*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (3 Viewers)

[Late225]

isnt it 2 games out of first since youre 0-2 in the div and lose the tie-breaker?

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and 0-3 in the conf

Way to stay classy, Redskin fan.

Well, he's right. we'd need to hope for an extra Cowboys loss or two in the division in order to get the tiebreaker.

 

[Late225]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Mark Schlereth joined Joe DeCamara and Adam Caplan on 97.5 the Fanatic on Friday to talk Week 4 football, and he held no punches when discussing what he despises about the way Chip Kelly is utilizing his offensive linemen this season.

“People talk about, ‘Oh, revolutionizing the offense under Chip Kelly, he’s going to change the game,'” Schlereth said. “You don’t change the game if you don’t block people on the line of scrimmage, and that’s been the biggest issue for them.”


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Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

"Chip Kelly, this is a Pop Warner snap count, essentially," Schlereth said. "It’s the same snap count on every play, and defensive linemen tee off on you. You’re letting them control the line of scrimmage, you’re letting them get penetration in your backfield on a consistent basis because you don’t change your snap count."

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A former offensive lineman himself, Schlereth played 12 years in the NFL, his first six for Washington. During the interview, he was notably angry about the way Kelly is trying to implement his offensive linemen.

"I take it personally, because I know how hard it is. It pisses me off," Schlereth said. "I’d like to put Chip Kelly in a helmet and shoulder pads and let someone tee off on him 65 plays in a row, because it sucks. I’ve been there before, and that stinks."

Schlereth went on to point out that the Eagles are the only team in the league that focus on man-blocking on the front side of their line, and defended Jason Kelce's performance over the first three weeks.

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"I hate it. Everything is man blocking on the front side," Schlereth said. "And so now everybody says, ‘Oh, Jason Kelce can’t play anymore. What’s wrong with Jason Kelce? He’s too small, he’s undersized.’ You try to run when the defense knows the snap count, and they’re driving you four yards into the backfield on every play, and you're helping your guard to help secure that nose guard before you work up to the middle linebacker because you want to be man-blocking on the front side of everything.

"It’s the only team in the league that does it that way, and the reason they’re the only team in the league that does it that way is because they’re stupid. They don’t understand NFL principles. You cannot do that. I don’t care who you are."

Schlereth also made a point to emphasize that he didn't think DeMarco Murray would fit in Kelly's offense and running scheme.

"DeMarco Murray doesn’t fit in that offense," Schlereth said. "Everybody said, ‘Are you crazy? He led the league in rushing.’

"You had LeSean McCoy. When you don’t block anybody on the line of scrimmage, and he makes four people miss and runs it for 40 yards, that’s not running the ball.

"It’s been an issue for the last two years, but people don’t see it because [McCoy] makes up for those things."

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

 

[Deamon]

Pretty sure you keep repeating the same thing. Just put me on ignore, why do you refuse to do this if it bothers you that much? You say to move on, but then write a paragraph defending the hatred for him. So no, if people in here are going to spew unwarranted hate towards him, then I will continue to defend that. If you don't like it, you can click ignore. So to respond to your post... It's not reasonable for people to be THAT unhappy with him. If you are a Chip supporter and feel good about most of his moves, then go with that. Talk about the brilliant moves, but there's been very few posts about how good of a pickup Sproles has been. It's okay to cheer for Bradford's success, it won't hurt as bad as you think.

You're equally part of this "ruined 10 pages" by always responding to it.

When I asked you to give your feud a rest, you told me to put you on ignore. If you keep having to tell people to put you on ignore because they are complaining about what you are saying, don't you think you might have to re-evaluate what you are saying? Just a thought.

Am I going to re-evaluate responding to people being irrationally whiny about our qb and ignoring the actual bigger issues with our team? No I won't, sorry. One or two people in here ramble about free speech like its okay to say whatever is on their mind in here but I'm not. Sorry if that bugs you.

 

[Deamon]

You guys can debate Bradford and Foles until your fingers fall off. This team doesn't win because of the offensive line. They are the worst I've seen in twenty plus years. They aren't getting beat by stars. Kelce and the guards are getting BLOWN UP by journeyman defensive tackles. They stink. They stink at all five spots. Lane has probably been the best of the bunch and he's not playing well at all. Pass protection has been either solid or a complete breakdown/unblocked blitzer but that isn't uncommon in the league. The run blocking is unwatchable. I'm not sure what happened to this team. This isn't Herremans and Mathis. Herremans was awful last year anyway. They could use Mathis but it wouldn't solve anything on this year's team.

