*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (2 Viewers)

[unckeyherb]

Two of Bradford's interceptions had absolutely nothing to do with him. In the Atlanta game, the ball went right through JMatt's hands, hit his facemask, and popped into the defender's hands. Great throw. And Monday night, Cooper mysteriously stopped running. The defender could have called for a fair catch. So you can throw int% out the window. Sanchez was 14 TDs 11 ints. Like I said, a 100% healthy Sanchez had numbers almost identical to this year's Bradford. So a change would be parallel if anything. Take away the end zone interception, and I thought Bradford played well Monday night. As he did against the Saints. I see definite improvement. As I've said multiple times, it's the red zone interceptions that's killing him/Eagles. If he can eliminate those going forward, he's going to be a nice QB in this system. Sanchez is...Sanchez. That's it.

So none of Sanchez' interceptions last season were caused by the WR? Honestly I'm not sure but it's unlikely that a quarterback doesn't have a few interceptions that can be laid at the feet of his target instead of being his fault.

Once again why is Sanchez, Sanchez but Bradford not Bradford? You're willing to make excuses for Bradford that you're not willing to make for Sanchez, which is strange because those excuses are applicable to both.

Sanchez like Bradford had a poor supporting cast for most of his career and Sanchez was also coming off a major injury before taking his first snap for the Eagles. In fact Sanchez' injury (shoulder injury requiring surgery) is probably far worse for a QB than Bradford's (ACL tear requiring surgery).

I don't think the switch will be, or necessary should be, made either - I just find it curious why Bradford always seems to get a free pass for a below average career yet Sanchez gets blasted.

Agreed. The excuse-making for Bradford goes back years (albeit with a different fan base) and has always been mind-boggling to me. I just don't get it. The guy could miraculously take a big step forward, I guess, but it seems pretty unlikely at this point.

As unlikely as it may seem, its still more promising to me than Sanchez. The guy makes way more bad decisions than Bradford, doesn't have as good an arm accuracy-wise nor deep-ball wise, is marginally more elusive in the pocket, but not to some great extent. I mean, am I the only one who has watched Sanchez play? He sucks. Give me a ####### break

ETA: not attacking your post, just addressing the Bradford apologist statement. I agree he gets a lot of excuses made for him.

 

[Insein]

Even if Bradford improves and the Eagles make a one and done playoff appearance, I don't think Chip's 2016 QB is on the roster.

He took a sizable gamble on Bradford and the accuracy and decision-making issues are enough for Chip to NOT bring him back.

He got rid of Foles for less. So yea I agree.

 

[JuniorNB]

Two of Bradford's interceptions had absolutely nothing to do with him. In the Atlanta game, the ball went right through JMatt's hands, hit his facemask, and popped into the defender's hands. Great throw. And Monday night, Cooper mysteriously stopped running. The defender could have called for a fair catch. So you can throw int% out the window. Sanchez was 14 TDs 11 ints. Like I said, a 100% healthy Sanchez had numbers almost identical to this year's Bradford. So a change would be parallel if anything. Take away the end zone interception, and I thought Bradford played well Monday night. As he did against the Saints. I see definite improvement. As I've said multiple times, it's the red zone interceptions that's killing him/Eagles. If he can eliminate those going forward, he's going to be a nice QB in this system. Sanchez is...Sanchez. That's it.

So none of Sanchez' interceptions last season were caused by the WR? Honestly I'm not sure but it's unlikely that a quarterback doesn't have a few interceptions that can be laid at the feet of his target instead of being his fault.

Once again why is Sanchez, Sanchez but Bradford not Bradford? You're willing to make excuses for Bradford that you're not willing to make for Sanchez, which is strange because those excuses are applicable to both.

Sanchez like Bradford had a poor supporting cast for most of his career and Sanchez was also coming off a major injury before taking his first snap for the Eagles. In fact Sanchez' injury (shoulder injury requiring surgery) is probably far worse for a QB than Bradford's (ACL tear requiring surgery).

I don't think the switch will be, or necessary should be, made either - I just find it curious why Bradford always seems to get a free pass for a below average career yet Sanchez gets blasted.

Agreed. The excuse-making for Bradford goes back years (albeit with a different fan base) and has always been mind-boggling to me. I just don't get it. The guy could miraculously take a big step forward, I guess, but it seems pretty unlikely at this point.

As unlikely as it seems, its still more promising to me than Sanchez. The guy makes way more bad decisions than Bradford, doesn't have as good an arm accuracy-wise nor deep-ball wise, is marginally more elusive in the pocket, but not to some great extent. I mean, am I the only one who has watched Sanchez play? He sucks.

Like I said, short memories.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

You don't make a QB switch when you are winning. When has that ever happened in the NFL? Win 3 of 4, qb is healthy and say "ya he's just not doing it for us, these wins aren't by enough points".

The 49ers switched from Alex Smith to Colin Kaepernick in the middle of a season where they were winning.

Smith was hurt and never got the job back.

He only missed one game (I think) and was healthy and ready to come back - it was apparent that Harbaugh wanted to make the switch.

 

[JuniorNB]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

Trash is what I saw when I watched Sanchez last year. Missed out on the playoffs. I'm hoping for better this year, that's all.

 

[Amused to Death]

Chip knew what he had in Foles & Sanchez and still decided Bradford's ceiling is higher. Following 2014, Chip decided the 2 QBs he had weren't good enough. He's going to give Bradford every opportunity to turn it around. Right or wrong, Sanchez will not be the QB to lead the Eagles to post-season success.

It really doesn't matter what fans think.

 

[fred_1_15301]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

Trash is what I saw when I watched Sanchez last year. Missed out on the playoffs. I'm hoping for better this year, that's all.

If Bradford is considered "trash", I hate to think what we should be calling 50-60% of other starting QBs in the NFL. He hasn't looked great but far from "trash" IMO.

 

[Insein]

You don't make a QB switch when you are winning. When has that ever happened in the NFL? Win 3 of 4, qb is healthy and say "ya he's just not doing it for us, these wins aren't by enough points".

The 49ers switched from Alex Smith to Colin Kaepernick in the middle of a season where they were winning.

Smith was hurt and never got the job back.

He only missed one game (I think) and was healthy and ready to come back - it was apparent that Harbaugh wanted to make the switch.

But without injury, it never would have happened.

 

[Power Monster]

Miserable - you seem to have done a great job pouting like a child because I mentioned that the team was overrated. Fact junior.

Two weeks ago they were the laughingstock of the league, now they're overrated?

By whom exactly?

Surely not Eagles fans. We know what we have.

You know what you have. Others don't. Overrated from the pre-season consensus.

As I said before, there was a bit of buzz after the way Bradford and the Eagles dismantled Green Bay in the first half of the week three preseason game. Up until then, this team was not in any Super Bowl conversations. It was more of a curiosity.

Sounds to me, judging by the Eagles on your fantasy team, that you fell for the hype and got burned. That's on you, Son. There were no Eagle fans talking championship. We were hoping our roster moves worked out and we made the playoffs this year, since we didn't last year.

Get better at drafting instead of coming here like a little girl who found out there's no Santa.

After perusing the thread it is quite apparent that there were multiple Eagle fans in addition to heavy FF players favoring the Eagle skill position players. This is not an anomaly. A ton of talk about how the team was getting a first round bye, the NFC east division champ is going to be the SB winner etc. Then the season started and the negativity about the team ensued. Like I stated - sitting fine in first place with a solid group. See no reason to reconsider a stout and potentially lethal Eagle defense. They will sit firmly on my roster as a start week in and week out. Matthews will get the start as well. Bradford is going to the bench and based on what I am reading about talk radio in Philly - there are some concerns. Eagle fans might have a tough day after the Carolina game. Anything can happen in the NFL.

The other thing that stood out to me in reading through the posts on this thread is your lousy attitude. You talk tough and it is quite funny. Its nice to hide behind a key board with your tough talk junior. No one around here is impressed by your sophomoric insults because we hear it probably every day at our jobs and in dealing with the little clowns in life. You just so happen to be one of those little clowns.

I will continue to check in from time to time. I will stand firm that this team was overrated and will only go so far on the arm of Bradford. Hoping some day the Eagles can win a Super Bowl. Certainly there are some rather cool, passionate Eagle fans that deserve the feeling of going all the way. Then there are the #### stains like yourself that do the fan base nor this site any favors. Keep thinking about little girls and Santa and ball sacks... junior

 

[dhockster]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

Trash is what I saw when I watched Sanchez last year. Missed out on the playoffs. I'm hoping for better this year, that's all.

Yeah, that Dallas game on Thanksgiving last year. Pure trash. I am waiting for Bradford to have a complete game like that one.

 

[Amused to Death]

Miserable - you seem to have done a great job pouting like a child because I mentioned that the team was overrated. Fact junior.

Two weeks ago they were the laughingstock of the league, now they're overrated?

By whom exactly?

Surely not Eagles fans. We know what we have.

You know what you have. Others don't. Overrated from the pre-season consensus.

As I said before, there was a bit of buzz after the way Bradford and the Eagles dismantled Green Bay in the first half of the week three preseason game. Up until then, this team was not in any Super Bowl conversations. It was more of a curiosity.

Sounds to me, judging by the Eagles on your fantasy team, that you fell for the hype and got burned. That's on you, Son. There were no Eagle fans talking championship. We were hoping our roster moves worked out and we made the playoffs this year, since we didn't last year.

Get better at drafting instead of coming here like a little girl who found out there's no Santa.

After perusing the thread it is quite apparent that there were multiple Eagle fans in addition to heavy FF players favoring the Eagle skill position players. This is not an anomaly. A ton of talk about how the team was getting a first round bye, the NFC east division champ is going to be the SB winner etc. Then the season started and the negativity about the team ensued. Like I stated - sitting fine in first place with a solid group. See no reason to reconsider a stout and potentially lethal Eagle defense. They will sit firmly on my roster as a start week in and week out. Matthews will get the start as well. Bradford is going to the bench and based on what I am reading about talk radio in Philly - there are some concerns. Eagle fans might have a tough day after the Carolina game. Anything can happen in the NFL.

The other thing that stood out to me in reading through the posts on this thread is your lousy attitude. You talk tough and it is quite funny. Its nice to hide behind a key board with your tough talk junior. No one around here is impressed by your sophomoric insults because we hear it probably every day at our jobs and in dealing with the little clowns in life. You just so happen to be one of those little clowns.

I will continue to check in from time to time. I will stand firm that this team was overrated and will only go so far on the arm of Bradford. Hoping some day the Eagles can win a Super Bowl. Certainly there are some rather cool, passionate Eagle fans that deserve the feeling of going all the way. Then there are the #### stains like yourself that do the fan base nor this site any favors. Keep thinking about little girls and Santa and ball sacks... junior

Shoulda stopped after the first paragraph. The rest is what makes you a troll. You come in here insulting us, then complain about insults.

 

[FBG Moderator]

Let's everyone tone it way down please. There's no need for this kind of attitude towards other posters.

 

[unckeyherb]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

again, I hate that I have to qualify for Bradford, but the situation last year was far different from this year. The O-line is literally a shell of what it was last year with only 3/5ths returning; frankly Peters and Kelce are playing the worst I've ever seen them play. Say what you will about Mathis and Herremans but the Birds Oline was ranked #2 last year.

The best receiving threat on this offense by far is no longer with the team. Maclin's 85/1,318/10 production is now supposed to be replaced by a guy that has more picking penalties than catches.

Its probably due to line play, but Shady was more effective last year than Murray. Sad but true.

Sorry, but I don't really care what the stats say. Sanchez was directly responsible for multiple losses last year with an as of yet, much better cast of characters.

I'd point to the preseason games for better reference. Bradford had a monster showing, everyone went nuts and then it turned out that teams played vanilla defenses and maybe he wasn't as good as he looked. Well, Sanchez, going against those same vanilla defenses with the same offense looked like dog ####. He is not a viable replacement and is certainly not an upgrade.

 

[JuniorNB]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

Trash is what I saw when I watched Sanchez last year. Missed out on the playoffs. I'm hoping for better this year, that's all.

If Bradford is considered "trash", I hate to think what we should be calling 50-60% of other starting QBs in the NFL. He hasn't looked great but far from "trash" IMO.

He was 10 times better than Eli Monday night and Giants fans support their guy more than Eagles fans support theirs. Sure, Eli has two rings, but he didn't look like he could hold Bradford's jock.

