*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (3 Viewers)

[JuniorNB]

Even without the audio (that the cell phone guy probably has), it looks pretty clear that the Giants fan was the instigator. Not saying he should have been punched, but he sure wasn't doing the things you do NOT to get punched. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20151022_ap_08b4a36bee334762a8e359240b1ba5c4.htmlThis is exactly why whenever someone asks me "Can I wear my [Eagles opponent jersey] to the game?" I say, "Yes, as long as you're not an obnoxious ****, you'll be fine."

exactly. That guy definitely had an ### kicking coming. And I'd say the same thing if he was an Eagles fan.

 

[Amused to Death]

Wow, the guy was clearly looking to instigate. Eagles fans kept walking away and he just kept following, running his mouth the whole time. He deserved a punch with or without his Eli jersey.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Ok, so ESPN has the Eagles ranked third in their current power rankings. Don't ask me what formula they're using. I'd have them around 11 or 12.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110680/espns-football-power-index-rankings-for-oct-20

1 Patriots 8.7 -- 8.1 0.2 0.5

2 Cardinals 7.9 -- 4.3 3.8 -0.2

3 Eagles 5.3 +1 -0.4 5.3 0.3

4 Packers 5.1 -1 5.7 -0.5 -0.1

5 Steelers 4.5 +1 3.1 1.0 0.4

6 Jets 4.3 +3 -0.9 5.4 -0.1

7 Bengals 3.9 -- 3.6 0.0 0.2

8 Seahawks 3.2 -3 0.2 3.2 -0.2

9 Falcons 2.5 -1 3.8 -1.1 -0.1

10 Bills 2.5 -- -0.2 2.8 -0.1

11 Colts 2.4 +1 3.3 -1.2 0.3

12 Broncos 2.2 -1 -3.5 5.3 0.4

13 Panthers 1.6 +2 -0.2 2.2 -0.4

14 Ravens 0.5 -1 -0.9 0.7 0.6

15 Cowboys 0.4 -1 1.2 -0.9 0.1

16 Dolphins -0.4 +8 0.0 -0.2 -0.2

17 Chiefs -0.5 -1 -1.8 0.4 0.9

18 Chargers -1.1 -- 1.4 -2.0 -0.4

19 Vikings -1.1 -- -2.0 0.8 0.0

20 Giants -1.2 -3 0.0 -0.9 -0.3

21 Saints -1.6 +1 2.6 -3.8 -0.4

22 Rams -1.7 -2 -5.0 3.3 0.0

23 Browns -3 +2 -2.0 -1.3 0.2

24 Lions -3.2 +2 -0.7 -1.8 -0.8

25 Texans -3.2 +2 -1.9 -1.2 -0.2

26 Redskins -3.2 -3 -2.7 -0.1 -0.4

27 Titans -4.1 -6 -3.0 -0.9 -0.2

28 49ers -4.9 -- -0.4 -4.7 0.3

29 Raiders -5.9 -- -1.8 -3.8 -0.2

30 Bears -6.1 -- -1.7 -4.4 0.1

31 Jaguars -6.4 -- -3.7 -3.0 0.3

32 Buccaneers -7.5 -- -4.7 -2.6 -0.2

That was my point earlier. The league as a whole really does suck this year. I have no issues with the Eagles at # 3 iif we are not just going by record alone. The Eagles seem to be dominant at one phase of the game which is more than most teams can claim. The Pats and Packers are the only 2 elite teams. Sad state of affairs in the NFL this year.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Although I would probably put the Eagles behind Arizona and Pittsburgh for now

 

[fred_1_15301]

Actually Cincy is criminally low. They should be 3rd at worst

 

[Insein]

If you reversed the Eagles and Bengals on that List, I'd be fine with it. I get that we have a dominant defense and an offense that's been bad but still scores points. But still we're not that high. This was a troll job to get hits on a page or drive comments or something. Nothing gets people angry faster than saying the Eagles are good when we aren't.

