**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (4 Viewers)

[All_Day27]

Here's Another mildly yucky one: 12 team PPR

Jordy for Cruz, DeSean, Moncrief

Mad Max Dynasty?

Yeah, I was shocked that Jordy was sold for that price. Would have been nice to know that he was available.

 

[msudaisy26]

Here's Another mildly yucky one: 12 team PPR

Jordy for Cruz, DeSean, Moncrief

Mad Max Dynasty?

Yeah, I was shocked that Jordy was sold for that price. Would have been nice to know that he was available.

Yeah that is a horrible price for Jordy and I don't like seeing it because I just took over a team that has Jordy and needs to be rebuilt, funny thing that you wish he knew he was available. I put him on the block the moment I took over the team and I have got one extremely low ball offer for him.

 

[msudaisy26]

12 Team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

Team A trades pick 2.10 and QB Josh McCown

Team B trades QB Andy Dalton

Man, you're in bad shape to be trading for Andy Dalton, haha. That's a normal flex, yeah, not superflex?

No kidding, I would take just the 2.10 over Dalton

 

[msudaisy26]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper for me, but I don't think Mathews is going to ever be the guy and I think Cooper is going to be very very good.

 

[msudaisy26]

12 teamer

1.03

for

1.06

2.06

I think you can do better than 2.06 to move back fro #3 to #6...or keeping it is a better option

Here is one that is at the other end of the spectrum:

12 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only

Team A received 1.04

Team B received 1.06, 1.07, $85 f/a cash (each team gets $500 per year that rolls over)

1.06 and 1.07 I know there is a big drop off after the first 4 or 5, but give me 2 of these guys Agholor, Abdullah, Yeldon, Parker over White or Gordon.

 

[msudaisy26]

12 team ppr.

Gave

Sims and 3.08

Got

Torrey Smith and 4.07

Figured all SF defensive players are retiring, so they are gonna have to score a bunch !

Very close I think I would take Sims. Yes, the 49ers are going to have to score, but can Kap march them down the field enough?

 

[msudaisy26]

12 team PPR:

Traded 1.6 (DGB was the pick) for 1.11, 2.4, 2.12

Traded 1.11 (Coleman) down to 2.2 and picked up the 2.8.

Traded 2.2 (Duke) down to 2.9 and picked up 2.11

Altogether I moved down from 1.6 to 2.4 (Mariota) and picked up 2.8, 2.9, 2.11 and 2.12.

I don't like it. I feel like there is a big drop off around 2.8. So unless you are drafting with guys that will reach I think you gained some value, but lost out on the talent.

 

[Tau837]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper and it's not close IMO. I think he is a top 10 dynasty WR right now.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper and it's not close IMO. I think he is a top 10 dynasty WR right now.

 

[cstu]

12 team PPR:

Traded 1.6 (DGB was the pick) for 1.11, 2.4, 2.12

Traded 1.11 (Coleman) down to 2.2 and picked up the 2.8.

Traded 2.2 (Duke) down to 2.9 and picked up 2.11

Altogether I moved down from 1.6 to 2.4 (Mariota) and picked up 2.8, 2.9, 2.11 and 2.12.

I don't like it. I feel like there is a big drop off around 2.8. So unless you are drafting with guys that will reach I think you gained some value, but lost out on the talent.

So far it's 1.6 for Mariota, David Johnson, Devin Smith - with the 2.11 and 2.12 coming up.

We'll see...I just wasn't a believer in the players at 1.6 and needed more talent.

 

[jeaton6]

Here's Another mildly yucky one: 12 team PPR

Jordy for Cruz, DeSean, Moncrief

Mad Max Dynasty?Yeah, I was shocked that Jordy was sold for that price. Would have been nice to know that he was available.

Yep. Not surprising given some of the trades we've seen from that owner.

 

[cdubz]

12 team PPR:

Traded 1.6 (DGB was the pick) for 1.11, 2.4, 2.12

Traded 1.11 (Coleman) down to 2.2 and picked up the 2.8.

Traded 2.2 (Duke) down to 2.9 and picked up 2.11

Altogether I moved down from 1.6 to 2.4 (Mariota) and picked up 2.8, 2.9, 2.11 and 2.12.

I don't like it. I feel like there is a big drop off around 2.8. So unless you are drafting with guys that will reach I think you gained some value, but lost out on the talent.

So far it's 1.6 for Mariota, David Johnson, Devin Smith - with the 2.11 and 2.12 coming up.

We'll see...I just wasn't a believer in the players at 1.6 and needed more talent.

I think this is a big determinant, I have some rosters where this wouldn't be useful due to roster space. If you had the dead weight to cut, this seems like a huge value gain.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

12 teamer

1.03

for

1.06

2.06

I think you can do better than 2.06 to move back fro #3 to #6...or keeping it is a better option

Here is one that is at the other end of the spectrum:

12 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only

Team A received 1.04

Team B received 1.06, 1.07, $85 f/a cash (each team gets $500 per year that rolls over)

1.06 and 1.07 I know there is a big drop off after the first 4 or 5, but give me 2 of these guys Agholor, Abdullah, Yeldon, Parker over White or Gordon.

Yeah, it wasn't my trade, but I think the 6+7 side crushed it.

 

[scifijon]

J.Reed, Blackmon

For

'16 2nd (26ish overall), sanu, cadet

 

[Run It Up]

J.Reed, Blackmon

For

'16 2nd (26ish overall), sanu, cadet

Pick, Sanu and Cadet.

 

[cstu]

12 team PPR:

Traded 1.6 (DGB was the pick) for 1.11, 2.4, 2.12

Traded 1.11 (Coleman) down to 2.2 and picked up the 2.8.

Traded 2.2 (Duke) down to 2.9 and picked up 2.11

Altogether I moved down from 1.6 to 2.4 (Mariota) and picked up 2.8, 2.9, 2.11 and 2.12.

I don't like it. I feel like there is a big drop off around 2.8. So unless you are drafting with guys that will reach I think you gained some value, but lost out on the talent.

So far it's 1.6 for Mariota, David Johnson, Devin Smith - with the 2.11 and 2.12 coming up.

We'll see...I just wasn't a believer in the players at 1.6 and needed more talent.

I think this is a big determinant, I have some rosters where this wouldn't be useful due to roster space. If you had the dead weight to cut, this seems like a huge value gain.

Here's who I dropped: Geno, Oliver, Dion Sims, Ryan Grant, and Bruce Ellington.

Here's who I drafted with the picks received for the 1.6: Mariota, David Johnson, Devin Smith, Cobb (Sankey owner), and Conley.

 

[Hoot&HoLLer]

Interesting picks being made during rookie draft. 12 team ppr, all td=6

q,r,r,w,w,te,f,k,d/st

1.01 Melvin Gordon, RB SD Chargers

1.02 Todd Gurley, RB STL Rams

1.03 Amari Cooper, WR, Oak Raiders

1.04 Kevin White, WR Chi Bears

1.05 Tevin Coleman, RB Atl Falcons

1.06 Jameis Winston, QB TB Bucs

1.07 Duke Johnson, RB Cle Browns

Team B trades picks 2.10 and 2.11 to team A for pick 2.01.

 

[msudaisy26]

Interesting picks being made during rookie draft. 12 team ppr, all td=6

q,r,r,w,w,te,f,k,d/st

1.01 Melvin Gordon, RB SD Chargers

1.02 Todd Gurley, RB STL Rams

1.03 Amari Cooper, WR, Oak Raiders

1.04 Kevin White, WR Chi Bears

1.05 Tevin Coleman, RB Atl Falcons

1.06 Jameis Winston, QB TB Bucs

1.07 Duke Johnson, RB Cle Browns

Team B trades picks 2.10 and 2.11 to team A for pick 2.01.

2.01. With the start of this draft there is going to be a very very good player that falls to that spot.

 

[cdubz]

Interesting picks being made during rookie draft. 12 team ppr, all td=6

q,r,r,w,w,te,f,k,d/st

1.01 Melvin Gordon, RB SD Chargers

1.02 Todd Gurley, RB STL Rams

1.03 Amari Cooper, WR, Oak Raiders

1.04 Kevin White, WR Chi Bears

1.05 Tevin Coleman, RB Atl Falcons

1.06 Jameis Winston, QB TB Bucs

1.07 Duke Johnson, RB Cle Browns

Team B trades picks 2.10 and 2.11 to team A for pick 2.01.