 

[JuniorNB]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

again, I hate that I have to qualify for Bradford, but the situation last year was far different from this year. The O-line is literally a shell of what it was last year with only 3/5ths returning; frankly Peters and Kelce are playing the worst I've ever seen them play. Say what you will about Mathis and Herremans but the Birds Oline was ranked #2 last year.

The best receiving threat on this offense by far is no longer with the team. Maclin's 85/1,318/10 production is now supposed to be replaced by a guy that has more picking penalties than catches.

Its probably due to line play, but Shady was more effective last year than Murray. Sad but true.

Sorry, but I don't really care what the stats say. Sanchez was directly responsible for multiple losses last year with an as of yet, much better cast of characters.

I'd point to the preseason games for better reference. Bradford had a monster showing, everyone went nuts and then it turned out that teams played vanilla defenses and maybe he wasn't as good as he looked. Well, Sanchez, going against those same vanilla defenses with the same offense looked like dog ####. He is not a viable replacement and is certainly not an upgrade.

Thank you. Finally a voice of reason.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I wonder who call the law enforcement to the thread

 

[JuniorNB]

I wonder who call the law enforcement to the thread

Who said anyone did? Was someone suspended? Do you think the mods never read the threads?

 

[ShaHBucks]

I wonder who call the law enforcement to the thread

Who said anyone did? Was someone suspended? Do you think the mods never read the threads?

Says the guy wearing a wire

 

[JuniorNB]

I wonder who call the law enforcement to the thread

Who said anyone did? Was someone suspended? Do you think the mods never read the threads?

Says the guy wearing a wire

Well I can promise that I didn't call the police. I like when other teams fans come in and take a beating. You have anything of value to contribute today? Or just more trolling?

 

[The Noid]

Although I think we overpaid for him, I had no problem with Kelly making the decision that Nick Foles was never going to be an elite QB and wanting to find out if Bradford could be that guy. And the rationale for targeting Bradford as being the next Drew Brees (high draft pick, coming off injury, original team was looking to move on from him, etc.) was logical. But I think these first 6 games make it clear Brees is not his ceiling, it's more likely Carson Palmer.

And I think the good news is we dodged a bullet by not signing him to an extension before the season. But the bad news is, theres not a better option on the horizon anytime soon so we probably do re-sign him, just at a much more reasonable price.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I think that the people talking about hanging your hat on Bradford's upside as compared to Sanchez are making some legitimate points.

However, Sanchez definitely looked like he was getting worse over the course of last year, regardless of what the stats say. They had even less of a downfield game and he was just not effective. To the point where it does not seem like Kelly ever seriously considered him as the starter this year, nor did any other team (it would seem). So it is hard for me to envision any scenario in which Sanchez makes the team better or is part of the team's long-term plan. For those reasons, it would be hard for me to see the rationale in making the switch.

If Bradford continues to do poorly, then he is out of here and maybe Sanchez sticks as a backup or he is gone, too. But we need more to know if he can be a long-term answer or not with this team.

 

[Insein]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

 

[Thunderlips]

It remains a fact that Sanchez was a better QB last year than Bradford has been this year. In every single measurable category. Maybe (probably) I'm not getting the entire picture from the box scores, but Bradford has looked like trash when I've watched him this year, too.

The Sanchize wasn't/isn't head and shoulders above Bradford last year to make me question whether or not he should be the starter this year. To me, the two things that have harmed Bradford the most year are A) bad communication between him and some of his players (bad snaps, misread/misrun routes) and B) horribly slow starts in games. To that, I kind of lay both of those at Chips feet.....particularly B. If, for some reason, Bradford has a slow-starters "mindset"....it falls on Chip to gameplan around that.......be it either in slowing the pace down for the first few minutes, gameplanning a set number of plays or reducing Bradfords role in the O for the first few minutes (more play action/running the ball more etc. etc.).

 

[Amused to Death]

I think that the people talking about hanging your hat on Bradford's upside as compared to Sanchez are making some legitimate points.

However, Sanchez definitely looked like he was getting worse over the course of last year, regardless of what the stats say. They had even less of a downfield game and he was just not effective. To the point where it does not seem like Kelly ever seriously considered him as the starter this year, nor did any other team (it would seem). So it is hard for me to envision any scenario in which Sanchez makes the team better or is part of the team's long-term plan. For those reasons, it would be hard for me to see the rationale in making the switch.

If Bradford continues to do poorly, then he is out of here and maybe Sanchez sticks as a backup or he is gone, too. But we need more to know if he can be a long-term answer or not with this team.

Exactly. Whether or not Sanchez could provide a boost to the offense, they would be no better off than they were the last 2 years - and we already know Kelly wasn't satisfied with that. And as LBL points out, no other team was willing to give Sanchez a shot at starting either. Kelly brought him back as the #2 and that's all he'll be barring injury. It a healthy Bradford for '15.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

Yup you're not going to find a good free agent QB. Top tier and even 2nd/3rd tier type QBs are usually locked up. The only way to get one is to draft and develop one. That requires a whole lot of luck.

 

[JuniorNB]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

Yup you're not going to find a good free agent QB. Top tier and even 2nd/3rd tier type QBs are usually locked up. The only way to get one is to draft and develop one. That requires a whole lot of luck.

Exactly. Teams are signing average quarterbacks like Jay Cutler and Ryan Tannehill for 20 million a year. Every team wants a Rodgers or Brady, but the truth is, there aren't many elite guys out there. And there's certainly no free agents. Chip needs to see if Bradford can develop. It's our only shot at being a true contender. With Sanchez, we are guaranteed battling the Giants for second the next three years.

 

[Mighty Mice]

So, back to the football... Sunday night features a battle between division leaders. CAR opponents have a combined 9-20 record so far, and the Eagles are playing very well defensively during back-to-back wins. Line still CAR -2.5, Vegas seeing this game close to even since the 'home field advantage' is generally around 2 points. Offense playing better on the line (hard to play worse than the first few games) and starting to run more effectively. Optimistic and excited about what these guys can accomplish in the second half of the season, if they stay healthy, with a favorable schedule.

Great quotes/news from OC/DC press conferences today.

LB's - Ryans OK, getting a day of rest today, but fine to play. Hicks playing great, nice pick Chip. Kendrick to try and get back this week, will be easing back into practice as the week goes on. Kiko Alonso back in practice for the first time: https://twitter.com/NFLInjuryNws/status/656848191342706688

QB - Shurmer saying Bradford 'over the injuries' and just needs to play to get better and 'more good plays than bad.': https://twitter.com/EaglesInsider/status/656845887172431872

Run Defense - Playing strong, great at shedding blocks https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/656842700470243328

Physical Defense - 'Sleds break every other day bc they hit them so hard' https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/656842944784265216

 

[fred_1_15301]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

Yup you're not going to find a good free agent QB. Top tier and even 2nd/3rd tier type QBs are usually locked up. The only way to get one is to draft and develop one. That requires a whole lot of luck.

Exactly. Teams are signing average quarterbacks like Jay Cutler and Ryan Tannehill for 20 million a year. Every team wants a Rodgers or Brady, but the truth is, there aren't many elite guys out there. And there's certainly no free agents. Chip needs to see if Bradford can develop. It's our only shot at being a true contender. With Sanchez, we are guaranteed battling the Giants for second the next three years.

Yup this is what I would do if I were Chip. Just wait and hope that Bradford will develop to at least a quality enough QB that can win a superbowl with a very good defense behind him. Also, people were dismissing superbowl talk earlier in this thread but I'm not so sure why? I only see one team in the NFC that looks really strong. It's a really down year for the NFC so if Bradford can get his #### together, the Eagles should be in superbowl conversations.

 

[Mighty Mice]

Ryans, Agholor, Cooper - DNP

Alonso - Limited

Kendricks, Huff - Full

 

[Deamon]

Ryans, Agholor, Cooper - DNP

Alonso - Limited

Kendricks, Huff - Full

Beauty. Like Insein mentioned, if we can just find a way to somehow squeek out this win, 14 days off is going to be awesome to get these guys healthy. We should have a fully rested and healthy team heading into Dallas. If we can do that at 4-3 I will be ecstatic.

Alonso would be huge to help on Olson but sounds like he'll be out.

 

[need2know]

I will be at the snf dallas game. Can't wait

 

[Insein]

I will be at the snf dallas game. Can't wait

Is that SNF too? Man 3 straight primetime games. Americas new team.

