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If they can get ahead, it would be a pretty good start. They should get some sacks against that line with Eli the statue, especially if the Giants are playing from behind.I'm actually debating starting the 49ers defense this week
Depends on how he plays of course. Oakland is beyond horrible on defense, so hard to judge him on that one game. He does get the ball out quick, but doesn't have much arm strength. His longer throws kind of float and against a good defense, that will be an issue.
Like I said before: he’s the new Shaun Hill back in the Singletary era. Hill was a gamer who lacked arm strength, yet ran Mike Martz’s offense a lot crisper than whoever else was at quarterback with the 49ers then. Martz did something amazing though. He tweaked his offense to adjust for the lack of talent the 49ers had back then, and it even started to work, but Singletary was too old school and didn’t like to pass the ball that much, rather his philosophy. - that weirdly was Harbaugh’s in a way - was about the run game and defense. It was funny seeing Hill taking deep drops and trying to push the ball forward. But he adjusted to the offense and got the ball out quicker, yet the lack of arm strength is what made him a perrinial back up quarterback, despite his knowledge of the offense.
Well everyone remembers quarterbacks like Gio Carmazzi being drafted before Tom Brady, but it doesn’t mean Mullens is Tom Brady either.
You're repeating exactly what I said just using reverse examples. I never said he was anything other than Nick Mullens, phrase anyway you want the point is nobody knows for sure.drummer said:
If you feed the trolls they will never go away. The ignore feature works great here, I can't recommend it enough.
Invoking Joe Montana with Mullens just comes out of left field after one game . Sure let it play out, but Montana is a HOF quarterback. Jeff GarcIa, maybe. But a HOF quarterback? That’s stretching it quite a bit.
The point was you never know, the point was the statement made about Montana not in anyway a comparison to Montana’s fabulous career. Don’t put words in my mouth Troll.
First off, I’m not trolling you. Second, any mention of Montana is putting Mullens in the company of Montana when you posted them in the same breath.
I never said he could be the next Montana Trolldrummer said:
Excuse me? If you put words in my mouth I’m gonna respond. Why did you choose to quote me? Did you read all the posts?
Youre not allowed to call someone a name here, even if you're addressing a someone thats posts nothing but hate to the thread and is one of the reasons these forums are going downhill (aka 3rd grade rules). You gotta add something football related or face the hammer. Like so:
It doesn't help when the thread OP - you - addresses others as trolls, tells others that they are trolls and to ignore them because you don't like what they say, and thus the name calling starts.
49er forums are pretty bad. Among the worst that I have seen. Seems that a fairly high percentage actually enjoy when something negative happens. Garoppolo tears his ACL and they rejoice because it is proof that he wasn’t worth the money they signed him for. Sad and pathetic but some people aren’t happy unless they’re unhappy
A lot of them are most likely millennials. It's not like they have a lot to be happy about during The York Era.
The pass that Kittle made a one hand grab - which was awesome BTW - Mullens had to jump to see over the line, and that pass you could had plucked out of the air had a Raider wanted to like, defend it. It was also a dangerous throw that Kittle made a great play on.
I agree 100% and actually posted earlier, much earlier in this thread for people to temper their excitement for him as more than one play was very lucky and used the Kittle play as an example. I apologize for the Troll remark but still not a fan of people putting words in my mouth when I was very clear he has a long way to go to be a viable NFL starter.
I apologize if it seemed like I put words in your mouth. I wasn’t trying to do that. I was just looking at it and tried to put it in context.Streetduck said:
I think he’s going to be a very good head coach. Came into a situation as a first time head coach with a bottom 5 roster. When he got good QB play last year with Garoppolo, they won. Expectations were high going into this year, but realistic fans knew they were screwed if Garoppolo got hurt. The rest of the roster just isn’t good enough yet to win with bad QB play.
I think Shanahan’s been great coaching a largely talentless roster. They have absolutely no business getting the offensive production they are getting out of these players. The problem is that I think he has de facto personnel power and he and Lynch haven’t been excelling there.
About what I expected, honestly. I like Pettis, but outside of Pettis/Kittle, would any of these receivers make another roster? Kittle's false start on the goal line was costly.Wingnut said:1st and goal inside the 2 and they couldn't punch it in against the lowly Bucs.
I left at the start of the 4th when the Bucs scored their final TD. Just a bush league performance today.
I assume you bought the tickets before the season started?Wingnut said:1st and goal inside the 2 and they couldn't punch it in against the lowly Bucs.
I left at the start of the 4th when the Bucs scored their final TD. Just a bush league performance today.
Yeah I bought the tickets in May when the group tickets went on sale. Great seats, 2nd level 20 yard line with access to the swanky air conditioned club area with tons of huge TVs, bars, food, etc...I'll be buying Tix in the same section next year when the Niners come back to Tampa.I assume you bought the tickets before the season started?
I couldn't even make it though the first half watching on TV. Breida and Kittle played well. Pettis got some separation, which was nice to see. If they don't start him the rest of the year to let him develop, it will be a surprise (a bad one).
Hate to see it happening, but getting the first overall pick is pivotal to their growth at this point. Assuming they don't F it up of course.
Would like to know for sure how the final decisions on draft picks is arrived at. How much say does Peters have? Because whatever they are doing is not working obviously. Lynch seems like a smart guy and I thought the hire was good at the time, figuring he would rely on guys like Peters to make personnel decisions while he grew into the GM position. I got concerned during the first draft after they made the great deal with the Bears to pick up the 2 3rds and the 4th rounder to move down a spot when they showed Lynch in the 49er war room right before the Bears pick and he said "it has to be Solly, right" (paraphrase)? Most fans knew Chicago didn't give up that much draft capital unless they were taking a QB. Lynch was enamored with Thomas and thought everyone else was too. Then in the 3rd round with Kamara falling into their lap, they had back to back picks and take Witherspoon and then trade the next pick to the Saints, who take Kamara. Everything I had read on Kamara said he was the perfect back for the Shanahan system. I was stunned they passed on him TWICE.
Part of the problem with free agency is the bay area itself. High cost of living and high state taxes means they have to pay more that other teams to draw players. Plus, as a place to visit, the bay area is cool, but personally, I wouldn't want to live there and it doesn't have the same appeal as Southern California for lifestyle. Fans complain that the 49ers overpay for free agents (and they do), but kind of have to. Giants have the same issue in baseball for a lot of the same reasons in addition to a big ballpark that hurts power stats. They built their championships teams through the draft and some good trades. Niners have to do the same thing. Can't count on adding impact free agents unless they overpay.
Im not buying the expensive angle. I get the taxes thing, but players dont have to live in the city they play in, theryre only there for the offseason program and then what, 10 games including preseason (and maybe another one or two in postseason if they're lucky). Lots of players live in different states than they play in. And with the crazy contracts players get these days, it's not like they can't buy a place until they move on to another team or retire, then sell it and probably even make money, especially how real estate in CA just keeps going up.
Have to disagree here.Wingnut said:
