Ryan/Gurley/Cooper owner but can totally see where the other side feels like they got value

 

[maxhyde]

16 team ppr, start qrwwtffkd

Team A (currently 2-7) gave: Danny Woodhead, Team A's 2016 3rd

Team B (currently 8-1) gave: 2016 2nd (late), 2016 2nd (late), $89 blind bidding bucks (start with $100 for in season use, does not carry over)

Decent for a start 1Rb league

 

[maxhyde]

Sold draft picks early in the season to take my shot. Through REALLY bad luck of the schedule I'm 3-6 (losing three times to the highest score in the league, twice while having the #2 high score.)

Sold Ryan Mathews and Larry Fitzgerald for a 2016 1st.

Good deal for you regardless of situation imo. I can't get anywhere close to a 1st for Fitz in my leagues

 

[tangfoot]

Sold draft picks early in the season to take my shot. Through REALLY bad luck of the schedule I'm 3-6 (losing three times to the highest score in the league, twice while having the #2 high score.)

Sold Ryan Mathews and Larry Fitzgerald for a 2016 1st.

Good deal for you regardless of situation imo. I can't get anywhere close to a 1st for Fitz in my leagues

Nice profit for me considering I bought Fitz for a pair of 3rds a month ago.

 

[bfan85]

Gave: DeAngelo Williama
Received: Devin Funchess + 2016 2nd

 

[Uncle Grandpa]

Deep 32-team IDP salary cap league, start 21 players, so if you have a player that accumulates any kind of stats in the NFL, you start him.

Team A (top 5 team) gives: 2016 2nd (probably 60-64th overall), 2016 4th (105-110 overall) and 2016 5th (130th overall)

to

Team B (packing it in this year) for Stevie Johnson (2-year contract, 6% of cap contract).

 

[ghostguy123]

1PPR / 1.5 PPR TE

Gronk for Martavis and Matrellus Bennett

Ugly. stupid ugly

 

[ghostguy123]

Agree on Lamar.. Just have no faith in Floyd long term. My overall opinion is fair trade for both sides

Define "fair". The value isn't good there.

 

[SayWhat?]

Agree on Lamar.. Just have no faith in Floyd long term. My overall opinion is fair trade for both sides

Define "fair". The value isn't good there.

But really, how far off is it? Just don't see Miller going for much more than a mid-1st, and while Floyd is worth more than a mid-2nd it isn't by a whole hell of a lot. I'd have a difficult time deciding between Floyd and an early 2nd, and I sure wouldn't part with a 1st for him. So IMO the value is off by the diff of an early vs mid 2nd rookie pick. I wouldn't call that unfair.

 

[kyter1]

12 TM PPR qb 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE

Gave: Karlos Williams & 2016 1st (3-6)

Got: Murray 2016 1st (hoping 12 it's mine back) & 2nd (3-6)

Needed to make a move had Lacy & Bell.

 

[ghostguy123]

Agree on Lamar.. Just have no faith in Floyd long term. My overall opinion is fair trade for both sides

Define "fair". The value isn't good there.

But really, how far off is it? Just don't see Miller going for much more than a mid-1st, and while Floyd is worth more than a mid-2nd it isn't by a whole hell of a lot. I'd have a difficult time deciding between Floyd and an early 2nd, and I sure wouldn't part with a 1st for him. So IMO the value is off by the diff of an early vs mid 2nd rookie pick. I wouldn't call that unfair.

Picture a startup draft right now. Where does Miller go?

Where does a 2016 mid 1st go?

Nuff said on that one regarding value.

 

[ghostguy123]

Regarding Miller, since the coaching change from a total idiot who never gave Miller the ball to ANYONE ELSE who now give Miller the ball, he has blown up. Even after that non existent first few weeks he is top 5 in RB scoring, and a couple guys ahead of him havent hadtheir bye yet.

For a future mid 1st?? Who were the mid 1sts this year again?? Outside of Cooper and Guyley who were obvious talents, what is anyone else doing? Do all their numbers combined even equal Miller? Do they look like good values moving forward?

It's just a silly move. If course it COULD work out. So could dealing Miller for a 2016 5th rounder. If you dont like Miller much and think heis overrated, fine. Get a better deal than some future mid 1st. That is ugly for a 24 year old top 3-4 scoring RB who is getting better and better, especially after they fired a moronic coach.

 

[JackReacher]

Regarding Miller, since the coaching change from a total idiot who never gave Miller the ball to ANYONE ELSE who now give Miller the ball, he has blown up. Even after that non existent first few weeks he is top 5 in RB scoring, and a couple guys ahead of him havent hadtheir bye yet.

For a future mid 1st?? Who were the mid 1sts this year again?? Outside of Cooper and Guyley who were obvious talents, what is anyone else doing? Do all their numbers combined even equal Miller? Do they look like good values moving forward?

It's just a silly move. If course it COULD work out. So could dealing Miller for a 2016 5th rounder. If you dont like Miller much and think heis overrated, fine. Get a better deal than some future mid 1st. That is ugly for a 24 year old top 3-4 scoring RB who is getting better and better, especially after they fired a moronic coach.

