*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (4 Viewers)

[Omniscient Deity]

So now that we've all bought our Sam Bradford jerseys - who's the target at 20?

I would still like to get another big, talented receiver to help Bradford. Matthews is a stud, but after him it's pretty thin.

And we still need a safety to play with Jenkins.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Isn't Foles also coming off of an injury and this "sold low"?

Yes. His exact words were "you have to give up something to get something"

But he gave up the cheaper, younger QB with better numbers and added the higher draft pick.This is coming from someone who was on board with almost all moves made up until yesterday.

I don't like the deal today. Now once I see him that could change.

I'll play devils advocate for the moment.

When did the Rams become a team known for producing or coaching up offensive talent?

On the surface I agree with everything you're sayinv but I don't have the luxury of seeing these guys everyday. For instance when Trent Richardson was dealt the majority seemed to settle in that the Colts won that deal. And today they signed Frank Gore.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Here's a link to the press conference (apologies if it is already posted; thread is moving fast.)
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Tweetcap-Kelly-Details-The-Offseason-Moves/6556cc7e-720d-46a5-a540-72547cebee6a

 

[dhockster]

For all you Foles fans out there, it's my fault he was traded. My wife thought it would be cool if she surprised me with a Foles jersey for Christmas. Now look what happened.

Women ruin everything.

 

[Soulfly3]

The BEST thing you'll see all offseason re: The Eagles:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_1cGv1WYAEMHkE.jpg

 

[Insein]

For all you Foles fans out there, it's my fault he was traded. My wife thought it would be cool if she surprised me with a Foles jersey for Christmas. Now look what happened.

Women ruin everything.

My wife got me a Foles jersey for my birthday in June. To replace my Desean jersey. So yea.

 

[B-Deep]

so what would we need to see out of Bradford to make this seem like a good trade?

10 wins or so?

60% completion percentage

TD to INT percentage in the high 2's?

would that do it?

 

[Insein]

so what would we need to see out of Bradford to make this seem like a good trade?

10 wins or so?

60% completion percentage

TD to INT percentage in the high 2's?

would that do it?

Playoff win. That cures all.

 

[B-Deep]

so what would we need to see out of Bradford to make this seem like a good trade?

10 wins or so?

60% completion percentage

TD to INT percentage in the high 2's?

would that do it?

Playoff win. That cures all.

what if he has them in position to win and the defense blows it?

 

[IgglesFan]

@ZBerm: Chip: "If [bradford] never tore his ACL, he'd never be traded. ...The injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Just depends on the severity of it."

This logic is baffling. That's like saying I could never afford this Bentley if it wasn't totaled.

That analogy is ridiculous.

 

[Insein]

so what would we need to see out of Bradford to make this seem like a good trade?

10 wins or so?

60% completion percentage

TD to INT percentage in the high 2's?

would that do it?

Playoff win. That cures all.

what if he has them in position to win and the defense blows it?

We'll see then

 

[IgglesFan]

@ZBerm: Chip Kelly on McCoy trade: "The way we looked at it is we got Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell for LeSean McCoy.

The way i look at it is we got Bradford for McCoy. Spin it how you want Chippy, spending 13m on a questionable QB who doesnt bring that much more to the table than Nick Foles is bewildering. To me at least.

I have a feeling Chip Kelly might be in a better position to evaluate whether a player fits his system than you or I. I mean, he has a track record of sorts running this scheme for, oh, the last 15-20 years.

I have a feeling Bradford brings a bit more to the table in upside than Foles, who we know is a statue with limited arm strength.

 

[IgglesFan]

so what would we need to see out of Bradford to make this seem like a good trade?

10 wins or so?

60% completion percentage

TD to INT percentage in the high 2's?

would that do it?

Kinda makes a big difference who the supporting cast is.

I wouldn't give Joe Montana much chance of reaching those goals if he was throwing to Huff/Matthews/Cooper.

 

[Lehigh98]

For all you Foles fans out there, it's my fault he was traded. My wife thought it would be cool if she surprised me with a Foles jersey for Christmas. Now look what happened.

Women ruin everything.

For Christmas my 8 year old got a Foles jersey and my 6 year old got a McCoy.

I have a DeSean jersey. Will have to go back to my old Duce jersey since he's the only one still on the team.

 

[Snotbubbles]

For all you Foles fans out there, it's my fault he was traded. My wife thought it would be cool if she surprised me with a Foles jersey for Christmas. Now look what happened.

Women ruin everything.

My wife got me a Foles jersey for my birthday in June. To replace my Desean jersey. So yea.

Please buy a Riley Cooper jersey ASAP.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

I've bought a Chip jersey...

 

[Bruce Hammond]

For all you Foles fans out there, it's my fault he was traded. My wife thought it would be cool if she surprised me with a Foles jersey for Christmas. Now look what happened.

Women ruin everything.

For Christmas my 8 year old got a Foles jersey and my 6 year old got a McCoy.

I have a DeSean jersey. Will have to go back to my old Duce jersey since he's the only one still on the team.

Duct tape and Sharpie my friend. Or go with a long snapper jersey. Those guys seem to last forever.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

I've bought a Chip jersey...

Be careful. I wouldn't want you to get beat up walking around Philly.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ESPNdirocco: RT @mortreport: Murray renewed Eagles' interest w personal call to Chip Kelly; not just spread offense ran at OY; Bradford's roommate, too

 

[Dr. Octopus]

@ZBerm: Chip Kelly on McCoy trade: "The way we looked at it is we got Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell for LeSean McCoy.

The way i look at it is we got Bradford for McCoy. Spin it how you want Chippy, spending 13m on a questionable QB who doesnt bring that much more to the table than Nick Foles is bewildering. To me at least.

I have a feeling Chip Kelly might be in a better position to evaluate whether a player fits his system than you or I. I mean, he has a track record of sorts running this scheme for, oh, the last 15-20 years.

I have a feeling Bradford brings a bit more to the table in upside than Foles, who we know is a statue with limited arm strength.

Bradford has very little mobility as well - and would you really want a guy that has missed 33 games in 5 seasons with knee and shoulder injuries running the ball much?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ESPNdirocco: RT @mortreport: Murray renewed Eagles' interest w personal call to Chip Kelly; not just spread offense ran at OY; Bradford's roommate, too

@CharlesRobinson: DeMarco Murray top choice is #Eagles. The #Raiders & #Jaguars trail. NFL source doesn't believe Jacksonville has or will offer a big deal.

 

[Lehigh98]

@ESPNdirocco: RT @mortreport: Murray renewed Eagles' interest w personal call to Chip Kelly; not just spread offense ran at OY; Bradford's roommate, too

They just signed Mathews, how would they have cap room for Murray and what else they still need to do... unless they trade Bradford!

 

[BroadwayG]

@ESPNdirocco: RT @mortreport: Murray renewed Eagles' interest w personal call to Chip Kelly; not just spread offense ran at OY; Bradford's roommate, too

They just signed Mathews, how would they have cap room for Murray and what else they still need to do... unless they trade Bradford!

Maybe they'll just cut Bradford

 

[Lehigh98]

@ESPNdirocco: RT @mortreport: Murray renewed Eagles' interest w personal call to Chip Kelly; not just spread offense ran at OY; Bradford's roommate, too

@CharlesRobinson: DeMarco Murray top choice is #Eagles. The #Raiders & #Jaguars trail. NFL source doesn't believe Jacksonville has or will offer a big deal.

The question is... do they Eagles really want to invest in a guy who played all 16 games last year?

 

[Soulfly3]

@MikeSielski 1m

1 minute ago
When the quarterback you just acquired for calls the deal "a leap of faith," the odds that the trade will work out ain't great. #Eagles

 

[Leroy Hoard]

You guys laugh but Eagles are only top 5 team in NFL as far as not losing player games the last 2 years. They seem to keep guys on the field better than most.

btw I'm sure most of you injury worriers stayed far away from Gronk last year, good move there...

 

[B-Deep]

@ESPNdirocco: RT @mortreport: Murray renewed Eagles' interest w personal call to Chip Kelly; not just spread offense ran at OY; Bradford's roommate, too

@CharlesRobinson: DeMarco Murray top choice is #Eagles. The #Raiders & #Jaguars trail. NFL source doesn't believe Jacksonville has or will offer a big deal.

The question is... do they Eagles really want to invest in a guy who played all 16 games last year?

you gotta look long term

even with last season he has missed an average of 2.75 games per season

shure he may be "too durable" if you look at last season, but if you look at his career he is just the sort of oft injured risk Kelly loves

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@LesBowen: Sam Bradford: my main goal now is to get healthy. No timetable

@MattLombardo975: Bradford: Coming to the

#Eagles has been in the works for awhile. I'd say it's been going on for 3-4 weeks.

@EliotShorrParks: "I think Chip and the #Eagles want me here." -- Bradford

@Mfranknfl: Bradford said no timetable on 100 percent, said taking it slower this time. #Eagles

@JimmyKempski: Sam Bradford and the Eagles have not discussed a contract extension to this point.