Well given 1.05-1.07, 1 of my top 10 (tier break) would be there at 2.01. So I'll take that side.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

12 team ppr qrwwwtff

Jimmy Graham and John Brown for

Sammy Watkins and Vernon Davis

Sammy for me

one of those vacuum opinions I see. anyone who needs a TE who gets Graham for a Bills WR no matter the hype is a win in my book.

 

[One More Rep]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper

 

[msudaisy26]

Team A: Adrian Peterson

Team B: Travis Kelce & 2015 2.6

Wow, peanuts for AP.

Really?I think its pretty close and am leaning the Kelce side. I have Kelce as my TE3. How many more years you think we're gonna get out of ADP?

The 2.06 isn't a terrible pick either.

I think this is pretty much even.

 

[pizzatyme]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper

I love Cooper as much as the next guy, but Mathews is no slouch and to add a RB2 for me, I'll take the value there. Raiders are a black hole for offensive players.

 

[msudaisy26]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper

I love Cooper as much as the next guy, but Mathews is no slouch and to add a RB2 for me, I'll take the value there. Raiders are a black hole for offensive players.

People said the same thing about Seattle 4 or 5 years ago.

 

[thriftyrocker]

12 team PPR

Julius for Ertz

 

[Tau837]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper

I love Cooper as much as the next guy, but Mathews is no slouch and to add a RB2 for me, I'll take the value there. Raiders are a black hole for offensive players.

To each his own, but IMO it isn't winning strategy to draft a top 10 dynasty WR and trade him away before he ever plays a game for a fringe top 30 WR and RB2. The other owner got the best player in the deal and gained a roster spot, two things I always try to do in dynasty trades.

 

[thriftyrocker]

To each his own, but IMO it isn't winning strategy to draft a top 10 dynasty WR and trade him away before he ever plays a game for a fringe top 30 WR and RB2. The other owner got the best player in the deal and gained a roster spot, two things I always try to do in dynasty trades.

Everyone's rankings are different but according to ADP it's WR14 vs. WR19.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper

I love Cooper as much as the next guy, but Mathews is no slouch and to add a RB2 for me, I'll take the value there. Raiders are a black hole for offensive players.

Blows my mind when people judge a team based on a past with different owner/coaches/players/etc.

David Carr had a very promising rookie year, for a rookie a 21-12 TD/INT ratio is outstanding. The Raiders of today are a completely different team than 5 years ago when Al Davis was running the show. It takes time to wipe away incompetence and judging the franchise today vs the one when he was in charge doesn't make sense.

Amari Cooper is a top 5 NFL draft pick without any character/injury concerns. He's a much better bet than Jordan Mathews to become a staple top fantasy WR (and i like Jordan Mathews).

You don't give up a blue chip for a solid yet unspectacular WR and a middle of the road RB who hasn't done much of anything in the NFL.

 

[Tau837]

To each his own, but IMO it isn't winning strategy to draft a top 10 dynasty WR and trade him away before he ever plays a game for a fringe top 30 WR and RB2. The other owner got the best player in the deal and gained a roster spot, two things I always try to do in dynasty trades.

Everyone's rankings are different but according to ADP it's WR14 vs. WR19.

Is that ADP only including post NFL draft dynasty drafts (so no mixing in of drafts before Philly took Agholor)? I'm surprised at both of those ADPs, but my previous post better reflects how I view these two players. I'd be thrilled to get Cooper at WR14.

 

[thriftyrocker]

To each his own, but IMO it isn't winning strategy to draft a top 10 dynasty WR and trade him away before he ever plays a game for a fringe top 30 WR and RB2. The other owner got the best player in the deal and gained a roster spot, two things I always try to do in dynasty trades.

Everyone's rankings are different but according to ADP it's WR14 vs. WR19.