 

[Mighty Mice]

Ryans, Agholor, Cooper - DNP

Alonso - Limited

Kendricks, Huff - Full

Beauty. Like Insein mentioned, if we can just find a way to somehow squeek out this win, 14 days off is going to be awesome to get these guys healthy. We should have a fully rested and healthy team heading into Dallas. If we can do that at 4-3 I will be ecstatic.

Alonso would be huge to help on Olson but sounds like he'll be out.

D played great on Monday, getting Kendrick back this week is a huge net plus. Nice to see Alonso getting some reps, but unlikely we see him return until Dallas.

Agreed, healthy out of the bye, full complement of LBs in the fold, for DAL, TB, MIA, DET stretch of schedule.

 

[Tool]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

Yup you're not going to find a good free agent QB. Top tier and even 2nd/3rd tier type QBs are usually locked up. The only way to get one is to draft and develop one. That requires a whole lot of luck.

Exactly. Teams are signing average quarterbacks like Jay Cutler and Ryan Tannehill for 20 million a year. Every team wants a Rodgers or Brady, but the truth is, there aren't many elite guys out there. And there's certainly no free agents. Chip needs to see if Bradford can develop. It's our only shot at being a true contender. With Sanchez, we are guaranteed battling the Giants for second the next three years.

Yup this is what I would do if I were Chip. Just wait and hope that Bradford will develop to at least a quality enough QB that can win a superbowl with a very good defense behind him. Also, people were dismissing superbowl talk earlier in this thread but I'm not so sure why? I only see one team in the NFC that looks really strong. It's a really down year for the NFC so if Bradford can get his #### together, the Eagles should be in superbowl conversations.

How about we wait for Bradford to get his ### together. Then put we put the Eagles in the conversation.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I will be at the snf dallas game. Can't wait

Is that SNF too? Man 3 straight primetime games. Americas new team.

On Thanksgiving, too.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

Yup you're not going to find a good free agent QB. Top tier and even 2nd/3rd tier type QBs are usually locked up. The only way to get one is to draft and develop one. That requires a whole lot of luck.

Exactly. Teams are signing average quarterbacks like Jay Cutler and Ryan Tannehill for 20 million a year. Every team wants a Rodgers or Brady, but the truth is, there aren't many elite guys out there. And there's certainly no free agents. Chip needs to see if Bradford can develop. It's our only shot at being a true contender. With Sanchez, we are guaranteed battling the Giants for second the next three years.

Yup this is what I would do if I were Chip. Just wait and hope that Bradford will develop to at least a quality enough QB that can win a superbowl with a very good defense behind him. Also, people were dismissing superbowl talk earlier in this thread but I'm not so sure why? I only see one team in the NFC that looks really strong. It's a really down year for the NFC so if Bradford can get his #### together, the Eagles should be in superbowl conversations.

How about we wait for Bradford to get his ### together. Then put we put the Eagles in the conversation.

Yeah isn't that exactly what I said.

 

[modogg]

I will be at the snf dallas game. Can't wait

Is that SNF too? Man 3 straight primetime games. Americas new team.

On Thanksgiving, too.

oh nice, i didn't even realize they played Thanksgiving again. makes that holiday much more enjoyable

 

[Bob Magaw]

DE Fletcher Cox is playing at an All-Pro level, the best of his career. He is breaking out.

 

[Insein]

It's almost blasphemy to say but don't Cox And Logan give you visions of Reggie and Jerome sometimes?

 

[JuniorNB]

It's almost blasphemy to say but don't Cox And Logan give you visions of Reggie and Jerome sometimes?

Reported

 

[ShaHBucks]

See you in a few, Insein.