Kelce is a shadow of the Kelce of old. Peters is clearing playing injured when he does play. He is very beatable for the first time in his career. Lane gets beat regularly. Even Celek, who is praised for his blocking, is regularly getting pushed around and/or forced into a hold.

All this other stuff doesn't matter. They've had drops, missed kicks, etc, but if they could magically clean up the line play all the other things would fall into place. Bradford hasn't been great but he still looks like he has more ability than Foles. He made some great plays yesterday, albeit against a poor secondary. The TD to Celek was an amazing escape from a sack. There are a lot of guys posting with short memories here. Foles was brutal in 2014. I can't imagine he would do well with ZERO run game and no Maclin. I'm not sure Tom Brady could succeed on this offense right now.

I just don't know how Kelly can fix it. They don't have the personnel. You can't likely trade for a lineman in midseason let alone five, which is what they need. Without a gimmicky solution to the run game, this will continue to be a maddeningly frustrating season and a waste of the best defense they've had since Jim Johnson was alive.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

 

[Hang 10]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

That's pretty interesting if true. So the O-line might not be that bad but just bad coaching?

 

[Deamon]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

That's pretty interesting if true. So the O-line might not be that bad but just bad coaching?

No, the Oline is bad. Awful. But if that's true, that wouldn't be helping them at all.

 

[JuniorNB]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

That's pretty interesting if true. So the O-line might not be that bad but just bad coaching?

How does not one lineman notice this and say something? Or change it to draw the defense off in a crucial 3rd and One? If that's true, it's an embarrassment to Kelly, the line coach, every lineman out there, and Bradford.

 

[Hang 10]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

That's pretty interesting if true. So the O-line might not be that bad but just bad coaching?

How does not one lineman notice this and say something? Or change it to draw the defense off in a crucial 3rd and One? If that's true, it's an embarrassment to Kelly, the line coach, every lineman out there, and Bradford.

But what can you say when this is a fundamental part of Chip's philosophy? More plays. Faster.

On the other hand though, it does seem silly that you couldn't take a couple extra seconds every now and then to vary the count. Doubt that's going to effect the number of plays you have significantly.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2...rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

This is really damning. Every week we are hearing experts point out how amateurish Chip is running things. Snap counts, not changing signals, personnel decisions, whatever. I really like a lot what Kelly stands for but as of now, the idea of him revulotionizing the game is an abject failure.

 

[Deamon]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

This is really damning. Every week we are hearing experts point out how amateurish Chip is running things. Snap counts, not changing signals, personnel decisions, whatever. I really like a lot what Kelly stands for but as of now, the idea of him revulotionizing the game is an abject failure.

Whose 'idea' was this anyways? He never once claimed to be doing this, it was all media/fans. He even said that he does nothing special or new or groundbreaking. I'm not arguing whether he's a good coach or not, just saying that this whole 'revolutionizing the game" thing was media driven. Everyone loves a good story about a Savior or a Scapegoat.

Edit: Specifically on the Oline snap count thing though, if it is true I agree that's a bad move on his part. Maybe Kelce or someone will step up and suggest changing that up.

 

[thayman]

Mark Schlereth's comments about the OLine before week 4 seem pertinent right now.

Schlereth said he watched the Eagles' win over the Jets in Week 3, and realized that Kelly's offense only has one snap count because Kelly wants to run more plays in a shorter period of time.

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/03/mark-schlereth-rips-chip-kellys-offense/#5JSZfFzyJPkXJE7q.99

If this is true about the snap count, that's absolute insanity. You're completely hanging your o=line out to dry on every play.

This is really damning. Every week we are hearing experts point out how amateurish Chip is running things. Snap counts, not changing signals, personnel decisions, whatever. I really like a lot what Kelly stands for but as of now, the idea of him revulotionizing the game is an abject failure.

Whose 'idea' was this anyways? He never once claimed to be doing this, it was all media/fans. He even said that he does nothing special or new or groundbreaking. I'm not arguing whether he's a good coach or not, just saying that this whole 'revolutionizing the game" thing was media driven. Everyone loves a good story about a Savior or a Scapegoat.

Edit: Specifically on the Oline snap count thing though, if it is true I agree that's a bad move on his part. Maybe Kelce or someone will step up and suggest changing that up.