Ok- again, I see Floyd properly valued as a second. I would not spend a first on him and doubt you would also.To Lamar... as Miami-area high school, UM and Dolphins fan, I have watched Lamar for ten years. Certainly doesn't make me an expert, but I know a good deal about him. I personally think he's worth a mid-first. Certainly wouldn't give two firsts on the belief he is going to one day get a big spike in usage. He has done great in limited opportunities but I just don't see him as a workhorse back. Never have. And so far he has never proven me wrong.

As you know, start-up values only matter when drafting, not mid-season. If we were just using the start-up chart, trades would never get made.

 

[maxhyde]

Ha.

I wish I could get Floyd for a mid-2nd.

Offered Edelman in one PPR league and Marshall in another both expired...not accepted...to teams in the hunt or in the playoffs

 

[JackReacher]

Ha.

I wish I could get Floyd for a mid-2nd.

Offered Edelman in one PPR league and Marshall in another both expired...not accepted...to teams in the hunt or in the playoffs

Those were both strong offers and I would have quickly accepted both.

 

[maxhyde]

Ha.

I wish I could get Floyd for a mid-2nd.

Offered Edelman in one PPR league and Marshall in another both expired...not accepted...to teams in the hunt or in the playoffs

Those were both strong offers and I would have quickly accepted both.

Everyone should...that was why I offered them

I offered Steve Smith/late 1st for Floyd/mid 2nd to the owner (Marshall) before Smith got injured and was rejected too

Anyway just to show you not everyone thinks so little of Floyd...me included

 

[ghostguy123]

Regarding Miller, since the coaching change from a total idiot who never gave Miller the ball to ANYONE ELSE who now give Miller the ball, he has blown up. Even after that non existent first few weeks he is top 5 in RB scoring, and a couple guys ahead of him havent hadtheir bye yet.

For a future mid 1st?? Who were the mid 1sts this year again?? Outside of Cooper and Guyley who were obvious talents, what is anyone else doing? Do all their numbers combined even equal Miller? Do they look like good values moving forward?

It's just a silly move. If course it COULD work out. So could dealing Miller for a 2016 5th rounder. If you dont like Miller much and think heis overrated, fine. Get a better deal than some future mid 1st. That is ugly for a 24 year old top 3-4 scoring RB who is getting better and better, especially after they fired a moronic coach.

Ok- again, I see Floyd properly valued as a second. I would not spend a first on him and doubt you would also.To Lamar... as Miami-area high school, UM and Dolphins fan, I have watched Lamar for ten years. Certainly doesn't make me an expert, but I know a good deal about him. I personally think he's worth a mid-first. Certainly wouldn't give two firsts on the belief he is going to one day get a big spike in usage. He has done great in limited opportunities but I just don't see him as a workhorse back. Never have. And so far he has never proven me wrong.

As you know, start-up values only matter when drafting, not mid-season. If we were just using the start-up chart, trades would never get made.

So which mid 1st rookie from this year are you taking over Miller? Feel free to have your pick of the litter.

I said, if you dont like Miller then fine, but have the sense to know you can get MORE than a future mid 1st for him in every league in the world.

 

[JackReacher]

Regarding Miller, since the coaching change from a total idiot who never gave Miller the ball to ANYONE ELSE who now give Miller the ball, he has blown up. Even after that non existent first few weeks he is top 5 in RB scoring, and a couple guys ahead of him havent hadtheir bye yet.

For a future mid 1st?? Who were the mid 1sts this year again?? Outside of Cooper and Guyley who were obvious talents, what is anyone else doing? Do all their numbers combined even equal Miller? Do they look like good values moving forward?

It's just a silly move. If course it COULD work out. So could dealing Miller for a 2016 5th rounder. If you dont like Miller much and think heis overrated, fine. Get a better deal than some future mid 1st. That is ugly for a 24 year old top 3-4 scoring RB who is getting better and better, especially after they fired a moronic coach.

Ok- again, I see Floyd properly valued as a second. I would not spend a first on him and doubt you would also.To Lamar... as Miami-area high school, UM and Dolphins fan, I have watched Lamar for ten years. Certainly doesn't make me an expert, but I know a good deal about him. I personally think he's worth a mid-first. Certainly wouldn't give two firsts on the belief he is going to one day get a big spike in usage. He has done great in limited opportunities but I just don't see him as a workhorse back. Never have. And so far he has never proven me wrong.

As you know, start-up values only matter when drafting, not mid-season. If we were just using the start-up chart, trades would never get made.

So which mid 1st rookie from this year are you taking over Miller? Feel free to have your pick of the litter.

I said, if you dont like Miller then fine, but have the sense to know you can get MORE than a future mid 1st for him in every league in the world.

If your point is, don't sell Lamar for a mid-first, I have no problem with that. Depending on roster construction, he is a hold for me at that price. I just don't think it's "wtf" great trade to acquire Lamar & Floyd for that. Again, fair trade. But obviously, MaxHyde (respect his opinion) values Floyd higher. Just knowing you from reading your posts, I don't think you share his opinion on Floyd. Could be wrong.Edit- MaxHyde- we do agree on Benjamin. Like you, I have been a major supporter from day one.