 

[Insein]

 

[JuniorNB]

Ok, so ESPN has the Eagles ranked third in their current power rankings. Don't ask me what formula they're using. I'd have them around 11 or 12.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110680/espns-football-power-index-rankings-for-oct-20

1 Patriots 8.7 -- 8.1 0.2 0.5
2 Cardinals 7.9 -- 4.3 3.8 -0.2
3 Eagles 5.3 +1 -0.4 5.3 0.3
4 Packers 5.1 -1 5.7 -0.5 -0.1
5 Steelers 4.5 +1 3.1 1.0 0.4
6 Jets 4.3 +3 -0.9 5.4 -0.1
7 Bengals 3.9 -- 3.6 0.0 0.2
8 Seahawks 3.2 -3 0.2 3.2 -0.2
9 Falcons 2.5 -1 3.8 -1.1 -0.1
10 Bills 2.5 -- -0.2 2.8 -0.1
11 Colts 2.4 +1 3.3 -1.2 0.3
12 Broncos 2.2 -1 -3.5 5.3 0.4
13 Panthers 1.6 +2 -0.2 2.2 -0.4
14 Ravens 0.5 -1 -0.9 0.7 0.6
15 Cowboys 0.4 -1 1.2 -0.9 0.1
16 Dolphins -0.4 +8 0.0 -0.2 -0.2
17 Chiefs -0.5 -1 -1.8 0.4 0.9
18 Chargers -1.1 -- 1.4 -2.0 -0.4
19 Vikings -1.1 -- -2.0 0.8 0.0
20 Giants -1.2 -3 0.0 -0.9 -0.3
21 Saints -1.6 +1 2.6 -3.8 -0.4
22 Rams -1.7 -2 -5.0 3.3 0.0
23 Browns -3 +2 -2.0 -1.3 0.2
24 Lions -3.2 +2 -0.7 -1.8 -0.8
25 Texans -3.2 +2 -1.9 -1.2 -0.2
26 Redskins -3.2 -3 -2.7 -0.1 -0.4
27 Titans -4.1 -6 -3.0 -0.9 -0.2
28 49ers -4.9 -- -0.4 -4.7 0.3
29 Raiders -5.9 -- -1.8 -3.8 -0.2
30 Bears -6.1 -- -1.7 -4.4 0.1
31 Jaguars -6.4 -- -3.7 -3.0 0.3
32 Buccaneers -7.5 -- -4.7 -2.6 -0.2

 

[Late225]

Ok, so ESPN has the Eagles ranked third in their current power rankings. Don't ask me what formula they're using. I'd have them around 11 or 12.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110680/espns-football-power-index-rankings-for-oct-20

3 Eagles 5.3 +1 -0.4 5.3 0.3

At the top of that page, it says "For a full explanation of how the FPI is put together, please read this explainer. For more background, you also can read this Q&A."

 

[JuniorNB]

Ok, so ESPN has the Eagles ranked third in their current power rankings. Don't ask me what formula they're using. I'd have them around 11 or 12.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110680/espns-football-power-index-rankings-for-oct-20

3 Eagles 5.3 +1 -0.4 5.3 0.3

At the top of that page, it says "For a full explanation of how the FPI is put together, please read this explainer. For more background, you also can read this Q&A."

Yeah, I know they go by strength of schedule and other things. But I can tell you right now and without hesitation, they are not currently the third best team in the league. They're headed in the right direction, but nowhere close yet.

 

[Thunderlips]

It's almost blasphemy to say but don't Cox And Logan give you visions of Reggie and Jerome sometimes?

Have a nice season, Guy.

 

[Insein]

Right right I know. They're actually better considering all the roughing rules and illegal hands to the face calls now.

 

[Insein]

Ok, so ESPN has the Eagles ranked third in their current power rankings. Don't ask me what formula they're using. I'd have them around 11 or 12.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110680/espns-football-power-index-rankings-for-oct-20

3 Eagles 5.3 +1 -0.4 5.3 0.3

At the top of that page, it says "For a full explanation of how the FPI is put together, please read this explainer. For more background, you also can read this Q&A."

Yeah, I know they go by strength of schedule and other things. But I can tell you right now and without hesitation, they are not currently the third best team in the league. They're headed in the right direction, but nowhere close yet.

I don't goto ESPN anymore since they're Facebook now but I bet the commentors are losing their ####.

 

[The Noid]

Even without the audio (that the cell phone guy probably has), it looks pretty clear that the Giants fan was the instigator. Not saying he should have been punched, but he sure wasn't doing the things you do NOT to get punched.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20151022_ap_08b4a36bee334762a8e359240b1ba5c4.html

This is exactly why whenever someone asks me "Can I wear my [Eagles opponent jersey] to the game?" I say, "Yes, as long as you're not an obnoxious ****, you'll be fine."