 

[renesauz]

Look I am not advocating pulling Bradford.....yet. But saying people are ridiculous for considering going to Sanchez is not accurate. Consider:

Bradford: 6 starts in this offense, 63.2% Comp. pct, 9 TD's, 9 Ints, 6.8 Y/A, 80.0 QB Rating

Sanchez: 8 starts in this offense, 64.1% Comp. pct, 14 TD's, 11 Ints, 7.8 Y/A, 88.4 QB Rating

So they are performing pretty similar, with Sanchez having slightly better statistics. Perhaps since Sanchez has been in the offense a year longer, he will step it up sooner than Bradford. I don't know. But I think up to now, Sanchez throws a better deep ball in this offense which it needs. Bradford's 3 redzone ints in the last 3 weeks have all been underthrown, and the Cooper TD last night was also underthrown which almost led to it being incomplete or intercepted.

Bradford is the QB for now, but I don't think we are really downgrading if we go to Sanchez.

Let's be honest, those 9 interceptions are misleading. The one against Atlanta was a perfectly thrown ball that went through Matthews's hands and into the defenders to end the game. That's not on Bradford. And last night, Cooper mysteriously decided to do just stop running. It was basically a fair catch for the defender.

But I like the stats you posted. Bradford is playing 'horribly' and his stats are nearly identical to Sanchez, who you all seem to think was good last year. That's my point. We know what Sanchez is. He's not getting any better. That's what he is. We don't know what Bradford might become once he's more familiar with the offense and gets more confident with his health. Maybe this is it. Maybe Bradford doesn't improve. Then we don't resign him. But he's as good right now as Sanchez is. So what would be the point of making a switch and not improve?

Bradford has been in the league longer than Sanchez.

True. And he's been on a terrible Rams team with no weapons and then was injured two years in a row. Sanchez is not improving. Did you forget about last year? He was very very average. If that's your goal with the Eagles, to be average, then Sanchez is your man. I'd like more than that.

So Sanchez Bradford can't improve with more experience in the offense but Bradford Sanchez can? Sorry I think that's more wishful thinking than reality.

We could just as easily reverse the names and the statement is every bit as valid. The difference here is that Bradford has the superior natural skillset, and 2 years worth of rust to shake off.

Sanchez is a quality backup or even a lower end starter, but Bradford still has the higher ceiling.

 

[duaneok66]

Even without the audio (that the cell phone guy probably has), it looks pretty clear that the Giants fan was the instigator. Not saying he should have been punched, but he sure wasn't doing the things you do NOT to get punched. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20151022_ap_08b4a36bee334762a8e359240b1ba5c4.html This is exactly why whenever someone asks me "Can I wear my [Eagles opponent jersey] to the game?" I say, "Yes, as long as you're not an obnoxious ****, you'll be fine."

I'd be mad too if I had to sit there and watch my team get whooped!

 

[renesauz]

Watching Kaepernick play, I find it difficult to believe anyone would want him in Philly. Whatever advantage he might bring in the read option would be more than lost pretty much everywhere else

 

[duaneok66]

Watching Kaepernick play, I find it difficult to believe anyone would want him in Philly. Whatever advantage he might bring in the read option would be more than lost pretty much everywhere else

who wants him? The school of the blind?

 

[fred_1_15301]

Watching Kaepernick play, I find it difficult to believe anyone would want him in Philly. Whatever advantage he might bring in the read option would be more than lost pretty much everywhere else

who wants him? The school of the blind?

Mikey Miss is the only one I can think of. Hard to believe because I consider him to be pretty intelligent. Just stubborn I guess.

 

[need2know]

The first month or so kap was in the league I was really liking him but it's been a steady decline. I wonder how long sf is gonna roll with him? His negatives far outweigh the positives. Yeah he can run and has a Canon arm. That's about it.

 

[modogg]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

i agree that seeing a Kaep, RG3, or Geno Smith would be interesting. i grouped those guys for the simple fact that they are young enough and probably cheap. But i couldn't predict who is better in what areas or best suite for what Chip could run (my guess would be Kaep). i don't know if there is a potential Tyrod Taylor (hate hearing the rumour he wanted to come here and Eagles chose Tebow to bring in instead) out there but would be nice to dig up some young potential.

 

[fred_1_15301]

The first month or so kap was in the league I was really liking him but it's been a steady decline. I wonder how long sf is gonna roll with him? His negatives far outweigh the positives. Yeah he can run and has a Canon arm. That's about it.

He's a talented athlete but not a talented QB. You put him in Chip's system and he probably tears it up for 4 or 5 games. Then teams will have enough tape on him and he will be exposed.

 

[duaneok66]

Respectful response:

How can a Kaep or RGIII signing be interesting?

 

[renesauz]

Russel Wilson would be the ultimate weapon in Kelly's offense if we wanna dream

 

[modogg]

Even without the audio (that the cell phone guy probably has), it looks pretty clear that the Giants fan was the instigator. Not saying he should have been punched, but he sure wasn't doing the things you do NOT to get punched. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20151022_ap_08b4a36bee334762a8e359240b1ba5c4.html This is exactly why whenever someone asks me "Can I wear my [Eagles opponent jersey] to the game?" I say, "Yes, as long as you're not an obnoxious ****, you'll be fine."

the Giants fan was on 94.1 with Ennis today. i'm thinking it was legit him the way Spike Eskin was kissing his ### a bit. guy said he was really hammered. i had it on in the background but the way the guy sounded he seemed like a guy who would get punched

what worried me when i watched it (and i watched it a bunch and got lost in the youtube vortex that night), is that i really didn't think there was anything wrong with it. i was particularly pleased the guy laid him out and they moved on. no cheap shots when the kid was dropped or anything. it's a shame, but that is more the norm these days

 

[modogg]

Respectful response:

How can a Kaep or RGIII signing be interesting?

yes Russell Wilson would be great, but as for these 2 guys, what would it hurt. i'm not suggesting trading your starting QB and a 2nd round pick, but picking them up for a cheap exchange would be interesting. i would much rather see RG3 as a back-up than Sanchez. Sanchez is serviceable, but definitely not exciting or gives you an interesting element. i don't know how broken RG3 is, but my sense is he needs a change of scenery and the Washington football team has done him a disservice

 

[duaneok66]

RGIII has done himself a disservice. He has been absolutely horrible. I don't understand that mentality "it wouldn't hurt" . . .

Bradford has been very erratic (and was bad this past week) , but he is LIGHT YEARS better than RGIII.

 

[modogg]

RGIII has done himself a disservice. He has been absolutely horrible. I don't understand that mentality "it wouldn't hurt" . . .

Bradford has been very erratic (and was bad this past week) , but he is LIGHT YEARS better than RGIII.

yeah, i'm not suggesting he replace bradford. i was thinking more as a back-up so he could practice and learn a system and you can see what you have. i could see an issue being people would be calling for RG3 now with how Bradford has looked and it would be a potential distraction for the team. at least you don't hear many people calling for Sanchez

 

[Deamon]

Of the potential 2016 free agent QBs, Bradford is probably the best in the list with guys like Vick, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, Schaub, Stanton, Wheeden etc. It's a pile of crap.

Trade would be the only option. And as much as I would throw up doing it, I would try to pry Kaepernick away from SF and see how Chips offense looks with a guy that can run and kind of pass instead of a guy that passes and can't run at all.

i agree that seeing a Kaep, RG3, or Geno Smith would be interesting. i grouped those guys for the simple fact that they are young enough and probably cheap. But i couldn't predict who is better in what areas or best suite for what Chip could run (my guess would be Kaep). i don't know if there is a potential Tyrod Taylor (hate hearing the rumour he wanted to come here and Eagles chose Tebow to bring in instead) out there but would be nice to dig up some young potential.

Like someone else mentioned a few weeks ago, Taylor signed with Buffalo BEFORE Tebow signed with us. It was never "tebow over tyrod". Also, almost every other team didn't like Tyrod. Yes some guys turn out to be surprises, but it wasn't necessarily a big mess up not signing the guy based on how good he was looking at the time.

 

[Mighty Mice]

#Seahawks RCB Cary Williams is No. 100 out of 100 cornerbacks in @PFF's pass-coverage grades over the last 3 weeks.

https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/657199465758138368

Think he's still tired from last years' practices?

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Wow, the guy was clearly looking to instigate. Eagles fans kept walking away and he just kept following, running his mouth the whole time. He deserved a punch with or without his Eli jersey.

Yeah but look at the little pipsqueak. I leave things in the toilet every morning bigger than him. At one point, that small woman backed him up LOL. Napoleon complex and beer muscles are not a winning combination.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Look I am not advocating pulling Bradford.....yet. But saying people are ridiculous for considering going to Sanchez is not accurate. Consider:

Bradford: 6 starts in this offense, 63.2% Comp. pct, 9 TD's, 9 Ints, 6.8 Y/A, 80.0 QB Rating

Sanchez: 8 starts in this offense, 64.1% Comp. pct, 14 TD's, 11 Ints, 7.8 Y/A, 88.4 QB Rating

So they are performing pretty similar, with Sanchez having slightly better statistics. Perhaps since Sanchez has been in the offense a year longer, he will step it up sooner than Bradford. I don't know. But I think up to now, Sanchez throws a better deep ball in this offense which it needs. Bradford's 3 redzone ints in the last 3 weeks have all been underthrown, and the Cooper TD last night was also underthrown which almost led to it being incomplete or intercepted.

Bradford is the QB for now, but I don't think we are really downgrading if we go to Sanchez.

Let's be honest, those 9 interceptions are misleading. The one against Atlanta was a perfectly thrown ball that went through Matthews's hands and into the defenders to end the game. That's not on Bradford. And last night, Cooper mysteriously decided to do just stop running. It was basically a fair catch for the defender.

But I like the stats you posted. Bradford is playing 'horribly' and his stats are nearly identical to Sanchez, who you all seem to think was good last year. That's my point. We know what Sanchez is. He's not getting any better. That's what he is. We don't know what Bradford might become once he's more familiar with the offense and gets more confident with his health. Maybe this is it. Maybe Bradford doesn't improve. Then we don't resign him. But he's as good right now as Sanchez is. So what would be the point of making a switch and not improve?

Bradford has been in the league longer than Sanchez.

True. And he's been on a terrible Rams team with no weapons and then was injured two years in a row. Sanchez is not improving. Did you forget about last year? He was very very average. If that's your goal with the Eagles, to be average, then Sanchez is your man. I'd like more than that.

So Sanchez Bradford can't improve with more experience in the offense but Bradford Sanchez can? Sorry I think that's more wishful thinking than reality.

We could just as easily reverse the names and the statement is every bit as valid. The difference here is that Bradford has the superior natural skillset, and 2 years worth of rust to shake off.

Sanchez is a quality backup or even a lower end starter, but Bradford still has the higher ceiling.

Of course I would admit your first line, but it's hardly relevant based on what my post was in response to. I never said Bradford couldn't improve some one else said "Sanchez is what he is".

The rest of your post is purely opinion based and I'll just say that my opinion is not in line with it.

 

[Deamon]

Jeez, pretty quiet in here for game day. Is there a game day thread yet?

 

[Insein]

I'm so unenthused by this game. Feels like a slow death kind of outcome.

 

[need2know]

?

 

[Mighty Mice]

19 takeaways for the D, through 6.75 games. Very good at getting the ball from the other guys.

 

[Deamon]

19 takeaways for the D, through 6.75 games. Very good at getting the ball from the other guys.

Ya, am worried this won't keep up. D making great turnovers, but still let Carolina run all over us. Obviously WR drops are now the big worry. Didn't really expect to win this one anyways though.

 

[Insein]

The offense has looked average to bad in 7 games now. Who can we fire?

 

[Raider Nation]

Chip has to swallow his pride and admit that the Bradford experiment was ill-fated. Get Sanchez ready to play. He can think on his feet, he's capable of escaping trouble in the pocket, and he's willing to throw the ball up the seams. All things Bradford has shown no signs of.

 

[GoBirds]

The offense has looked average to bad in 7 games now. Who can we fire?

Who do you want, Shurmer?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Chip has to swallow his pride and admit that the Bradford experiment was ill-fated. Get Sanchez ready to play. He can think on his feet, he's capable of escaping trouble in the pocket, and he's willing to throw the ball up the seams. All things Bradford has shown no signs of.

And the WR's will just get open and catch the ball too!!! Sanchez can fix Everything!

 

[Raider Nation]

Chip has to swallow his pride and admit that the Bradford experiment was ill-fated. Get Sanchez ready to play. He can think on his feet, he's capable of escaping trouble in the pocket, and he's willing to throw the ball up the seams. All things Bradford has shown no signs of.

And the WR's will just get open and catch the ball too!!! Sanchez can fix Everything!

By all means, keep rolling with Bradford and his 0.0000006 yards per pass attempt.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Chip has to swallow his pride and admit that the Bradford experiment was ill-fated. Get Sanchez ready to play. He can think on his feet, he's capable of escaping trouble in the pocket, and he's willing to throw the ball up the seams. All things Bradford has shown no signs of.

And the WR's will just get open and catch the ball too!!! Sanchez can fix Everything!

By all means, keep rolling with Bradford and his 0.0000006 yards per pass attempt.

It can work much like a run if you have people who can catch and get open.

Only issue I have with Chip, for this game, is the playcall after the TO.

 

[Insein]

The offense has looked average to bad in 7 games now. Who can we fire?

Who do you want, Shurmer?

I think that's fair. I Need a sacrifice to the football gods.

 

[modogg]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

i'd like to see how many drops Mathew, Ertz, Sproles, and Cooper have had as Eagles in past years. I mentioned in the game thread, but i can't remember seeing a whole team just lose the ability to catch. i honestly don't know the answer, and if this suggests that our entire team is that less talented than the rest of the league. it's just strange that all of a sudden, most of the team can't catch.

 

[Deamon]

Chip has to swallow his pride and admit that the Bradford experiment was ill-fated. Get Sanchez ready to play. He can think on his feet, he's capable of escaping trouble in the pocket, and he's willing to throw the ball up the seams. All things Bradford has shown no signs of.

You missed this attempt last week. Not going to happen.

 

[Deamon]

The offense has looked average to bad in 7 games now. Who can we fire?

39 points and over 500 yards of offense vs the saints was "average to bad"?

 

[Deamon]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

i'd like to see how many drops Mathew, Ertz, Sproles, and Cooper have had as Eagles in past years. I mentioned in the game thread, but i can't remember seeing a whole team just lose the ability to catch. i honestly don't know the answer, and if this suggests that our entire team is that less talented than the rest of the league. it's just strange that all of a sudden, most of the team can't catch.

Sam has a much slicker hand sweat then Foles/Sanchez. The balls that used to hit those guys right in the hands were much easier to catch then the balls that Sam throws that hits them right in the hands.

 

[modogg]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

i'd like to see how many drops Mathew, Ertz, Sproles, and Cooper have had as Eagles in past years. I mentioned in the game thread, but i can't remember seeing a whole team just lose the ability to catch. i honestly don't know the answer, and if this suggests that our entire team is that less talented than the rest of the league. it's just strange that all of a sudden, most of the team can't catch.

Sam has a much slicker hand sweat then Foles/Sanchez. The balls that used to hit those guys right in the hands were much easier to catch then the balls that Sam throws that hits them right in the hands.

so no honest answer? really i'm not a Bradford nut-hugger or looking to lynch the guy. Am i the only one that feels it is strange for an entire team to have so many drops, especially if it goes against their history and experience in the league? i don't think the issue is that our RBs/TEs/WRs are the least talented in the league, and am curious as to why this is an issue every week. is it a coaching issue and lack of prep?

 

[Deamon]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

i'd like to see how many drops Mathew, Ertz, Sproles, and Cooper have had as Eagles in past years. I mentioned in the game thread, but i can't remember seeing a whole team just lose the ability to catch. i honestly don't know the answer, and if this suggests that our entire team is that less talented than the rest of the league. it's just strange that all of a sudden, most of the team can't catch.