 

[ghostguy123]

If you take Floyd out it is still kinda of WTF for me. With Floyd it's an obvious WTF.

No matter how you look at it, the value of the deal is an obvious WTF. You can't build a good team making obvious WTF value moves.

That guy is probably going to take Miller and some decent WR like a Marshall or something and make another WTF value move for a guy like Julio or Hopkins or something.

Deals like this for Miller are precursors for deals like that. It's coming.

 

[ghostguy123]

As you know, start-up values only matter when drafting, not mid-season. If we were just using the start-up chart, trades would never get made.

In response to this, I very much disagree. Start up value isnt the end all be all of course, but it definitely matters.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts, no salary

Gave: Gurley, Cooper, Ryan

Got: Bortles, Evans, Ivory, Robinson, Perriman, 2016 2nd (mid) 2017 2nd (mid)

Awful move. I think Gurley and Cooper are the best 2 players in the deal.

It's a Super Flex league so as odd as it may sound, Bortles may be the most valuable player in that deal.

I like Ryan > Bortles but I think the QB's at least have a case as being the top players and as a wash.Evans and Cooper are probably equal for some (not me) and I assume that is Allen Robinson/Ivory/Perriman/2nd(x2) for Gurley.

Anyway I doubt I would make that deal as the Ryan/Gurley/Cooper owner but can totally see where the other side feels like they got value

Yeah somehow missed Ryan.

 

[SayWhat?]

Regarding Miller, since the coaching change from a total idiot who never gave Miller the ball to ANYONE ELSE who now give Miller the ball, he has blown up. Even after that non existent first few weeks he is top 5 in RB scoring, and a couple guys ahead of him havent hadtheir bye yet.

For a future mid 1st?? Who were the mid 1sts this year again?? Outside of Cooper and Guyley who were obvious talents, what is anyone else doing? Do all their numbers combined even equal Miller? Do they look like good values moving forward?

It's just a silly move. If course it COULD work out. So could dealing Miller for a 2016 5th rounder. If you dont like Miller much and think heis overrated, fine. Get a better deal than some future mid 1st. That is ugly for a 24 year old top 3-4 scoring RB who is getting better and better, especially after they fired a moronic coach.

Ok- again, I see Floyd properly valued as a second. I would not spend a first on him and doubt you would also.To Lamar... as Miami-area high school, UM and Dolphins fan, I have watched Lamar for ten years. Certainly doesn't make me an expert, but I know a good deal about him. I personally think he's worth a mid-first. Certainly wouldn't give two firsts on the belief he is going to one day get a big spike in usage. He has done great in limited opportunities but I just don't see him as a workhorse back. Never have. And so far he has never proven me wrong.

As you know, start-up values only matter when drafting, not mid-season. If we were just using the start-up chart, trades would never get made.

So which mid 1st rookie from this year are you taking over Miller? Feel free to have your pick of the litter.

I said, if you dont like Miller then fine, but have the sense to know you can get MORE than a future mid 1st for him in every league in the world.

I'd take Yeldon over him. From last year? Beckham, Cooks, and Freeman for sure. But it's silly cherry picking. So as long as we're talking about Miller's value relative to a 1st...what is it in your opinion? Rookie 1.01? 1.02? 1.03? 1.04? As the other poster said, I'd pass on a mid 1st in all likelihood, but I definitely wouldn't expect to receive a significant amount more than that for him in a trade.

You're clearly sky high on him, believe all his early career woes were directly related to coaching, and don't have any further concerns about him and his dynasty value. That's fine. Just think that'll be a fun one to look back on in a year and see if it's anywhere near a "WTF" trade. Feel pretty confident that it won't be but that's tge fun of this hobby.

 

[ghostguy123]

I'd take Yeldon over him. From last year? Beckham, Cooks, and Freeman for sure. But it's silly cherry picking. So as long as we're talking about Miller's value relative to a 1st...what is it in your opinion? Rookie 1.01? 1.02? 1.03? 1.04? As the other poster said, I'd pass on a mid 1st in all likelihood, but I definitely wouldn't expect to receive a significant amount more than that for him in a trade.You're clearly sky high on him, believe all his early career woes were directly related to coaching, and don't have any further concerns about him and his dynasty value. That's fine. Just think that'll be a fun one to look back on in a year and see if it's anywhere near a "WTF" trade. Feel pretty confident that it won't be but that's tge fun of this hobby.

There are many different ways to look at a trade. Value NOW, and value later. What is happening NOW, and what could happen later.

No, I am not sky high on Miller at all. But I am not dealing him for half what you should get in return.

The deal makes no sense even if the team dealing Miller is rebuilding. Miller is 24. You wanna deal Miller? Fine, get more. Get two 1sts. Get a 1st and an upside young player. Trade him to a team who is competing who has an injured player like Bell, even if you have to give plenty more.

Dealing him for a mid future 1st??? Ugly

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Dealing him for a mid future 1st??? Ugly

I think we get it.