Is that ADP only including post NFL draft dynasty drafts (so no mixing in of drafts before Philly took Agholor)? I'm surprised at both of those ADPs, but my previous post better reflects how I view these two players. I'd be thrilled to get Cooper at WR14.

DLF May drafts, all post-NFL-draft. Agholor is WR33.

 

[cstu]

I could see Matthews and a good player, but Ingram?

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Here are the WR's drafted in the top 5 over the past 10 years. The only busts are guys who had off the field issues. (Cooper and Watkins still to be determined). Looks like unless they are alcoholics the odds are pretty damn good they become top notch players.

2015 Amari Cooper (4)

2014 Sammy Watkins (4)
2012 Justin Blackmon (5) Drug/Alcohol issues
2011 AJ Green (4)
2007 Calvin Johnson (2)
2005 Braylon Edwards (3) Alcohol issues
2004 Larry Fitzgerald (3)

 

[thriftyrocker]

David Carr had a very promising rookie year, for a rookie a 21-12 TD/INT ratio is outstanding. The Raiders of today are a completely different team than 5 years ago when Al Davis was running the show.

In composition but not talent level. They still have few good players. This is a team that pursued Trent Richardson, Nate Allen, and J'Marcus Webb in free agency. Mack was a good pick, and I hope Cooper was one too, but they haven't really improved. Derek Carr (not David) had the lowest Y/A in the NFL last year by more than half a yard.

 

[jeaton6]

12 team PPR

Gore, Reed, 2016 2 (1-6)

For

Quick, Janis, Ladarius Green, 2016 3 (9-12)

 

[Pwingles]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper and it's not close IMO. I think he is a top 10 dynasty WR right now.

*checks timestamp* *realizes its not the future* *is confused at this 'knowledge'*

 

[Tau837]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper and it's not close IMO. I think he is a top 10 dynasty WR right now.

*checks timestamp* *realizes its not the future* *is confused at this 'knowledge'*

Yeah, you do seem confused. I rank Cooper as a top 10 dynasty WR right now, which is not in the future. HTH.

 

[matttyl]

A buddy and I, in an effort to "wake the league up" traded entire rosters this week. We both feel we lost on the trade, but thought it was fun non the less. 10 teamer - start 1 qb, 1 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1 k, IDPs - 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db

Team A traded

Rodgers, RG3, Dalton

Lacy, Forte, Foster, Spiller, other crap

Keenan Allen, Percy Harvin, Nick Toon, Duron Carter, other crap

Gronk, Ebron

Dan Bailey

Ninkovich, Mario Williams (grandfathered as a DL)

Lavonte David, Brandon Marshall

Reshad Jones, Harrison Smith, Eric Weddle

#1, #2, and #3 rookie picks in order

Team B traded

Brees, Foles, Eli

McCoy, J Charles, Peterson, Sankey

Calvin, Julio, V Jax, Andre Johnson, Maclin, Patterson, M Lee

Graham, Kelce, Eifert, Amaro, Housler

Vinatieri, Tucker

Chandler Jones, Dunlap, C Campbell

Jamie Collins, Laurinaitis, Bobby Wagner, K Robinson, Mayo

Morgan Burnett, Kam Chancellor, D Bucannon, Bradley Roby

nothing but very late rookie picks (#40+)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

12 Team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

Team A trades pick 2.10 and QB Josh McCown

Team B trades QB Andy Dalton

Man, you're in bad shape to be trading for Andy Dalton, haha. That's a normal flex, yeah, not superflex?

No kidding, I would take just the 2.10 over Dalton

I don't think anyone feels "great" about trading for Andy Dalton but he did finish as QB3 in 2013 and he does get a healthy AJ Green (who was banged up for a good part of 2014), Tyler Eifert and Marvin Jones back this season.

 

[cstu]

The Rodgers team easily. Very weak WR's but that would instantly be fixed by taking Cooper, White, and Parker.

 

[maxhyde]

Yeah, you do seem confused. I rank Cooper as a top 10 dynasty WR right now, which is not in the future. HTH.

That is an incredibly optimistic and aggressive ranking you have.