Sam has a much slicker hand sweat then Foles/Sanchez. The balls that used to hit those guys right in the hands were much easier to catch then the balls that Sam throws that hits them right in the hands.

so no honest answer? really i'm not a Bradford nut-hugger or looking to lynch the guy. Am i the only one that feels it is strange for an entire team to have so many drops, especially if it goes against their history and experience in the league? i don't think the issue is that our RBs/TEs/WRs are the least talented in the league, and am curious as to why this is an issue every week. is it a coaching issue and lack of prep?

Yes it is strange... but what are you suggesting? Like even brainstorming, are you suggesting that somehow, the spin on his balls, or the force he throws it with makes them much harder to catch?

 

[modogg]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

i'd like to see how many drops Mathew, Ertz, Sproles, and Cooper have had as Eagles in past years. I mentioned in the game thread, but i can't remember seeing a whole team just lose the ability to catch. i honestly don't know the answer, and if this suggests that our entire team is that less talented than the rest of the league. it's just strange that all of a sudden, most of the team can't catch.

Sam has a much slicker hand sweat then Foles/Sanchez. The balls that used to hit those guys right in the hands were much easier to catch then the balls that Sam throws that hits them right in the hands.

so no honest answer? really i'm not a Bradford nut-hugger or looking to lynch the guy. Am i the only one that feels it is strange for an entire team to have so many drops, especially if it goes against their history and experience in the league? i don't think the issue is that our RBs/TEs/WRs are the least talented in the league, and am curious as to why this is an issue every week. is it a coaching issue and lack of prep?

Yes it is strange... but what are you suggesting? Like even brainstorming, are you suggesting that somehow, the spin on his balls, or the force he throws it with makes them much harder to catch?

I remember years ago there was a suggestion that Mcnabb threw the ball too hard on short patterns and that he was causing drops cause he couldn't put enough "touch" on some of his passes. I thought it was silly at the time because these are professional players and people looked to blame Mcnabb where ever possible but maybe something similar is occurring here?

To be honest I'm not suggesting anything and am wondering if there has ever been a situation where a team suddenly forgets how to catch and possible reasons why that would happen. Hell I bet Chip is wondering the same thing.

 

[kiddchr]

I would also be curious as to why there seems to be more drops this season by the WR, TE, RB's. Does anyone have the number of drops stats handy? Also, how much does Bradford differ in throwing velocity, timing of routes, and ball placement?

 

[Deamon]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

i'd like to see how many drops Mathew, Ertz, Sproles, and Cooper have had as Eagles in past years. I mentioned in the game thread, but i can't remember seeing a whole team just lose the ability to catch. i honestly don't know the answer, and if this suggests that our entire team is that less talented than the rest of the league. it's just strange that all of a sudden, most of the team can't catch.

Sam has a much slicker hand sweat then Foles/Sanchez. The balls that used to hit those guys right in the hands were much easier to catch then the balls that Sam throws that hits them right in the hands.

so no honest answer? really i'm not a Bradford nut-hugger or looking to lynch the guy. Am i the only one that feels it is strange for an entire team to have so many drops, especially if it goes against their history and experience in the league? i don't think the issue is that our RBs/TEs/WRs are the least talented in the league, and am curious as to why this is an issue every week. is it a coaching issue and lack of prep?

Yes it is strange... but what are you suggesting? Like even brainstorming, are you suggesting that somehow, the spin on his balls, or the force he throws it with makes them much harder to catch?

I remember years ago there was a suggestion that Mcnabb threw the ball too hard on short patterns and that he was causing drops cause he couldn't put enough "touch" on some of his passes. I thought it was silly at the time because these are professional players and people looked to blame Mcnabb where ever possible but maybe something similar is occurring here?

To be honest I'm not suggesting anything and am wondering if there has ever been a situation where a team suddenly forgets how to catch and possible reasons why that would happen. Hell I bet Chip is wondering the same thing.

Ya I'm not sure what is going on to be honest. These balls are literally IN their hands and just dropped. I don't think they're 'too hard' like maybe Mcnabbs may have been. It is probably mental issues... maybe they feel more pressure, or are overthinking it, etc. Or maybe the WR's simply aren't that good. Maclin may just have better hands then Matthews. Either way, it is a huge issue. You catch 3/4 of those balls that hit their hands and get dropped, and we are putting up more points, giving our qb more confidence, and his completion percentage becomes very high.