This happens when a coach/team/player does something different. You heard it in 2012 when Griffin/Kaepernick were playing the QB position in a different way. You heard it after Michael Vick hit the league years ago.

If he didn't run plays like crazy you don't lose yesterday. Your defense is just gassed at the end of games, as a Redskins fan I hope Kelly starts bringing in "his" guys on Defense too.

 

[Insein]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

 

[Shutout]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

 

[jasvic]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

 

[Insein]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

 

[jasvic]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

Exactly, and the packaged plays/read option makes audibles unnecessary, in theory. But Kelly has stated several times that many of the called runs might look like an option, but are not. So in those cases, if it looks like the defense is set to counter the play, we're screwed because the QB has no options out of it.

 

[JuniorNB]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

Exactly, and the packaged plays/read option makes audibles unnecessary, in theory. But Kelly has stated several times that many of the called runs might look like an option, but are not. So in those cases, if it looks like the defense is set to counter the play, we're screwed because the QB has no options out of it.

Which is where having a more athletic quarterback would make this offense 10x more dangerous. If the defense senses run, and everyone starts going right, they know it's a handoff. Vick used to be able to pull it back and run himself. Even Foles did it a little bit, and he's no great athlete. Bradford could do it, but his knees are made of glass. Mariota would have been such a perfect fit. I know it wasn't in the cards, but that's what I was hoping for.

 

[Insein]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

Exactly, and the packaged plays/read option makes audibles unnecessary, in theory. But Kelly has stated several times that many of the called runs might look like an option, but are not. So in those cases, if it looks like the defense is set to counter the play, we're screwed because the QB has no options out of it.

Which is where having a more athletic quarterback would make this offense 10x more dangerous. If the defense senses run, and everyone starts going right, they know it's a handoff. Vick used to be able to pull it back and run himself. Even Foles did it a little bit, and he's no great athlete. Bradford could do it, but his knees are made of glass. Mariota would have been such a perfect fit. I know it wasn't in the cards, but that's what I was hoping for.

Seeing Bradford now, I was hoping that too.

 

[jasvic]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

Exactly, and the packaged plays/read option makes audibles unnecessary, in theory. But Kelly has stated several times that many of the called runs might look like an option, but are not. So in those cases, if it looks like the defense is set to counter the play, we're screwed because the QB has no options out of it.

Which is where having a more athletic quarterback would make this offense 10x more dangerous. If the defense senses run, and everyone starts going right, they know it's a handoff. Vick used to be able to pull it back and run himself. Even Foles did it a little bit, and he's no great athlete. Bradford could do it, but his knees are made of glass. Mariota would have been such a perfect fit. I know it wasn't in the cards, but that's what I was hoping for.

Completely agree, but it's hard enough finding a decent QB today, let alone one who can run and throw. The RG3's and Kaepernick's of the world are showing us that.

 

[JuniorNB]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

Exactly, and the packaged plays/read option makes audibles unnecessary, in theory. But Kelly has stated several times that many of the called runs might look like an option, but are not. So in those cases, if it looks like the defense is set to counter the play, we're screwed because the QB has no options out of it.

Which is where having a more athletic quarterback would make this offense 10x more dangerous. If the defense senses run, and everyone starts going right, they know it's a handoff. Vick used to be able to pull it back and run himself. Even Foles did it a little bit, and he's no great athlete. Bradford could do it, but his knees are made of glass. Mariota would have been such a perfect fit. I know it wasn't in the cards, but that's what I was hoping for.

Completely agree, but it's hard enough finding a decent QB today, let alone one who can run and throw. The RG3's and Kaepernick's of the world are showing us that.

Buffalo found Taylor. I don't think we'd need a 4.3 guy. Just someone who can run and then slide. Rodgers and Luck are good examples of guys who aren't burners but can run well. Just someone who would make the defense hesitate to see if he handed off or pulled back to run himself. Or throw.

 

[GoBirds]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

 

[thayman]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

 

[Mighty Mice]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

 

[GoBirds]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

 

[thayman]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

 

[JuniorNB]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

McCoy was great in 2013. Far from great last year. And he seems to be hitting a wall with his injuries. I don't miss him at all. He'd break a 40 yard run now and then, but in between, he'd have so many runs for losses while he danced around. I questioned the Eagles for signing both Demarco Murray and Ryan Mathews. I think one would have been plenty. But I have no problem with either one replacing McCoy.

