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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (2 Viewers)
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krista4
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What do you think is causing Paul to get so little traction? If nothing else, he seems to offer a clear alternative to the social conservatives and the whatever-Trump-is, and I'd think that should get him more support than he's had.
Maybe it's the hair.
timschochet
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Weird strategy. He wanted to attract young people to the Republican party- nothing wrong with that, but he concentrated on issues like NSA which don't concern the likely primary voters that he needed to pick up. He tried to paint himself as the "new alternative", but unfortunately that spot was taken by Mr. Trump. Paul's isolationist libertarianism is catching on with the GOP but not quite yet.
Mostly though, his personality is very off-putting. He just seems like a #### all the time.
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RBM
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Leroy Hoard
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This thread is in about the same shape as the current version of the GOP.
timschochet
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Latest speculation I've heard today: the Republican race will not be decided going into a brokered convention. In order to stop Trump, the GOP will turn to Paul Ryan.
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fatguyinalittlecoat
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I don't understand how this would work. Why would all the Trump and Cruz delegates vote for Ryan?
timschochet
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I dunno. Brokered convention, everybody needs to unite behind one guy, Ryan is supposedly the only one who can unite all the disparate parts of the GOP right now. That's the theory.
SIDA!
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If anyone in the GOP leadership thinks they can just have a brokered convention...insert their puppet...and all is well for the general...then go for it.
Like I said...I am in the "burn this ####er to the ground" camp.
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timschochet
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I believe you are. THEY don't think that, in the end, you'll have enough company. Personally I don't know if they're right or wrong; time will tell.
timschochet
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It's interesting you brought up the Civil War, because the Republicans of 2016 are almost like the Democrats of 1860- except that the divisions are not of a sectional nature.
RBM
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fatguyinalittlecoat
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Righetti
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Sure but he took a loan from the big bad bailout bank to run a campaign against big bad bailout banks
SaintsInDome2006
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Let's see if this was Hillary...
...we have close family connections to GS, plus $tring$ running right to Wall Street.
How would Hillary opponents react?
Of course Hillary has both of those things as well. The idea a politician can run against Wall Street and do their bidding at the same time is obviously more than possible.
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bigbottom
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No it's not, for the reasons explained by elbowrm above. If Obama had been born in Kenya, he would not have been a US citizen at birth. The issue has to do with his mom's age. This is not the case for Cruz. There is a clear basis for distinguishing between the Obama hypothetical and Cruz's Canadian birth.
bigbottom
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timschochet
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Because for most of them Wall Street is not the enemy that it currently is for some progressives. What's Kasich going to say? He was the head of Lehman Brothers.
BigSteelThrill
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Heidi Cruz, 42, works as a managing director at the investment banking firm Goldman Sachs in Houston.
If he gets the nom, all kinds of stuff will come out.
lod01
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fatguyinalittlecoat
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I've watched at least part of the other JV debates but pretty sure I'm gonna pass on this one. Fiorina, Huckabee and Santorum? Not fun.
SIDA!
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Not even sure why we are having the second tier debates now that we are in 2016 and a couple weeks before the first primary. After Iowa...it should go away, imo.
They have had plenty of time to make an impact with voters.
krista4
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ETA: I particularly think that's true of those who've been relegated, which I guess is all but Santorum at this point...they've had their chances to make an impact by virtue of the varsity debates, and they haven't. They need just to go away.
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Arizona Ron
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How long tonight before Chris Christie points to the camera while leaning on the podium to do his horrible Joe the plumber type-schtick?
roadkill1292
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Who knew that the GOP would be at the forefront of promotion and relegation in this country?krista4 said:SIDA! said:
ETA: I particularly think that's true of those who've been relegated, which I guess is all but Santorum at this point...they've had their chances to make an impact by virtue of the varsity debates, and they haven't. They need just to go away.
Fennis
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Cruz has come back down in Iowa, he and Trump are virtually tied in the polls. Iowa will be a good test, Trump is not strong organizationally in Iowa, and in a caucus state that is a problem. I am predicting much worse than expectations from him in Iowa.
Trump will win NH going away.
Trump will win NH going away.
-fish-
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you think if the GOP brokers a convention and hands the nomination to Ryan that Trump just goes along with it? his ego wouldn't let him do that.
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