@EliotShorrParks: Bradford says he is calling and texting DeMarco Murray, recruiting him to #Eagles

@LesBowen: Bradford said hell absolutely be 100 percent for training camp. Said he is trying to recruit ex-roommate DeMarco Murray for Eagles

@EliotShorrParks: Bradford kind of looks and acts like an immobile love child of Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez. #Eagles

 

[B-Deep]

@Mfranknfl: Bradford said no timetable on 100 percent, said taking it slower this time. #Eagles

@LesBowen: Bradford said hell absolutely be 100 percent for training camp.

pssst

that's a timetable

 

[dhockster]

@ESPNdirocco: RT @mortreport: Murray renewed Eagles' interest w personal call to Chip Kelly; not just spread offense ran at OY; Bradford's roommate, too

@CharlesRobinson: DeMarco Murray top choice is #Eagles. The #Raiders & #Jaguars trail. NFL source doesn't believe Jacksonville has or will offer a big deal.

The question is... do they Eagles really want to invest in a guy who played all 16 games last year?

you gotta look long term

even with last season he has missed an average of 2.75 games per season

shure he may be "too durable" if you look at last season, but if you look at his career he is just the sort of oft injured risk Kelly loves

Which is why you would have signed Murray and Matthews. So your Eggs aren't all in one basket.

 

[Bob Magaw]

KNEEagles

* I like the thinking of whoever brought up the DeMarco Murray being able to stick it to Jerruh twice a year. Revenge can be a potent motive.

 

[Insein]

For all you Foles fans out there, it's my fault he was traded. My wife thought it would be cool if she surprised me with a Foles jersey for Christmas. Now look what happened.

Women ruin everything.

My wife got me a Foles jersey for my birthday in June. To replace my Desean jersey. So yea.

Please buy a Riley Cooper jersey ASAP.

I might have to take one for the team.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

@Mfranknfl: Bradford said no timetable on 100 percent, said taking it slower this time. #Eagles

@LesBowen: Bradford said hell absolutely be 100 percent for training camp.

pssst

that's a timetable

 

[Rimez]

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

lol

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Is DeMarco Murray still on the table? That might help a little.

Interesting that nobody ever did answer this.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Is DeMarco Murray still on the table? That might help a little.

Interesting that nobody ever did answer this.

Adams Schefter and Caplan have both said yes this afternoon. Obviously none of us can know real status, but he called Kelly today and Bradford is still trying hard to recruit him (as of press conference in the last hour)

 

[Lehigh98]

People continually calling in to 97.5 and still trying to talk themselves into Bradford as a piece to trade up for MM is just sad.

 

[mquinnjr]

Is DeMarco Murray still on the table? That might help a little.

Interesting that nobody ever did answer this.

Dez is not signed officially, right?

I feel like we're targeting the wrong Cowboy with a new RB, cap space, and a new QB you guys.

 

[Billy Bats]

Murray wouldn't make sense $ wise, but then again we just overpaid for a 13m immobile QB with a shredded knee. Wouldn't make much sense roster wise either, now that china doll Matthews is signed. Ah nevermind. Because Chip. Murray will get a four year deal by 10pm.

 

[Zyphros]

Could that be why they got Bradford, as an indirect access and recruiting tactic to get Demarco? But why get Demarco when you just got Mathews? They have cap space sure, but that seems like a waste of that money, if not now then it likely would catch up to them.

 

[bushdocda]

Sure why not. #### it.

 

[Billy Bats]

Could that be why they got Bradford, as an indirect access and recruiting tactic to get Demarco? But why get Demarco when you just got Mathews? They have cap space sure, but that seems like a waste of that money, if not now then it likely would catch up to them.

They've been working on acquiring Sam for a month. So no. Unrelated.

 

[dhockster]

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

Sounds like a bitter Jay Gruden fan.

 

[GoBirds]

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

Sounds like a bitter Jay Gruden fan.

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

Sounds like a bitter Jay Gruden fan.

Jay Gruden has fans? That can't be possible.

 

[JetMaxx]

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ProFootballTalk: DeMarco Murray situation heating up; look for things to come to a head most likely later today.

 

[Nucker101]

Going to be cringe worthy watching bradford with his 12 sec 40 time taking snaps in the read option and tossing to matthews, whoever keeps it explodes in a cloud of dust, cant even find all the pieces to cart them off. or worse they bump into each other in training camp and shatter each others pelvises. sports science my ###, kelly is a fat #### and him talking about health is like a cigarette smoking dentist saying you should floss more. You eagles we so damn scary 2 years ago, now youre shaping up to set the all the time record for 40 sec three-and-outs.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Edwerderespn: My sense: @DeMarcoMurray decision could happen soon, that #Jaguars not actively involved, #Raiders offering most $$$, #Cowboys lead #Eagles

Have to think Cowboys