I'm hoping someone with better stat-finding skills then me can post a list of each of our RB/WR/TEs and how many drops they each have this year. And list how many we have compared to the rest of the nfl. Would be interested to see that.

 

[Deamon]

I would also be curious as to why there seems to be more drops this season by the WR, TE, RB's. Does anyone have the number of drops stats handy? Also, how much does Bradford differ in throwing velocity, timing of routes, and ball placement?

Maybe because of the whole deflategate scandal, the refs are ACTUALLY testing/recording the PSI's of the balls before the game and adjusting them? Maybe more teams liked to play with slightly softer balls which makes them easier to catch and now they're a bit harder to catch all over the league?

Don't really know, just grasping at straws here. Didn't know league wide the drops were up by a lot.

 

[Billy Bats]

Peters said he will be ready for Cowboys in two weeks.

12:05am - 26 Oct 15

 

[duaneok66]

Looking at our WR's snd TE's---is this the worst group in the league? If not, how many are we ahead of?

i'd like to see how many drops Mathew, Ertz, Sproles, and Cooper have had as Eagles in past years. I mentioned in the game thread, but i can't remember seeing a whole team just lose the ability to catch. i honestly don't know the answer, and if this suggests that our entire team is that less talented than the rest of the league. it's just strange that all of a sudden, most of the team can't catch.

Sam has a much slicker hand sweat then Foles/Sanchez. The balls that used to hit those guys right in the hands were much easier to catch then the balls that Sam throws that hits them right in the hands.

so no honest answer? really i'm not a Bradford nut-hugger or looking to lynch the guy. Am i the only one that feels it is strange for an entire team to have so many drops, especially if it goes against their history and experience in the league? i don't think the issue is that our RBs/TEs/WRs are the least talented in the league, and am curious as to why this is an issue every week. is it a coaching issue and lack of prep?

Yes it is strange... but what are you suggesting? Like even brainstorming, are you suggesting that somehow, the spin on his balls, or the force he throws it with makes them much harder to catch?

I remember years ago there was a suggestion that Mcnabb threw the ball too hard on short patterns and that he was causing drops cause he couldn't put enough "touch" on some of his passes. I thought it was silly at the time because these are professional players and people looked to blame Mcnabb where ever possible but maybe something similar is occurring here?

To be honest I'm not suggesting anything and am wondering if there has ever been a situation where a team suddenly forgets how to catch and possible reasons why that would happen. Hell I bet Chip is wondering the same thing.

Ya I'm not sure what is going on to be honest. These balls are literally IN their hands and just dropped. I don't think they're 'too hard' like maybe Mcnabbs may have been. It is probably mental issues... maybe they feel more pressure, or are overthinking it, etc. Or maybe the WR's simply aren't that good. Maclin may just have better hands then Matthews. Either way, it is a huge issue. You catch 3/4 of those balls that hit their hands and get dropped, and we are putting up more points, giving our qb more confidence, and his completion percentage becomes very high.

I'm hoping someone with better stat-finding skills then me can post a list of each of our RB/WR/TEs and how many drops they each have this year. And list how many we have compared to the rest of the nfl. Would be interested to see that.

Great post.

Not a big fan of the "drop" stat though - because unlike most stats - it's subjective.

For example (slightly off topic) if I have to hear "He has an interception . . . no - he dropped it!!!" I will go crazy.

Those guys play defense for a reason. And just because you get a hand (or two) on it, doesn't mean it's an easy catch. Also, the Welker "drop" in the Super Bowl comes to mind. It would have been a fantastic catch had he made it. Ball was thrown high and behind him. Doesn't make it a drop when he doesn't get it. But it's called a drop because the Pats failed in a crucial situation.

That being said - most of the drops last night were legitimate.

Jordan Matthews is stealing money this year.

 

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The offense has looked average to bad in 7 games now. Who can we fire?

Who do you want, Shurmer?

I think that's fair. I Need a sacrifice to the football gods.

Ok let's do it.