 

[dhockster]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

I hope ragging on the Eagles/Kelly is making your day. Before you get too excited, though, just remember that Jay "we can't control penalties" Gruden is still the Redskins coach.

 

[thayman]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

I hope ragging on the Eagles/Kelly is making your day. Before you get too excited, though, just remember that Jay "we can't control penalties" Gruden is still the Redskins coach.

Ahh, so we are on to the "Oh yeah, well you suck more!" arguments. Good times, hopefully Chip remains in control of player personnel. That alone should ensure 4th place for you guys for years.

ETA: Also just some good natured ribbing after a division game. No more than most of you would be if it went the other way.

 

[JuniorNB]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

I hope ragging on the Eagles/Kelly is making your day. Before you get too excited, though, just remember that Jay "we can't control penalties" Gruden is still the Redskins coach.

Ahh, so we are on to the "Oh yeah, well you suck more!" arguments. Good times, hopefully Chip remains in control of player personnel. That alone should ensure 4th place for you guys for years.

I'll take that deal. As long as Daniel Snyder stays in charge of the Redskins.

 

[GoBirds]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

Gotta love all of the arrogant Skins fans that know everything all of the sudden after a 3 point win on their field to put them a whole game ahead. You would almost think that they haven't been a disaster for 20 years and their QB hasn't had a worse career start than both JaMarcus and Blaine Gabbert.

Over a 4 game stretch you have a better record for the 1st time in 5 years....congrats I guess? Anyone would still take Chip over the wrong Gruden and it's not close.

 

[Deamon]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

Ugh, I hate being the favourites. 0-3 when favoured, 1-0 when underdogs.

 

[Deamon]

Lane sprained his MCL (again) and also his ankle. Is still somehow expected to start on Sunday so we may have dodged one there. Hope he heals fast as he's been our only mediocre spot on that O line.

 

[Deamon]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

As negative as some fans are in here on Chip's moves, I think you'd be hard pressed to find many that would go back and change the Shady trade.

 

[Insein]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

I love your optimism but we're slowly turning the corner from greatly disappointed to furiously angry.

 

[Insein]

What just depresses me the most is I thought I had a handle on the way Kelly thought. I thought there was a method to the madness. He signed these RBs because they ran his system better in his mind. He got this QB because he saw something in him. He ignored the OL because he thought the guys we had were good enough. At first I didn't agree with some of these (the OL and QB) and wholeheartedly believed in others (the RBs).

And now its all going to ####. It's like he was making it up as he goes. All the little things we just brushed off as Chip being Chip now stand out as annoying and being a real problem for the team. All the negative people saying he'll be back in college in a year now don't seem ridiculous. Him throwing Howie under the bus for the Smith pick when there's no way in hell that was Howie's pick. How he dismantled the entire 2012 draft except for Cox and Kendricks. Ignoring the OL except when he first got here with Howie in charge probably shouting in his ear to take the tackle and lucking out that Miami was dumb enough to take Dion Jordan.

I'm rambling but all the questionable moves are popping out now, not just trading the most successful QB in your system for a twice injured, mediocre one and giving them draft picks for the privilege. Winning masks a lot of the wrinkles and losing is going to make this regime look real ugly.

 

[dhockster]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

I hope ragging on the Eagles/Kelly is making your day. Before you get too excited, though, just remember that Jay "we can't control penalties" Gruden is still the Redskins coach.

Ahh, so we are on to the "Oh yeah, well you suck more!" arguments. Good times, hopefully Chip remains in control of player personnel. That alone should ensure 4th place for you guys for years.

ETA: Also just some good natured ribbing after a division game. No more than most of you would be if it went the other way.

I didn't say you sucked more, I just said you still have Jay Gruden as coach. But with a new GM, you will have an easier time jettisoning him after this year than the Eagles will with Kelly. We are stuck with him for at least 2, probably 3 more years.

This year has gone about as well as the Redskins could hope. First, they are playing better football. Second, the top two teams in the division last year have serious problems this year, one through injuries, and the other through some questionable offseason moves and not addressing the offensive line.

With the Cowboys likely to lose the next 3, the Giants and Redskins have to be the favorites to win this division. I thought the Giants would take a step back but they always seem to find a way to stay competitive when you least expect it. The sign of a good stable front office. Something the Redskins have lacked and something the Eagles may be losing.

I am fine with interdivisional ribbing, but I think there is a time and a place. Personally, I think the day after a tough loss which could have gone either way, is a little too soon. But I can accept it if you say it was all in fun.

 

[Deamon]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

I hope ragging on the Eagles/Kelly is making your day. Before you get too excited, though, just remember that Jay "we can't control penalties" Gruden is still the Redskins coach.

Ahh, so we are on to the "Oh yeah, well you suck more!" arguments. Good times, hopefully Chip remains in control of player personnel. That alone should ensure 4th place for you guys for years.

ETA: Also just some good natured ribbing after a division game. No more than most of you would be if it went the other way.

I didn't say you sucked more, I just said you still have Jay Gruden as coach. But with a new GM, you will have an easier time jettisoning him after this year than the Eagles will with Kelly. We are stuck with him for at least 2, probably 3 more years.

This year has gone about as well as the Redskins could hope. First, they are playing better football. Second, the top two teams in the division last year have serious problems this year, one through injuries, and the other through some questionable offseason moves and not addressing the offensive line.

With the Cowboys likely to lose the next 3, the Giants and Redskins have to be the favorites to win this division. I thought the Giants would take a step back but they always seem to find a way to stay competitive when you least expect it. The sign of a good stable front office. Something the Redskins have lacked and something the Eagles may be losing.

I am fine with interdivisional ribbing, but I think there is a time and a place. Personally, I think the day after a tough loss which could have gone either way, is a little too soon. But I can accept it if you say it was all in fun.

Just out of curiosity, you say 'we' when referring to Philly AND Houston. Do you cheer for both teams?

 

[JuniorNB]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

Ugh, I hate being the favourites. 0-3 when favoured, 1-0 when underdogs.

True, but it shows you what the experts think. The teams we've played are 4-0, 2-2, 3-1, 2-2. And we should be 3-1. The Cowboys are the only team that looked better than us to the eye. It could be a lot worse. We haven't played one good game yet and we're only one game back in the division.

 

[dhockster]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

I hope ragging on the Eagles/Kelly is making your day. Before you get too excited, though, just remember that Jay "we can't control penalties" Gruden is still the Redskins coach.

Ahh, so we are on to the "Oh yeah, well you suck more!" arguments. Good times, hopefully Chip remains in control of player personnel. That alone should ensure 4th place for you guys for years.

ETA: Also just some good natured ribbing after a division game. No more than most of you would be if it went the other way.

I didn't say you sucked more, I just said you still have Jay Gruden as coach. But with a new GM, you will have an easier time jettisoning him after this year than the Eagles will with Kelly. We are stuck with him for at least 2, probably 3 more years.

This year has gone about as well as the Redskins could hope. First, they are playing better football. Second, the top two teams in the division last year have serious problems this year, one through injuries, and the other through some questionable offseason moves and not addressing the offensive line.

With the Cowboys likely to lose the next 3, the Giants and Redskins have to be the favorites to win this division. I thought the Giants would take a step back but they always seem to find a way to stay competitive when you least expect it. The sign of a good stable front office. Something the Redskins have lacked and something the Eagles may be losing.

I am fine with interdivisional ribbing, but I think there is a time and a place. Personally, I think the day after a tough loss which could have gone either way, is a little too soon. But I can accept it if you say it was all in fun.

Just out of curiosity, you say 'we' when referring to Philly AND Houston. Do you cheer for both teams?

Born and lived in Philly for 27 years, lived in Houston the last 23. So Eagles are #1, Texans are #2. And while I thought the end of the 2014 season was bad with the Eagles imploding, the start of 2015 has been worse. So much hope, so much disappointment. Such is life.

 

[CentralPA]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

Ugh, I hate being the favourites. 0-3 when favoured, 1-0 when underdogs.

True, but it shows you what the experts think. The teams we've played are 4-0, 2-2, 3-1, 2-2. And we should be 3-1. The Cowboys are the only team that looked better than us to the eye. It could be a lot worse. We haven't played one good game yet and we're only one game back in the division.

Not to point you out but I hate this crap. They shoulda coulda woulda stuff. They've earned a 1-3 start. The OL is a mess and now hurt, receivers are dropping passes. Bad penalties. Just crap piled on top of crap. They need to get their heads out of their asses and play fundamental football and maybe they won't look like a clown circus.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

Gotta love all of the arrogant Skins fans that know everything all of the sudden after a 3 point win on their field to put them a whole game ahead. You would almost think that they haven't been a disaster for 20 years and their QB hasn't had a worse career start than both JaMarcus and Blaine Gabbert.