 

[Pwingles]

Yeah, you do seem confused. I rank Cooper as a top 10 dynasty WR right now, which is not in the future. HTH.

That is an incredibly optimistic and aggressive ranking you have.

Inb4 passive aggressive response to your criticism of his homerism

 

[Dr. Octopus]

A buddy and I, in an effort to "wake the league up" traded entire rosters this week.

Did they wake up and say "Why would you spend years building a roster and then switch teams with some one else?"

 

[Dr. Octopus]

FFPC 12-team

Gave Amari Cooper

Rec'd Jordan Mathews and Mark Ingram

Cooper

I love Cooper as much as the next guy, but Mathews is no slouch and to add a RB2 for me, I'll take the value there. Raiders are a black hole for offensive players.

To each his own, but IMO it isn't winning strategy to draft a top 10 dynasty WR and trade him away before he ever plays a game for a fringe top 30 WR and RB2. The other owner got the best player in the deal and gained a roster spot, two things I always try to do in dynasty trades.

I think this may be the disconnect - all indications were the Chip Kelly wanted to use his first round pick on Matthews last season but his GM talked him out of it and told him to wait until round 2. Matthews looked the part of an NFL first rounder as a rookie and was also a guy that went top 5 in last year's rookie drafts (3 out of 4 of mine at least - think he fell to 6 or 7 in one of them).

He has an opportunity to build up his value this season with Maclin gone, not lower it (although admittedly he could tank and lower his value).

 

[matttyl]

A buddy and I, in an effort to "wake the league up" traded entire rosters this week.

Did they wake up and say "Why would you spend years building a roster and then switch teams with some one else?"

Just did it this morning, we'll see what reaction it garners.

 

[matttyl]

The Rodgers team easily. Very weak WR's but that would instantly be fixed by taking Cooper, White, and Parker.

Not sure those are the 3 who will be taken. You've got to take Gurley if you have one of the top 3 picks, regardless of team need. Maybe a trade down with someone could work.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Yeah, you do seem confused. I rank Cooper as a top 10 dynasty WR right now, which is not in the future. HTH.

That is an incredibly optimistic and aggressive ranking you have.

It's optimistic, but definitely not incredibly so. DLF has him at WR14 currently. He'd probably fall just outside of my personal top-10 (and I'm generally risk-averse and lower on rookies than most), but he's in the mix in that area with the Cobb, Watkins, Cooks, Hilton types. Of those guys in the 2nd tier, IMO the only one that compares to Cooper in overall talent is Sammy Watkins -- the others, while obviously talented, are that high partially due to situation.

 

[cstu]

The Rodgers team easily. Very weak WR's but that would instantly be fixed by taking Cooper, White, and Parker.

Not sure those are the 3 who will be taken. You've got to take Gurley if you have one of the top 3 picks, regardless of team need. Maybe a trade down with someone could work.

I wouldn't suggest doing that with Gurley's value what it is, but the team should be vastly improved at WR after the draft.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

A buddy and I, in an effort to "wake the league up" traded entire rosters this week.

Did they wake up and say "Why would you spend years building a roster and then switch teams with some one else?"

Just did it this morning, we'll see what reaction it garners.

 

[maxhyde]

Yeah, you do seem confused. I rank Cooper as a top 10 dynasty WR right now, which is not in the future. HTH.

That is an incredibly optimistic and aggressive ranking you have.

It's optimistic, but definitely not incredibly so. DLF has him at WR14 currently. He'd probably fall just outside of my personal top-10 (and I'm generally risk-averse and lower on rookies than most), but he's in the mix in that area with the Cobb, Watkins, Cooks, Hilton types. Of those guys in the 2nd tier, IMO the only one that compares to Cooper in overall talent is Sammy Watkins -- the others, while obviously talented, are that high partially due to situation.

Top 15 is a bit different to me than top 10.

Anyway probably a discussion for another time but I am not sure who leaves this group to insert the "more talented" Cooper (Dez/Julio/AJG/Brown/Calvin/DT/Evans/OBJ/Watkins/Jeffery)

 

[thriftyrocker]

12 team non-ppr, no flex

Blount+Asiata for Ball