 

[JuniorNB]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

Ugh, I hate being the favourites. 0-3 when favoured, 1-0 when underdogs.

True, but it shows you what the experts think. The teams we've played are 4-0, 2-2, 3-1, 2-2. And we should be 3-1. The Cowboys are the only team that looked better than us to the eye. It could be a lot worse. We haven't played one good game yet and we're only one game back in the division.

Not to point you out but I hate this crap. They shoulda coulda woulda stuff. They've earned a 1-3 start. The OL is a mess and now hurt, receivers are dropping passes. Bad penalties. Just crap piled on top of crap. They need to get their heads out of their asses and play fundamental football and maybe they won't look like a clown circus.

I agree that they have their heads up their asses and their o-line is horrible and their receivers keep dropping passes. But they are still a couple plays away from being 3-1. And they've beaten an otherwise undefeated Jets team. And are only one game out of first.

When your team isn't doing well, and you're a true, loyal fan, you tend to try to find optimism wherever you can. It's four games in. If it were week ten and still not playing better, then maybe it'd be time for me to bring out my bitter, dooshbag fan act. But not when we're one game from first in our division.

 

[Deamon]

As a Shady owner, I'm actually glad he got traded. It's hard to watch the Eagle right now.

Funny how what seemed to be a death Knell just a few months ago is actually a good thing. THis Eagles o-line is dysfunctional and the injuries are going to put it over the edge.

Too bad he's already clocked out after receiving the new deal huh?

Demarcco Murray has 47 rushing yards this year.

I would take Ryan Mathews over both.

A McCoy/Mathews backfield would be pretty good. Especially since McCoy is perfect for the system Chip runs, really helped out the O-Line. Good thing he was chased out of town.

Gotta love all of the arrogant Skins fans that know everything all of the sudden after a 3 point win on their field to put them a whole game ahead. You would almost think that they haven't been a disaster for 20 years and their QB hasn't had a worse career start than both JaMarcus and Blaine Gabbert.

Ya I wouldn't go as far to say worse then those two haha. I do have a soft spot for Skins' QB's tho as I'm related to a former one.

 

[jasvic]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

Exactly, and the packaged plays/read option makes audibles unnecessary, in theory. But Kelly has stated several times that many of the called runs might look like an option, but are not. So in those cases, if it looks like the defense is set to counter the play, we're screwed because the QB has no options out of it.

Which is where having a more athletic quarterback would make this offense 10x more dangerous. If the defense senses run, and everyone starts going right, they know it's a handoff. Vick used to be able to pull it back and run himself. Even Foles did it a little bit, and he's no great athlete. Bradford could do it, but his knees are made of glass. Mariota would have been such a perfect fit. I know it wasn't in the cards, but that's what I was hoping for.

Completely agree, but it's hard enough finding a decent QB today, let alone one who can run and throw. The RG3's and Kaepernick's of the world are showing us that.

Buffalo found Taylor. I don't think we'd need a 4.3 guy. Just someone who can run and then slide. Rodgers and Luck are good examples of guys who aren't burners but can run well. Just someone who would make the defense hesitate to see if he handed off or pulled back to run himself. Or throw.

Yeah, about Taylor. He wanted to come to the Eagles, but they signed Tebow instead.

 

[Deamon]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

Ugh, I hate being the favourites. 0-3 when favoured, 1-0 when underdogs.

True, but it shows you what the experts think. The teams we've played are 4-0, 2-2, 3-1, 2-2. And we should be 3-1. The Cowboys are the only team that looked better than us to the eye. It could be a lot worse. We haven't played one good game yet and we're only one game back in the division.

Not to point you out but I hate this crap. They shoulda coulda woulda stuff. They've earned a 1-3 start. The OL is a mess and now hurt, receivers are dropping passes. Bad penalties. Just crap piled on top of crap. They need to get their heads out of their asses and play fundamental football and maybe they won't look like a clown circus.

I agree that they have their heads up their asses and their o-line is horrible and their receivers keep dropping passes. But they are still a couple plays away from being 3-1. And they've beaten an otherwise undefeated Jets team. And are only one game out of first.

When your team isn't doing well, and you're a true, loyal fan, you tend to try to find optimism wherever you can. It's four games in. If it were week ten and still not playing better, then maybe it'd be time for me to bring out my bitter, dooshbag fan act. But not when we're one game from first in our division.

Oline is bottom five in the league right now... even if we are talking about that being an issue, it's not being talked about enough. I admit though that a big part of the Oline problems are on Chip not drafting one. I was most pissed when we took Hicks over an Olineman but obviously not that upset anymore. Don't think during the draft, Chip thought he'd be losing Mathis. That one still burns me because it is a lose-lose situation for both sides.

I think the truth lies in the middle... we can't say we "shoulda been 3-1", but I think if we went back in time and replayed those 4 games over, we'd probably be at least 2-2. We always seem to be on the wrong end of the bad bounces or unlucky breaks. Just once I want to win a tight game that we should lose!

 

[JuniorNB]

Has Bradford audibled at all this season? I don't remember a single time he checked out of a play after reading the defense.

Forget where I read it, but I don't think Kelly has audibles in his system. Do you remember Foles or Sanchez ever audibling? I can't, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. For the snap count thing, is that new this year? If not, why was it not an issue the past two years? That is't something teams would need years of film to figure out.

Maybe you're right. Just don't remember us looking this helpless on some plays and audibles would help back the defense off a bit.

The adjustments are sort of built into the plays already. There are typically options short, med and deep and a dump off for most plays.

Exactly, and the packaged plays/read option makes audibles unnecessary, in theory. But Kelly has stated several times that many of the called runs might look like an option, but are not. So in those cases, if it looks like the defense is set to counter the play, we're screwed because the QB has no options out of it.

Which is where having a more athletic quarterback would make this offense 10x more dangerous. If the defense senses run, and everyone starts going right, they know it's a handoff. Vick used to be able to pull it back and run himself. Even Foles did it a little bit, and he's no great athlete. Bradford could do it, but his knees are made of glass. Mariota would have been such a perfect fit. I know it wasn't in the cards, but that's what I was hoping for.

Completely agree, but it's hard enough finding a decent QB today, let alone one who can run and throw. The RG3's and Kaepernick's of the world are showing us that.

Buffalo found Taylor. I don't think we'd need a 4.3 guy. Just someone who can run and then slide. Rodgers and Luck are good examples of guys who aren't burners but can run well. Just someone who would make the defense hesitate to see if he handed off or pulled back to run himself. Or throw.

Yeah, about Taylor. He wanted to come to the Eagles, but they signed Tebow instead.

I actually got to watch him for the first time yesterday, as I was at a sports bar with a Giants fan and had both the Eagles game and the Giants-Bills game on in front of us. I think the buzz exceeds the actual talent. I did not come away impressed. He got all of his numbers in the fourth quarter, once the Giants were far ahead. I even picked him up to cover Brady's bye in fantasy and he disappointed.

That being said, a QB like him would be great for this offense. Just someone who defenses would have to respect as a runner.

 

[babydemon90]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

Ugh, I hate being the favourites. 0-3 when favoured, 1-0 when underdogs.

True, but it shows you what the experts think. The teams we've played are 4-0, 2-2, 3-1, 2-2. And we should be 3-1. The Cowboys are the only team that looked better than us to the eye. It could be a lot worse. We haven't played one good game yet and we're only one game back in the division.

What games were you watching? We didn't look like the better team out there for our losses.

 

[Deamon]

Been frustrating, but all hope is not lost IMO. Opening up as 5 point faves against NOLA.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Have to think the kicking game and offense have looked as poor as they realistically can, and honestly they are 1 or 2 plays away from being 3-1 (by this I mean losing two games by a combined 5 points, while missing kicks and dropping passes, etc.)

Only 1 game back in the division, and no...I don't care about tie breakers yet as it's week 4 and they play the teams they lost to again this season, and can even up those division head to heads.

Put up or shut up time, though.

Ugh, I hate being the favourites. 0-3 when favoured, 1-0 when underdogs.

True, but it shows you what the experts think. The teams we've played are 4-0, 2-2, 3-1, 2-2. And we should be 3-1. The Cowboys are the only team that looked better than us to the eye. It could be a lot worse. We haven't played one good game yet and we're only one game back in the division.

What games were you watching? We didn't look like the better team out there for our losses.

We kick that FG and we likely win that ATL game. I'm starting to feel better about that Atlanta game actually. They look awesome, and were playing great at home and we were a kick away from beating them.

But I think overall we looked better then Washington. They made lots of errors in the 2nd half. Dallas also looked horrid against us (but we looked equally if not more horrid). Given those 3 close losses, I think if we replayed those games we would likely have pulled out ONE of them and been 2-2